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wvParticipant“…This backlash gives the impression that there’s a surging tide of white racism in America.
But just as slavery was not new during the pre-Civil War period, there’s absolutely nothing new about white racism as a force in American politics. Jenée Desmond-Harris wrote in 2016 that Trump was “refreshing” not just “to people who share his views” but “to people who have always known that views like this exist.”
Trump has made white racial resentment more visible than it was before, but at the same time, white liberals have become much more attuned to racism…”
===============I was just thinking about how refreshing Trump is in many ways. Take the money-thing. A weasely-liar like Hillary, who is a multi-multi-multi-millionaire (She and Bill both totally-cashed-in on Politix)always tried to downplay her 1 percenter status. She tried to be all folksy and play that “I’m just one of the people” shit, everywhere she went. And it was a lie. And people knew it was a lie.
How did Trump handle the same issue? He bragged about his money. He didnt downplay it, he said “I’m the biggest, best, Billionaire of all time!” And people thought it was refreshing, and honest. And they figured he must be honest about other things too. Whereas Hillary just sounded like the liar that she was.
Now i know Trump lied about a gazillion things, etc etc. But the man came across as ‘refrehing’ in a lot of ways to a lot of people. I picked up on it, myself, and also thought some of it was ‘refreshing’ in a surreal stuck-in-a-corporotacracy way.
Sometimes people respond to ‘blunt gawd-awfulness’ better than ‘careful weasely tip-toeing’ (see Joe Biden)
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vwvParticipantWV “hey dont CARE about winning the progressive way. They’d rather lose, i suspect than win ‘that’ way. Ask Waterfield ”
Your kidding of course! I’ve written before that at this point I don’t care who the Dems nominate as long as he or she beats Trump. And I want the one with the best odds of doing that.
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Yeah, thats true. I got carried away 🙂
You think a centrist like Biden/clinton/obama/gore/Kerry has the best chance.
I wonder which matters more — the Dems winning the Presidency, or what happens in the Senate. What are the chances the Reps lose enuff senate seats to make a difference?
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WV, I’m saying it’s actually quite liberating . . . Reality is. All too many Dems say they can’t run “to the left” because Americans hate those policies. My point is, Americans don’t care about policies. Or, the steak. They care about the sizzle…”==================
Well (and you already know what I’m gonna say), ‘americans’ may not care about ‘policies’ but the democrat-politicians do. They care because their owners care (the one percent). And so the politicians have no desire to win elections by using a great PR campaign that ‘sizzles’ with leftist ideas, when they can still win the elections by using corporate-friendly-stories that please their masters.
I am simply saying, Yes, the Dems could win with a sizzling progressive story. But thats not who they are so they will always try and win with a corporate-friendly-story. Always. I mean, just look at who they nominate year after year after year after year….Kerry, Clintons, Gore, Humphrey, etc etc. You have to go back to the 40s to find a progressive. FDR.
They dont CARE about winning the progressive way. They’d rather lose, i suspect than win ‘that’ way. Ask Waterfield 🙂
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vAugust 28, 2019 at 6:27 pm in reply to: Gluten does not induce gastrointestinal symptoms in healthy people #104412wvParticipantWell, my own view is:
1) We need more legit-studies, and
2) Peepulz need to fine tune their own diets, and experiment on themselves, and over a course of years/decades slowly figure out what works for them. It might be Paleo, it might be Vegan, it might be cannibalism, whatever. Lots of healthy humans eat all kinds of different diets, it would seem.I stopped my vegetarianism project a while back, btw, fwiw. I do a relatively-low-carb, low-sugar thing now.
I feel/am stronger than when i was on a plant-diet, but i do feel bad about eating animals. I dont think i will ever quite come to terms with eating animals. I just dont really know how to justify it. Ah well.w
vwvParticipantMichael Silver@MikeSilver
Belichick, on Germany’s World War 2 surrender: ‘Tough war. I didn’t really follow it, but lots of dead people. We all have to make our decisions. We’re on to Cincinnati.’
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I didnt really follow it either. But i suspect if Hitler had just bought Greenland instead of invading Russia…
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vwvParticipant…the nick saban thing…
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Well yes, and no, and maybe, and its complicated. Part of what saban is saying is just self-serving. A coach benefits from the ‘second, third, fourth chance’ approach. So is saban thinking of the player or society…or his own won-lost record? Hard to say.
