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nittany ramModeratorI am tired of the number of false starts, and holding calls we get.
The offsides penalties were maddening but I think that was an anomaly. The Rams weren’t committing as many penalties as previous year’s coming into this game. Now try to enjoy the win, Jack. š
nittany ramModeratorThe Rams defense is dominant. It may be the best in the league when you consider how little help they get from the offense. Think of what they would look like if they were paired with an offense that could stay on the field.
The offense struggles but usually manages to get a few big plays every game.
October 24, 2015 at 5:04 pm in reply to: as we prepare for the post-bye era: reporters preview the BROWNS game #32845
nittany ramModeratorthehammer
when the Rams rush the passer they win when they donāt they loseā¦.which is bad news this week. Thomas will dominate Quinn, Schwartz who shut out Von Miller will dominate Hayes and Westbrook? Greco, Bitonia and Mack will easily shut down Donald who has had 5 straight games of declining pff scoresā¦
Clevelandās an elite 3rd down team that features rb Duke Johnson, 2nd best receiving rb in last years draft, and te Barnridgeā¦vs our poor covering lberās and safetiesā¦.Rams are 27th in the league in pd even with that pass rush. have a hard time seeing the Rams holding Cleveland under 28 points
IMO game comes down to how many points do the Rams offense scoreā¦better be more then 28. Shelton will manhandle Barnes. Rams moved Garrett Reynolds to lg to help the hapless Robinson. Kirksey has the speed to get outside vs Gurley. Nate Orchard is getting more snaps over Krugerā¦.like the Rams lot of young talent.
lot of bad matchups.BUT a home game after a bye weekā¦a test of the coaching staff..good coaches will dominate opponents after the bye..especially in a home game. Fisher moved Reynolds to lg. We will see what other changes they made. IMO this game IS the season. Fisher and the Rams have to win to have any credibility
going forwardā¦for the sack of argument lets say the feckless Rams win 31-28 to keep fans dreams alive BUT the end of all pro Fisher threads if they lose
Sheesh…I didn’t realize Cleveland was such a juggernaut.
The Broncos managed to sack McCown 4 times, despite any success they had against Von Miller. If the Broncos could get to McCown, so can the Rams.
He talks about bad match-ups for the Rams, but the most glaring match-up I see is Gurley against the league’s 30th ranked rush defense.
I’m not saying the Rams can’t lose – we know all too well just how adept the Rams are at losing to teams they shouldn’t lose to – but there’s no way that at least on paper, most of the match-ups don’t favor the Rams. This is a game the Rams *should* win, not one they would be lucky to win as the hammer suggests.
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October 24, 2015 at 12:19 pm in reply to: catch percentage, drops, and other bad things from the dark side #32835
nittany ramModeratorEven if some guys do return to form getting another WR may not be a bad idea. As Cosell says somewhere below, the Rams receiving group is pretty average and they lack a true number one WR.
Except it looks better when Kendricks and Quick are performing, Cook gets his career average, and thereās pass protection.
(Career avg. on Cook isnāt good but heās worse now. In 2013 it was 0.375 drops per game, in 2014 it was 0.3125 drops per game, in 2015 so far itās 0.6 drops per gameā¦his avg. has doubled over what it was the last 2 years.)
Cosell, remember, is not a Rams historian. Last year he didnāt complain about the receivers. This year, he doesnāt recall what he said last year about the Rams receivers, though. Itās a thing where recent impressions become more absolute.
I am not against getting a receiver, but I am interested in the fact that so many look worse than usual at the same time. Honestly, what are the odds that 4 WRs/TEs all show career worst problems all at the same time? What that suggests to me is that the problem may not be the players. Thereās something else going on.
And I donāt have any idea what that could be, except that last time there was a drops epidemic involving several players was in 2011. New system and not feeling comfortable.
It may also be that catching passes from Foles in practices and in games isnāt the same, which hints at an adjustment period as they all get on the same page.
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You seem to be very invested in the Rams not getting better at receiver?
Why?
What do you stand to gain if the Rams’ passing game doesn’t improve?
October 24, 2015 at 10:51 am in reply to: catch percentage, drops, and other bad things from the dark side #32833
nittany ramModeratorMaybe draft a WR high next year?
