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  • May 14, 2017 at 10:32 am in reply to: What does hope look like? #68804
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    nittany ram wrote:
    wv wrote:
    nittany ram wrote:

    Who do you think would win a fight between Jamie Lanister (before he lost his sword hand) and Aragorn? How about between The Mountain and Legolas? Arya and Samwise?

    I know the correct answers. I just wanna see if you know them.

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    Aragorn.
    Legolas.
    Arya.

    Now, what about Ginger vs Mary-Anne ?

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    You got 2 out of 3 correct. That’s a score of 66.7%.

    Unfortunately you needed a minimum score of 66.8% to pass the test.

    So you failed.

    Where you slipped up was when you marked Arya over Samwise.

    Arya, like the rest of the Game of Thrones cast, is a fictional character. She’s not real. Game of Thrones is a TV show.

    What, you think some wee actress is going to defeat a battle hardened Hobbit in a real fight?

    Get real.

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    I worry about Sansa, you know.

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    May 14, 2017 at 9:02 am in reply to: What does hope look like? #68799
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    nittany ram wrote:

    Who do you think would win a fight between Jamie Lanister (before he lost his sword hand) and Aragorn? How about between The Mountain and Legolas? Arya and Samwise?

    I know the correct answers. I just wanna see if you know them.

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    Aragorn.
    Legolas.
    Arya.

    Now, what about Ginger vs Mary-Anne ?

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    May 13, 2017 at 10:49 pm in reply to: Counterpunch on the Comey firing… #68793
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    waterfield wrote:

    That is precisely why progressive will never move forward. Most people see this language as elitism.

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    Progressives wont move forward because there are very few of us in this country.

    Democrats/liberals and rightwingers will move forward because they ‘are’ the system.

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    May 13, 2017 at 8:07 pm in reply to: What does hope look like? #68780
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    TSRF wrote:

    At some point, the Earth’s core will solidify. When that happens, the magnetic field will collapse. Charged particles from the sun will cleanse the surface of all multi-cellular organisms.
    That should give hope to the rest of the universe, unless, somehow, some way, we find a way to establish a foothold off of this planet. In that case, watch out universe!

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    Look, we are going to explore strange new worlds,
    and we are GOING to make the Universe GREAT AGAIN.

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    May 13, 2017 at 5:27 pm in reply to: Counterpunch on the Comey firing… #68772
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    Zooey wrote:

    There is no doubt in my mind that we would not have invaded Iraq under Gore, and that ISIS wouldn’t exist in its current state, if it existed at all. So without doubt, the election of Bush was catastrophic.

    Personally, I do not blame Nader. I blame Jeb Bush and Kathleen Harris, and Justices Scalia and O’Connor most heavily.

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    Oh heck yeah.
    Gore woulda been better.

    And most voters…
    um…voted for him.

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    May 13, 2017 at 4:12 pm in reply to: Counterpunch on the Comey firing… #68770
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    zn wrote:

    That’s a vote (ie. an informal poll vote in a discussion), not an announcement of indisputable dogma…

    ..Probably the better response would be, I vote differently on that issue, I don’t see it that way.

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    That was a good post.

    I agree with you. And BillyT.

    Oh, and i blame the system for all those millions
    of brains who voted against Nader.

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    May 13, 2017 at 4:06 pm in reply to: Counterpunch on the Comey firing… #68769
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    PA Ram wrote:

    This is not a “country first” nation. It is a “party first” nation….

    This is about a two royal classes protecting their own self interests. The peasants in the middle do not particularly matter.

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    The poignancy of the situation of course, is that the peasants themselves
    keep voting for one or the other, of the two ‘royal classes’.

    The peasants dont have to do that.

    Except they ‘do’ have to do that, cause their brains
    have been colonized by the two royal classes.

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    May 13, 2017 at 11:18 am in reply to: "internet freedom" #68750
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    May 13, 2017 at 8:02 am in reply to: McVay, Everett, LaFleur, Kupp, Johnson, Reynolds (5/12) … transcripts + vids #68741
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    Rams new OC on Goff:
    (On if there’s anything else that has surprised him while working with Goff)
    “I’ll be honest with you, I think he’s a little more accurate than I anticipated, so that got me excited. Obviously, he’s got a big arm. Until you work with a guy you don’t really know. Obviously, I studied him coming out in the draft and knew that he had some of the characteristics that you look for. He’s a natural thrower. He’s tough and he’s throwing the ball with, like I said before, surprisingly with really good accuracy.”
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    Nice to read that.

