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    The NFL has an offensive line crisis

    By Adam Kilgore

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/09/13/the-nfl-has-an-offensive-line-crisis/?utm_term=.f1afa7a6313a

    Two years ago, an NFL executive surveyed the college landscape and offered an associate in the industry some friendly advice. “You better hit on an offensive lineman now,” the executive told his pal, because he could see the supply of capable blockers dwindling.

    The words seem prophetic after the dismal product the NFL rendered in Week 1. The league has for years fretted over a scarcity of capable quarterbacks, and starting appearances from the likes of Tom Savage and Scott Tolzien on Sunday highlighted the notion there are more NFL teams than competent professional quarterbacks in existence.

    But an equally alarming problem surfaced as offenses reached new levels of putridity. It was not only the men throwing the ball, but also the men charged with protecting them. The NFL is amid an offensive line crisis, and the talent drain at the position is damaging the quality on the field in even uglier fashion than poor quarterbacking.

    “I believe that the lineman shortage is a bigger problem,” said the executive, who requested anonymity to speak candidly. “I don’t know if I can compare the two. They’re both not real good.”

    “I hope the play gets better as the year goes on,” said former NFL lineman Geoff Schwartz, now a SiriusXM NFL Radio analyst. “There’s some young offensive lines that need to get better. There is an issue with a lack of just good offensive linemen in the NFL.”

    In April’s draft, the NFL regarded the latest crop of linemen and decided, “No, thanks.” Only two offensive linemen — tackles Garett Bolles and Ryan Ramczyk — were taken in the first round. None was taken until the Denver Broncos grabbed Bolles with the 20th pick, the latest in modern NFL history the draft had gone without an offensive lineman being taken.

    “There’s not much offensive line talent coming into the league,” the executive said. “What were the top offensive linemen, they’re not there.”

    Those within the league believe the dearth of serviceable blockers derives from two primary factors: Offensive linemen enter the NFL less prepared than ever, and they have less opportunity to improve once they’re in the league.

    The college spread offense, a frequent object of scorn among NFL evaluators, plays a major role. Most offensive linemen play in systems reliant on screens, quick passes and misdirection, which means they enter the NFL accustomed to rarely hitting beyond their initial block or having had to thwart a pass rusher’s secondary moves.

    “The tempo is so fast in college now that the techniques just aren’t taught like they used to be,” Schwartz said. “Now it’s about guys trying to get back to the line of scrimmage and not finish. The spread offenses are nothing like the offenses you run in the NFL, so guys come in just not as prepared.”

    From the youth level through college, players participate year-round in noncontact, seven-on-seven leagues and clinics for quarterbacks and skill players. The same opportunities do not exist for offensive linemen, at least in any meaningful way.

    “There’s a lot of college offensive linemen that have never been in a three-point stance,” the executive said. “The pro game is different. I get football is football. There’s a lot more emphasis on different techniques and fundamentals in college.”

    Under the new collective bargaining agreement, teams have fewer offseason practices and hit at full speed less often when they do practice. The decrease of full-speed offseason practicing hurts offensive lines more than any other unit, especially in comparison with defensive linemen.

    “You have to learn how to block,” the executive said. “Getting after a passer, getting up field, it doesn’t have to be as refined as offensive line play. There is far less time to develop skills that can only be developed through contact.”

    The rash of awful offensive line play may improve as lines get more repetitions together at game speed. But horrific offensive line play led to a hideous Week 1.

    Six teams failed to crack double-digit points and another, the New York Jets, got 12 but didn’t score a touchdown. As Gregg Rosenthal noted at NFL.com, 14 offenses gained fewer than 300 yards in Week 1, accounting for more than 46 percent of the teams who played. That didn’t occur with such frequency in any week last year, and only 22 percent of offenses gained fewer than 300 yards in the previous three Week 1s. Last year, only the Rams averaged fewer than 300 yards for the season.

    A lack of offensive production isn’t an inherent problem. The problem is the nature of how offenses have bogged down. It is one thing for a stout defense to thwart passable offensive execution. It is another when defensive lines are shoving offensive linemen five yards into the backfield and ruining any semblance of offensive play design. It makes games painful to watch — it stops looking like football and starts looking like survival. In too many games, possessions unfolded as spasms of panic capped with a punt.

