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wvParticipantSaints fans beside themselves:https://saintsreport.com/threads/giving-up-on-the-nfl-change-my-mind.403065/
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Bleu Raeder
“Well, this is certainly a first – for me to post two new threads in the SSF in the same day (or month, or year) but this whole thing has me doubting what I have believed for over 50 years.I love our team, the guys, what they do for the community. I love what they appear to stand for. I love my fellow fans.
But is it all in vain? Is the stress and strain of unrequited outrage really a good thing? Is the product just that, a product subject to the whims of the stockholders and leadership? A sham designed to print money but whose recent faux pass’ have shead light on the people behind the curtain having an interest in only one thing?
Lord knows it would be hard but I am ready to throw in the towel on the NFL. Is that wrong?”
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ArchiesGhost
“Today my question is the same.
How long has all this been influenced by the front office directly?
My gut says 2009 is a sham, everything in the Goodell era is a sham or at least attempted influence that occasionally failed to achieve the desired result.Clinging to the last tendrils of faint hope that an acceptable resolution will occur but i know in my heart that will never happen and I must reconcile myself to life without the Saints.”
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dapper dan
“I love the saints more than anything. I have probably spent half a million dollars over the last 30 years on traveling to games. I used to say I had no regrets. Now I do because the nfl will never give us a fair shake.I already lost a good female friend this weekend because she told me to calm down because it was just a game. Any idiot that says that doesn’t realize what being a saints fan is all about. I am proud to be a saints fan since it is about family, integrity, loyalty, perseverance, and flat out passion.
I simply can’t support the nfl any longer. The maggot screwed us in bountygate and ever since. Cam Jordan was right. We’re used to getting bad officiating but this was a whole new level. I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THIS GAME WAS RIGGED from the get go to get an LA team in the SB.”
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outlaw saint
“I might have to take a step back and watch Saints games the way I watch two other teams play each other. Just sit back and hope for some good football and a good close game (entertainment). I just don’t know if I can get as into it anymore. Probably once July comes around. I need a break.”
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saintster
Exactly I will never quit following the Saints fan and following them as always. It would be cheating myself and throwing all of the joy and heartache away for nothing . The NFL as a whole won’t win in that way with me personally.What does change is the fact that I will no longer spend money on NFL products. I will tell my family not to buy me any gift that helps them I have tons of Saints stuff it’s a tradition to get something every year. I am dropping the Sunday ticket I live on a super fixed income from SSDI and 300.00 is a huge chunk. There are streaming options anyways(should have done that awhile ago). I think we will get enough primetime games also.
I have stopped watching pre game shows years ago and I don’t watch football from morning till night on Sunday’s. I will balance my time which is becoming more valuable as time goes on Sunday’s. Lastly bring my stress level down it’s not worth it anymore. Overall the game isn’t as fun as it once was the evolution is not one of forwardness it’s gone just the opposite way.”
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Kris
“I’m done with NFL football. I was almost there before the start of this season for exactly the reason we are all so disgusted now. I couldn’t stay away from my Saints once the season started. I have been a continuous Saints fan since the early 80’s. I really hope I can hold onto that conviction because it IS RIGGED. The flip side is it’s so much fun to be a part of. I hate Goodell and what he has done to the NFL.
Hmmm, Goodell fired and rules changes to allow PI to be reviewed would probably restore some of my faith especially if the games are not “officiated” to be determined in last 4 minutes.”——
chopper man
“I got nothin.”
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wvParticipantI forget how to link twitters, but Saints fans are now fighting with Buffalo Wild Wings…
BWW:https://twitter.com/BWWings/status/1173350604082688001September 16, 2019 at 6:06 pm in reply to: highlights Saints game … + play break downs (Waldman, etc) #105166
wvParticipantYeah, Waldman is always good. He’s analytical but he also just enjoys the layers of the game.
The bomb to Cooks is, as everyone has noted, about as beautiful as the long bomb gets. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a WR tracking with his head/neck back that far, for that long. And the fingertip catch. And the length of the throw. And the high arc. Are you kidding me.
Course they screwed up in the redzone, naturally 🙂
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wvParticipantWould not surprise me if the season had a lot of games like this one. Sputtering offense, but defense keeps them in the game
I assume (maybe wrongly) you think that because of the young OL?
I actually think Goff is prepared to return to his “regular 100 qb ratings” days from before the bye last year. I just think they had a game and a half of rust and are now hitting stride.