It all depends on the incident/crime and the context. Is it a Lawrence Philips incident? Was a woman dragged down the stairs by her hair? Is there a history of violence? Etc and so forth.
It is indeed a very good question to ask though: “where do you want them to be?”
A lot of times, what that question reveals (in my world) is that there arent enough options in this society. Sometimes the options are just: Jail or Back-to-Same-Environment. In WV there just arent ‘places’ where people can get help. Treatment centers, counseling centers….places where people can get help. We dont have em. So, whats a coach sposed to do?
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vwvParticipantElections aren’t about policy. Which means…
Elections are all about “stories,” sales teams…
American voters really aren’t all that sophisticated. Most pick a team and stick with it…
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Agreed, in general.
But once you’ve said that….i dont think there’s much hope. I mean think about the natural consequences of those three things.
People with hope, usually end up talking about ‘magic’. They say things like “The Democrats just need to…”
And then they talk about magic. Like “The Dems just need to be a real opposition party, and take on the special moneyed-interests, etc” Um…yeah…but that would require… magic. The Dems are what they are. They are corporate-capitalists. 96 percent of em.sorry, i know how old this getz. I repeat myself.
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vwvParticipantDon’t be so sure that Trump completely failed the blue collar workers in the rust belt. As a result of Trump’s dumb tax cuts my middle class family got a thousand dollar refund in 2019. In 2018 I had to PAY $600 to the federal gov’t.
I have 3 young kids so doubling the child tax credit made a huge impact. Blue collar families might remember that in 2020.
I tend to think Trump will be easy to beat because Hillary was a crap candidate for those 3 states (and the rest of the US!) and he’s such a moron. But I do worry about the economy.
It will be interesting decide what those places decide next time around.
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On that note, 89 year-old wv-mom who lives on a small fixed income, told me she got more money under trump than Obama. I cant remember if she meant at tax time or in general, but I know she benefited in some way under Trump. So there’s that. And its very big to her.
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vwvParticipantThought I explained why. This election will be identical to 2016 in that it will be decided by electoral votes not on the plurality. Trump won Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania based on the blue collar vote and that put him into the Presidency. As I wrote above no matter how much those people believe Trump failed them I don’t think they will do anything different than they did in 2016 if to do so they would have to vote for what they consider to be a “socialist”. They will give Trump another try at fulfilling his promises to them in 2016. OTOH if its Biden he can draw their vote as he does have appeal with the blue collar voter.
Of course this is all my opinion and to be honest I don’t really care who the democratic nominee is as long as he or she can beat Trump.
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Well, there’s big problems no matter who the corporate-dem-party selects. If its Biden then the progressives may very well vote green-party or stay home. You dont seem to put that in your calculations. Do you not agree about that?
And of course if the dems choose Bernie, the centrists might stay home or vote trump or whatever.
And no matter who wins, the Senate and House and everything else is in the pockets of the Rich/Corps. So its a Hindenburg no matter what happens.
Trumps got a good chance. So does Biden. So does Bernie. Its like the Rams, Saints, and Chiefs. Hard to predict how all the algebra is gonna add up.
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vAugust 27, 2019 at 7:40 pm in reply to: Boots Riley on Tarantino Not Depicting Manson Family as White Supremacists #104380wvParticipantSo, is this true? Do we know one way or the other?
I was under the impression they thought there was going to ‘be’ a race war, not necessarily that they wanted one. But I dont know much about them.
“The Manson Family were overt white supremacists who tried to start a race war with the goal of killing black folks,” Riley wrote to his followers. “They weren’t ‘hippies’ spouting left critiques of media. They were rightwingers…”
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wvParticipantAugust 26, 2019 at 4:31 pm in reply to: the one-shot tweets thread (diff'rent stuff, funny angry interesting) #104332wvParticipantPhil Donahue was popular with women among other reasons, because he let them talk on his show. It was new, at the time — letting women talk on tv.
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vwvParticipantSo while subversives like you were burning your draft cards, I was serving my country by pointing out poison ivy to retired people on bus tours.