    “The overall product itself is not of the quality I’m used to seeing, that I grew up watching,” Seattle wide receiver Doug Baldwin said in an interview on SiriusXM. “As far as a solution, I have no idea. I’m interested to see what happens, because I do believe a quality drop-off has happened.”

    The marquee games Sunday were Packers-Seahawks and Cowboys-Giants. In both, an inept offensive line prevented any attempt to commit football. Russell Wilson ran for his life behind Seattle’s overwhelmed blockers, and Eli Manning chucked desperate, short passes behind a blue-and-gray sieve.

    Atrocious offensive line play, in many ways, harms the viewing experience more than terrible quarterback play. A cruddy quarterback behind an adequate line will make bad decisions and poor throws and fail to score points, but those mistakes occur within the flow of an otherwise pleasant game. An adequate quarterback behind a horrible line doesn’t even have the chance to initiate what fans would recognize as football. He’s just engulfed by chaos.

    Look at Wilson in this screenshot. It looks less like an NFL game than kids screwing around in the backyard.

    The Seahawks were not alone. According to Pro Football Focus, 10 teams received a positive grade on passing blocking and 11 were above zero in run blocking. In game after game, an offensive line gave its offense no chance.

    The drop in quality line play has already reshaped NFL offenses, in subtle fashion. Last year, quarterbacks averaged 8.25 yards per throw in the air, the shortest average pass in the past decade, at least. Running backs and slot receivers are catching more passes than at any point in recent memory. Quarterbacks and coordinators have little choice — with less time to throw, dump-offs and checkdowns are the best, safest options.

    The NFL is fundamentally changing, for the worse. It could use more and better quarterbacks. It more desperately needs better linemen to protect them, to give them a chance and to make the sport palatable.

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    Does NFL have offensive line problem?

    By Bucky Brooks

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000845643/article/does-nfl-have-offensive-line-problem-plus-jared-goffs-growth

    “Where are the good offensive linemen?”

    When a veteran scout asked me that question at a college game a couple weeks ago, I didn’t give it much thought at the time. I simply thought it was a crusty, old scout complaining about a position group that is undervalued in the public sector but viewed in high regard on the scouting trail. While quarterbacks, pass catchers and running backs dominate the conversation in fantasy football drafts, general managers and scouts around the league still cite offensive tackle — particularly left tackle — as one of the core positions of a championship-caliber squad in real football.

    In a league governed by quarterback play, team builders believe protecting the passer is tantamount to success.

    “It never changes,” an AFC team’s college scouting director told me. “Everything is built around the quarterback and the passing game. On offense, you’re always trying to find a QB1 — and when you get him, it’s all about keeping him protected and upright in the pocket. … With defenses loading up on pass rushers at defensive end and defensive tackle, you have to keep the edges protected and find a way to stop the leakage on the inside.

    “In a perfect world, you would have a pair of offensive tackles that can hold their own in pass protection and find a way to piecemeal the interior. … It’s hard to find five great offensive linemen, but if you can get the right guys in the right spots, you can win a lot of games.”

    To that last point, it is easy to see why the Cowboys, Steelers and Raiders field explosive offenses, given that all currently boast sensational lines. Each unit features elite athletes on the edges and nasty, nimble competitors on the inside. Although those teams used different methods to build their respective fronts, the common denominator is the overall athleticism, toughness and physicality that jumps off the screen when you watch them play.

    The Cowboys and Steelers possess homegrown units built through astute drafting in successive years. Dallas spent three first-round picks in four years on LT Tyron Smith, C Travis Frederick and RG Zack Martin — and then added RT La’el Collins as an undrafted free agent after a unique and unfortunate circumstances torpedoed the likely first-rounder’s stock. Meanwhile, in one three-year span, the Steelers used a pair of first-round picks on interior blockers (C Maurkice Pouncey and RG David DeCastro) and added RT Marcus Gilbert with a second-round selection. LG Ramon Foster came aboard after going undrafted, while LT Alejandro Villanueva joined Pittsburgh as an unheralded free-agent signee.

