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ZooeyModeratorI think he’s a backup who could develop into a competent starter. I don’t think he will be the kind of starter that ever shuts up an entire fan base permanently. I think he’s the kind of QB who will always be teetering on the edge of QB controversy. You know, a bunch of fans saying, “Start the other guy,” after every two-game losing streak.
The great thing about Davis at this point is that he isn’t the reason the Rams are losing. And that’s good enough for a third stringer to deserve a little patience from everybody. But I am in the wait-and-see category. There are things he does – like throw pick-sixes in crunch time – that aren’t acceptable. He is a legit backup, though. For sure.
ZooeyModeratorWell, it figured to be either Givens or Pettis eventually. What Givens has to contribute (deep speed) is more unique to the WR collection than what Pettis contributes. Britt and Quick can do what Pettis does. And more. So….
ZooeyModeratorMy confidence is shaken. I haven’t totally lost faith yet simply because I have no idea what the hell is happening.
But…you know…the defense isn’t working.
ZooeyModeratorNope. My niece is getting married at a winery in the Napa Valley.
Boy, that was weird for a second. Glad we got that cleared up.
ZooeyModeratorThat’s weird. Me too. You aren’t going to my niece’s wedding, too, are you?
ZooeyModeratorI will never forget that play. Jenkins could never get burned again even once in the next 12 years of a certain Hall of Fame bound career, and I – when I think of Jenkins – will remember that play.
I am 53 years old. And if I was put out on that field for that one play, I would never have let that happen.
There is NO WAY you let Lloyd get upfield of you in that situation no matter WHAT you give up underneath.
ZooeyModeratorFisher is here next year unless players start rebelling.
As for Williams…boy. I cannot see Fisher canning Williams. Not after what he went through to get Williams here.
I think this is it. This is the coaching staff for the 2015 season, give or take a position coach.
ZooeyModeratorI had to work tonight–listened on the radio and caught the last 6 minutes of the game at home. I have it on DVR. Doubt that I’ll watch it.
But just listening I could hear a tackle for loss and then on a second and long—first down.
3rd and long–first down.
I didn’t get to see the bad calls tonight(I know they were there)but it isn’t JUST the bad calls. This team is a letdown waiting to happen.
I will say on the Lloyd touchdown–it looked like Quinn was being held again–but Ray Lewis and others were talking about it after the game and called it, “high school football”. They were saying that it was odd the Rams were even set up like they were for that situation. I’m no coach–I don’t know.
But the Rams do what they do best–disappoint.
I don’t understand it.
Who didn’t see that play coming?
It’s 3rd and 6 (or thereabouts), and with under a minute left, and the 9ers still deep in their own territory, they show no urgency. They are letting the clock run. They obviously are eating some clock in case they don’t get the first down, but in doing so, they aren’t leaving themselves much time, either. So what are they going to do?
They are going to take a shot deep. It’s so obvious.
I’m still shaking my head.
ZooeyModeratorThis is a rerun that I have seen too many times.
It feels like ten years of this. Sometimes a bit better, sometimes even worse, but just consistent inconsistency. Just good enough to keep one hoping to reap something next time from these growing pains, and just bad enough to never realize that hope.
ZooeyModeratorI totally called it.
Rams lose by 14…
Refs directly responsible for sending 14 pts to the 9ers… as well as squelching a Rams scoring drive that would have put the Rams up at least 17-3 if not 21-3 at the half…
Does that last 9er TD even happen if the game is closer? I dunno. They sure can’t sit back in that soft zone, that’s for sure.
But I totally called it. Rams got up and the calls kept coming until the game was out of reach.
I wanted to put this on the record BEFORE the game so that I was clear. This isn’t an accident.
Also, even Denver wouldn’t have overcome the Refs help if the Jets had made even some basic plays. Problem for the Jets is that they suck that bad that the Refs just couldn’t help them enough. But it weren’t for lack of trying…
And really, I like the QB Carr in Oakland, but who believes that those calls were legit and Oakland was playing San Diego straight up? I watched lots of that game and I was getting dizzy shaking my head.
