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  • #104489
    zn
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    Rams cuts, first 18: https://www.therams.com/news/rams-make-initial-roster-cuts-18-players-released

    QB Allen, Brandon

    G Beecham, Abdul

    TE Blanton, Kendall

    TE Brooker, Romello

    TE Brown, Keenen

    RB Colburn, Matt

    DB Gervase, Jake

    WR Greene, Jalen

    T Hitner, Brandon

    C Hrynkiewicz, Vitas

    DT Jones, Bryant

    T Kaskey, Matt

    LB Kupp, Ketner

    WR Lloyd, Johnathan

    P Miller, Brock

    WR Proehl, Austin

    DB Richards, Ramon

    DT Roberts, Boogie

    #104492
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    That leaves about 18 to go.

    Agamemnon

    #104493
    joemad
    Participant

    Boogie Roberts …. it was a long shot but I was rooting a beloved San Jose State Spartan

    There’s still hope for fellow Spartan Jeremiah Kolone to make the roster…

    I guess no family affair for Kupp and Proehl……

    #104497
    Hram
    Participant

    Looks to me they are holding back on the ones they would prefer to make it through to the practice squad.

    #104499
    zn
    Moderator

    Los Angeles Rams@RamsNFL
    The 53-man roster must be set by tomorrow at 1 PM PT.

    #104503
    JackPMiller
    Participant

    Did not know the practice squad is now up to 10 players. Interesting.

    I believe this is how the PS could could go.
    Brian Allen
    Abdul Beecham(I believe he was told he will be on the PS)
    One of the TE’s we cut
    Matt Kaskey
    Bryant Jones or Boogie Roberts
    One of the WRs we cut
    One of the DBs we cut
    The others will come from other teams.

    #104522
    zn
    Moderator

    Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
    Rams cutting linebacker Dakota Allen, according to league source

    Mike Garafolo@MikeGarafolo
    #Rams are waiving CB Donte Deayon, source says. He had a pick this preseason, has four INTs the last three preseasons combined. Poor kid is undersized, though, and that’s what teams often can’t get over.

    #104525
    zn
    Moderator

    Aaron Wilson@AaronWilson_NFL
    Rams cut John Franklin-Myers, per a league source. Good defensive lineman, should see action on waivers. Fourth-round draft pick last year. Played over 200 snaps as a rookie, had strip sack against Vikings and sacked Tom Brady in Super Bowl. Rams’ team Rookie of the Year last yr

    #104526
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    https://www.therams.com/news/rams-trim-roster-down-to-53-players

    Saturday, Aug 31, 2019 12:14 PM
    Rams trim roster down to 53 players

    Jamie Han

    After releasing 18 players on Friday, the club released 19 additional players on Saturday to reach 53 players on the roster heading into the regular season. The Rams made the following transaction:

    Waived, No Recall:

    Allen, Dakota (LB – Texas Tech)
    Brewer, Chandler (T – Middle Tennessee)
    Copeland, Marquise (DT – Cincinnati)
    Davis, Justin (RB – Southern California)
    Deayon, Donte (DB – Boise State)
    Durham, Landis (DE – Texas A&M)
    Franklin, John (DE – Stephen F. Austin)
    Hodge, Khadarel (WR – Prairie View)
    Kelly, John (RB – Tennessee)
    Kolone, Jeremiah (G – San Jose State)
    Parker, Steven (DB – Oklahoma)
    Peterson, Kevin (DB – Oklahoma State)
    Wolford, John (QB – Wake Forest)

    Waived, Injured:

    Bachman, Alex (WR – Wake Forest)
    Carraway, Josh (LB – Texas Christian)
    Hatfield, Dominique (DB – Utah)
    Young, Trevon (LB – Louisville)

    Reserve/Injured:

    Kiser, Micah (LB – Virginia)

    Suspended:

    Neary, Aaron (C – Eastern Washington)

    In addition to the 53-man roster, the team may sign upto 10 practice squad players beginning this Sunday, at 10a.m. PDT.