    On the other hand, the Raiders signed four of their five starting offensive linemen in free agency: LT Donald Penn, LG Kelechi Osemele, C Rodney Hudson and RT Marshall Newhouse. RG Gabe Jackson, Oakland’s third-round pick in a 2014 haul that also included Khalil Mack and Derek Carr, is the one homegrown stud. The Raiders’ front line is the perfect example of a pro department assembling a solid cast of blockers with complementary skills through alternative means.

    That’s why I don’t necessarily agree the sentiment that there is a dire lack of quality offensive linemen available. Coaches and scouts with a clear understanding of what they want to play at the position are able to identify proper fits in the draft and free agency. Whether it’s the agile edge blockers with a combination of size, length and body control or the rugged interior blockers with a nasty disposition, the best evaluators are still finding their guys. And that starts with a good plan.

    I worked as a scout in Seattle under former Redskins GM Scot McCloughan when he was the Seahawks’ director of college scouting in the early 2000s. I remember him giving me specific instructions when scouting each position. McCloughan told me that offensive tackles needed to have exceptional size, arm length, quickness and flexibility to match the premier pass rushers in the game. He advised me to look for offensive guards with outstanding strength and power. He wanted interior blockers to be able to move defenders off the ball in the running game while also showing the balance and body control to anchor against hard-charging pass rushers. With centers, it was all about their football intelligence and consistency. McCloughan believed they could overcome athletic limitations with their awareness and overall understanding of blocking concepts.

    But it’s more than identifying the right kind of guys at each spot — it’s also finding a way to develop them in challenging times. The collective bargaining agreement signed in 2011 severely reduced the amount of practice time teams can have with their players. Also, full-contact practices are quite limited. With other restrictions spelled out in the agreement to limit team drills and one-on-one periods in the offseason program, the NFL doesn’t offer as many opportunities to fully cultivate a young player’s skills as it used to.

    “You don’t have enough time to develop guys on the field,” a veteran offensive line coach who’s worked at all levels of the game told me. “Playing on the offensive line requires a lot of reps and you simply don’t have enough opportunities to teach them through live contact. Plus, the padded-practice limitations during the regular season make it harder to prepare young players to get ready for the pro game.”

    This is something Arizona Cardinals head coach Bruce Arians pointed to at the 2016 Annual League Meeting when asked to address the declining of offensive lines around the league.

    “Yeah, because they don’t get to practice,” Arians told reporters. “Offensive linemen and defensive linemen can’t get better in shorts. And they’re prohibited from going one-on-one. That’s all they do for a living. So of course they’re going to get worse, because we can’t practice. And then only one practice a day in training camp, only one practice a day during the week up until, what, about Week 14? So, it’s extremely hard to get young offensive linemen better. Because they don’t ever get to practice football. They’re not getting any better practicing soccer.

    “Since we’ve made the rule changes (in 2011), the quality of the football is going way down.”

    In addition to this gripe among NFL coaches and scouts, there has also been plenty of finger-pointing at the college game for failing to supply the NFL with plug-and-play O-linemen. Pro evaluators point to the spread offense as one of the detrimental factors.

    “You rarely see offensive linemen in three-point stances,” an NFC scout said to me. “They are always in a two-point stance (in the spread) and they spend most of the game position blocking pass rushers on quick throws. You rarely see them fire off the ball in the run game or execute some of the tasks we will ask them to do at the NFL level.

    “It makes the evaluation harder because you’re projecting so much when grading offensive linemen.”

    After hearing so much complaining from NFL folks about the quality of line play at lower levels, I reached out to a college coach — who also has experience coaching at the high school level, as well as a brief stint in the CFL — to get his gauge on why it’s been so difficult for NFL coaches to find and develop offensive linemen.

    “We have the same challenges as pro coaches,” the college assistant coach told me. “We don’t have a lot of time with the kids and you’re trying to teach them technique and scheme on the run. If they’re talented and have to play early in their careers, we’re trying to get them up to speed on the concepts before we can get the details of footwork and hand placement.