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    May 12, 2017 at 10:01 pm in reply to: Garden 2017 #68718
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    I see you have a Palantír.

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    May 12, 2017 at 7:02 pm in reply to: Lewis Black #68696
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    May 12, 2017 at 11:59 am in reply to: roster stuff (running thread) #68690
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    zn wrote:

    Toth, good tryout signing…see previous post.

    I found this out:

    …Toth, from Brebeuf Jesuit Preparatory in Indianapolis…

    That’s my alma mater.

    .

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    Jesuits? All i know about the Jesuits is what i learned on Shogun.

    I’m not sure we can trust a Jesuit. Black Ships and all.

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    May 11, 2017 at 10:09 pm in reply to: What does hope look like? #68670
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    nittany ram wrote:

    Even if mankind eliminated the emission of all greenhouse gasses today, there is enough C02 in the atmosphere to keep the average temperature of the earth rising for hundreds of years.

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    Ok, see, now THAT is cause for hope.

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    May 11, 2017 at 10:03 pm in reply to: 22,748 #68668
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    zn wrote:
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    But i still dont think that comes close to the present situation

    Remember, what I said is, this has been happening all along. I didn’t exclude the new technology magnifying it. I just mean to point out that the history on this was deep.

    It’s just that before, it was kings doing it.

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    Yes, and I’m saying that view doesnt work for ME. I dont think i can say “well history is just continuing along its path like a river”.

    To me, what we have now is something NEW. Qualitatively different. Sui Generis.

    The technology-of-capitalism has changed the game into something new. A mutation has emerged. Or somethin.

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    May 11, 2017 at 6:23 pm in reply to: What does hope look like? #68653
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    Well, none of those three seems likely to me. But
    you never claimed they were ‘likely.’ Just reasons to hope.

    Maybe Nittany and his sciency-buddies will save us with some nano-technology, or brain science breakthroughs.

    Its possible.

    Maybe after the cataclysm Dolphins will evolve.

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    May 11, 2017 at 6:16 pm in reply to: 22,748 #68651
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    zn wrote:
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    There’s never been a system that threatened the biosphere before.

    Yes there has been. That’s been the way all along. For example, in the 1500s, one year, and I forget which, ship builders in England could not find a single pine tree tall enough to be made into a shipmast. People had to switch to sea coal for their home fires. Where was all the wood going? Among other things, to the gunpowder industry. You know that rivers like the Rhine and Danube used to be famously clear? Now they’re famously muddy. That was because of deforestization, which itself was driven by the fact that while castles are made of stone they are also made of wood scaffolding. Deforestization led to more sediment runoff from the land, so the great rivers of europe all darkened.

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    Interesting. Didnt know that. But i still dont think that comes close to the present situation. The toxic-massive-corporate mix of pollutants and poisons and nuclear weapons and climate-change-agents….etc.

    So, we’ll have to agree to disagree on there being a historical precedence for this.

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    May 11, 2017 at 8:59 am in reply to: Comey fired #68632
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    zn wrote:

    Great post. And say what you feel. It comes across differently once you explain it. It’s where yer at.

    I have to tell you my attitude/beliefs though, and I am not upholding them as The Thing You Must Do.

    I don’t think you fight wars without hope. So I look for signs of hope. Even small ones. So yes the system is raising itself to new levels of evil, but, 10 years ago I would never have dreamed that Sanders would have gotten as many votes as he did. I lived my entire american adult life not even wishing for a genuinely popular progressive candidate because it would be like wishing for wings or a real functioning magic wand. I didn’t even regret there being no such animal, I just lived in a world where they didn’t exist…it would be like regretting the sky is blue (why can’t we have ORANGE skies dammit).

    So are we at the stage where things have finally collapsed, or are we on the cusp of a progressive backlash unlike anything we have known? Darkest before the dawn?

    But either way, whether or not you like my example, you can’t fight wars without hope.