Maybe sign a solid Vet WR ?Unless, as I suggested, a guy or 2 returns to form. For example, Kendricks led them in catch percentage for 3 straight years (2012-14). This recent drops thing is actually unusual for him.
There is not doom in EVERYTHING.

Sometimes, some stuff gets better.

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Even if some guys do return to form getting another WR may not be a bad idea. As Cosell says somewhere below, the Rams receiving group is pretty average and they lack a true number one WR.
nittany ramModeratorNo Excuses For Rams: Itās Now or Never
Bernie Miklasz
Could we please stop pretending that the Rams would have gone on some dynamic, unstoppable run with a healthy Bradford at QB?
Oh Bernie, you knucklehead, you.
Do you really think a healthy Sam Bradford wouldn’t have had a significant impact on the Rams’ record the past couple of seasons? Really? There were plenty of games there for the taking but for a lack of a competent QB.
nittany ramModeratorJenkins
Johnson
Mcleod
Barnes are the only starters. Although,
Barron
Quick
Zuerlein are close to being considered starters.All the rest are backups or rotational players.
Wow, that’s a large fraction of their defensive backfield going into Free Agency. Hard to imagine being able to resign them all.
Assuming the Rams first pick is nestled somewhere deep in the second half of the first round (fingers crossed), I guess they’ll be looking at guys like Mills, Sutton and Connors as replacements.
nittany ramModeratorI just remember the physicality and toughness exhibited by the Rams that day and their refusal to quit. Even as long as he had been a Ram I still had not really warmed up to SJax going into that game. I liked him as a player but to me he was nothing special. But the sheer determination and will to win he exhibited in that game won me over. It’s easily my favorite SJax performance.
nittany ramModeratorLet me help you out: Helpful Advice for Nittany
Thanks. All settled in in Oakland Hills, the affluent part of Oakland.
Of course, I’m living in the most exclusive area…in a refrigerator box by the dumpster behind “Sophie’s Cuppa Tea”.
My prediction…Rams 27, Cleveland 16. Rams start to figure stuff out.
nittany ramModeratorThe Browns will look back on this game as the one whichā¦umā¦made their seasonā¦umā¦.
Because they destroy…um…the…um so bad that…um…?
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We did good against Rogers. 3 ā3 and outsā, 3 turnovers, and only gave up 17 points on defense. I liked that we played more tight coverage and didnāt always give up the short pass. It didnāt feel like our typical form of defense. I was glad to see the change and glad that it worked. You can play good defense with the bend donāt break stuff. Look what TBay did with the cover 2 back in the day. But, I prefer the more dynamic stuff. Lets get more shutouts. We got a couple last year.
I suspect a great ‘bend but don’t break’ defense can get a lot of three and outs against inferior teams that just don’t match up. Plus perhaps you can take more chances against offenses that are less likely to hurt you for it.
nittany ramModeratorThe positive stats from above are of course the 19 sacks and the 5 TD passes given up.
The Rams only gave up 5 TD’s to the likes of Wilson, Rothlesberger, Palmer and Rodgers. 5 TD’s in 5 games against that ‘murderer’s row’ of QB’s is about as good as it get’s, IMO.
Opposing teams have been able to matriculate the ball down the field between the 20’s despite facing a tremendous pass rush through short, quick passes. But when they get into the red zone the defense can compress and guard against the short stuff. So the offense is forced to settle for FG’s. That stat line is what you would expect from a successful bend but don’t break defense I suppose.
nittany ramModeratorDoes Cook’s mere presence open things up for other receivers though? A big, rangy TE that can run must command some attention from the defense. I’ve always been a Kendricks fan but he seems a little stiff to me and although I like Harkey’s blocking I’m not sure he’s a threat down the field in the passing game.
I’m not saying the Rams shouldn’t trade him, but there must be a reason he gets so much PT despite being a poor blocker and having bad hands.
nittany ramModeratorAlbeit I’ve only seen them once but watching the Browns against Denver I was sorta reminded of the Rams in 2012. Not real talented but dangerous nonetheless. This game is no gimmee.
nittany ramModeratorMy impression of the Browns was that they aren’t good but they are scrappy. They won’t come into the ED ready to roll over. The Rams can’t afford to sleep walk through this game.
nittany ramModeratorI know, it’s awesome.
