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    How Rams-Bengals practice devolved into brawls, Aaron Donald swinging helmets

    Jul 30, 2022; Irvine, CA, USA; Los Angeles Rams defensive lineman Aaron Donald (99) during training camp at University of California Irvine. Mandatory Credit: Kiyoshi Mio-USA TODAY Sports
    CINCINNATI — Wednesday’s “Kumbaya” devolved into “Kill ‘Em All” at Thursday’s joint practice between the Bengals and Rams, when a series of three fights, each increasing in intensity and participation, brought the day to a screeching halt.

    Bengals right tackle La’el Collins and Rams defensive end Leonard Floyd were the main combatants in each fracas. During the third and most explosive scrum, Los Angeles defensive tackle Aaron Donald swung a Bengals helmet several times into the mass, landing at least one blow on top of an opponent’s helmet.

    After the coaching staffs separated the players, Bengals head coach Zac Taylor and Rams head coach Sean McVay decided to stop the practice. The teams had about 30 minutes left in their planned schedule.

    “It just got a little scuffly, and so we just called it,” Taylor said. “We were in the last period, and we got two really good days of work in. So was it worth getting the extra couple of plays? Nah. So we called it off. We got two days of work in and we’ll go play on Saturday.”

    “Just like Zac would say, I expect our guys to defend their teammates and vice versa,” McVay added. “There are certain things (where) you just don’t know what occurred. My understanding is that nobody got injured and that’s the most important thing. We’ll move on.”

    Fights have been commonplace in joint practices across the league this summer, but the Rams and Bengals were confident their sessions would be void of such drama given the friendship and working history between the two head coaches. For the duration of Wednesday’s session, that was the case, as there wasn’t so much as light shoving between snaps in what both sides called a “productive” day. The teams also featured strict “no-tackle” rules, in which physical thud-tackling was allowed but not tackling to the ground.

    It’s unclear exactly where things started going wrong Thursday, although in the first competitive drills of the day — where the Bengals offensive linemen were going one-on-one and two-on-two against the Rams defensive line — Floyd beat Collins twice.

    If there were any concerns about emotions being raw from the Rams’ Super Bowl victory six months ago, this wasn’t that. Collins was the prize piece of this year’s Bengals free-agent class, agreeing to a three-year, $21 million deal in March after seven seasons in Dallas, so he wasn’t on the roster in February.

    But Collins is just getting up to speed after starting camp on the non-football injury list with a back issue, and save for a walk-through Friday, the joint practices Wednesday and Thursday marked his first live-action in 11-on-11 work since the Cowboys’ playoff loss to the 49ers in January.

    He and Floyd are very familiar with each other from matchups between both of their respective former teams (Floyd was initially drafted No. 9 by Chicago in 2016). Collins is no stranger to fights. While with Dallas last year, he was ejected in Week 14 for fighting after a late hit on quarterback Dak Prescott. Collins threw punches at Washington’s Will Bradley-King in the incident.

    It was well into the initial 11-on-11 period Thursday when Floyd and Collins first fought, at the end of play in which Ja’Marr Chase hauled in a 40-yard bomb from quarterback Joe Burrow. Players from both teams rushed in and then separated just as quickly as the twos took the field. Rams director of football affairs Jacques McClendon dove into the scrum and physically pulled away defensive tackle A’Shawn Robinson, who was visibly agitated.

    When the ones returned, so did the animosity as Floyd and Collins went at it again. This time, Collins ended up holding a Rams helmet, which he tossed away from the action. Again, coaches and assistants separated players.

    The teams went into special teams work after that, but it hardly served as a pressure valve. Two plays after resuming 11-on-11 work, Collins and Floyd went at it again. This time, both players threw multiple punches as numerous members of each team joined the fray, including Donald, who swung a Bengals helmet at Cincinnati players several times. The practices were closed to the public, but friends and family of the teams and Bengals-affiliated corporate partners were in attendance, and multiple videos quickly surfaced that show Donald also falling backward onto the ground, with Bengals helmets in each hand.

