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August 2, 2022 at 2:09 am in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #139915
znModeratorfrom quoraDaisy Stella.On September 25, 2000, 19-year-old Kevin Hines tried to kill himself by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. He fell more than 220 feet to the water below, slamming into it at 75 miles per hour..The impact shattered three of his vertebrae and came within two millimeters of severing his spine — yet he somehow survived. And when he realized he was still alive, he was immediately overtaken by an overwhelming will to live....
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znModeratorznModeratorTuTu is the 3. He was getting 1st team reps with VJ out
Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Respectfully, we can’t make that inference yet especially because Skow took the vast majority of install reps at the 3, and it’s more likely to be a committee if they need to fill in more time. The stuff they ran Sat wasn’t reflective of their offense w/all the cameras on them.znModeratorJudge Robinson's decision in Deshaun Watson case turned on the distinction between violent and non-violent sexual assault. (Some would say sexual assault is sexual assault, with or without "violence.") https://t.co/1E5y9oOmRe
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znModeratorJim Trotter@JimTrotter_NFLSo many thoughts on this initial six-game suspension for Deshaun Watson. It’s crazy for the arbiter to say his conduct was “egregious” and then give him such a soft punishment. This was a fail in her first significant ruling, and the league should appeal it.znModeratorWest Virginia Senator Robert Karnes says child rape victims “romanticize” relationships with their rapists…pic.twitter.com/vtsObC0mFK
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znModeratorRams Monday training camp notes: Matthew Stafford rests (mostly), Tutu Atwell takes flight, Robert Rochell stands out, Bobby Wagner picks off, and Aaron Donald continues to do the same drill https://t.co/qnHGla1ZOt
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znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueSean McVay does expect Van Jefferson back in a matter of weeks (tho unsure if he will be cleared for opener at this time). He cites a few young players eligible for WR3 …then jokes (?), “and then we’ll continue to see if we can figure out when Odell will come back.”znModerator.IRVINE, Calif. — As the Rams de-escalated from consecutive padded practices to a much lighter “de-load” day Sunday, all eyes were on the small cluster of wide receivers working on the far field with the first-team offense.Absent was third-year receiver Van Jefferson, who had 802 yards and 50 catches last season as the Rams’ clear-cut No. 3 (behind Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods, and then Odell Beckham Jr. in Woods’ absence). Jefferson also missed Saturday’s practice as he deals with a situation — the nature of which coach Sean McVay declined to specify. Multiple sources told The Athletic that Jefferson’s absence is injury-related.
NFL Network insider Ian Rapoport said Sunday morning that Jefferson would seek more consultation about “a knee injury that has been plaguing him” Monday, which will include an assessment about whether he will need surgery. It’s unclear whether the injury is on the same leg Jefferson injured (and played through) in the postseason (and McVay declined to specify Saturday), but Jefferson did confirm as camp opened that he had surgery in the spring to fix it.
Though second-year receiver Ben Skowronek has shifted into a larger share of the snaps in team periods and installation work, the Rams won’t know what a longer-term plan of action will be until they know more about Jefferson’s status.
McVay didn’t have a news conference Sunday but is scheduled to be available Monday — the same day Jefferson may have more clarity on his next steps.
Saturday, because their practice was filmed by NFL Network cameras, the Rams didn’t show much depth of scheme or variety of personnel (although they were in pads for the second day in a row). Sunday, they de-loaded — which means the day was about mental work and installation, and none of the quarterbacks threw. Despite a workload that was kept more surface-level by design, there was still much to observe through the weekend.
A reminder: The Rams often structure their live periods to run the second team against the first team on each side of the ball. First team versus first team periods will be specified in reports. Media members cannot report on schemes or the depth chart unless addressing it directly with a coach/player in an interview, but otherwise, the full practice is open to credentialed viewers.
• Receiver Allen Robinson put together a nice workout Saturday. Robinson’s best catch was a contested effort across the back of the end zone, when the Rams were working first team against first team in a live red zone period. Stafford said later that Robinson was his third or even fourth read in the progression and that he looked off a defensive player to split open just enough room to fit the pass to Robinson as he sped across traffic in the end zone. The buzz swirling around Robinson is real (especially as non-daily media visit camp and watch him practice for the first time), and there’s substance behind it. He’s made quite an impact on teammates and coaches in a short time.
• Cam Akers and Darrell Henderson, the Rams’ two most veteran running backs, are splitting first-team snaps pretty evenly so far. It’s tough to tell without real contact how they will fare when the season begins, but so far both look explosive and healthy. They’re also clearly going to be a factor in the passing game.
“I look at it as we’ve got two starting backs,” McVay said. “Those guys are great complements (to) one another, but I see them as both starting-caliber players. We need to get them involved. They need to be on the field. I think it’s healthy for them to be able to supplement one another.”
The issue in the past, of course, has been both players’ availability. Henderson has suffered a variety of injuries over the past few years and Akers returned in-season from an Achilles tear suffered before camp last summer. Akers appears to have bulked up a bit in a positive way, which should bode well for his ability to keep ahold of the ball through contact and makes him a more dangerous player as a whole.