What do others think? What’s the “informal poll” on that?
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Oline mainly, plus less Gurley. Plus better competition in the Division, looks like.
Saffold was a big loss. Whitworth will wear down.
But who knows.
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wvParticipantImpressive play by Cooks on the short TD catch. He made a tough contested catch. Not his forte last year.
To state the obvious, I thought the first half offense was A-biz-mal. Abysmal.
Would not surprise me if the season had a lot of games like this one. Sputtering offense, but defense keeps them in the game, and they pull it out with smart, tough, gritty play in the end. But there will also be times the offense blows it early, I would think. Seemed to me a couple of those early Goff throws could have easily been INTs.
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wvParticipant…so I’m watchin the game on replay, and WTF was McVay or Goff thinking on that call on third and goal early in the first quarter. The pass to Everett that had no chance of going anywhere. Even Aikman was startled by it.
Worst call of the year, so far.
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wvParticipantRichard Powers Q-and-A, on whether he’s hopeful about humanity (started it at the 55 min mark):
wvParticipantThe Lions game was a real struggle too, but they didnt mention that.
Generally speakin, it kinda seemed to me, the Rams offense peaked during the Chiefs game.
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wvParticipantHe’s the best shot we have.
We don’t know if he will get us anywhere.
But we know for sure none of the other candidates will.
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Well, i keep thinkin either bernie or warren will have to drop out, and maybe they join forces and will be on the same ticket. I would think that would be about as good as the duplicats can get.
Biden is just such an embarrassment in so many ways. And the DNC’s great hope Kamala, was a disaster.
Trump is by far the most…’interesting’ politician I can think of.
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wvParticipantGood stuff. Quotes are good.
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“The confusion is not my invention. We cannot listen to a conversation for five minutes without being aware of the confusion. It is all around us and our only chance now is to let it in. The only chance of renovation is to open our eyes and see the mess. It is not a mess you can make sense of.”
― Samuel BeckettSeptember 13, 2019 at 7:24 pm in reply to: Trump opens arctic national wildlife refuge to oil drillers… #105013
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wvParticipantso how did Jimmy Dore become a radical-leftist? He read Thomas Frank, who Jimmy notes is not a radical…
September 12, 2019 at 2:01 pm in reply to: do the poor Saints stand even the remotest chance against the Rams? #104976
wvParticipantI just think its a great great match-up. Great coaches, great rivalry.
The saints have a bit more motivation probly, but its in LA. The Saints have Breeze, but the Rams have Donald.
Could go either way, but I’m gonna go with Weddle. I think maybe his football-IQ will make a tiny difference and the Rams eke out a win. I think Weddle is McVay’s answer to…somethin. Some perceived problem they had last year.
Whoever wins it, itz a BIG win, even though its early. It would be nice to never ever have to go to New Orleans again, in the playoffs. Ya know. Dont wanna see ‘that’ place again.
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wvParticipantEvan Silva@evansilva
Cosell drills home the evidence-proven fact that run-game effectiveness has no impact on how linebackers react. “They do what they’re taught.” And that’s playing the run when they see a handoff or when the OL technique shows run.—————
OK, but that goes against every announcers cliches going back forty years.
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wvParticipantThis is the political climate we live in. A country where one-third of the population gets spoonfed absolute nonsense.
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Yeah, though i dont know that I’d use the word ‘climate,’ since to me it suggests a possibility of change.
I think once a corporotacracy dums-down its democratz and republithugz, its ‘climate’ is only going to get worse till the collapse.
Once a critical-mass-stage of dum-ness has been reached, I think a corporotacracy can only go in one direction. Coz there aint enuff non-dum-citizens to turn it around anymore.
Bolton is a leftist. In this climate maybe he is. 🙂
Damn rightwing-leftists.
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wvParticipantVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
There was a noticeable drop in the #Rams usage of 11 Personnel on Sunday, and while it was tough sledding operating out of other groupings it’s imperative the Rams continue to diversify.====================
What does that mean in dummed-down-english? Who will be on the field more and who will be on the field less, etc.
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wvParticipantWolff’s larger point about how the left just cant get along with itself made me smile. I’ve been wondering about that for a decade. Why cant leftists organize more effectively? Put ten of em in a room and they start tearing each other apart. I dunno. Anyway, thats how it seems to me.