    Agamemnon

    #104527
    zn
    Moderator

    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    No huge surprises on #Rams cuts, although I’m slightly surprised that CB Kevin Peterson got cut and that they will go into season (as of now) with just three RB’s after cutting both John Kelly and Justin Davis

    ==

    Waived, No Recall:

    Allen, Dakota (LB – Texas Tech)
    Brewer, Chandler (T – Middle Tennessee)
    Copeland, Marquise (DT – Cincinnati)
    Davis, Justin (RB – Southern California)
    Deayon, Donte (DB – Boise State)
    Durham, Landis (DE – Texas A&M)
    Franklin, John (DE – Stephen F. Austin)
    Hodge, Khadarel (WR – Prairie View)
    Kelly, John (RB – Tennessee)
    Kolone, Jeremiah (G – San Jose State)
    Parker, Steven (DB – Oklahoma)
    Peterson, Kevin (DB – Oklahoma State)
    Wolford, John (QB – Wake Forest)

    Waived, Injured:

    Bachman, Alex (WR – Wake Forest)
    Carraway, Josh (LB – Texas Christian)
    Hatfield, Dominique (DB – Utah)
    Young, Trevon (LB – Louisville)

    Reserve/Injured:

    Kiser, Micah (LB – Virginia)

    #104528
    Eternal Ramnation
    Participant

    So they’re keeping Webster and Natson?

    #104531
    zn
    Moderator

    So they’re keeping Webster and Natson?

    Who knows. They’re not done. For example Neary is still listed on the roster.

    #104533
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    So they’re keeping Webster and Natson?

    Who knows. They’re not done. For example Neary is still listed on the roster.

    Neary does not count against the roster until he comes off Suspension. Then he has to get cut or they cut someone else.

    Agamemnon

    #104534
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    I am surprised they cut Franklin Myers. Surprised the kept Natson.

    Agamemnon

    #104535
    zn
    Moderator

    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    For anyone who thinks the preseason is meaningless, you might want to check with guys like Nsimba Webster and Natrez Patrick, whose stock with the #Rams rose each time they stepped on the field in games and made plays.

    I wouldn’t be so quick to edit Dakota out of the #Rams picture, although they’re beholden to the waiver wire on that one (and plenty of others) B: Never underestimate how much special teams play into some of these decisions.

    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    College free agents who made the #LARams’ initial 53-man roster:

    LB Natrez Patrick
    LB Troy Reeder
    WR Nsimba Webster

    ==

    #104536
    PA Ram
    Participant

    Yeah I don’t get keeping Natsun. Maybe they just like the guy. I also was surprised by Myers and Peterson and Allen. And I have to say that Henderson did not impress me. I would have rather kept Kelly.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #104537
    zn
    Moderator

    #104538
    zn
    Moderator

    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    Unless he gets claimed, [Wolford] will be back with the #Rams on the practice squad by 10 am tomorrow

    The return of Fox, the fact that Smart really transformed himself, and JFM not taking that next “step” conspired against him.

    #104539
    zn
    Moderator

    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    As Sean McVay said today, roster is far from finalized based on direction regular season takes with injuries, etc. Key word is “initial.”

    Lindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
    Rams go with three RBs: Todd Gurley, Malcolm Brown and Darrell Henderson. Les Snead was vague with details, but said, “We have a couple things that could explain that a little later down the road.”

    Roster move I didn’t see coming for Rams — 7 WRs. Thought KhaDarel Hodge would be a casualty to 6 WRs (He was), didn’t see them keeping Webster despite a nice preseason: Brandin Cooks, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds, Michael Thomas, JoJo Natson, Nsimba Webster.

    J.B. Long@JB_Long
    D. Allen
    J. Franklin
    K. Hodge
    J. Kelly
    S. Parker
    J. Wolford
    …among the notable cuts. Hope to see as many as possible on P.S.

    Congratulations to N. Webster, N. Patrick among others.

    Gary Klein@LATimesklein
    Webster joins WR Cooper Kupp, LB Samson Ebukam and suspended OL Aaron Neary as Eastern Washington products with the Rams. “Eastern Washington, the pipeline to the Rams,” Sean McVay said.

