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  • January 20, 2023 at 3:48 pm #142678
    JackPMiller
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    Our pick is going to be at 37. I could be wrong, but I believe we will draft an Edge Rusher with that pick. I think it ends up being one of these four, Andre Carter(Army), Zach Harrison(Ohio State), BJ Ojulari(LSU), or Nolan Smith(Georgia), will be that pick.

    January 20, 2023 at 11:26 pm #142684
    zn
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    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    Rams GM Les Snead said they’re projecting themselves to have 10 draft picks this year, factoring in comp picks, though most will be on Day

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    January 21, 2023 at 12:13 am #142686
    InvaderRam
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    i’d go edge rusher or dline with that first pick. ideally. if no one worthy is available at that pick i’d maybe go secondary? or oline.

    January 23, 2023 at 3:47 pm #142717
    zn
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    Kevin Guice@CowboysFan_KG
    @dpbrugler in order what do you think are the top 3 deepest positions in the draft and other than wr what position is the least deepest?
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    Dane Brugler@dpbrugler
    1. Edge Rusher: Also toughest position to stack bc there is so much talent (and different kinds of talents). EDGE will stretch into day 3.
    2. Cornerback: Underclassmen really helped. Deep group.
    3. Tight End: I have 5 TEs in my top-50 and a few others in the top-100. Loaded!
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    Anderson is the only elite edge rusher in this class. But in terms of the deepest positions, this class is loaded in the top-100.
    January 30, 2023 at 9:47 am #142814
    InvaderRam
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    zn wrote:

    1. Edge Rusher: Also toughest position to stack bc there is so much talent (and different kinds of talents). EDGE will stretch into day 3.

     

    2. Cornerback: Underclassmen really helped. Deep group.

     

    3. Tight End: I have 5 TEs in my top-50 and a few others in the top-100. Loaded!

     

    edge rusher or corner it is then!

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by InvaderRam.
    January 30, 2023 at 10:16 am #142816
    JackPMiller
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    InvaderRam wrote:
    zn wrote:

    1. Edge Rusher: Also toughest position to stack bc there is so much talent (and different kinds of talents). EDGE will stretch into day 3. 2. Cornerback: Underclassmen really helped. Deep group. 3. Tight End: I have 5 TEs in my top-50 and a few others in the top-100. Loaded!

    edge rusher or corner it is then!

     

    My top 3 is,

    1. Edge Rusher
    2. Interior Line, someone that can play Guard & Center.
    3.  CB

    My 3 wish picks, if a miracle would happen,

    1. BJ Ojulari(LSU)
    2. Either Steve Availa(TCU), or Ricky Stromberg(Arkansas)
    3. Riley Moss(Iowa)

    Of course, those players probably won’t get to us, when we select in the 2nd, 3rd and later rounds.

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    February 7, 2023 at 8:51 am #142867
    zn
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    …

    from https://thedraftnetwork.com/sr-prospect/cody-mauch-fd65681c-4711-44c8-9796-c70fff620d52/

    Cody Mauch is an experienced college player who enters the NFL with an intriguing resume. A former walk-on tight end, Mauch transitioned to the offensive line where he quickly developed into one of the best left tackles in the country.

    Mauch is a sixth-year senior who with his experience and age should be a plug-and-play player at the next level. Mauk has good size and athleticism but lacks the requisite arm length to excel at left tackle at the next level, thus a position switch to guard is very likely. In the run game, Mauch displays excellent lateral agility and movement skills while working to the second level. He is quick enough to get across the linebacker’s face and has the agility to land on moving targets on pulls and screens. He plays with a physical temperament and looks to finish his opponent whenever given the chance.

    Mauch is more of a position and wall-off blocker who wins with angles rather than a power knock-back player who generates displacement at the point of attack. Because of this, Mauch is very likely to excel in a zone-based scheme where his mobility can shine. In the pass game, Mauch displays light feet, balance, and body control to mirror in pass protection. He gets good depth on his pass sets and has the range to handle speed rushers working his outside shoulder.

