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nittany ramModeratorLMU93
Apart from the Rams’ division games I’d call that Vikings’ game a must-win to have a shot at a playoff berth. Long way to go but could be a factor come late December.
If you assume both Minnesota (vs. Chicago) and the Rams (vs. SF) win this weekend, then they’re both in wildcard contention.
A Rams win vs. the Vikings would have them both at 5-3 but the Rams would have not only the head-to-head tiebreaker but a 4-2 record in the NFC vs. 3-2 for Minnesota.
Minn is doing well but they lost to the only good team they’ve played so it’s hard to get an accurate read on them. Still, beating the Vikings on the road will be difficult.
nittany ramModeratorYeah, but wouldn’t how long he holds the ball be partially out of his control? If his first read is open he can throw quickly. But if his first read fails to get separation, then he has to move through his other reads until he finds someone who is open which means he has to hold the ball longer.
So we just can’t say “Foles should just throw quicker”, because when he throws isn’t entirely up to him.
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nittany ramModeratorFoles has given me nuthin’ I didn’t get from Hill.
Yeah, Foles could be better, but I think he’s noticeably better than Hill (and Clemmons and Davis). He at least can make throws down the field which Hill and the others couldn’t make. I think he’s going to improve as the year progresses. Part of the problem is, as usual, the Rams WR’s don’t scare anyone. In camp with Quick out Foles and Cook developed a rapport because Cook is all-world in practice. Problem is, in the games Cook’s not even all-township. Maybe Quick will start to get back to where he was before the injury which would give Foles another option in the passing game that defenses would have to respect. Right now the Rams passing game is pretty limited. It consists of bubble screens to Tavon, short crossing routes to Cook and the occasional deep throw to Britt and Bailey.
nittany ramModeratorKapernick trained under Warner this past offseason and actually looks worse than ever.
Could it be that Warner, like any respectable ex-Ram/Cardinal should do, purposely sabotaged the 49ers QB’s career?
nittany ramModeratorI am tired of the number of false starts, and holding calls we get.
The offsides penalties were maddening but I think that was an anomaly. The Rams weren’t committing as many penalties as previous year’s coming into this game. Now try to enjoy the win, Jack. 😎
nittany ramModeratorThe Rams defense is dominant. It may be the best in the league when you consider how little help they get from the offense. Think of what they would look like if they were paired with an offense that could stay on the field.
The offense struggles but usually manages to get a few big plays every game.
October 24, 2015 at 5:04 pm in reply to: as we prepare for the post-bye era: reporters preview the BROWNS game #32845
nittany ramModeratorthehammer
when the Rams rush the passer they win when they don’t they lose….which is bad news this week. Thomas will dominate Quinn, Schwartz who shut out Von Miller will dominate Hayes and Westbrook? Greco, Bitonia and Mack will easily shut down Donald who has had 5 straight games of declining pff scores…
Cleveland’s an elite 3rd down team that features rb Duke Johnson, 2nd best receiving rb in last years draft, and te Barnridge…vs our poor covering lber’s and safeties….Rams are 27th in the league in pd even with that pass rush. have a hard time seeing the Rams holding Cleveland under 28 points
IMO game comes down to how many points do the Rams offense score…better be more then 28. Shelton will manhandle Barnes. Rams moved Garrett Reynolds to lg to help the hapless Robinson. Kirksey has the speed to get outside vs Gurley. Nate Orchard is getting more snaps over Kruger….like the Rams lot of young talent.
lot of bad matchups.BUT a home game after a bye week…a test of the coaching staff..good coaches will dominate opponents after the bye..especially in a home game. Fisher moved Reynolds to lg. We will see what other changes they made. IMO this game IS the season. Fisher and the Rams have to win to have any credibility
going forward…for the sack of argument lets say the feckless Rams win 31-28 to keep fans dreams alive BUT the end of all pro Fisher threads if they lose
Sheesh…I didn’t realize Cleveland was such a juggernaut.
The Broncos managed to sack McCown 4 times, despite any success they had against Von Miller. If the Broncos could get to McCown, so can the Rams.
He talks about bad match-ups for the Rams, but the most glaring match-up I see is Gurley against the league’s 30th ranked rush defense.