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vSeptember 9, 2019 at 12:01 am in reply to: Highlights, Carolina game + Waldman & Baldinger play breakdowns (!) #104858
wvParticipantThat last play is the one that made me raise my eyebrow a bit. I dunno about Gurley.
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wvParticipantThere were parts of that second article that made me roll my eyes. Some of the players are makin it out like the Media shouldnt have had the audacity to question whether Gurley would ever be the same. Really?
The guy has a degenerative knee problem. He barely touched the ball in the two biggest games of the year last year. Why shouldn’t the corporate-media have a ton of questions?
There i go again, defending the corporate-media.
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wvParticipant…this reviewer like the smaug scene:
wvParticipantWell, Cumberbatch is very talented, to state the obvious, and he did a great job with the dragon-audio, but I thought the dragon-scenes ultimately failed because of the plot-visuals. The scenes reminded me of the kind of bad-movie scenes where the bad guys shoot a gazillion bullets that always miss the target, etc. I mean, i half expected the dragon to slip on a banana peel at some point.
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wvParticipantI just watched the Mccaffrey TD run. Maybe the best play of the game. Such a tough runner. Old School football. I really enjoyed watching that play. ….wait a second.
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wvParticipantI’ve watched it on replay up to the blocked punt.
My first impression is that McVay outcoached Rivera, just a bit. McVay’s team just looked like it had a better overall plan. The quick counts, the rhythms, the flow. Just looked like McVay had a better plan.
My second thot iz — I never complain after a road win. Against any team.
My third thot is, I thot the OLine played purty well, considering the Panthers Dline is purty good. I’ve seen a lot worse performances against that D. But part of that is McVay. He called a LOT of quick short passes, and some quick screens, and outside runs, etc. McVay made it a point to make it easy on the OLine. Good coaching.
My forth thot is, what did the Panthers do to nullify Aaron Donald? Just curious.
Maybe they just have a good interior Oline? Is Donald hurt?My fifth thot is, the Rams offense looks different this year. More Kupp, Less Gurley. I dunno. It worked today, but I dunno. With Gurley not being Gurley anymore, and Kupp getting hit hard a lot, I dunno if this formula will be effective down the stretch.
My sixth thot is, I really really cant stand, Jon Gruden, Antonio Brown, or the Patriots.
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wvParticipantI cant stand, Gruden.
I cant stand Antonio Brown.
I cant stand the Raiders.
And, I cant stand the Patriots.So, i cant find anything to care about here.
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wvParticipantWhoopi to Sanders: “Would you force corporations to pay taxes?”
Other questions asked by Whoopi…
Whoopi to a bear: “Do you shit in the woods?”
Whoopi to the Pope: “Do you where a funny hat?”
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Yeah, thats why i posted it. Whoopi’s ignorance about Bernie was appalling. She was a hillary-lover last time around. Still, you’d think she’d at least know ‘somethin’ about what Bernie is about. Gawd.
He’s only been preaching about this stuff for, what, thirty years?w
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wvParticipantJared Goff is very very overrated by national media
don’t you folks find this statement to be quite opposite?…. Goff is not a media darling
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Why in the world would anyone pay attention to what “the national media” say about…anything.
At any rate, concerning Goff, what I saw was that the “national media” loved him after the Chief game and hated him after the Patriot game. That is how they roll.
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wvParticipantI have watched football since 1968, and apart from that incredible accumulation of talent in the early 70s, Snead has a better track record than anybody else.
So…welcome to the Rams, Tyler.
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As i recall you once posted a photo of, either you, or your brother, in a blue and white rams helmet.
Anyone who once had a blue and white rams helmet gets to think any damn thing they want. So, either you,
or your brother, gets to have blind faith in Snead or Fisher or Taje Allen or John St.Clair or anyone you want. Its in the message board Terms of Use. Its called the 1968-Rulew
vSeptember 6, 2019 at 4:22 pm in reply to: will the Rams beat the Panthers in Carolina on Sept. 8 #104733
wvParticipantthe last time that the Rams played in Carolina… Bradford tore his ACL to begin the Kellen Clemmens era…….
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I wonder how Bradford would have done under McVay. I bet his ACL would have played better.
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wvParticipantVincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
“It’s trusting the process. But it’s also the way we practice. It’s the way we’ve meshed. It’s the way we’ve lifted and the way we’ve pushed each other.” #Rams OT Rob Havenstein on his confidence in a revamped O-line
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One advantage of having Aaron Donald, is the new OLinemen get to practice against the best.
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