    February 26, 2023 at 4:04 pm #143064
    zn
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    February 27, 2023 at 12:17 pm #143067
    Hram
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    Trade down and get and edge, TE and CB all in the top 80!

    February 27, 2023 at 1:38 pm #143068
    Billy_T
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    The Rams built a Super Bowl winner by drafting and trading for a few elite players, surrounding them with solid complementary teammates, mostly from later rounds and UDFAs.

    Their model reset the NFL market, but as Jourdan has mentioned, their own success caused it to reset again, pretty much beyond their own ability to stay in the game. In so many words, they priced themselves out of their own revolution.

    So how will they respond this year? They still lack the cap space and the draft picks to seriously alter course, and if they trade Ramsey, that just creates another hole. I really have no idea how they’re going to make this work.

    Oh, to be in Chicago’s shoes! The first pick and something like 98 million in cap space. I’d trade down a few spots, pick up another coupla firsts and seconds, draft Jalen Carter or Will Anderson . . . and go crazy on the FA market.

    Wish the Rams had those options.

    February 27, 2023 at 1:55 pm #143069
    Zooey
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    Billy_T wrote:

    Wish the Rams had those options.

    Maybe they could have if they had gone 6-11 and 3-14 the past couple of years.

    Personally, I will take Super Bowl LVI, and proceed from there.

    February 27, 2023 at 6:28 pm #143070
    Billy_T
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    Zooey wrote:
    Billy_T wrote:

    Wish the Rams had those options.

    Maybe they could have if they had gone 6-11 and 3-14 the past couple of years. Personally, I will take Super Bowl LVI, and proceed from there.

     

    As mentioned before, I don’t think it’s an either/or thing. The Rams could have won the Super Bowl and retained more draft capital and cap space. Other teams have. Hell, the Rams did a better job of things after they won in 1999/2000. They competed for the next two years, and IMO, their strongest team was actually the 2001/2002 version.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by Billy_T.
    February 27, 2023 at 6:47 pm #143072
    Billy_T
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    In short, I’m a greedy fan. In no way am I trying to minimize the Super Bowl victory. My fandom goes back to 1966, and I was thrilled.

    I just want them to keep winning, and make the best possible decisions to make that more likely. I’m guessing that’s the case for everyone on this forum.

    March 4, 2023 at 7:21 am #143089
    zn
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    March 9, 2023 at 9:42 am #143136
    zn
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    Brandon Thorn@BrandonThornNFL
    One way to discuss OL value is ranking the starting unit 1-5 and stacking possible additions into that hierarchy. Wrote a little about that in my FA article. I really like this framework in the OL team-building process.

    March 14, 2023 at 10:24 am #143197
    Billy_T
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    Los Angeles Rams Draft Picks by Round in 2023

    Round 2, Pick 36 overall
    Round 3, Pick 69 overall
    Round 3, Pick 77
    Round 5, Pick 167 overall
    Round 5, Pick 171 overall
    Round 5, Pick 177 overall
    Round 6, Pick 182 overall
    Round 6, Pick 189 overall (from ATL)
    Round 6, Pick 191 overall (from TEN)
    Round 7, Pick 223
    Round 7, Pick 235
    Round 7, Pick 251

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    The Rams have a huge gap in the draft, between the 3rd round and the 5th round comps. Roughly 90 picks go by without the Rams having a shot.

    I’m guessing the Rams make moves to reduce that gap.

    Strange: Have been playing around with some of the NFL mock simulators, and the PFF version keeps giving them #136 (as of this morning). I’m guessing that’s supposed to be a 4th round comp. They seem to have the rest of them mostly in order.

    . . . I think they could have gotten a 4th for Floyd or Wagner, at least. It would have required patience, and a great poker face. No public declarations that they’d cut them if they couldn’t trade them, which is always a stupid poker move. But they should have been able to fill that gap. It looks like they’re out of player assets to move, and will have to trade back for more picks, if they want them. Picks for more picks, etc.