    Once the coaches got things settled down, the Bengals retreated to the area behind the end zone while the Rams went to their sideline. The only player who remained on the field was Rams cornerback Jalen Ramsey, who took the opportunity to work on hand placement technique with Bengals wide receivers coach Troy Walters.

    Taylor and McVay decided to end the practice a few minutes later, with the Bengals leaving the field first and the Rams waiting until they were gone to exit.

    Donald was originally scheduled for a press conference after Thursday’s practice but ultimately declined. Through a team spokesperson, Donald declined an additional request for comment about the situation.

    “Especially when you start throwing punches with gear on, I’ve been enough of a meathead in my past where I’ve done some stupid stuff, too,” said McVay, who furiously dove into the final scrum in an effort to pull players apart. He declined to specify how the fight started or escalated.

    “I know how volatile and how fragile it is where you hit it the wrong way, you break your hand and it could affect a guy’s chance to be OK — or God forbid, someone gets hit in the head with a helmet off … I don’t know what emotions I was feeling right there, I was just glad when everything got broken up and my understanding was that everybody is OK.”

    The Rams declined to comment further on the situation, deferring instead to McVay’s comments in his press conference. The NFL defers to teams on matters that occur during practice when it considers disciplinary action, so it’s unlikely that Donald will face league-sanctioned discipline.

     

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    Gail Mellor@authorpendragon
    Trump took documents that revealed the names and missions of US overseas agents and that are “Code Level Midnight,” information representing the gravest possible threat to our national security. The only possible reason is sale. He’s dying to get it back for buyer to have it.
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    Ramaniac@RamaniacG
    Shocker that Florio on the Rich Eisen show right now says the NFL should break precedent and work to suspend Aaron Donald, he says they should invoke Sue L Robinson and begin proceedings.

    So would the NFL be forced to investigate La’el Collins, who was reported to have removed and thrown a helmet at a Rams player just minutes before?

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    in reply to: A-A- Ron Donald…and the Cincy practice brawl #140286
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    Donald only got 2 helmets.

    He needs to step it up.

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    Bengals-Rams joint practice: Super Bowl deja vu and other observations

    https://theathletic.com/3536530/2022/08/24/bengals-rams-joint-practice-super-bowl/?source=emp_shared_article

    When the Rams offense lined up against the Bengals defense for the start of joint practices next to Paycor Stadium on Wednesday, it looked like a continuation of the visitors’ final possession in Super Bowl LVI, with Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp and company driving the ball at will.

    Stafford and backups John Wolford and Bryce Perkins came out and ran tempo right away, completing their first 19 passes against the Bengals defense in seven-on-seven and 11-on-11 action.

    The first incompletion came when Bengals cornerback Tre Flowers — who was getting increased reps because starter Eli Apple was out after having fluid drained from his quad — broke up a pass intended for Allen Robinson II in the end zone.

    Stafford came back and hit his next four passes, the last two of which were touchdowns to Kupp, who beat Chidobe Awuzie on the first one and Mike Hilton on the second, again conjuring memories from February.

    “We started off very slow,” Awuzie said. “I think it was one of our slowest days to start a practice.”

    It was the first real action the first team had seen in nearly a week. Friday was a walk-through, Saturday a travel day, Sunday a preseason game in which no starters dressed, and Monday and Tuesday were off days.

    “That’s very true,” Awuzie said. “But there’s no excuses in this league. If you’re out here, you’ve got to put out your best stuff. And obviously we didn’t in the first half of the practice.”

    All told, in the first set of sevens and 11s, the Rams completed 27 of 29 passes, punctuated with a touchdown pass from Wolford to undrafted rookie wide receiver Lance McCutcheon, who had Bengals undrafted rookie corner Allan George draped on him in coverage.

    After a couple of periods of special teams work, the teams went back to an 11-on-11 period of third downs. On the first play, Flowers broke up a pass intended for Kupp to set a tone of redemption for the defense.