    “Granted, we don’t carry as many protections as pro teams, but it’s still tough for a high school kid with limited experience or exposure to grasp high-level concepts. We try to rep it as much as possible, but it’s hard to get them ready for the NFL when I’m struggling to get them ready to play college ball.”

    I think that is an important point to remember: College coaches shouldn’t be expected to get their players ready for the next level. The college game is vastly different than the NFL, and pro coaches need to consult their old high school/college coaching manuals to see how they can build functional offensive linemen and effective units.

    “They should steal a page from our book and have extra periods for the developmental guys,” the college assistant said. “We have scout team scrimmages and extra individual periods for our young guys to help them hone their skills. If they can add 15 minutes of individualized time for their bottom-of-the-roster players or practice-squad guys, they will see their O-Line improve quickly.”

    Another way to improve O-line play is to recruit better athletes to play up front. This is something that the Seattle Seahawks have attempted to do under Tom Cable in recent years with the team converting defensive linemen to blockers. The veteran coach successfully nurtured J.R. Sweezy into a top-notch offensive guard after the ex-N.C. State standout entered the league as a lightly regarded defensive tackle prospect taken in the seventh round. With the veteran assistant also having enjoyed success at the collegiate level with conversions (see: Jeremy Newberry and Tarik Glenn during Cable’s time at Cal), I can’t knock the Seahawks for attempting to flip guys from other positions to the offensive line. Sure, the daring moves elicit eye rolls and snickers from traditionalists, but the prospect of turning an undrafted free agent into a quality starter is a potential game changer for teams with great teachers at the position.

    OK, yes: The Seahawks’ offensive line has struggled to keep Russell Wilson upright in the pocket the past few seasons. (Losing Sweezy to a lucrative free-agent deal with the Buccaneers didn’t help.) But that’s missing the larger point here. I believe the conversion model is one that should be considered by others — but with a twist. Instead of focusing on defensive linemen moving over to offense, teams should identify oversized tight ends with the potential to transition to offensive tackle. Tight ends are superior athletes and they’re familiar with the responsibilities in the running game. Not to mention, they have been exposed to blocking edge rushers in one-on-one matchups, which gives them a chance to master the skills in time. Considering how many college teams execute this conversion with recruits and young players, I would steal a page from their playbook to upgrade one of the league’s marquee positions.

    “If I had to do a conversion, I would rather move a tight end to offensive tackle because it isn’t foreign to him,” the college assistant told me. “You have to bulk them up, clean up their technique and flip their mentality from being a pass catcher to blocker, but you could uncover a few good players if they are willing to fully buy in.”

    In fact, there are already some notable success stories on this front. Jason Peters, Alejandro Villanueva, Garry Gilliam and Nate Solder all successfully transitioned from tight end to offensive tackle as pros or during the later stages in college, so the blueprint is there.

    In this pass-happy league, it’s high time for teams to consider every option to build a sustainable fortress around the quarterback.

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    Giants aren’t the only team with offensive line problems; tackling why it’s become a league issue

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/bob-glauber/giants-aren-t-the-only-team-with-offensive-line-problems-tackling-why-it-s-become-a-league-issue-1.14193459

    It is a story line the Giants wish would fade into the background, an issue dating to last season that has been a central focus of the team’s offensive struggles and one that again factored into the Giants’ miserable showing in a 19-3 loss to the Cowboys in the opener last Sunday night.
    Unfortunately for Ben McAdoo, Eli Manning and the Giants’ touchdown-challenged offense, the problem is not going away. And if this season turns into one colossal disappointment, the team’s problems along the offensive line surely will be a central cause for blame.