    March 14, 2023 at 11:20 am #143200
    zn
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    Billy_T wrote:

    Los Angeles Rams Draft Picks by Round in 2023 Round 2, Pick 36 overall Round 3, Pick 69 overall Round 3, Pick 77 Round 5, Pick 167 overall Round 5, Pick 171 overall Round 5, Pick 177 overall Round 6, Pick 182 overall Round 6, Pick 189 overall (from ATL) Round 6, Pick 191 overall (from TEN) Round 7, Pick 223 Round 7, Pick 235 Round 7, Pick 251 ____ /quote]

    That’s 12 picks. I thought they had 11?

    March 14, 2023 at 12:18 pm #143203
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Good catch, ZN.

    My bad.

    I think I got that (cut and paste) from cbssports after a quick duckduckgo. Looks wrong.

    Here’s the list from Ramswire:

    Round 2
    No. 36

    Round 3
    No. 69
    No. 77 (from Dolphins)

    Round 5
    No. 167*
    No. 171*
    No. 177*

    Round 6
    No. 182
    No. 189 (from Titans)
    No. 191 (from Packers)

    Round 7
    No. 223 (from Detroit)
    No. 251*

    *compensatory pick

     

     

    March 14, 2023 at 12:21 pm #143204
    Billy_T
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    Full order of Rams’ 11 picks in 2023 NFL draft

    March 20, 2023 at 11:58 pm #143261
    zn
    Moderator

    March 27, 2023 at 7:49 pm #143306
    zn
    Moderator
    Blaine Grisak@bgrisakDTR
    When it comes to the CB position in this draft class, it’s actually not a bad year for the Rams to need a CB.
    March 29, 2023 at 1:39 pm #143330
    zn
    Moderator

    March 29, 2023 at 6:31 pm #143332
    Billy_T
    Participant

    That’s a pretty good mock for the Rams. Big fan, especially, of the DJ Turner and Israel Abanikanda picks. Though after the latter’s recent Pro Day, I highly doubt he’ll last until 167.  They both make the Rams a great deal faster and more athletic.

    Rams met with Pitt RB Israel Abanikanda before outstanding pro day performance

    Ryan Fowler
    @_RyanFowler_
    Pitt RB Izzy Abanikanda met with the 49ers, Rams, and Cardinals yesterday evening, per source.

    Fresh off an outstanding Pro Day this morning where he jumped 41″ in the vert, 10’8″ in the broad, and ran mid 4.3s(u) in the 40, he’s had himself an excellent 24 hours.

    Felix Anudike-Uzomah should be a good Edge as well. Solid draft.

    Have been having fun with NFL mock draft simulators. Almost addicted at this point. :>) I like www profootballnetwork dot com and www nflmockdatabase dot com. PFF’s is now subscription only, so I don’t bother with that one anymore.

    Whenever possible, I pick DJ Turner and Israel, and that was before his Pro Day.

    The first on the list is much tougher on trades for the home team, but I still make them. As in, the algorithm is set to “decline” trades even if they meet the standards of the value chart. The second site, however, is much too generous to the home team, so I’ve been trying to force trades closer to the value chart — to be fair and all.

    My recent mocks involve a ton of trades, far more than the norm. But since it’s all just fantasy stuff, why not? I’ve had a few that, in my not so humble opinion, would set the Rams up for a dynasty!

    ;>)
    March 30, 2023 at 1:20 am #143333
    zn
    Moderator

    March 30, 2023 at 8:50 am #143334
    Billy_T
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    https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/team-mock-drafts/2023

    This is one where I refrained from the crazy good trade offers and made my own instead, going by the trade chart. Of course, I’m not really sure if NFL GMs actually use that anymore.