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Why cant we have GMO-poison ivy ?
If GMO is so great, why cant it make poison ivy…um…bigger, or even more poisony. Or somethin.
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vwvParticipantHe has written some articles for Radical History Review. Dunno if yer familiar with that pub. I wasn’t.
Link:https://read.dukeupress.edu/radical-history-review/search-results?page=1&q=Grandin&fl_SiteID=1000075
facebook:https://www.facebook.com/Radical-History-Review-134892751655/?__tn__=kC-R&eid=ARBW7083rpEyBWAvsKmb39BJPBqyyZe3Ds8bCgAc_ktivW9PDYs67NnJAURKrQMeiI1cPRLnDPLVGoDM&hc_ref=ARQzeqwSrCcOUqH1jr12Vl7jAXE8URAWkSjCB51sF1ZU3v2bsPOyUhfI671ZaGG_e_k&fref=nf&__xts__%5B0%5D=68.ARDyhtAAOFWItCZzoN5KmupZNaOMLDl9dBFcH27ILwfyejlmLsI7iYRYyFFR28QhFVI5uavmlgswSxzjzrSYXQsR4Cxf83DzjF3nQIt1s-mSn5prVvWtzgugn-4LiA3UWY9LieTWeYPBoq9r04cLgwrOSYg2OkKQhpcPCen6hmT9LNmJ0ouSWmDapDgOKaVFfLhtAxAcrpI53FdGRz3lc7J5axIbxnxhSjF1nGwR4W5ENy4O58oanu-fg3IcgA_Lm5-YEof3buGfSuM_Nf60sUlioxDv890kt-BrFJiUpL_-Ey08lgIRx9OIZK_B5e7aAdbwGVSfdeWBx212O1Yo
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PS: some good books here:https://dukeupress.wordpress.com/
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vwvParticipant“…will add one other thought I’ve had recently. Trump, as people have pointed out, is a Reality Show television. If that’s true – and I think it is to some extent – the good news is that Shtick inevitably grows stale, falls in the ratings, and gets cancelled.”
————-I dunno, Z, I dont think Trump is any more of a “reality show” than Obama, or Clinton or Nixon or Reagan or Bush, etc. The reality-show is the whole entire corporotacracy.
At any rate, I agree if the dems are to win, they need a positive message to go along with their anti-trump message. I think that will happen when the Dems get down to the one actual nominee.
There’s just too many dems right now.
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vwvParticipantDid McVay give up on that play?
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vwvParticipantI know his post-apocalyptic novel, The Scarlet Plague.
London is disappointing because he buys into racist pseudo-science.
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Yeah, i forgot about that. He liked dogs though.
Course so did Hitler.
I wonder if Stalin liked dogs?
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vwvParticipantNot only do atheists die earlier, they also don’t get to go to heaven.
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So where will Nittany go when he dies?
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vwvParticipantYeah, I dont buy into the notion that ‘belief’ adds up to more years on the planet, but, fwiw, and not that it matters, but in the Surfing book, the guy is not talking about ‘religion’ really. He’s talkin about ‘spirituality.’ Spirituality of surfing, being that feeling of ‘oneness’ when surfers are on a wave. Ya know. The ‘ego’ disappears and the surfer becomes the wind/water/sunlight/whatever.
He goes on to write about the ‘TCI’ or temperament and character inventory which measures among other things ‘self-transcendence.’ Self-transcendence being defined as composed of
(1)’trans-personal identification’ (Big Empathy – empathy with animals, plants, humans, etc)
(2) ‘mysticism’ – interest in ‘beyond-logic’ stuff
(3) ‘self-forgetfulness’ –penchant for getting lost in the moment, being in the ‘zone’ of art, sports, whatever.Blah, blah.
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vwvParticipantHe’s the single biggest reason for optimism this year, I’d say.
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vwvParticipantI think about 20 teams can win it. Its the NFL.
Best case scenario though, is, Rams vs Saints for the NFC Championship. Rams leading by two points with 20 seconds to go. Saints have the ball on their 35. Fourth down. Breez makes a perfect throw deep downfield, and Robey-Coleman breaks it up but gets called for P.I.
And of course. The call is overturned. By the new replay rule. Rams win.
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I dunno. I dont trust trees in general.