    The Giants are far from alone in their struggles along the line. In fact, poor offensive line play has become a mini-crisis of sorts in a league whose practice rules are set up in such a way as to impede the development of the guys in the trenches. Choreographing the movements of five players on each and every offensive snap is one of the most challenging tasks for any team, and several factors in recent years have led to problems in getting the most out of today’s NFL blockers.
    Start with the practice rules. As part of the league’s 2011 collective bargaining agreement, there are far fewer offseason practices and far greater limits on contact drills, both in and out of season. Padded practices have been greatly reduced during the season and in training camp (there are no more two-a-day practices, for instance), and one-on-one drills are not permitted throughout the offseason training period. Those limitations have greatly impacted coaches’ ability to get the most out of offensive linemen, and there has been a direct carryover into the regular season for many teams.
    “They threw out the baby with the bathwater, relative to player development,” Bill Polian, the Hall of Fame former general manager of the Bills, Panthers and Colts, said of the new CBA rules. “It’s self-defeating. I know it’s bargained collectively, and I know why the owners did it, but it’s not helping player development. The owners got the monetary concessions they were looking for and these practice concessions, particularly in the offseason, were a small price to pay for that.”
    But Polian is convinced the quality of line play — and thus the quality of offensive football — has been compromised because linemen simply don’t get enough repetitions to hone their skills.
    “When you look around the league, you can count on the fingers of one hand the teams that have two good tackles, and you can count on both your hands the teams that don’t have any,” said Polian, an NFL analyst for ESPN.
    “Offensive linemen can be developed. The good [assistant] coaches like Dante Scarnecchia [of the Patriots], [former longtime line coach] Howard Mudd, Bill Callahan [of the Redskins] do it.

    “Offensive line is a technique position,” he said. “If you can’t rep that enough, you’re not going to be as good. It’s just that simple. I know 99.9 percent of the people will say, ‘Who cares?’ They just want to see performance on the field. But if you want to go beyond that and see why offenses struggle, there are reasons this is happening.”
    Former NFL guard Brian Baldinger suggests there’s only one way for linemen to get better: by practicing more.
    “Reps, it’s everything,” he said. “The more reps you get, the more prepared you’re going to be. Look, I understand the push for player safety, I get it. But the only way to become a better right guard is to play right guard. You can’t do it by hitting bags in shorts. You can do all the walk-throughs you want and hit the sleds all you want, but until you block people, you’re not going to get better.”
    Baldinger is troubled by what he saw in the Giants’ opener, especially with the play of tackles Ereck Flowers and Bobby Hart.
    “I’d be concerned,” he said. “You could tell Eli was skittish the other night. He can look like that sometimes if he doesn’t feel like the [linemen] are doing their jobs. They couldn’t get the ball down the field. They’re not playing well as a group up front, and there are technique issues. Ereck is such a good athlete, he can figure out ways to stay in front of his man, but that’s not the type of technique you win with long-term. You’re going to get hurt with that.”
    Baldinger suggested Manning’s lack of mobility also is a potential red flag.
    “If you look at it in the context of the division, the other three quarterbacks are mobile, to one degree or another,” said Baldinger, an NFL Network analyst. “[Carson] Wentz [in Philadelphia] and Dak [Prescott in Dallas] are tremendously mobile. Kirk Cousins [in Washington] is mobile enough. That forgives a lot of sins when you can make up for a missed block. Eli obviously can’t do that, so it exacerbates the problem.”
    Another factor in offensive line play: Most linemen coming into the league aren’t used to the more conventional pro-style game after playing in the spread offense in college, and often in high school.
    “There are guys that play their entire college career and never get into a three-point stance,” Baldinger said. “So you come to the NFL, and it’s tough. For the most part with spread offenses, guys are in two-point stances [bent at the knees and not putting a hand on the ground] and they’ve never had to fire out. So you don’t have any idea about short-yardage situations, goal line, how to block those.”

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    The Trouble with NFL Offensive Linemen: Bad Starts and Worse Finishes

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/12/trouble-nfl-offensive-linemen-new-york-giants-seattle-seahawks-week-1-no-touchdowns

    The Giants and Seahawks both have Super Bowl-winning quarterbacks, excellent defenses and playmakers on offense. And both have high expectations for this season. But neither team could figure out a way to muster a touchdown on Sunday.

    Even though it’s just Week 1, it seems fair to ask: Can you really be a contender without a good offensive line?