    Gamling: “Too few have come. We cannot defeat the armies of Mordor.”
    Théoden: “No, we cannot….But we will meet them in battle nonetheless.”
    [The men nod in agreement.]

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    Well the ‘hope’ thing is a big, deep, complex subject.

    I dont run around throwing cold water on OTHER people’s hopes. I only do that here 🙂

    I dont do it elsewhere for the exact same reason i dont tell wv-mom that her fundamentalist-christian “jesus is coming” HOPES are all bullshit. I mean, why would i want to take her ‘hopes’ away from her. Her life is based on those ‘hopes’. Its built on those hopes. Wouldnt be a good thing to take those hopes away. Even though they are futile and ridiculous. I feel the same way about Dem-hopes and Rep-hopes. Mainstream-american hopes.

    So i walk around all day surrounded by humans who are all hopey-changy about Trump or Obama or Hillary…or Bernie. And i ‘get’ how important hope is, but the situation really looks beyond hope to ME. Thats my rational assessment based on the info i have (info about pollution, toxic sludge, fracking, nuclear weapons, bio weapons, chemical weapons, weapons industries, Corporate personhood, Gerrymandering, Neoliberalism, Psyops, Propaganda, NSA, CIA, FBI, human biology, climate change, ‘education,’ Corporate-media, voting-results, technology, etc etc)

    I mean even IF a Bernie were somehow to be elected, that Bernie would have to deal with a corporate-Senate, a corporate-House, a corporate-Court, a corporate-CIA….etc. The mega-corpse would just smear him, and wait him out.

    I could go on…but my point is….i forget. I think it was Hope is complex subject. I still have a flicker of hope. A flicker. But for the most part hope has left these lands. The personal individual question for me is how to live a good life without it. Or with only a flicker of it.

    I’m not about to run around telling ‘other’ hopeful people what to do or think.
    I’m HAPPY others still have hope. Good for them. …but this aint a star wars movie. And i find that most hopey-people dont know shit about the deep-state.

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    “It’s a bit embarrassing to have been concerned with the human
    problem all one’s life and find at the end that one has no more to offer by way of advice than‘try to be a little kinder.’ “ Aldous Huxley

    “The greatest mystery is not that we have been flung at random between this profusion of matter and the stars, but that within this prison we can draw from ourselves images powerful enough to deny our nothingness.” Les Noyers de l’Altenburg: Andre Malraux

    “We have not yet encountered any god who is as merciful as a man who flicks a beetle over on its feet.” ― Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek

    May 11, 2017 at 8:33 am in reply to: 22,748 #68631
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    zn wrote:

    Well the church and the lords with their castles and armies have total power and there’s no fighting that. Between them they dominate the world, and it will never change.

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    Yes, the olden systems were replaced — with a new modern system that is unlike anything humans have had before. There’s never been a system that threatened the biosphere before. And there’s never been a system like this before (psyops, mega-propaganda, think-tanks, nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, bio-weapons, CIA, NSA, satellites, FBI, media, etc).

    So looking to the past and thinking “well things have changed before” doesnt do it for me. This system is unique.

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    May 10, 2017 at 11:49 pm in reply to: Rams in transition years with a new coach, going back to 73 #68622
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    Interesting.

    Not sure any of those new-coaches relied on a raw air-raid-QB with
    only about 8 NFL starts.

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    May 10, 2017 at 11:30 pm in reply to: Comey fired #68619
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    zn wrote:
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    zn wrote:

    No evidence (at that point) of collusion.

    But collusion is not the only animal in this hunt.

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    Yes. And fwiw, I dont have any doubt the rooskies spent a ton of money
    helping Donald, as well as other candidates in other nations.

    And can almost guarantee that other powerful nations have taken notice and are working on their own versions of influencing modern elections. China, Israel, etc.

    And of course the USA is the king of influencing elections the world over. And thats putting it mildly.

    Meanwhile the mega-corpse just laugh at it all. Trump, Obama, Hillary, Russians, Chinese, it dont matter.

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    I dunno WV, sometimes you gotta turn from all global history for all time, and just look at x topic in its time and place.

    The issue is, were laws broken. Collusion aside, which is just one thing on a long list of things, did the Trump circle have contact with Russians officials and/or business people in ways that broke laws.

