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  • February 6, 2018 at 12:25 pm in reply to: "the memo" #80796
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    Billy_T wrote:

    I get confused a bit by some of the videos you post, cuz it seems like the people in them are saying it’s all on the Dems, and not the GOP at all. Like Trump and the GOP are the victims. I may be misreading them completely, but they seem reluctant to mention Republican complicity and responsibility..

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    Well as ive said before, i think there’s a Dem-MSM and Rep-MSM nowadays. I think both MSMs share some basic assumptions about American-Exceptionalism, but i think there are also some differences between Fox and MSNBC. Both Fox/talk-radio and MSNBC/NPR dum down the nation and preach American-exceptionalism. Both essentially paint a Norman Rockwell picture of the ‘system’.

    But then of course there are differences between Fox and NPR too. I dont think i need to point out those differences. They are talking to different audiences.
    But they both fulfill their propaganda and gate-keeper functions.
    They keep the discussion in the approved-spectrum of thot, as Noam has talked about endlessly…etc and so forth.

    Separate subject — are the Reps worse than the Dems? Yes. And the gap seems to widening a bit with insane-ass-clown as Prez.

    Do a lot of the vids i post pick on the dems more than the reps? Yes. I gravitate toward those because the Dems annoy me more. They always have. Its just a personal thing. I know the Reps are worse. But the Dems annoy me more. 🙂

    For me its just a GIVEN that today’s Reps and Trump are the most hideous force in America. What Chomsky said. Ya know.

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    February 6, 2018 at 12:11 pm in reply to: "the memo" #80795
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    nittany ram wrote:

    For me the priority is removing Trump/Pence from office. So while I agree that it’s important for Americans to be aware of our own interference in elections in other countries, the focus should be on Trump’s collusion with Russia and anything else that makes his removal possible. All other considerations are secondary to that.

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    Ok, cool, but i couldnt disagree more 🙂

    Trump is driving the biosphere off the cliff at 90 mph.
    The Dems would drive the biosphere off the cliff at 75 mph.

    I just dont see replacing trump with a dem as a priority.

    When we are this-totally-fucked….i dunno what the priority is anymore.

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    February 6, 2018 at 9:23 am in reply to: "the memo" #80786
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    Billy_T wrote:

    That said, how often should our media bring that up? Should they preface every discussion regarding Russia bots, facebook, google and twitter hacks, DNC hacks, Trump campaign collusion . . . with the fact that our two empires have been going at it for what seems like forever? Should every discussion be prefaced with the fact that this is not the good guys against the bad guys, but something far, far more complex? .

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    Yes. Imho, the media should put the story in context every single time they talk about it 🙂

    As it is now, the MSM NEVER ‘prefaces’ the story with any context. Never.
    And thus the story simply ends up being propaganda. Its not like a Warner / Bulger story where you can tell one story without the other. In this case, any story that ignores context (how much did the CIA ‘collude’ in the choice of Yeltsin?) simply dums down the American public and manufactures consent about American exceptionalism which then makes it easier for american-oligarchs to bring neoliberalism and bombs to the rest of the world.

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    February 6, 2018 at 8:29 am in reply to: "the memo" #80782
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    Ok, how about the ‘context’ and the ‘big picture’. Which is a separate-but-inseparable aspect of this to me. 🙂

    Assume for the sake of argument that Trump had connections and deals with Russians that amount to “collusion” or whatever terms you wanna use. OK, assume the worst and assume its all true and even more is true that we dont even know about.

    Put it in context.

    How does it fit with all the ‘collusion’ America/CIA/NSA/Pentagon/Executive-Branch has done all over the world since, say, the end of World War II ?
    Do you see any problem with the MSM discussing Russia-gate without putting it in historical context? IE, telling a story of russia being the bad guys and america being the shining city on the hill?

    Second question — Again, assume all the russia-gate stuff is true, for the sake of argument — How is the system USING this issue? In what ways, if any, are the MSM/Dems using this issue?

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    February 6, 2018 at 8:18 am in reply to: Cornel West on Obama #80781
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    Well if every modern US President is a War-Criminal, and most Senators and House members are war criminals…….what big questions does that raise about America, Americans, and Life on Earth ?

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    February 5, 2018 at 1:02 pm in reply to: Eagles win…reactions? #80759
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    I wonder if losing wentz ended up helping the Eagles. I mean…who knows.