    The epidemic of poor offensive line play is something we are hearing more and more about across the NFL. Some blame the practice rules imposed by the 2011 CBA, which limit both offseason practice time and the number of padded practices in which linemen can get in full-contact reps. Others point to the rise of spread offenses in college, where linemen often aren’t asked to finish blocks or even put their hand in the dirt in a three-point stance.

    “That’s a question for the offseason,” Giants coach Ben McAdoo said on Monday, less than 24 hours after his team’s 19-3 season-opening loss to the Cowboys. “We need to find a way to win a ballgame this week and find a way to get better up front in a hurry.”

    He’s right—but the key question, now that the season is underway, is how much better can the Giants’ and the Seahawks’ offensive lines really get? The Giants opted to go with the same starting five as last season, despite the unit’s struggles in 2016. They had been banking on left tackle Ereck Flowers, their first-round pick in 2015, taking a big step forward in Year 3. The Seahawks, meanwhile, put stock in another year of experience for their young draft picks, and they signed free agent Luke Joeckel, the former No. 2 overall pick, after the Jaguars let him walk.

    The early returns were not pretty. You may have seen that disheartening freeze frame from the Seahawks’ 17-9 loss to the Packers circulating on social media: Russell Wilson on a third-and-10, a good 15 yards behind the line of scrimmage, trying to run away from three Packers defenders. The only thing left to do for the four offensive linemen who got beat was to chase the players chasing their quarterback. Wilson got rid of the ball, completing a throw to tight end Jimmy Graham, for a loss of one yard.

    It wasn’t even the worst play of the night—that would be the third-down strip sack of Wilson in the third quarter, on which the game turned for the Packers. Defensive tackle Mike Daniels, who had beaten right guard Mark Glowinski for a sack of Wilson just two plays earlier, this time beat the left guard, Joeckel, with a similar inside move and knocked the ball loose. The Packers recovered on Seattle’s 6-yard line and scored a touchdown on the next snap.

    The Giants’ woes up front weren’t quite as dramatic—McAdoo praised Eli Manning for keeping two hands on the ball and not fumbling, which gives you an idea of how often he was in a pressure situation—but they are no less concerning. The Cowboys don’t have a particularly talented front, but Demarcus Lawrence and Charles Tapper looked like Von Miller or Khalil Mack against right guard John Jerry and right tackle Bobby Hart (Hart was hampered by an ankle injury). In particular, the Giants struggled with third-down stunts, a rather routine tactic used by defenses on passing downs. “We had some technical breakdowns,” McAdoo said.

    In fairness, both the Giants and the Seahawks lost on the road to defending division champions. The Packers have a talented front seven, and Cowboys defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli has had a track record of getting a performance out of his unit that is greater than the sum of its parts. Also, most coaches will tell you that the defense is always ahead of the offense early in the season, and that the last piece of an offense to come together is usually its pass protection, because of the required unison between several players.

    But, for two teams that have the potential to be contenders (and for several others who do not) the play of the offensive line on opening weekend was a glaring weakness. The unit has been a sore point for the Seahawks since the spring of 2015, when, after making their second trip to the Super Bowl in two seasons, they traded All-Pro center Max Unger and a first-round pick to the Saints in exchange for tight end Jimmy Graham. The Giants’ two Super Bowl titles in the past decade featured strong line play on both sides of the ball, but as the stalwarts on those teams slowly faded to retirement, the Giants have struggled to replenish the same quality of play on the offensive line.

    The two theories mentioned above—the new practice rules and the rise of collegiate spread offenses—have no doubt played a role in some of the ugly NFL line play. It takes more time for players to adjust from college to pro-style offenses, and they have less practice time to do so. And that’s magnified by the fact that the NFL becomes more and more of a passing league each year. Geoff Schwartz, a seventh-round draft pick out of Oregon in 2008, played eight seasons in the NFL (including two with the Giants) and recalls needing a few months as a rookie to master his three-point stance, and then having to re-work it in the offseason with the help of veteran teammate Jordan Gross. But he was on the practice squad his first season, so he had time to adjust.