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    Trade Recap
    Los Angeles Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 43
    2023: Round 4, Pick 112
    New York Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 36

    Los Angeles Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 46
    2023: Round 4, Pick 135
    2023: Round 6, Pick 210
    New England Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 43 2023:
    Round 6, Pick 191

    Los Angeles Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 50
    2023: Round 5, Pick 153
    2023: Round 6, Pick 196
    Tampa Bay Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 46

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    My Selections
    50
    Drew Sanders
    LB | Arkansas LogoArkansasTRADE

    69
    Zach Harrison
    EDGE | Ohio State LogoOhio State

    77
    D.J. Turner
    CB | Michigan LogoMichigan

    112
    Colby Wooden
    DL | Auburn LogoAuburnTRADE

    135
    Israel Abanikanda
    RB | Pittsburgh LogoPittsburghTRADE

    153
    Jonathan Mingo
    WR | Mississippi LogoMississippiTRADE

    167
    Jakorian Bennett
    CB | Maryland LogoMaryland

    171
    Ricky Stromberg
    IOL | Arkansas LogoArkansas

    177
    Davis Allen
    TE | Clemson LogoClemson

    182
    Keaton Mitchell
    RB | East Carolina LogoEast Carolina

    189
    Andrei Iosivas
    WR | Princeton LogoPrinceton

    196
    Brandon Hill
    S | Pittsburgh LogoPittsburghTRADE

    210
    Chamarri Conner
    S | Virginia Tech LogoVirginia TechTRADE

    223
    Rejzohn Wright
    CB | Oregon State LogoOregon State

    251
    Lonnie Phelps
    EDGE | Kansas LogoKansas

    (I’m guessing DJ Turner won’t be there at 77. Other than that, I think it’s realistic too, except for the volume of trades.)

    March 30, 2023 at 8:53 am #143335
    Billy_T
    Participant

    The weakness of the above is probably the lack of O-line. Just a good center (Stromberg), who should start for the Rams. My other mocks usually go for at least three O-line guys. But it’s a lot tougher if I stick to the trade chart value. If the mock showers me with crazy good trade offers — which isn’t going to happen in real life — then I have an embarrassment of riches, etc.

    March 30, 2023 at 9:01 am #143336
    Billy_T
    Participant

    This is a combination of me making fair trades, and accepting a few crazy trades offered to me:

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    7 Round – 1 Team: Mock Draft
    03/30/23

    Trade Recap
    Los Angeles Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 44
    2023: Round 3, Pick 75
    2023: Round 4, Pick 110
    2023: Round 5, Pick 159
    2023: Round 7, Pick 225
    Atlanta Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 36

    Los Angeles Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 46
    2023: Round 6, Pick 184
    2023: Round 7, Pick 245
    New England Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 44

    Los Angeles Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 53
    2023: Round 2, Pick 64
    2023: Round 3, Pick 103
    Chicago Receives:
    2023: Round 2, Pick 46

    Los Angeles Receives:
    2023: Round 4, Pick 111
    2023: Round 5, Pick 140
    2023: Round 7, Pick 229
    Cleveland Receives:
    2023: Round 3, Pick 103