    Strange year.

    I wonder if this will affect Wentz and the eagles locker-room in any way next year.

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    February 5, 2018 at 12:56 pm in reply to: The Feb. 2018 Rams draft thread #80758
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    JackPMiller wrote:

    Cut
    Robert Quinn – $11.4 million
    Mark Barron – $7 million
    Roger Saffold – $6.5 million
    Tavon Austin – $3 million

    Resign
    Lamarcus Joyner
    Sammy Watkins
    Derrick Carrier
    Dominique Easley
    Jake McQuaide
    Tyrunn Walker
    Matt Longacre
    Malcolm Brown
    Troy Hill
    Cody Davis

    Extend
    Aaron Donald – Hopefully works for both parties

    Players to sign
    Kyle Fuller CB Chicago Bears
    Jelani Jenkins LB Houston Texans
    Mason Foster LB Washington Redskins
    Shamarko Thomas S Buffalo Bills

    *Draft
    1. Martinas Rankin OT Mississippi State
    3. Kendrick Norton NT Miami(Fla)
    4. Kevin Toliver CB LSU
    5. Darius Jackson 3/4 OLB Jacksonville State
    6a. Mason Cole C Michigan
    b. Brendan Mahon G Penn State
    c. Brandon Fracyson CB Virginia Tech
    7a. Kellen Soulek DT/DE South Dakota State
    b. Jeremiah Briscoe QB Sam Houston State

    * -only did a temporary Rams drafting. I will have a full NFL draft when at the end of April. Days of the draft.

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    That draft looks sensible to me, but I wouldnt cut Saffold. Why cut a great guard (who can swing to tackle) who knows the system?

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    February 5, 2018 at 10:59 am in reply to: The Feb. 2018 Rams draft thread #80754
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    What happened to their 2nd round pick? Are they still dealing with the Goff trade-up? Or was that the Watkins trade?

    I dont like that mock at all. No LT? Really? Aint gonna happen that way.

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    February 5, 2018 at 10:35 am in reply to: peter king on super bowl #80752
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    Benoit:https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/02/05/malcolm-butler-benching-eagles-passing-scheme-super-bowl-52

    “…the Patriots gave up the fewest points in the NFL after Week 5, but as it turns out, the flush was indeed initiated in that Week 4 debacle. It just took until Super Bowl 52 for the water to disappear.

    “We knew they had problems when you force them to defend stacks and bunches,” said one Eagles offensive assistant after the game. “You look at early in the year, against those stacks, they were losing guys.”

    What the Eagles saw, particularly in that Carolina game, was that the Patriots couldn’t figure out how to defend receivers who released together on intersected routes, especially when pre-snap motion was involved. New England righted things in Week 5 (and moving forward) by simplifying into more basic man-to-man principles—and that simplification is what Philadelphia exploited Sunday night…
    …
    …The Eagles consistently created favorable angles and leverage for their receivers, and at times they even dictated favorable matchups. They got some significant help here from the Patriots, who shockingly benched starting corner Malcolm Butler. Asked when they realized Butler would not be playing, the Eagles assistant said, “After the first series or two. We were like, ‘This guy’s not in the game! They have 23 [Patrick Chung] in there. That’s crazy!’””

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    February 5, 2018 at 10:03 am in reply to: peter king on super bowl #80751
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    “…Inside the Eagles’ locker room, I got Pederson alone and asked where this football ethos came from.

    “Playing quarterback, watching a lot of teams, a lot of football,” he said. “You learn if you play passive, if you play conservative, if you call plays conservatively, you are going to be 8-8, 9-7 every year. Every year. Frank and I just having that collaborative spirit to talk about things and talk with our quarterbacks and just come up with ways of keeping this game fresh and fun and exciting for our players. And that’s really where it all stems from.”

    February 5, 2018 at 12:24 am in reply to: Eagles win…reactions? #80744
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    If the Atlanta Falcons Coach hadnt totally screwed up the fourth quarter last year, Pats Fans all over New England would be hitting themselves with snow shovels even harder, right now.

    I guess the Eagles are pretty good. I guess.

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    February 4, 2018 at 4:47 pm in reply to: What Are You Eating Today? #80728
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    PA Ram wrote:

    For us, it’s cheesesteaks and tastykake cupcakes. Those are both Philly things.