I’m not saying the Rams can’t lose – we know all too well just how adept the Rams are at losing to teams they shouldn’t lose to – but there’s no way that at least on paper, most of the match-ups don’t favor the Rams. This is a game the Rams *should* win, not one they would be lucky to win as the hammer suggests.
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October 24, 2015 at 12:19 pm in reply to: catch percentage, drops, and other bad things from the dark side #32835
nittany ramModeratorEven if some guys do return to form getting another WR may not be a bad idea. As Cosell says somewhere below, the Rams receiving group is pretty average and they lack a true number one WR.
Except it looks better when Kendricks and Quick are performing, Cook gets his career average, and there’s pass protection.
(Career avg. on Cook isn’t good but he’s worse now. In 2013 it was 0.375 drops per game, in 2014 it was 0.3125 drops per game, in 2015 so far it’s 0.6 drops per game…his avg. has doubled over what it was the last 2 years.)
Cosell, remember, is not a Rams historian. Last year he didn’t complain about the receivers. This year, he doesn’t recall what he said last year about the Rams receivers, though. It’s a thing where recent impressions become more absolute.
I am not against getting a receiver, but I am interested in the fact that so many look worse than usual at the same time. Honestly, what are the odds that 4 WRs/TEs all show career worst problems all at the same time? What that suggests to me is that the problem may not be the players. There’s something else going on.
And I don’t have any idea what that could be, except that last time there was a drops epidemic involving several players was in 2011. New system and not feeling comfortable.
It may also be that catching passes from Foles in practices and in games isn’t the same, which hints at an adjustment period as they all get on the same page.
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You seem to be very invested in the Rams not getting better at receiver?
Why?
What do you stand to gain if the Rams’ passing game doesn’t improve?
October 24, 2015 at 10:51 am in reply to: catch percentage, drops, and other bad things from the dark side #32833
nittany ramModeratorMaybe draft a WR high next year?
Maybe sign a solid Vet WR ?Unless, as I suggested, a guy or 2 returns to form. For example, Kendricks led them in catch percentage for 3 straight years (2012-14). This recent drops thing is actually unusual for him.
There is not doom in EVERYTHING.

Sometimes, some stuff gets better.

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Even if some guys do return to form getting another WR may not be a bad idea. As Cosell says somewhere below, the Rams receiving group is pretty average and they lack a true number one WR.
nittany ramModeratorNo Excuses For Rams: It’s Now or Never
Bernie Miklasz
Could we please stop pretending that the Rams would have gone on some dynamic, unstoppable run with a healthy Bradford at QB?
Oh Bernie, you knucklehead, you.
Do you really think a healthy Sam Bradford wouldn’t have had a significant impact on the Rams’ record the past couple of seasons? Really? There were plenty of games there for the taking but for a lack of a competent QB.
nittany ramModeratorJenkins
Johnson
Mcleod
Barnes are the only starters. Although,
Barron
Quick
Zuerlein are close to being considered starters.All the rest are backups or rotational players.
Wow, that’s a large fraction of their defensive backfield going into Free Agency. Hard to imagine being able to resign them all.
Assuming the Rams first pick is nestled somewhere deep in the second half of the first round (fingers crossed), I guess they’ll be looking at guys like Mills, Sutton and Connors as replacements.
nittany ramModeratorI just remember the physicality and toughness exhibited by the Rams that day and their refusal to quit. Even as long as he had been a Ram I still had not really warmed up to SJax going into that game. I liked him as a player but to me he was nothing special. But the sheer determination and will to win he exhibited in that game won me over. It’s easily my favorite SJax performance.
nittany ramModeratorLet me help you out: Helpful Advice for Nittany
Thanks. All settled in in Oakland Hills, the affluent part of Oakland.
Of course, I’m living in the most exclusive area…in a refrigerator box by the dumpster behind “Sophie’s Cuppa Tea”.
My prediction…Rams 27, Cleveland 16. Rams start to figure stuff out.
nittany ramModeratorThe Browns will look back on this game as the one which…um…made their season…um….
Because they destroy…um…the…um so bad that…um…?