I swear, this just LOOKS like a set up to move the “losing team” back to LA where St. Louis will have bid them adieu with waning fan support due to lack of wins and then all of a sudden, they’ll bust out and be a winning team in their new setting… That’s pure speculation, but man alive it sure seems like that’s the cheesy script.
Be nice if the game were just that, called on its merits and played for the win.
I don’t know, man. So hard to keep a conspiracy quiet. At least long term. Eventually refs aren’t refs any longer, and what’s to stop them from talking? Or any of countless people in that grapevine.
But that call on Cook was a turning point, for sure.
It’s just that it is impossible for me to call that a gamebreaker because it wasn’t. The Rams were incompetent, especially on defense. So although the refs botched a few calls, that loss was on the Rams themselves, I thought.
I did note, I thought, on the replays showing the job Staley was doing on Quinn, two holds and a hands to the face on the four plays they showed.
ZooeyModeratorI’m disgusted.
I just have come to expect this team to gag at any given time, and they always oblige. I mean, who wasn’t expecting a pick-6 on the final drive? I was also expecting the Brandon Lloyd pass. I was expecting conversions on 3rd and long. I was expecting flags at inopportune moments.
It’s just disgusting. It’s disgusting because it has been going on for so, so long, and because they should be better than this. All the highly touted drafts, and the windfall from the RGIII trade, and they’re supposed to be talented. The Rams play like overachieving scrubs. Meanwhile, they have for years been making journeymen on the other team look like pro bowlers.
This is a team with the consensus best DL in the NFL, and they set a record tonight for the fewest sacks in the first five games of the season, ever. How is that even possible? One sack in 5 games? With Quinn having zero? I don’t know how to analyze coordinators, or coaches in general, but nothing I see from the Rams’ defense makes me the least bit grateful that they have Gregg Williams. There is NO pressure.
And how can Jenkins give up that pass to Lloyd on that down and distance, with that much time on the clock? He has to know the one thing he can NOT do is let Lloyd get behind him. That’s his only responsibility there.
And the drops. The pressure on Davis.
At no time does one EVER get the feeling that the Rams have control of an aspect of the game. Not even against Tampa. Not even against Dallas in the first quarter. There is just NEVER any sense that the Rams are dominating the line on either side of the ball, or dictating things to the other team.
To paraphrase Roland Williams, “It’s a debacle.”
And I feel this way mid-week, too. Not just immediately after another incompetent performance.
This team looks like it’s still playing pre-season games.
ZooeyModeratorThis really brings back my reservations about the Robinson pick. The people who loved the pick said we’d have a great starting LOT for years who’d make an immediate impact at guard. If he can’t beat out a guy grading as poorly as Joseph, why should we think he’s ever going to be a probowl LOT? Any research gurus know how often top 10 OL picks spend their rookie year on the bench?
Yeah, WTH is going on there? It is high time somebody got some off the record report.
Where’s Jimi?
It is not a good sign. And it isn’t good that Mason isn’t even active.
ZooeyModeratorZooey wrote:
I don’t think Davis gets more than two consecutive games in which his performance is part of the storyline of a loss.Maybe 3? Nah probably 2. Good post.
Interesting times.
Sure. Three. It would depend on how big of a contributor his performance was in the losses, who the next opponent is, the relative health of both QBs, the psychological mindset of Davis going forward, the pulse of the locker room, and so on.
Obviously, the number isn’t important, as you know. All I’m really saying is Davis has been instructed not to look over his shoulder, but let’s face it, Fisher is looking over his shoulder. That’s the reality.
So…here’s hoping Davis rips off one good performance after another.
ZooeyModeratorWell, Fisher had to make a decision, and either QB was a defensible choice at this point. And I don’t fault him for the way it went down.
Coaches are like politicians, and presidents, and theatre directors. When you are the guy in charge of an entire program, you simply aren’t at liberty to say whatever you think, or even tell it like it is.