Of course, the Rams victory over the Seahawks is becoming less and less impressive as each week passes but it is still fun to watch them lose.
nittany ramModerator<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>Can I trade him to Minn for Patterson?</span>
So we trade one hyper-athletic guy who can’t catch for one who can’t run routes…
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nittany ramModeratorI might watch the Denver-Cleveland game. This is a chance to see how the Rams’ next opponent looks against a good team.
nittany ramModeratorIf they were really serious about stopping this sort of infraction, they would award the Rams the victory. I bet Mathews would think twice before roughing another QB if it was going to cost his team the game. Of course, we already knew the league wasn’t really interested in cleaning up the game when they refused to adopt my suggestion regarding forced amputations as punishment for horse collar infractions.
nittany ramModeratorthe defense should have no problems with the browns. i donāt care what the stats say. theyāve competed against some of the best backfields in the nfl and contained them. maybe they havenāt shut them down, but theyāve contained them. they shouldnāt have a problem with cleveland.
on offense, they should run them ragged. mason should be involved as well. even if they canāt get the passing game going, they should be able to run the ball effectively.
if they get outplayed, then i will be very disappointed. that would be a huge step back.
I’ll be disappointed if the Rams don’t win by at least 10 points.
nittany ramModeratorThe Rams should beat Cleveland convincingly. The Achilles heal for the Rams of course is the o-line. Can the Browns exploit this weakness like the Packers did? Have the Rams been able to correct some of their o-line issues over the break?
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nittany ramModeratorSeems to be a huge disparity between PFF’s evaluation of GR and those in this thread.
nittany ramModeratorI predict the time between now and the Cleveland game will pass way too friggin slowly. I may lose it.
October 12, 2015 at 5:46 pm in reply to: Proud of the defense. Offense? Not so much… (game reaction thread) #32250
nittany ramModerator<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>We turned Rogers into an ordinary QB. We did it wo/ blitzing.</span>
<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>The GBay defense is better than I thought it was. They played almost as good as our defense. imo They couldnāt stop Gurley. I hope we donāt wear Gurley out before he gets is brace off. š</span>
He’s wearing a brace? He runs like that and he’s wearing a brace?!
Look out, league…
nittany ramModeratorHappy B-day, Dude. Hope the Packers didn’t spoil the party.
nittany ramModeratorWhy do you think I sleep with a squirt gun filled with seawater under my pillow?!
Well to be honest I thought you got that from The Larry Marmie Guide to Preventing Home Burglaries.
But triffids? Yeah that makes more sense.
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I think Marmie would suggest that I just use my pillow…

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nittany ramModeratorHekker.
What? It could happen.
Ya think Hekker’s skills are limited to fake punts?
It’s brilliant too because it’s the LAST thing Rodgers would suspect…well, other than the Spanish Inquisition.
No one ever suspects the Inquisition.
October 11, 2015 at 6:33 am in reply to: Rams bad luck evolves from injuries to the threat of radioactive stink clouds #32099
nittany ramModeratorI dunno, perhaps exposing the players to radiation wouldn’t be such a bad thing…

nittany ramModeratorObviously you havenāt seen Day of the Triffids.
Have I seen it?!
Why do you think I sleep with a squirt gun filled with seawater under my pillow?!
nittany ramModeratorhttp://healthydebate.ca/2015/10/topic/are-genetically-modified-foods-unhealthy
Genetically modified foods have been met with consumer backlash since they were first introduced in the 1990s. Recently, however, calls for non-genetically engineered options have gotten even louder.
In April, Major North American fast food chain Chipotle announced it would endeavor to provide non-genetically engineered menu options (which is, albeit, not 100% possible). This past summer, celebrities including Jordana Brewster and Ginnifer Goodwin signed on to a campaign calling on U.S. food companies to reveal ingredients derived from genetically modified organisms (GMOs). And the New Democratic Party of Canada has recently called for labelling of genetically modified foods.