    “In college, there is so much misdirection, and the tempo is so fast at times, you don’t even have to really block anybody because the defense is so tired,” Schwartz said. “What we’ve really lost in college is the idea of finishing. In the NFL, you have to finish to be an elite offensive lineman. In college, your goal is to get back to the line of scrimmage and snap the ball again. The mentality of not finishing in college hurts you when you get to the NFL.”

    Nick Hardwick, who played 11 seasons as the Chargers’ center before retiring in 2014, suggests another theory for the decline in play. “I’ve talked to some nose tackles and defensive tackles around the league who say the craftiness from offensive linemen is dissipating,” he said. “Guys understand the basics of the game—hat placement, eye placement, footwork, hands—but they don’t understand the nuances that take their game to the next level. The subtleties of having a personal game plan for how to set up your opponent, so you are not countering his moves, he’s countering yours.”

    What about the teams that have had success up front? The Cowboys and the Titans, for example, have invested high draft picks in players with experience playing in pro-style offenses at the college level. The Raiders, on the other hand, spent a lot of money in free agency over the last few years to build a line that is among the best in the league. These teams have not only invested the resources, but so far they seem to have used them wisely. In the 2016 draft, for example, the Titans traded up to pick tackle Jack Conklin from Michigan State at No. 8 overall. Last season, he was named first team All-Pro. A year earlier, the Giants stayed put at No. 10 to draft Flowers, who has immense physical talent but had some technique issues coming out of Miami that he’s yet to overcome.

    That’s not to say Flowers, and some of the other young players on the Seattle and New York lines, won’t take steps forward this season. Take the case of Eric Fisher, the No. 1 overall pick in 2013, who struggled early on and was even demoted from his left tackle job as recently as two years ago. He bounced back and has developed into a solid left tackle who earned a four-year contract extension last summer. The Chiefs offensive line has emerged as one of the better units in the league and was key to the team’s upset win over the Patriots last Thursday.

    McAdoo said they’d consider lineup changes, or tweaks to the scheme to give the offense a better chance up front. Of course, players who have been there before say there’s only so much you can do at this point in the season. If there’s just one weak spot on the line, coaches can scheme to send extra help his direction with running backs or tight ends chipping, and by having the QB get rid of the ball quickly. But both the Giants and Seahawks have shown flaws at multiple positions up front.

    “At some point, they are going to run into a unit on the other side of the ball that is going to be able to pierce that front and make it an absolute nightmare for either Russell Wilson or Eli Manning,” Hardwick said. “By having a poor offensive line, you cap off the potential of your team.”

    That’s the big question both teams are facing this season. With the season already underway, can they raise the level of play on their offensive line or make enough adjustments in order to make a deep playoff run? Or, will their performance up front yet again hold them back this season? It’s an important question, and one that’s becoming even more important in today’s NFL.

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    Given all this the Rams are lucky to have Whitworth.

    Here’s a report out of Cincinnati in relation to that from https://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/9/10/16284112/nfl-week-1-bengals-vs-ravens-7-losers-1-winner-cincinnati-losing-effort

    Cedric Ogbuehi

    Cincinnati drafted Cedric Ogbuehi in the first round on the 2015 NFL Draft with the hope he would eventually replace Andrew Whitworth as the Bengals’ starting left tackle. Ogbuehi got his chance Sunday, after starting at right tackle for much of last year, and it was not pretty.

    Ogbuehi continued to struggle against bull rushes, and allowed Baltimore’s aging—but still effective—Terrell Suggs to spend more time in the Bengals’ backfield than any one of Cincinnati’s three running backs.

    And it was just as bad on the other side…

    Jake Fisher

    Jake Fisher, the other tackle taken in the second round of the 2015 NFL Draft, got hit with a pair of holding calls and allowed Suggs to run through him, as well. The Bengals are going to need drastically improved offensive line play and it’s unclear how they will accomplish that.

    #74441
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    Unless there is an Orlando Pace or Alex Mack in the draft, why not still draft an LT, a C, or the other three OL positions per say, and do like what we do with QBs in the past, let them sit for a year or two and groom them for the role? They will still get banged around on occasion as well in practices. Just saying.

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