    Even on the passes Stafford and the backups completed, many were short of the first down.

    And the young defensive linemen — Cam Sample, Jeff Gunter, Joseph Ossai and Zach Carter in particular — spent a lot of time in the backfield, and each of them recorded at least one “sack.”

    On the downside, there were multiple offsides penalties. Three of them went against Trey Hendrickson, one went against Sample and on another, Sample and Gunter jumped.

    While talking about the young linemen after practice, defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo noticed Sample picking up his equipment behind him and pivoted off topic while comically raising his volume to say: “As long as we can stay onside on defense with our defensive line. Oh, is that Cam right there?”

    The most impressive periods for the Bengals defense were at the end, in the two-minute drill, which again brought back Super Bowl memories.

    The second team went first, and Gunter got a sack on second down while George appeared to intercept a pass on third down, only to have the officials rule it hit the ground. On fourth down, safety Trayvon Henderson, who had an interception go off his hands earlier in practice, tipped a pass that George intercepted.

    Stafford and the first team got one first down, but on the ensuing third down, he tried to hit Kupp along the right sideline, only to have Awuzie break up the pass. “That was sweet,” Kupp told Awuzie as they headed out of bounds, and the conversation continued as they headed back to their huddles.

    “He said he tried to go late hands, but he didn’t get me,” Awuzie said. “Ja’Marr (Chase) does a real good job of that, too, so I was kind of used to it.”

    On fourth down, Stafford tried to force a ball into coverage over the middle, only to have either Flowers or Hilton deflect just before they collided. Vonn Bell snared the ball out of the air for a practice-ending interception.

    Rams head coach Sean McVay was complimentary of Anarumo and the Bengals defense afterward.

    “They’ve got a Rolodex of coverages. They play it all really sound,” McVay said. “There’s not a lot of air in the coverages, and they mix it up really well. … In a lot of instances, whether it’s watching these guys or even just spending a little bit of time with Lou Anarumo, I have tremendous respect for him and what his group has done, especially just looking at their trajectory since Zac (Taylor) took over. I’m just such a fan of the game, and I’ve got so much respect for the way that they operate.”

    Hilton and Flowers stayed down for a bit after the play, but they eventually walked off under their own power, albeit with a slight limp for Hilton. But he said in a post-practice interview he was good.

    “We ended up finishing strong, made a lot of plays, doing what we’re used to,” Awuzie said. “This is my first time doing a joint practice. It was kind of awkward and weird at first. It’s not a game, but you’re going against another team. I still don’t really know what to say about it.

    “We started with 15 minutes of (individual drills) and then (went) straight to competing. Now we know what to expect, so our minds have to be right as soon as we get out here tomorrow.”

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    in reply to: Rams tweets … 8/26 – 8/31 #140278
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    First session of full-field team drills over (11-on-11). In terms of specifically workload on a second consecutive high-volume day, Matthew Stafford appears able to, as Sean McVay would say, “throw it all around the yard”. Getting good looks from Bengals secondary too.
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    in reply to: Rams tweets … 8/26 – 8/31 #140275
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    Stu Jackson@StuJRams
    Rams head coach Sean McVay said QB John Wolford hurt the fingernail on his throwing thumb in yesterday’s joint practice with Bengals. Made it “weird” for Wolford to grip the ball. Wolford’s status Saturday’s preseason game TBD.
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Kyren Williams is getting some work in the passing game from Matthew Stafford today and looks pretty smooth out there.
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    CJ Flinter@CJhasLiveSports
    Bot a good look for AD, BUT lets keep the same energy for Collins ripping off Floyds helmet and throwing it at him while also trying to throw haymakers. just before this incident happened.