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vI like trees.
Which leads to a dog story.
Very early in Bondi’s existence with us I had to split some wood so I took him out with me, figuring he would just like to be outside when I was outside. I just envisioned him lying down and relaxing in the grass while I did work.
Nope. It took me a while, but after splitting log after log I looked over to check on him and he was clearly nervous. Me chopping wood freaked him out.
From then on, whenever I carried wood inside to put beside the woodstove, he would flee the room.
Our joke in the house was that when he talked about us to other animals, he would say in a terrified voice “have you seen what they do to trees??!!”
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Malamutes eat trees.
I bet you miss Bondi.
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vwvParticipantFunny. I live in two different worlds; literally: The first is Tri-State (AKA NYC Suburbs). The second is North Shore Boston. I’m usually in North Shore two to three days a week. When I am up there, I tend to listen to Sports Radio 98.5 FM, the Sports Hub. Back in Tri-State, I tend to listen to 660 AM WFAN. Interestingly, driving to MA, I have about 1.5 Hrs of New York Sports Radio, then 1.5 Hrs of Boston Radio. My god, they are a bunch of whiny bitches.
Anyway, the whole point of this rant (I mean, post) is because when Brady put his house on the market, the first question was, “Is there a team that is just a QB away from winning it all who would sign Brady for one year.” And, much to my chagrin, they picked the Rams as the team that is a really good team but has a bad QB.So, I ask you all, if we don’t win it all this year, and we don’t resign Goff, do we think about a 43 year old Brady??
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Nah, McSnead believes in Goff. With good reason.
The only way Goff would regress would be if the Oline fails and Goff gets himself all Bulgerized. That can happen to any QB, of course.
Goff is one of the pieces i just dont worry about anymore.
Now the biggest problem as i see it, is that number 99. The D.Lineman. If he doesn’t play better I think the national media is gonna start using the ‘B’ word — Bust.
I knew he was too small coming out of Pitt.w
vwvParticipantI don’t know… We are really good destroyers (Shiva and Kali are very proud, I’m sure). Not quite sure how good we’d be at the Brahma gig. Everything needs to die, and if the American Chestnut can’t get off the mat by itself, then it probably needs to stay dead. Like the Wooly Mammoth, and the Neanderthals, and the dinosaurs, and God.
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I dunno. I dont trust trees in general.
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vwvParticipant…met a guy who hates Enya…
wvParticipantHe had dueling scars on his face…
wvParticipantPrehistoric dolphin ancestors:
wvParticipant“People say,‘Oh, it’s demoralizing to lose the Super Bowl.’ I told the players this—it’s the best season I’ve ever been a part of.
———————Nice.
There were several thoughtful comments in that article.
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vwvParticipantI cant help think of what people like her what have said if Martin Luther King had killed himself. You know the story — Hoover and his FBI yes-men wanted King-the-Commie off the National stage, so they tried to blackmail him into committing ‘suicide.’
If he had killed himself, so many people would have said, “nothing to see here, just a suicide. Its the simplest explanation.”
Sometimes I get-ta-thinkin that some folks are so fed up with the never-ending, distracting, stupid-wacko-conspiracies, that they forget that there ARE plenty of real-conspiracies out there in human-being-land.
Again, my mantra — its hard to know who/what to trust anymore.
Can we trust that there will be a complete, thorough ‘investigation’ of this? Well how will we know if a thorough investigation will be undertaken? How would we ever know? It kinda comes down to how much you trust the institutions of America nowadays.
And again, i have no idea what happened.
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wvParticipant“…Could these same conspirators have ordered Epstein’s death and now be covering it up by claiming it’s suicide? It’s certainly not impossible… Could someone have ordered all these things in order to either create conditions for Epstein to die by suicide or perhaps even to set up a situation where an assassin could have murdered him? As I said earlier, it’s not impossible.
But, it is unlikely…”
————–My take is different. I think she’s minimizing the ‘possibility’ quotient. Murder in this case is more than just “not impossible” in my view. And i dont think murder is “unlikely.” My own view is, its a completely open question. Just as likely that he was murdered (or coerced) as it is that he simply killed himself.
So for me its just an open question.
I doubt if the mystery is ever resolved.
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