These campaigns are based on concerns that GMO foods might not be safe for consumption or could damage the environment. Anti-GMO proponents claim GMO foods are linked to everything from cancer to allergies. The David Suzuki Foundationās website warns āa growing body of research connects [GMO] foods with health concerns and environmental damage.ā (A media representative of the David Suzuki Foundation explained that the Foundation couldnāt provide an interview because none of the scientists at the organization are currently researching GMO foods.)
In contrast, major governmental and health organizations, including Health Canada, the European Commission and the Food and Drug Administration, have examined hundreds of studies and concluded that there is no evidence GMO foods are any less safe for consumption than conventional foods.
When the independent non-profit PEW Research Center asked scientists and members of the public about their views on 13 commonly debated topics, genetically modified foods was the issue that divided scientists and the public the most. In the 2015 poll, 88% of scientists polled across an array of disciplines responded that GMO foods are safe, while only 37% of the general public believed they were safe.
We look at what the evidence says about the GMO foods that are currently on the market.
What are GMO foods?
Genetically modified foods are foods that come from plants with DNA that has been changed in a way that does not occur naturally by conventional or modern breeding techniques. This could mean changing the way a gene in a plant behaves, or inserting one or more gene into the genome of a plant, which contains tens of thousands of genes. The inserted gene, which might be derived from viral, bacterial or plant DNA, is added because it contains a desired trait.While food can be modified for a variety of reasons, including to make it more nutritious, the genetically modified foods weāre exposed to have generally been modified for two reasons, according to Rene Van Acker, professor and associate Dean of the Ontario Agricultural College at the University of Guelph. āThe traits that weāre talking about that are GM-conferred are herbicide tolerance or insect resistance,ā says Van Acker. With genetically modified corn, for example, a bacterial gene is inserted because it produces a protein that is toxic to some insects, but not to humans.
One major exception, points out Andreas Boecker, a professor in Food, Agricultural & Resource Economics at the University of Guelph, is the Hawaiian papaya, which was facing extinction before it was genetically modified to be resistant to the virus killing it.
One of the biggest misconceptions of GMO foods is that āalmost all produce is genetically modified,ā says Van Acker. Because genetic modification is expensive, the technology is only cost effective when applied to large-scale crops, such as wheat, soy, canola and corn. So while the tomatoes we buy arenāt genetically engineered, more than 90% of soy growing in the US is genetically modified to tolerate herbicides.
What do we know about the safety of GMO foods?
Before a genetically modified product can be sold to farmers or consumers, the company producing the GMO food must perform numerous safety tests and submit nutritional and allergenic information on the product to Health Canada. According to Brian Ellis, a professor in the Department of Botany at the University of British Columbia, itās a process that takes years and is extremely expensive. āThe approval process can cost over $100 million dollars to bring a really new genetically modified product to the market,ā says Ellis. āMost of that cost is the testing.āSafety testing is meant to screen out products that could be harmful. For example, when soybeans developed by Pioneer Hi-Bred International were found to have the same chemical that causes peanut allergies, the product was abandoned and never went forward to market. None of the GMO products thus far approved have been shown to have any adverse health outcomes.
āThese foods have undergone more extensive testing than any food that has come on the market,ā explains Joe Schwarcz, professor of chemistry at McGill University and director of the Office for Science and Society.
In addition to the industry tests, numerous independent studies have been conducted. In 2010, the European Commission released a summary of 130 research projects on GMO foods that had been funded by the Commission over a decade. The studies revealed āno scientific evidence associating GMOs with higher risks for the environment or for food and feed safety than conventional plants and organisms,ā according to a press release from the organization. A systematic review of animal feeding trials (both industry and non-industry funded) also concluded GM plants to be safe.
As with fluoride in water or vaccines or almost any health-related technology, some animal studies have been used to suggest that GMO foods could cause harm to human health. These studies are too methodologically flawed, however, to prove anything.
Some scientists and anti-GMO activists argue that GMO foods cannot be seen as safe because epidemiological or large-scale randomized controlled studies in humans havenāt been carried out.
Schwarcz points out that even though āweāve been eating these foods for 20 to 25 years,ā itās possible āthere is some subtle health affect and we wouldnāt know it because we live in such a complex world.ā He is quick to point out, however, that āwe know a lotā about the safety of GMO foods. āBased on what we know about the technology involved, and based on what we know about the body, itās extremely unlikely.ā
Should we be worried about GMOs damaging the environment?