    If the answer is yes, I am not going to be talked out of interest in that specific topic because Everything is Wrong Everywhere.

    It’s like, I am the coach, and I go, do I punt here or go for it? And then think, what’s the point, human nature has not lessened its depravity since the dawn of time, and winning is a form of indefensible greed. That’s just out of proportion to the real issue.

    I don’t excuse this administration breaking the law and then covering it up because Everything Else Everywhere Is Bad.

    You fight wars a battle at a time.

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    Well as you’ve noticed, I have changed over the last year or so. And its reflected in my posting. I used to take each issue “and just look at x topic in its time and place.” That used to be exactly what i did. But it doesn’t work anymore (for me).

    That outlook (as opposed to actual ‘approach‘) only made sense to me when i thought the system could be reformed. I no longer think the system can be reformed, and i think the system under Clinton/Bush/Obama/Trump is now so hideous and growing so rapidly, that I see no hope in reforming it. I think its too late. For all the reasons I’ve yacked about for years.

    So now, i find myself reacting to every single outrage-of-the-week with the same basic post — “yes, yes, the Dem-Rep-Corporotacracy-Deep-State is killing the biosphere and the masses brains have been colonized so there will be no resistence. Have a nice day”

    Believe me, i ‘get’ how uninteresting and monotonous my posts are. They are monotonous to me, believe me. But then thats how i really see it. Its not just board-talk. I really think the system is beyond fixing now.

    Now what I’ve just talked about is my ‘outlook’. That doesnt change the fact i actually have to LIVE in this world and DO things and make decisions about what to do with my life, etc. So I’ll continue to fight the good fight as i see it, and ‘do my best’ and ‘do what i can’ — but I now look at like I’m giving the heimlich maneuver to someone on the Titanic.

    Oh, and I am going to try and discipline myself so that I dont reply to every outrage-of-the-week with “yes, yes, what do you expect from a Corporotacracy, we are all doomed”

    I’ll think it, but I wont post it.

    I am into hiking now, btw. I’m getting into better shape. I need some good hiking shoes.

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    May 10, 2017 at 11:14 pm in reply to: 22,748 #68615
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    zn wrote:

    See here’s yet another issue that matters, taken in its own terms.

    And yes the USA overthrew Mosedegh in Iran thereby destabilizing the region for years.

    Yet, even given that, and all the other horrors of poscolonial modernity and post-war awfulness, here’s a lesser injustice than those, that still needs to be fixed.

    That’s my theme du jour.

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    Well, yes, you still think the ship can be saved.
    I think thats good. Its a good way to live.

    And I’ll continue to think that your outlook is a good one,
    as I look at the iceburg and the gaping hole in the side of the ship.

    Gotta do ‘somethin’. Might as well try and do some good.

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    May 10, 2017 at 9:01 pm in reply to: Comey fired #68609
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    zn wrote:

    No evidence (at that point) of collusion.

    But collusion is not the only animal in this hunt.

    ..

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    Yes. And fwiw, I dont have any doubt the rooskies spent a ton of money
    helping Donald, as well as other candidates in other nations.

    And can almost guarantee that other powerful nations have taken notice and are working on their own versions of influencing modern elections. China, Israel, etc.

    And of course the USA is the king of influencing elections the world over. And thats putting it mildly.

    Meanwhile the mega-corpse just laugh at it all. Trump, Obama, Hillary, Russians, Chinese, it dont matter.

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    May 10, 2017 at 8:25 pm in reply to: Comey fired #68606
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    zn wrote:

    “I’m told that as soon as Rosenstein arrived, there was a request for additional resources for the investigation and that a few days afterwards, he was sacked,” said Mr. Durbin, a Democrat of Illinois. “I think the Comey operation was breathing down the neck of the Trump campaign and their operatives, and this was an effort to slow down the investigation…”

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    Maybe Comey was on to something, but not too long ago, Feinstein flat out said this:

    May 10, 2017 at 2:14 pm in reply to: Comey fired #68600
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    Zooey wrote:

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    I think the country has changed since Watergate. A lot. I think if Watergate happened today, the president would get away with it. I think the majority of people just see all of this as noise, and lump it all together without distinguishing the seriousness of the various scandals.