    #104540
    zn
    Moderator

    https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2019/8/31/20842483/2019-los-angeles-rams-official-53-man-roster-released

    QB (2)
    Jared Goff
    Blake Bortles

    RB (3)
    Todd Gurley
    Malcolm Brown
    Darrell Henderson

    WR (7)
    Brandin Cooks
    Cooper Kupp
    Josh Reynolds
    Mike Thomas
    Robert Woods
    Nsimba Webster
    JoJo Natson

    TE/FB (3)
    Gerald Everett
    Tyler Higbee
    Johnny Mundt

    OL (8)
    Brian Allen
    Austin Blythe
    Jamil Demby
    Rob Havenstein
    Joseph Noteboom
    Andrew Whitworth
    David Edwards
    Bobby Evans

    DL (6)
    Michael Brockers
    Aaron Donald*
    Sebastian Joseph-Day
    Tanzel Smart
    Greg Gaines
    Morgan Fox

    OLB/EDGE (5)
    Samson Ebukam
    Dante Fowler Jr
    Natrez Patrick
    Ogbonnia Okoronkwo
    Clay Matthews

    ILB (4)
    Cory Littleton
    Bryce Hager
    Travin Howard
    Troy Reeder

    CB (6)
    Troy Hill
    Marcus Peters
    Nickell Robey-Coleman
    Aqib Talib
    Darious Williams
    David Long Jr

    S (5)
    Eric Weddle
    John Johnson III
    Taylor Rapp
    Marqui Christian
    Nick Scott

    ST (3)
    Johnny Hekker
    Jake McQuaide
    Greg Zuerlein

    ** ILB Micah Kiser is on the reserved/injured list

    ** OL Aaron Neary is on the suspended list (four games)

    #104542
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    I think they are missing Justin Lawler. Anyway their numbers only add up to 52.

    Agamemnon

    #104544
    Agamemnon
    Moderator

    Agamemnon

    #104545
    zn
    Moderator

    𝒥𝒾𝓂 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓉@Jim_Everett
    What the fans don’t get to experience about a team is the locker room chemistry of teammates. Coaches will make sure that the 53 plus the practice squad guys are positive, productive, and of a team oriented mind. Talented players are released b/c they lack these key attributes.

    Rams24/7@Rams24_7
    Seems like most of the surprise cuts have to do with ST:
    Reeder over Allen
    Scott over Parker
    Williams over Peterson
    Thomas over Hodge

    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    One player to keep an eye on as someone who could push up the #Rams depth chart: ILB Travin Howard. As a Rams coach told me: “He’s a baller.”

    [Dakota Allen] was released. But the hope (for the #Rams) is he clears waivers and is added to the practice squad

    #104548
    Eternal Ramnation
    Participant

    Some head scratchers for sure the biggest being they kept Long who imo looks horrible and cut about 5 dbs that out played him by a mile the dude is just too slow.

    #104552
    zn
    Moderator

    Some head scratchers for sure the biggest being they kept Long who imo looks horrible and cut about 5 dbs that out played him by a mile the dude is just too slow.

    IMO that’s just a case of a rookie learning a new defense and thinking more than playing, while all the CBs who showed better than him had experience in the system.

    #104558
    zn
    Moderator

    Wildflecken

    JFM had a bad camp and preseason. Looked slow and indecisive. Have to wonder if he was playing through a nagging injury? Was especially bad playing the run, could not set edge, fight through block and wrap rb.

    Did you catch play in first quarter where rb got outside of him and went for a 7 yd gain when JFM should have had him near LOS? He looked very, very slow on that play

    Last season JFM swung between OLB and DE and played at a much lighter weight. He is viewed as a scheme fit DE in a traditional 4-3 base. This season they wanted him to concentrate solely at DE behind Michael and he came in much heavier to this camp than last preseason. If he was not playing through a lingering injury, the added weight may explain his lack of explosiveness.

    #104559
    zn
    Moderator

    Rams set 53-man roster, but changes are likely before opener

    Vincent Bonsignore

    https://theathletic.com/1175857/2019/08/31/rams-set-53-man-roster-but-changes-are-likely-before-opener/

    While Saturday seemed like the end game for a roster process that began months ago, it also represented the beginning of a dizzying 48-hour period that will ultimately determine the Rams’ regular-season roster.

    Yes, the Rams trimmed from 89 players to 53 ahead of the NFL’s deadline. But no, the roster they submitted won’t necessarily be the one they take to Charlotte next weekend for their season opener against the Carolina Panthers. In fact, good chance it won’t be.

    The final edition depends on whether they submit any waiver-wire claims beginning Sunday – and are awarded any of the players they put claims on – and who among the players they waived Saturday clears waivers and is eligible to be re-signed.

    “Not quite done yet,” is how Rams general manager Les Snead explained it.

    Said head coach Sean McVay: “What I’ve begun to learn over the last three years especially is, there’s some nuances, there’s some layers and a lot of that is specific to not only opening week but projecting, ‘How do you give looks? How do you balance out a lot of different things that you want to do personnel-wise in a given game plan?’ There’s a lot of factors in it.”