More prominent than the health concerns with GMO foods are the environment-related fears. Here the science is more contested, especially because the scientific community has not agreed on standardized methodologies when it comes to measuring environmental impacts.One review of around 850 studies concluded that genetically engineered crops have not had more negative environmental impacts than conventional crops. But some studies have raised potential risks ā such as to moths or butterflies in surrounding fields ā that require further research.
An especially polarizing environmental issue is whether GMO crops increase or decrease the use of chemicals in agriculture. In explaining its decision not to use GMO ingredients, Chipotle cites a study that estimated pesticide and herbicide use increased by more than 400 million pounds over four years due to GMO crops. The study was conducted by a scientist funded by the organic food industry.
One European government-funded review of 147 studies came to the opposite conclusion, finding that GMO crops had resulted in a 37% drop in pesticide use. While many of the studies were industry funded, the researchers analyzed the studies by funding source and found industry funding did not āsignificantly influence the impact estimates.ā
Van Acker is of the opinion that more long-term studies are necessary to see if GMO foods increase or decrease herbicide and pesticide use. He explains that while GMO crops initially result in less chemical use, as weeds develop resistance or GMO crops spread into unwanted areas, pesticide and herbicide use can increase over time. He explains, however, that once GMO crops begin to require more expensive chemicals, farmers tend to stop using them. āFarmers are not pro-GM crops or anti GM-crops,ā says Van Acker. āTheyāre pro-whatever is good for their business.ā
Sylvain Charlebois, currently a visiting professor at the University of Innsbruck in Austria, says that itās important that governments and independent institutions continue to fund studies on the environmental and gene flow effects of GMOs. āItās important to make sure that we assess longitudinal, environmental risk, and thatās hard to assess in a lab,ā says Charlebois. Boecker agrees. While he is sympathetic to arguments that GMO science is too heavily dominated by industry, he argues that rather than restricting or labelling GMO foods, the debate should instead focus on āhow much do [independent research institutions] need to invest in risk assessment and management to make risks acceptable?ā
Why is there a disconnect between scientists and the public on GMO foods?
The science thus far tells us that GMO crops donāt pose a risk to human health and could have both positive and negative environmental affects that need to be continually monitored and mitigated. So why do most consumers feel GMO foods are dangerous?Partly, the public opinion reflects āa fundamental distrust of science and technology,ā says Ellis. āItās a thread that runs strongly through our society still.ā One recent survey found that while 72% of respondents think itās important to know science in their daily lives, a third of respondents believed scientists adjust their findings to get the answers they want. Inaccurate reporting of science relating to GMO foods in mainstream media and blogs hasnāt helped.
Stemming from this distrust is the belief that there is something intrinsically bad about human interventions in natural processes, explains Schwarz. āNature is not exactly benign,ā he says, making reference to āviruses, bacteria, natural carcinogens, alfatoxins.ā Plus, he says, the movement of foreign genes into plant DNA is not so contrary to nature. āHumans are constantly exchanging genes with bacteria,ā he explains.
But Charlebois says GMO producers are also to blame for the confusion. In a case study of Monsanto, Charlebois found the company allowed distrust and ill will to proliferate because the company largely ignored the public, instead engaging with farmers and agricultural industry stakeholders on GMO science. āThey were selling a product without really engaging with consumers,ā he says. Though he admits the distrust of the technology is partly due to a general distrust in the major corporations that use it, Charlebois argues that the āFrankenfoodsā fears could have been better countered had industry scientists engaged with the public through the mainstream and social media.
Perhaps learning from the importance of public dialogue, Arctic Apples, the company behind the non-browning apple recently approved for sale in Canada, prominently explains on its website how biotechnologists modified the apple by turning off the activity of certain genes. Commonly called āgene editing,ā this practice is different from transferring foreign genes into a genome, but Ellis predicts that gene editing will become a more common method of genetic modification in the future.
In the end, trust in GMO foods may have less to do with the science and more to do with how that science is explained ā by the media, by scientists and by industry representatives. āThe activists are very good at what they do in getting their message out,ā argues Schwarz. And the scientists? āTheyāre not.ā
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