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    Well for some of us its hard to care about the ‘seriousness of the various scandals’ when the system itself is the single biggest scandal in human-history. I cant think of any other organization or entity that has threatened all life on the planet.

    Where are the ‘good guys’ in this Zooey?

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    May 10, 2017 at 1:58 pm in reply to: Orcas have a taste for shark livers #68599
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    May 10, 2017 at 1:51 pm in reply to: Orcas have a taste for shark livers #68598
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    Orca punter.

    May 10, 2017 at 8:16 am in reply to: Comey fired #68587
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    Trump tweet:

    Cryin’ Chuck Schumer stated recently, “I do not have confidence in him (James Comey) any longer.” Then acts so indignant. #draintheswamp
    3:42 am · 10 May 2017
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    btw, Comey is the former VP of Lockheed Martin. The department of defense’s largest contractor.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Comey
    Comey and his wife Patrice Failor are the parents of five children.[124] He is of Irish descent and was raised in a Roman Catholic household.[125][126] Comey subsequently joined the United Methodist Church, and has taught Sunday school in the past.[124]

    Although Comey was a registered Republican for most of his adult life, he disclosed during Congressional testimony on July 7, 2016, that he is no longer registered in any party.[1] Comey donated to U.S. Senator John McCain’s campaign in the 2008 presidential election and to Governor Mitt Romney’s campaign in the 2012 presidential election.[127]

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    May 10, 2017 at 6:57 am in reply to: Comey fired #68585
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    One political hack will now be replaced by a more obedient political hack.

    This system is beyond fixing.

    Just my opinion. I know, i know, I’m a ‘cynic’. Except I’m not.
    The system is…beyond…fixing. Trump will be replaced in time. And
    the system will go on as it was with Obama/Clinton. And the scientists will
    stop marching, and the Clintonistas and Reaganistas will go back
    to destroying the biosphere.

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    May 10, 2017 at 6:50 am in reply to: 26th greatest Canadian #68584
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    Read the essay “Wounds” at the bottom of that post.

    Its worth reading. I think it would be a good essay for a high school class to read, btw.

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    May 9, 2017 at 12:15 pm in reply to: What happened to the offense in 2016? #68529
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    joemad wrote:

    Bills, Lions, Giants, Panthers, Miami and SF were all winnable and close games…. I think better game day management from the coaching staff could’ve won those games… Let’s hope that McVay can provide that guidance to win those close games….

    They win those games, the Rams would’ve been 10-6.

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    Seemed like there were two seasons last year. The 3-1 start, followed by a 1-5 record were all part of the same pattern really. The Rams fought hard, played close games, but just didnt have enough pop on offense. The defense always wilted and wasn’t good enough to carry them far enough to win.

    And then in week 12 they started playing good offenses – Pats, Falcons, Saints — and the flawed-defense was just destroyed and the offense melted down.

    I am not sure what kind of team will show up in 2017. I just dont know what to expect. My last memories of the Rams are all those blow out losses and the pathetic loss to the pathetic 49ers. Surely they are not really that bad.

    1 September 12 at San Francisco 49ers L 0–28 …. 0–1
    2 September 18 Seattle Seahawks W 9–3 …. 1–1
    3 September 25 at Tampa Bay Buccaneers W 37–32 …. 2–1
    4 October 2 at Arizona Cardinals W 17–13…. 3–1
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    5 October 9 Buffalo Bills L 19–30 … 3–2
    6 October 16 at Detroit Lions L 28–31 … 3–3
    7 October 23 New York Giants L 10–17…. 3–4
    8 Bye
    9 November 6 Carolina Panthers L 10–13 ….3–5
    10 November 13 at New York Jets W 9–6 … 4–5
    11 November 20 Miami Dolphins L 10–14…. 4–6
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    12 November 27 at New Orleans Saints L 21–49…. 4–7
    13 December 4 at New England Patriots L 10–26…. 4–8
    14 December 11 Atlanta Falcons L 14–42…. 4–9
    15 December 15 at Seattle Seahawks L 3–24… 4–10
    16 December 24 San Francisco 49ers L 21–22… 4–11
    17 January 1 Arizona Cardinals L 6–44…. 4–12

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