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We did good against Rogers. 3 ‘3 and outs’, 3 turnovers, and only gave up 17 points on defense. I liked that we played more tight coverage and didn’t always give up the short pass. It didn’t feel like our typical form of defense. I was glad to see the change and glad that it worked. You can play good defense with the bend don’t break stuff. Look what TBay did with the cover 2 back in the day. But, I prefer the more dynamic stuff. Lets get more shutouts. We got a couple last year.
I suspect a great ‘bend but don’t break’ defense can get a lot of three and outs against inferior teams that just don’t match up. Plus perhaps you can take more chances against offenses that are less likely to hurt you for it.
nittany ramModeratorThe positive stats from above are of course the 19 sacks and the 5 TD passes given up.
The Rams only gave up 5 TD’s to the likes of Wilson, Rothlesberger, Palmer and Rodgers. 5 TD’s in 5 games against that ‘murderer’s row’ of QB’s is about as good as it get’s, IMO.
Opposing teams have been able to matriculate the ball down the field between the 20’s despite facing a tremendous pass rush through short, quick passes. But when they get into the red zone the defense can compress and guard against the short stuff. So the offense is forced to settle for FG’s. That stat line is what you would expect from a successful bend but don’t break defense I suppose.
nittany ramModeratorDoes Cook’s mere presence open things up for other receivers though? A big, rangy TE that can run must command some attention from the defense. I’ve always been a Kendricks fan but he seems a little stiff to me and although I like Harkey’s blocking I’m not sure he’s a threat down the field in the passing game.
I’m not saying the Rams shouldn’t trade him, but there must be a reason he gets so much PT despite being a poor blocker and having bad hands.
nittany ramModeratorAlbeit I’ve only seen them once but watching the Browns against Denver I was sorta reminded of the Rams in 2012. Not real talented but dangerous nonetheless. This game is no gimmee.
nittany ramModeratorMy impression of the Browns was that they aren’t good but they are scrappy. They won’t come into the ED ready to roll over. The Rams can’t afford to sleep walk through this game.
nittany ramModeratorI know, it’s awesome.
Of course, the Rams victory over the Seahawks is becoming less and less impressive as each week passes but it is still fun to watch them lose.
nittany ramModerator<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>Can I trade him to Minn for Patterson?</span>
So we trade one hyper-athletic guy who can’t catch for one who can’t run routes…
😉
nittany ramModeratorI might watch the Denver-Cleveland game. This is a chance to see how the Rams’ next opponent looks against a good team.
nittany ramModeratorIf they were really serious about stopping this sort of infraction, they would award the Rams the victory. I bet Mathews would think twice before roughing another QB if it was going to cost his team the game. Of course, we already knew the league wasn’t really interested in cleaning up the game when they refused to adopt my suggestion regarding forced amputations as punishment for horse collar infractions.
nittany ramModeratorthe defense should have no problems with the browns. i don’t care what the stats say. they’ve competed against some of the best backfields in the nfl and contained them. maybe they haven’t shut them down, but they’ve contained them. they shouldn’t have a problem with cleveland.
on offense, they should run them ragged. mason should be involved as well. even if they can’t get the passing game going, they should be able to run the ball effectively.
if they get outplayed, then i will be very disappointed. that would be a huge step back.
I’ll be disappointed if the Rams don’t win by at least 10 points.
nittany ramModeratorThe Rams should beat Cleveland convincingly. The Achilles heal for the Rams of course is the o-line. Can the Browns exploit this weakness like the Packers did? Have the Rams been able to correct some of their o-line issues over the break?
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nittany ramModeratorSeems to be a huge disparity between PFF’s evaluation of GR and those in this thread.
nittany ramModeratorI predict the time between now and the Cleveland game will pass way too friggin slowly. I may lose it.
October 12, 2015 at 5:46 pm in reply to: Proud of the defense. Offense? Not so much… (game reaction thread) #32250
nittany ramModerator<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>We turned Rogers into an ordinary QB. We did it wo/ blitzing.</span>
<span class=”d4pbbc-font-color” style=”color: blue”>The GBay defense is better than I thought it was. They played almost as good as our defense. imo They couldn’t stop Gurley. I hope we don’t wear Gurley out before he gets is brace off. 😉</span>
He’s wearing a brace? He runs like that and he’s wearing a brace?!
Look out, league…
nittany ramModeratorHappy B-day, Dude. Hope the Packers didn’t spoil the party.
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