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  • #83739
    PA Ram
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    I have a news station on a lot as I’m sitting around the house or moving about doing things. And it’s all junk.

    I just can’t understand why the news can’t serve a true public service–explaining what new legislation or proposed policies truly mean to someone’s everyday life. Instead it’s show after show about porn stars or the last election or the never ending Russia investigation.

    Meanwhile regulations are torn up, laws are passed, policy is made–and no one knows anything about it.

    “News” is about ratings–not the public good.

    Do I really need to know about Trump’s latest 2 am tweet about Jeff Sessions incompetence over what effect a spiraling deficit over corporate tax cuts may have on future social safety programs?

    Pathetic.

    This is why I love to listen to things like “The Majority Report”. They cover things that are never mentioned in the news and in a smart and informative way.

    I should be able to get this from any news show but that’s not possible.

    And it’s sad.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #83741
    zn
    Moderator

    Do you have this link? IMO all lefties should: http://buzzflash.com/

    #83743
    PA Ram
    Participant

    Thanks, zn.

    Bookmarked.

    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick

    #83750
    zn
    Moderator

    Thanks, zn.

    Bookmarked.

    Cause I will tell you this. I feel your pain. So much so that I have not watched network, cable, or local news for over a decade. Not a lick of it. Not even a little bit. And news radio never gets near me. I couldn’t even name the local news radio stations and to find them I would have to go through the whole dial from scratch. I don’t read newspapers either, with rare exceptions when I am eating breakfast in a diner before work and just killing time. And usually I am just fine in a diner without doing that, so that only happens 2-3 times a year.

    How do I stay informed then? First, my facebook page is full of different “friends” who like to post articles, and usually it’s not the mainstream press. I use this forum for the same reason. Plus I browse sites like the one I linked for you, and will even browse headlines on yahoo news feed, though that’s much iffier. I will also browse the jokesters like John Oliver etc. Those things combined do me just fine.

    I dislike mainstream news so much that I just simply will have nothing to do with it. My reasons are probably pretty much the same reasons you dislike it. My own personal solution is to completely ignore it, and I really do mean pretty much completely.

    #83754
    wv
    Participant

    “News” is about ratings–not the public good.

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    I dont even like the ‘word’ News. I think its very misleading. I dont even like to use it.

    Cuz I think the word ‘news’ suggests a certain neutrality or objectivity that has never really existed in corporate-news.

    At any rate, whatever we call ‘it’ and whatever ‘it’ is….Its getting worse. As the number of outlets are gobbled up by fewer and fewer of the mega-corpse….

    But you know all this.

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    “Our picture of the world is provided by those that profit from our ignorance.” Gavin Gee

    #83765
    JackPMiller
    Participant

    I only follow the local news. That is it. I don’t trust any of the big news stations, like Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, etc. They are one sided, and play to an audience. Of course that equals money.

    #83786
    wv
    Participant

    FAIR on the MSM’s ‘news’ on Syria, for one example:http://fair.org/home/media-erase-us-role-in-syrias-misery-call-for-us-to-inflict-more-misery/

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    #83788
    wv
    Participant

    from the link:
    “… MSNBC’s belated and subdued news interest was perhaps the most striking. As FAIR (3/2/18) has pointed out, the “liberal” cable network’s high-profile primetime hosts completely ignored the strike well into its second week…..”

    #83805
    Zooey
    Participant

    The closest I get to mainstream TV news is that I tune in to the PBS Newshour on Friday nights about 3 or 4 times a year to watch the Mark Shields/David Brooks commentary. Oh, and sometimes the round table on the Sunday morning Stephanopolous show. Just to hear the mainstream op-ed perspective after a week of significant domestic political news. I guess I’m just curious as to what the “pulse” of the nation is like sometimes.

    I don’t think I ever tune in to get “news” from TV.

    #83808
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    I listen to NPR while I’m at work. That’s the only mainstream news I listen to. I’m not saying it’s measurably better than any other mainstream news outlet, but like Zooey, I listen to it to see what events the general public is being exposed to.

    I get most of my news from just reading around the internet.

    #83813
    wv
    Participant

    I listen to NPR while I’m at work. That’s the only mainstream news I listen to. I’m not saying it’s measurably better than any other mainstream news outlet, but like Zooey, I listen to it to see what events the general public is being exposed to.

    I get most of my news from just reading around the internet.

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    No need for NPR or any other site.

    Just read my posts, as if i were GOD, and always think to yourself, “here’s WV-Ram with THE NEWS.”

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    #83816
    Zooey
    Participant

    I listen to NPR while I’m at work. That’s the only mainstream news I listen to. I’m not saying it’s measurably better than any other mainstream news outlet, but like Zooey, I listen to it to see what events the general public is being exposed to.

    I get most of my news from just reading around the internet.

    I sometimes listen to NPR in the car – 15 minute commute to work. But I find them somewhat tedious. I mean…I guess I’m glad that someone is peeling back the cover of the folk music and tamale festival in Austin…but I really don’t care. For actual news, you have to turn it on at just the right time, and even at their best, their comparatively in-depth coverage is still shallow.

    I like reading.

    I seem to always have about 3 or 4 tabs open in my browser of articles I want to read when I get the time.

    #83822
    wv
    Participant

    I sometimes listen to NPR in the car – 15 minute commute to work. But I find them somewhat tedious. I mean…I guess I’m glad that someone is peeling back the cover of the folk music and tamale festival in Austin…but I really don’t care. .

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    #83825
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    Just read my posts, as if i were GOD, and always think to yourself, “here’s WV-Ram with THE NEWS.”

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    Wow. Talk about a Massey complex…

    #83830
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Like everyone here, I think the MSM is pretty lame. But I read it, watch it, listen to it, along with a lot of stuff outside the MSM.

    Perhaps the main reason for that is that I want to know what they’re actually saying, and not what people are sayin’ they’re sayin’. I want to know for myself, first hand.

    Over time, by doing this, I’ve discovered that a lot of the criticism about the media, left, right and center, falls into the same traps, ironically, that beset the MSM: lack of context, absurd glibness, an unsaid assumption of being smarter than everyone else, and not needing to really make a solid case for this or that. But perhaps the worst thing they do, like the MSM, is to use the part for the whole. That bugs me — a lot. A person or two, a show or two, isn’t a zeitgeist, etc. A person or two, a show or two, doesn’t give the critic license to imply or state straight up that “they all do X, Y or Z.”

    Another observation: The next president, Dem or Republican, is gonna catch hell. I have a strong feeling that Trump has helped the media take itself seriously again, perhaps too seriously. They played lapdog through several administrations, and largely because Trump went after them viciously, they finally woke up out of their lapdogmatic slumber.

    The next occupant of the White House is gonna get the full Trump treatment, especially if he or she is a Dem. The MSM are gonna do everything they can to avoid being accused of “bias” and double standards.

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