Fisher was adamant the whole time that Hill was the starter, all the while considering his options with an open mind. That’s what a coach has to do. Now, he names Davis the starter from this point forward…”Don’t look over your shoulder; you’re the man”…and he knows that Davis’ hold on the position DOES depend upon his performance, and that he might have to go to Hill.
Fisher knows that. He can’t say that.
If he said that, you know what would happen in the locker room and during every single interview.
Right now, Davis is the starter against the Eagles, and it’s his job to lose going forward. But I don’t think Davis gets more than two consecutive games in which his performance is part of the storyline of a loss.
ZooeyModeratorI am thinking more of camp rather than exhibition games. The reports were pretty dang lackluster iirc. Not that Gilbert ever got a positive write up. But it just seemed unlikely to me that the Rams would hang onto Davis. Draft picks almost always get a stretch of time to develop, and Davis already had time to develop, and didn’t seem to do so. The Rams had cut him before.
ZooeyModeratorZooey wrote:
Austin Davis is an extremely lucky man.If Bradford had not been hurt, he would not be employed in the NFL right now at all. They would have kept Hill as the #2, and the draft pick for future development, and Davis would have been gone.
I don’t know about that. I think if Bradford had stayed, Davis was the third, just based on how he started getting it together in the pre-season.
If you say so. I don’t remember reading anything positive about Davis during pre-season. I remember thinking the guy was a goner, for sure. There was no point in keeping him with a healthy Bradford, Hill, and Gilbert (either on the team or PS).
ZooeyModeratorAustin Davis is an extremely lucky man.
If Bradford had not been hurt, he would not be employed in the NFL right now at all. They would have kept Hill as the #2, and the draft pick for future development, and Davis would have been gone.
September 30, 2014 at 7:56 pm in reply to: AEG seeks extension, sites progress in negotiations with the NFL #8762
ZooeyModeratorI just don’t see a development firm like AEG building a stadium and leasing it to a NFL team. I think this window closes and we see the city take over negotiations. If a team moves and a stadium gets built in LA, it will be done the old fashioned way – with shitloads of public money and promises of economic benefits to the taxpayers.
AEG is a bit of a mystery to me. Purportedly, they want to build a stadium AND own the occupying team.
But they made no move on the Bills.
There are no other teams for sale. And in my thinking, only Buffalo, Jacksonville, Oakland, and the Rams ever made sense as teams to relocate to LA. I never believed Minnesota, San Francisco, or Seattle were seriously in the conversation.
Well…the Bills were for sale. And AEG did nothing. So – since none of the other teams are for sale – I conclude that AEG is either positioning themselves for an expansion team (balanced by one presumably in London), or they have given up the idea of owning a team. Expansion does not seem imminent, and Kroenke isn’t interested in parting with ownership, and he prefers to own his facilities.
I frankly can’t make sense of AEG at all. Unless they have an understanding with the NFL office.
I guess this storyline is going to heat up over the next six months.
September 30, 2014 at 1:28 am in reply to: The official "so what game(s) are you watching" thread #8710
ZooeyModeratorCan we go ahead and state that the Patriots just aint what they use to be? Maybe Tom Brady should retire than take a beating like he’s taking on this inferior Patriot offensive line that plays in front of him. Chiefs are a decent team but last time I checked it was 41-7 Chiefs. Huh?
Grits
No.
I think he should stick around and take a beating.
ZooeyModeratorI’m just here for the pie…..
Apparently there is no pie. The whole thing appears to be some kind of twisted joke perpetrated by zn.
It’s alright. I’ll just get my own pie.

You can have some.
Help yourself.
ZooeyModeratorsdram wrote:
If you’re going to change the informal poll contest rules then I want a potato chip crust on my tomato pie too.Well I didn’t CHANGE them, per se. I took advantage of the bye to improve them a little. You know, just tinkering. All this came about after watching hours of film on informal polls and how they work.
Wait a minute.
It was never clear that there was any deadline at all. Now you say there is, and it’s an “improved” deadline.