    I must confess that I’m not a huge cheesesteak fan–at least the way they make them in Philly which involves minute steaks and a cheese whiz option.

    I live in a Philly suburb and here in the magical land of Berks County we eat are steak sandwiches with a tomato sauce on top. Delicious. But today–my wife insists we go traditional.

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    Im eating cheesecake.

    …I ate here a couple times last year. Had the best doughnut I’ve ever eaten. Ever go there?

    February 4, 2018 at 4:39 pm in reply to: first they came for the ghost cats #80727
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    nittany ram wrote:

    When I lived in PA there were occasional sightings by people I would consider credible and the same is true here in Vermont.

    But the lack of physical evidence is telling.

    I would like to see mountain lions reintroduced here in the east. Wolves too.

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    I would like to see Black Rhinos introduced here in WV.

    Black Rhinos matter.

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    February 4, 2018 at 4:35 pm in reply to: "Martin died of a broken heart" #80726
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    So i was talking to Republican-Fox-Watching-Evangelical-wv-mom, and i mentioned Martin Luther King, and she sneared at the notion he was a Christian. She noted
    he cheated on his wife, etc.

    So then i said, “but wv-mom you Luuuuv Mr Trump, and he’s a total Weasel.

    And she said, “He may have done some things in the past but he’s God’s instrument now. He’s a good christian man, now.”

    She also said she was rooting for “Tom Brady because he’s “not ashamed touphold Christian family values.”

    So there you have it. This is one of the many reasons the biosphere is fucked.

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    February 4, 2018 at 8:44 am in reply to: has anyone done all 3 before? #80707
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    I feel blessed.

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    February 3, 2018 at 12:38 pm in reply to: The superbowl: will you watch? Predictions? What do you hope/expect will happen? #80681
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    nittany ram wrote:

    Yes, I’ll watch it. I haven’t missed one as long as I can remember. I’m going to a party. The guy who’s throwing it is a friend of mine and a Pats fan, so in deference to our friendship I’ll be silently rooting for the Eagles.

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    What if Foles outduels Brady.

    What then?

    What would it mean?

    End times?

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    February 3, 2018 at 12:34 pm in reply to: russia-gate and the memo #80680
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    …im also skimming “Fug You,” a kindof gonzo memoir from Ed Sanders, a 60s activist.
    Just cuz i Found it at a yard sale.

    “…When you read about Mr. Sanders’s journey through the demonstrations at the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago — which led to the arrest and trial of the Chicago Seven — you might marvel at a passage in which he eats some powerful hash-oiled honey. “I looked up through the tear-gas sonata of Lincoln Park,” he writes, “and the Universe from the edge of the Lake up across the wide Midwest sky was made up of pulsing, writhing mountains and vistas of spinach.” These same words, and many others in the same chapter, were arranged almost exactly as poetry in his book “1968: A History in Verse,” published in 1997.

    But that’s all right. Mr. Sanders is a creative collector and recycler. Elsewhere in this book he describes a moment of penury in 1964 when he assembled a catalog of literary ephemera, including two packets of the pubic hair from famous poets — O’Hara, LeRoi Jones, Edwin Denby, Ted Berrigan and others — harvested by Ginsberg and donated to Mr. Sanders as a favor. The items “sold briskly,” he notes.

    In February 1967 Mr. Sanders appeared on the cover of Life magazine as a leader of “the Other Culture,” but he was perhaps both a little too scholarly and a little too normal to become a true sixties martyr-symbol….”
    Review:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/12/books/fug-you-by-ed-sanders-review.html

    February 3, 2018 at 8:19 am in reply to: russia-gate and the memo #80669
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    Well we disagree on most of this russia-gate thing, as you know, BT, but I’m pulling for you in your cancer-battle.

    PS — i am reading the China Mieville book “October”.

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    “The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths. These persons have an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them with compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern. Beautiful people do not just happen.” ― Elisabeth Kübler-Ross

    February 3, 2018 at 8:12 am in reply to: The superbowl: will you watch? Predictions? What do you hope/expect will happen? #80668
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    Nah, i wont watch it. But i havent watched one in a long time.

    I seem to be a Ram fan, as opposed to a football fan these days.

    Wouldnt surprise me if the Eagles won, btw.

