zn wrote:

Who’s “we”? I said they would be 10-6 this year…and that’s not playoffs, largely because, as you indicated, the OL injuries (along with the qb injury) that derailed last year had to be repaired with rookies.

By “we” I mean the royal “we”, as in “me”.

And believe we…er, I mean me, when I/we say, we are not amused by the state of this team.

PA Ram wrote:

The defense should solve its problems and be good enough if not elite.

Yet it seems the defense still hasn’t figured out GW’s scheme. As Mike said, these schemes fool our defense more than the other team’s offense. DB’s still don’t get their coverage assignments and the LB’s either can’t get off blocks or they’re missing their gaps. For that reason, despite the talent, I suspect this defense will probably be solid but not elite.

I think Foles is a “win ugly” kind of qb, but then, that’s fine. Nothing wrong with that.

A Joe Kapp or Billy Kilmer? I’ll take it.

Yeah, it’s hard to know what they have in Foles. I think he has enough ability but who knows? Last week he made a boneheaded rookie mistake with that pick six but then came back and made a cagey veteran play on the next series. Maybe tonight will start to tell us something but I’m going to reserve judgement until the games count and he’s working with a complete game plan. Fisher seems to be high on him but that doesn’t carry as much weight with me as it once did.

I still like that song and I’m a few decades beyond 15.

wv wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

This is most likely a 6 – 8 win team. Maybe they’ll do better but there’s nothing about this team that would suggest that they will be better than that. There’s no evidence they will be better. All we have is hope.

Well, I am still expecting to see a playoff team.
There’s just too much talent overall for this to be a six win team.

Granted, the first two preseason games have been
about as bad as I’ve ever seen.

On to practice-game-Three.

w
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Dear, sweet, innocent wv.

Always the cheerful optimist.

It will be sad to see that luminous spark in your eye extinguished when this team crashes and burns.

InvaderRam wrote:

i just hope against hope that the coaches were keeping the goodies under wraps until the regular season and that the players will actually show some pride when the games count.

We’ve been hoping that was the case for two or three straight preseasons.

It hasn’t worked out for us yet.

But hey, maybe THIS year! 😉

Seriously, it’s not like I’ve given up on the season after a coupla preseason games, but I have no expectations for this team.

This is most likely a 6 – 8 win team. Maybe they’ll do better but there’s nothing about this team that would suggest that they will be better than that. There’s no evidence they will be better. All we have is hope.

joemad wrote:

Pre-season records are meaningless.

Spags was 10-2 in preseason games…

I don’t care if they win the game. I would like them to at least look like they belong on the same field as an opponent that finished 2-14 last season.
I’m not even talking about what this portends for the season. I’m talking about having enough pride to do what it takes to not be embarrassed on national TV against a lesser opponent.

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I think Jenks is always going to be Jenks, which isn’t a bad thing in toto. It just means you’ll get good play mixed in with some mind-numbing stupidity.

I like the potential of the rest of the CB’s. TruJo was an up-in-comer but sorta took a step back last year. Hopefully he can get back on his upward trajectory.

joemad wrote:

Steve Spagnulo…..

10-2 preseason record with RAMS….. how’s that for evidence?

Yeah, but those preseason teams hadn’t been decimated by injuries yet.

So his preseason roster had a lot more talent than his regular season roster. If he had to go into preseason with the roster he had at the end of the regular season of that same year you can bet that record would be a lot less gaudy. 😉

rfl wrote:

Way, way back in time, the 80s, I think, I was looking idly at a Viking P/S game. They had been poor, but they had some new pieces on defense. I think John Randle was a key part of the package.

Anyway, they looked awesome in that P/S game. The defense did. They just dominated. I remember thinking, “Aw, don’t worry. This is P/S. It won’t mean much.” But you know, a completely mediocre team emerged that year as a dominant defense. What I saw in that P/S game was the goods.

I’ve seen the opposite scenario unfold too. I’ve seen teams play well in preseason only to morph into patsies when the games began to count. The Cowboys in Jimmy Johnson’s first year come to mind. There have been many others.

I will not believe this defense can dominate until it actually does. Even if they exhibit evidence of it in the next several preseason games it won’t really tell us how they will perform when the real season starts. Until they do it when the games matter it’s really evidence of nothing.

PA Ram wrote:

One of the greatest Green actresses.

She’s jealous.

Lots of contradicting reports from camp. Funny how people look at the same thing but see something totally different.

For example, misone says Saffold stalemates Donald and Brochers with ease. Says he only saw him get beat in practice once and that was on the first day. However others have said that Donald routinely beats Saffold.

And I think jimi said that he thought Gurley looks much closer to 100% than misone intimates.

This isn’t a big deal. Just think it’s interesting how people develop different perceptions even though they’re viewing the same data. Player evaluation ain’t an exact science by any stretch.

My wife and I saw it too. I agree with you. Good summer fun.

I got to hand it to him – despite being sort of a walking joke with the Scientology stuff and the bizarre public behavior, Tom Cruise makes enjoyable movies.