It makes a difference to those of us who are serious about pie. I was waiting for the proper moment.
For example, if the deadline had been set at, say, right about now, I would have answered 10.
…now I’m just gonna scroll back a sec…and…yup!…10 on the nose.
So I want pie. Pumpkin.
ZooeyModeratorAh. Just another reminder of how much you hate apple pie.
ZooeyModeratorRamView, September 21, 2014
From Row HH
(Report and opinions from the game.)
Game #3: Cowboys 34, Rams 31* Upon further review: This game wasn’t refereed as much as it was bungled, and the Rams continue to be the rare home team in sports that gets consistently screwed over by officiating, getting called for 119 penalty yards to Dallas’ 15. Clete Blakeman handed Dallas three points (the winning margin) before halftime with a ludicrous call on Sims for roughing Romo, calling a blow to the head for touching Romo’s shoulder, just like Dunbar got called for (and even more ridiculously, fined for) last week. Davis was roughed up worse than that a couple of times without a call, not that I would have called it, but Blakeman should have, if he was planning to treat both #9s fairly. Later, Britt got called for holding a DB who went to the ground completely on his own. Sims got a holding call late in the game when he should have gotten credit for a brilliant sack of Romo. He was completely within his rights holding up the receiver at the line. Sims didn’t do anything Jeremy Mincey didn’t do on Kendricks’ TD catch. The game was called neither evenly nor competently, and the main job of Blakeman’s crew appeared to be making clutch calls to keep the Cowboys in the game or ahead.
— Mike
Game stats from espn.comHe doesn’t even mention the egregious non-call on the holding/tackling of Langford on Bryant’s TD. Get that blatantly obvious call right, and the Rams are probably 2-1 in spite of everything else.
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September 22, 2014 at 10:35 pm in reply to: A QB controversy and a Tight-End controversy: game reactions #8275
ZooeyModerator–
I agree with what Fisher says here.–
When you look at it, it comes down to four or five plays on both sides of the ball. The three turnovers on offense were costly. It’s difficult to win when you turn it over three times against an explosive offense like the Cowboys. Then defensively, we had three or four plays, one play in particular, the touchdown pass on the communication issue in the coverage. It’s hard to overcome those type of things.
Yes.
I would add, though, that that was the case last year, too. And that most of us thought that this year the Rams would be on the right side of those plays 3 or 4 times out of 5.
ZooeyModeratorI think James Harris should start.
No wait, I mean Jaworski.
Not Haden though ; he’s too short.…What if Hill starts and
throws for 400 yards —
what then?w
vWell…the Rams will still lose by 6 points, due, in part, to a critical delay of game penalty called on Eugene Sims while he is standing on the sideline.
ZooeyModeratorIf they get routed after two weeks to prepare,
I’m gonna start watching Oprah on sundays.w
vI hear ya.
I’m not happy.
I’ve already decided to punish the Rams by not watching them next Sunday. Kind of a one week boycott. Hopefully they will get the message and perform better in two weeks time.
September 21, 2014 at 11:48 pm in reply to: I think Davis solidfied his hold on the number one job today. #8160
ZooeyModeratorZooey wrote:
I will say one thing about Davis. He seems to go through progressions better than Bradford does.Oh I don’t believe that for a second. Bradford went through progressions, and if anything, they have scaled back the number of options Davis has per pass play. What Davis has that Bradford didn’t is the 2014 Rams receiving corps…which is just better.
All I know is I see Davis drop back and look at two or three guys before he throws quite often, and I don’t see Bradford doing it as frequently.
September 21, 2014 at 10:35 pm in reply to: I think Davis solidfied his hold on the number one job today. #8150
ZooeyModeratorI will say one thing about Davis. He seems to go through progressions better than Bradford does.
ZooeyModeratorI am forgiving Cook for this.
September 21, 2014 at 8:50 pm in reply to: A QB controversy and a Tight-End controversy: game reactions #8121
ZooeyModeratorScott Wells for the Pro Bowl this year? Anyone?

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