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    February 2, 2018 at 7:44 am in reply to: should the Rams sign Watkins or move on? #80642
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    Quinn will be an interesting decision too. Or is he already signed for next year?

    Seems like there’s a lot of disagreement over the value of:
    Barron, Quinn, Tru, and Watkins.

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    February 1, 2018 at 11:06 pm in reply to: should the Rams sign Watkins or move on? #80638
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    I dunno. But i trust Mc-Snead to know what he’s worth and act accordingly.

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    February 1, 2018 at 11:38 am in reply to: counterpunch on Bernie #80625
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    Zooey wrote:

    Yeah. Well. Coupla things. First, I don’t think it is true to say that Bernie is out to save the “Euro-American” middle class, so much as it is accurate to say that much of his base is “Euro-American” middle class. Bernie DOES talk about the poor, so I don’t know what that guy is listening to. I think it’s fair to say that Bernie doesn’t emphasize the poor, but they do get a fair amount of attention. And the $15/hour, universal health, free college policies would help the poor considerably.

    Do we need more than that? Sure. But Bernie is a realistic option, the most left option there is. Political shifts take time, unless….

    I keep reading references to Late Stage Capitalism…and they may be right. One way or another, our system has to go. I do not think it’s a given that whatever supersedes it will be better. In all likelihood, seems to me, we are more likely to return to some sort of feudal system. In America, a systemic collapse will be terrifying. We are not one of the countries on this planet with a strong sense of community. We are divided – a lot – by a lot of things: politics, race, religion. And we are heavily armed with a long love affair with violent solutions. If we aren’t going to move gradually to the left – take what we can get – the alternative is ugly.

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    I tend to agree with all that.

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    January 31, 2018 at 9:15 am in reply to: Spags on Patz cheating in Phil/NE superbowl…expanded: Martz on did Patz cheat #80606
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    zn wrote:
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    Obviously video taping another team’s practices is a no-no because the Pats were punished for that but is stealing signals really cheating?

    Yes it;s cheating.

    Though it;s not against league rules.

    Why not? It’s unenforceable. So the league says, each team is on its own to provide security,

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    I didnt know that. I thought stealing them was fair-game, but videotaping them in order to steal them was a violation.

    The Carl Sweetan scandal is still the only one i know where someone tried to sell stuff to another team.

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    January 31, 2018 at 9:12 am in reply to: Chiefs trade Alex Smith to Washington #80605
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    Well who is gonna be the QB for the Chiefs?

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    January 30, 2018 at 8:58 pm in reply to: LaFleur takes OC job with Titans #80582
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    Should we be concerned that Olsen and La-floor are gone?

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    January 30, 2018 at 9:04 am in reply to: Spags on Patz cheating in Phil/NE superbowl…expanded: Martz on did Patz cheat #80575
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    It would be nice to know ‘how much’ they cheated, and whether or ‘how much’ it affected actual outcomes of meaningful games.

    It would also be nice to know how much ‘other’ teams have cheated in the NFL over the years. It would put things in context.

    Like, ya know, maybe the Cleveland Browns have been cheating for the last decade. Ya know.

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    January 28, 2018 at 1:17 pm in reply to: Offensive Tackles in the 2018 draft #80543
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    zn wrote:
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    Well, i like the fact that he might be able to play every single position on the OLine. Think of how valuable a guy like that might be when the injuries start coming.

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    from a senior bowl report:

    Isaiah Wynn showed why Daniel Jeremiah had him in round 1. I haven’t seen an OG win that overwhelmingly and consistently in as long as I can remember watching these practices … he may go 2nd for interior guys …

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    Remember when a lot of folks thought Aaron Donald was too short.

    Wynn feels like an A.Donald to me. Just a hunch.

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    January 27, 2018 at 10:38 pm in reply to: Offensive Tackles in the 2018 draft #80526
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    One of these guys is gonna be a Ram:https://www.drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Draft-Prospect-Rankings/Top-College-Offensive-Tackles-2018-Draft.asp

    January 27, 2018 at 10:36 pm in reply to: Offensive Tackles in the 2018 draft #80524
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    zn wrote:

    Well that wasn’t that much shorter I guess…

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    Well, i like the fact that he might be able to play every single position on the OLine. Think of how valuable a guy like that might be when the injuries start coming.

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    January 27, 2018 at 4:49 pm in reply to: Cannibalism and human evolution #80517
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