    My Selections
    53
    Jack Campbell
    LB | Iowa LogoIowaTRADE

    64
    Tuli Tuipulotu
    DL | USC LogoUSCTRADE

    69
    D.J. Turner
    CB | Michigan LogoMichigan

    75
    Gervon Dexter
    DL | Florida LogoFloridaTRADE

    77
    Zach Harrison
    EDGE | Ohio State LogoOhio State

    110
    J.L. Skinner
    S | Boise State LogoBoise StateTRADE

    111
    Jartavius Martin
    S | Illinois LogoIllinoisTRADE

    140
    Israel Abanikanda
    RB | Pittsburgh LogoPittsburghTRADE

    159
    Jonathan Mingo
    WR | Mississippi LogoMississippiTRADE

    167
    Braeden Daniels
    IOL | Utah LogoUtah

    171
    Ricky Stromberg
    IOL | Arkansas LogoArkansas

    177
    Daniel Scott
    S | California LogoCalifornia

    182
    Keaton Mitchell
    RB | East Carolina LogoEast Carolina

    184
    Hunter Luepke
    RB | North Dakota State LogoNorth Dakota StateTRADE

    189
    Cory Trice
    CB | Purdue LogoPurdue

    191
    Bryce Ford-Wheaton
    WR | West Virginia LogoWest Virginia

    223
    Asim Richards
    IOL | North Carolina LogoNorth Carolina

    225
    Juice Scruggs
    IOL | Penn State LogoPenn StateTRADE

    229
    Anthony Bradford
    IOL | LSU LogoLSUTRADE

    245
    Yasir Abdullah
    LB | Louisville LogoLouisvilleTRADE

    251
    Bryce Baringer
    P | Michigan State LogoMichigan State

    March 30, 2023 at 9:24 am #143338
    Billy_T
    Participant

    The second one is pure fantasy, primarily cuz the Rams would never get all of  those trades, even if they wanted to make them. It’s a lot easier to make a huge number of them online. I’m guessing it’s extremely difficult to make volume trades happen as the draft progresses. But it’s a great draft, and would reset the entire team and make them instantly competitive.

    I see at least 11 new starters, and nearly all the draftees with the potential for rookie snaps. I think Mingo will be good enough at receiver to allow the Rams to trade Jefferson, if they want to. Great size and athleticism. A bigger Deebo Samuels. Abanikanda makes Akers expendable. Bigger and much faster. So I’d start Israel, and use Luepke (FB) for short yardage, and Mitchell as the speedy change of pace back. Really hoping the Rams draft Mitchell. Extremely quick and fast, he’d be a dynamic home-run threat for McVay.

    The O-line gets new starters, Stromberg, Daniels, and Bradford (or Richards). Juice gives them a solid backup at center.

    Two new starters each at safety, corner, edge, punter. One new starter at DT and linebacker. Solid rotational edge, corner, and receiver.

    Normally, if a team gets three or four starters, and keeps five or six players from a draft, it’s a good one. This one likely nails all but a couple.

    March 30, 2023 at 9:27 am #143340
    zn
    Moderator
    Billy_T wrote:

    The weakness of the above is probably the lack of O-line. Just a good center (Stromberg), who should start for the Rams. My other mocks usually go for at least three O-line guys. But it’s a lot tougher if I stick to the trade chart value. If the mock showers me with crazy good trade offers — which isn’t going to happen in real life — then I have an embarrassment of riches, etc.

    I am one of those who thinks that they don’t need OL this draft though they will probably take 1 or 2. They have so many players coming back from injury on the OL, they are in a good position. Odds are you don’t have injury situations like last year that often–meaning that they can assume that the group will be relatively healthier. In that bunch they have a number of players who showed something even though they didn’t get than many games. I am not even sure they need a center. If Allen can’t go Shelton was fine and it’s no accident he’s one of the few players they re-signed.

    I think this off-season showed the draft will probably be defensive. That also lines up with the strengths of this draft, ie. meaning positions where the draft is deepest.

    March 30, 2023 at 9:35 am #143341
    Billy_T
    Participant
    Billy_T wrote:

    The weakness of the above is probably the lack of O-line. Just a good center (Stromberg), who should start for the Rams. My other mocks usually go for at least three O-line guys. But it’s a lot tougher if I stick to the trade chart value. If the mock showers me with crazy good trade offers — which isn’t going to happen in real life — then I have an embarrassment of riches, etc.

    I am one of those who thinks that they don’t need OL this draft though they will probably take 1 or 2. They have so many players coming back from injury on the OL, they are in a good position. Odds are you don’t have injury situations like last year that often–meaning that they can assume that the group will be relatively healthier. In that bunch they have a number of players who showed something even though they didn’t get than many games. I am not even sure they need a center. If Allen can’t go Shelton was fine and it’s no accident he’s one of the few players they re-signed.

    I can see that view. But the O-line draft is really loaded this year, even late into the draft. The Rams have the opportunity to get more athletic there, and at least find better depth. But in the real world, they probably have other priorities, at least early.

    I’d rather they get a couple of edges and two corners early, and go Defense. They need safeties too. But I’d be shocked if McSnead avoid the Offense. Likely a receiver or two. Abanikanda (RB), as mentioned (and Mitchell) would be great picks, IMO.

     

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