    That said, the bulk of the work is done. And save for tinkering that will go between now and Monday, when the Rams earnestly begin preparations for the Panthers, they have a pretty good idea who they will take to North Carolina.

    Here is a breakdown of what the roster looks like right now:

    Quarterbacks (2)
    Jared Goff, Blake Bortles

    The Rams’ regular-season quarterback room essentially was set months ago, the only real question being whether Brandon Allen and John Wolford would push for consideration on the practice squad. Both were cut, as expected, with the consensus opinion being that Wolford will be invited back to the practice squad should he clear waivers.

    Goff did not take a preseason snap for the second straight year, but based on his work during training camp and the four joint practices against the Raiders and Chargers, he appears poised to take another step forward. In Bortles, the former Jacksonville Jaguars starter, Goff finally has a backup with experience. As a result, the Rams are in a much better position to deal with an injury to Goff, a luxury they didn’t really have the last two seasons.

    Running backs (3)
    Todd Gurley, Malcolm Brown, Darrell Henderson

    Word to the wise: It would be premature to etch this group in stone, as the Rams have some balls in the air at running back. Depending on how they fall, this room could look a bit different in a few days. Chances are, they will add another running back.

    Gurley and Brown are set as the top two backs and for now, it will be Brown picking up whatever slack remains from the load-management program Gurley is on. The Rams are intent on protecting Gurley’s knee for the long haul of the 16-game schedule and, just as importantly, the postseason. It means a likely reduction of his carries and snap counts, and Brown is expected to soak them up. That said, the Rams drafted Henderson with the idea of getting him on the field as soon as possible, so expect a role that features his playmaking ability as a runner and pass-catcher. Initially, anyway, he will be a change of pace to Gurley.

    Receivers (7)
    Brandin Cooks, Robert Woods, Cooper Kupp, Josh Reynolds, Mike Thomas, JoJo Natson, Nsimba Webster

    As at a few other positions, the preseason played a big role in guiding the Rams’ decision-making at wide receiver. By not playing their starters, they gave more opportunities for Thomas to re-establish himself as a viable contributor and Webster, an undrafted free agent from Eastern Washington, to flash a varied skill set that immediately caught the Rams’ eyes. As a result, they were compelled to load up at wide receiver by keeping seven on the 53-man roster to even further lengthen one of the best groups in the NFL. Cooks, Woods and Kupp are as good as any trio in the league and Reynolds is capable of starting on just about any other team in the league. That’s as good as it gets, anywhere.

    Tight ends (3)
    Tyler Higbee, Gerald Everett, Johnny Mundt

    No big surprise here after Romello Brocker, Keenan Brown and Kendall Blanton – three rookie free agents brought in to create competition – did not distinguish themselves during training camp and the preseason. In this case, though, the status quo is not a bad deal as Higbee has grown into a reliable blocker and pass-catcher and Everett appears on the cusp of an even bigger role. In Everett’s case, his numbers thus far are more a product of how the Rams deploy and utilize him than anything he has or hasn’t done. And you get the feeling he can be a breakout candidate if they simply look his way more often. Mundt’s value is his blocking and special-teams play.

    Offensive linemen (8)
    LT Andrew Whitworth, LG Joe Noteboom, C Brian Allen, RG Austin Blythe, RT Rob Havenstein, T David Edwards, T Bobby Evans, C/G/T Jamil Demby (plus suspended G/C Aaron Neary)

    The Rams’ decision not to play first-year starters Noteboom and Allen during the preseason was a strong indication they were happy with their progress as replacements for veterans Rodger Saffold and John Sullivan, respectively. Now it’s up to the two second-year linemen to justify that faith. Their acclimation on an otherwise experienced offensive line will play a big role in shaping the Rams’ offensive fate. We can talk all we want about the progress of Goff and the electricity of Gurley and the versatility and production of Cooks, Woods and Kupp, but it all starts with the offensive line. It’s no coincidence that the Rams scoring the most points in the NFL over the last two years coincided with their offensive line grading out as one of the best in the league. The Rams sat Edwards, Demby and Evans against the Texans in the fourth preseason game, so it’s no shock they survived the final cut as the primary backups. Their lack of experience is glaring, though, and it would not be a shock if the Rams took a more experienced lineman off the waiver wire. Neary suffered a fractured ankle in Week 3 of the preseason and had been set to serve a four-game suspension to start the season.