    Jordan@jasrifootball
    Update: #Cowboys reached out to free agent/retired OT Andrew Whitworth after Tyron Smith’s injury

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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    A furious McVay jumped into the scrum that ended practice. “I don’t know what I was, I just see guys swinging and some guys have helmets on, some don’t, you just never know what can occur. My biggest concern is unnecessary injuries …” (added that he didn’t think anyone got hurt)
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    Gary Klein@LATimesklein

    McVay: “I don’t know exactly what instigated it. I think in some instances teams defending each other. Fortunately, my understanding is nobody got hurt and we’ll move on from it. Not going to make a bigger deal than what it is. Not going to look at pointing fingers.”
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    Jason Cole@JasonCole62
    Just reviewed 49ers first half with Trey Lance. OL wasn’t great, but … 1. His eye level dropped as soon as he saw a free rusher 2. He missed 3 throws where you simply have to complete or hit the receiver in stride 3. Missed a deep read with Deebo running open vs. faked blitz
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    Only one team had three players in the top twenty…

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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    Sean McVay has hired Jay Gruden as a consultant, he’s been out here but will largely work remotely.
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    Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
    ASIDE from the fighting, here’s a thread of other takeaways from a shortened Rams/Bengals practice…

    1. Akers, Jefferson, Lewis, Henderson among those who didn’t practice. Williams/Funk, Atwell/Skow, Garrett/Whitley among those who repped in snap share in absence (1s & 2s).

    2. Perkins ran the 2s with Wolford (DEPARTED THUMBNAIL) out today. Lots of work with Harris, McCutcheon, Powell, Funk. Williams again lots of work with Stafford. Looks confident and smooth.

    3. Powell also still repped 1 on kickoff/punt return, as expected.

    4. Post-fight (one of them, anyway), Ramsey had an INT first play back.

    5. Hoecht running special teams is amusing, meaning as a compliment. He’s about a head and shoulders taller/broader than everyone else out there and getting downfield to enforce. DL raving about he and Williams’ camps.

    6. Durant is really getting thrown into it, no pun intended. Had been noted by Snead/McVay at draft but really impressed with what he does on outside, where some projected him pre-draft into slot alone.

    7. Less tempo to open (pre-planned). More full field.

    8. I’ve been wrong before (a lot!) but I think Yeast makes this team.

    9. Atwell had a clear drop on a deep ball (otherwise TD). Immediately McVay goes directly to encourage him on sideline after failed play.

    10. Something I almost never see: Kupp drop on a beautiful deep ball.

    10., cont. …he knew it, too. Interesting to see a perfectionist troubleshoot himself after something like that (last fully-open practice of the year). Learn so much in neat human moments.

    11. Early in 11-on-11s, I’m standing next to Kevin Demoff behind the end zone. Stafford

    unfurls a ball on a corner route to Tyler Higbee that legitimately made no sense, the way it dropped in for him. Demoff, in an awed tone: “Holy shit. Nothing about that looked right, until the end.”

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    from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2022/08/22/rams-matthew-stafford-nfl-top-100-players-mathieu-david-jones/?taid=6305b07a398b30000150661b&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=twitter

    After making the NFL’s Top 100 Players of 2022 list at No. 27, several players from around the league shared what makes Stafford so good. Check out the full video here.

    Cooper Kupp: “You talk about being reactive as a quarterback, you take what the defense gives you. They say it all the time. I think a lot of times, he says, ‘Screw that, I’m gonna take what I want.’ What he does with his eyes and manipulating defenses, ‘I’m gonna move this guy and throw where I want,’ that I think is a special trait of his.”

    Tyrann Mathieu: “Man, Stafford is so underrated from just a pure talent perspective. All the side-arm throws and the no-look passes, he’s been doing those things.”

    Chester Rogers: “I think he’s been a top-five quarterback since he’s been in the league, he’s just been in Detroit. Now he’s in L.A., he’s shining.”

    Lavonte David: “It was kind of like night-and-day from what they had before to what they’ve got now with him. 30-something seconds left, for him to keep his poise and not settle to go to overtime, that’s why you’ve got a guy like him. He got them to the Super Bowl, he made plays when they needed him to make plays.”

    Chandler Jones: “His quarterback vision is tremendous. He has a timer in his head that is tremendous.”

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