    Defensive linemen (7)
    Aaron Donald, Michael Brockers, Sebastian Joseph-Day, Greg Gaines, Tanzel Smart, Morgan Fox, Justin Lawler

    The Rams have some flexibility here because Lawler’s foot injury could might land him on the injured-reserve list. That would open a roster spot, perhaps to be used at a different position. Had Lawler been put on IR on Saturday, he would have been declared out for the whole season. Moving forward, and depending on his recovery timeline, he could land on a less restrictive injured list and be able to return at some point this year.

    Joseph-Day appears to have held off Gaines, a rookie, for the base-defense nose tackle position alongside Donald and Brockers. But Gaines should forge a role for himself before long. Fox has played well as a rotational rusher after missing all of last year with a knee injury, a job he will carry into the regular season.

    The big surprise here is the combination of Smart re-emerging on the Rams’ radar and Fox coming back strong off his knee injury, which squeezed John Franklin-Myers off the roster. The second-year situational pass rusher played effectively last year, but he didn’t take that the necessary step forward from year one to year two and lost his roster footing as a result.

    Outside linebackers (5)
    Dante Fowler Jr., Clay Matthews III, Samson Ebukam, Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Natrez Patrick

    The addition of Matthews and the emergence of Okoronkwo and Patrick throughout the preseason leaves the Rams with the potential for a deep, versatile group of pass rushers and creates options moving forward. Okoronkwo and Patrick flashed throughout the preseason and appear to have bright futures. For now, they will wait in the wings, perhaps as eventual replacements depending on what the Rams do after this season with Fowler, who is playing on a one-year contract. As it relates to this year, Fowler, Matthews and Ebukam form an intriguing trio, and given Wade Phillips’ ability to create advantageous matchup for his pass rushers, they should be active and productive.

    Inside linebackers (4)
    Cory Littleton, Bryce Hager, Travin Howard, Troy Reeder

    Hager assumed the starting job opposite Littleton after Micah Kiser suffered a serious pectoral injury that will sideline him for the whole year. But keep an eye on Howard, whose athletic ability, power and sideline-to-sideline playmaking ability could get him on the field sooner than later. In fact, Howard could push for a starting role at some point this year. Littleton is set on the other side, and is in line for a big pay raise. The surprise here is Reeder, an undrafted free agent who kept getting better and better, both as a linebacker and special-teams ace, and eventually beat out fellow rookie Dakota Allen for a roster spot. Allen impressed the coaches and is a strong candidate to return as a practice-squad player.

    Cornerbacks (6)
    Aqib Talib, Marcus Peters, Nickell Robey-Coleman, Troy Hill, David Long Jr., Darious Williams

    The Rams knew throughout training camp they would face tough decisions at cornerback because a number of players stood out beyond the four-man base of Talib, Peters, Robey-Coleman and Hill. It made for an enviable dilemma but set up the certainty that a good player or two would get cut. Ultimately, they opted to keep Williams over Kevin Peterson, who flashed throughout camp and preseason and has a future in the NFL somewhere.

    From top to bottom, this group has as good an argument as any to be the best in the NFL, especially if Long, a rookie from Michigan, continues to get better as expected.

    Safeties (5)
    Eric Weddle, John Johnson, Taylor Rapp, Marqui Christian, Nick Scott

    Weddle and Johnson are as talented as any duo in the NFL, and Christian is one of the most underrated rotational players in the league. Rapp, a rookie from Washington, is sort of a combination of all three. Combined, they give Phillips a bunch of schematic options, ranging from the back end of the defense to the line of scrimmage. Given the package and situation, don’t be surprised to see three safeties on the field. Although Scott might not see much time as a positional player this year, the rookie is already a valued special-teams player and is expected to contribute in that area immediately.

    Special teams (3)
    P Johnny Hekker, K Greg Zuerlein, LS Jake McQuaide

    For the fourth straight year, the Rams go into the regular season with arguably the best special-teams group in the NFL.

    #104561
    zn
    Moderator

    VB: The Rams have some flexibility here because Lawler’s foot injury could might land him on the injured-reserve list. That would open a roster spot, perhaps to be used at a different position.

    Vincent Bonsignore@VinnyBonsignore
    I do not think the #Rams are completely set yet at RB

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