• Aaron Donald basically lived in the backfield during some of Saturday’s team period run plays, however, and at one point McVay and defensive coordinator Raheem Morris spelled him before executing a consecutive run play — McVay has joked in the past about giving Donald reps off so the offensive linemen can install their concepts without the stress of him bearing down on them. It’s unclear whether that’s exactly what happened in this scenario, but those jokes have a note of truth to them.
• Saturday, cornerback Robert Rochell tracked down and intercepted a John Wolford pass intended for Jacob Harris, who appeared to get redirected after some contact on his route and fell. Morris praised Rochell’s development into his second season in his news conference Sunday.
• Receiver Brandon Powell’s command of the return position is palpable during special teams installation periods at the beginning of practices through the first week of camp. Powell, who joined the Rams midseason last year and acted as an ignitor for their embattled special teams unit, returned to the team this spring on a one-year deal. However, it’s likely the Rams want whoever their return specialist is to also contribute on offense, even if they’d only be called upon to do so in an emergency. It’s notable that Powell, who has been repping first in return drills ahead of second-year receiver Tutu Atwell, spent a lot of time with Atwell and offensive assistant Greg Olson on the field where the first- and second-team offenses were installing Sunday.
• Rookie outside linebacker Daniel Hardy’s longer frame also stands out on special teams, where coaches hope his speed and size will help him contribute early on. Hardy’s family was at camp Sunday and vocally delighted to see him out on the field … even for something as low-glamour as a special teams install. Moments like that are what training camp is all about.
• There was a lot of crowd love for inside linebacker Bobby Wagner on Saturday, as the position group underwent ball tracking and movement drills on the sideline of the “near” field (the field closest to the players’ locker room) and in front of the bleachers on that side. Every time Wagner moved toward the sideline, the crowd swelled through the end of his rep. Each time he got back in line, he directed a small bow with clasped hands toward the direction of the crowd as a “thank you.”
• Reserve running back Raymond Calais is also getting some work at kick and punt return.
• Also during special teams install: Rookie punter Cameron Dicker, who is “competing” with veteran Riley Dixon for the job, demonstrated his ability to handle kickoffs as well. Meanwhile, Dixon seemed to have no problem holding kicks in live field goal periods.
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Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Raheem Morris on Bobby Wagner: “He doesn’t waste movement. It’s no secret … It’s really sickening to watch when he always ends up in the right spot because we played this game, a lot of us, and we’ve been in position and you work as hard as you can and you’re out of breath – andhe seems like he just doesn’t waste any movement, doesn’t waste any time, doesn’t waste any space. He eliminates areas that you didn’t think he was gonna get to as fast as he can get there.”
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McVay may be hinting at a committee at RB?
Jourdan Rodrigue
If both can stay healthy, sure. Both are very talented and I know Cam is ready to break out. Have yet to see them both healthy together for a full year though, unfortunately.Is there something going on with Stafford’s arm?
Jourdan Rodrigue
No, just shaking the rust off. He’s on a specific ramp-up plan after not throwing this spring is all, which is why we are all tracking when he does and does not throw – to get a better sense of the plan.I haven’t heard much about Atwell recently, how does he look and do you think there is any chance he is the 3 if Van misses the start of the season
Jourdan Rodrigue
I think it’s a little more complicated than it looks on the surface though bc he wouldn’t just slide into the spot by any meansznModeratorfrom quoraJohn HutchesonThe US health care system has three grades:- Rich people who call $10m in cancer treatment “chump change” — Vampires.
- Middle income people, milked for premiums, and sometimes donor parts — Cash Cows.
- The rest — Soylent green.
znModeratorIt’s a 3-year extension worth $73.5M source said with $58.1M guaranteed 💰 https://t.co/FhwU6Q8v5o
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) July 31, 2022
znModeratorHappy birthday to the late great, Kevin Greene. He would have been 60 years old today. One of the most intense defensive players of all time pic.twitter.com/IQDvJPIF8M
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) July 31, 2022
znModerator.@AndrewWhitworth coachin' up the rook @LoganBruss at #RamsCamp. pic.twitter.com/C6rMKiFQlh
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) July 31, 2022
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinRams WR Van Jefferson, who is coming off knee surgery, did not practice. McVay: “We’re figuring that out right now, working through that.” Related to surgically-repaired knee? “l’ll have more information for you later, like I said, I don’t have anything right now.”.Ian Rapoport@RapSheet#Rams WR Van Jefferson will see a specialist on Monday for a knee issue that has been plaguing him, source said. Jefferson has been doing maintenance and faces the prospect of missing a few weeks. He’ll have more info following the appointment, including if he needs surgery.znModerator“I don’t like the Niners at all. They don’t like us.”
“No love at all towards them guys. I really dislike them.”
One more from @AaronDonald97, stating the obvious.
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znModeratorAustin Gayle@austingayle_Talked with Rams QB coach Zac Robinson a lot about Allen Robinson after practice today. The entire team (players and coaches) are fucking stoked to use him as creatively as possible and really feed him the ball. The hype is very much real.znModerator(ICYMI) Aaron Donald would not have returned if Sean McVay wasn't Rams HC: "I want to continue building my legacy with him"https://t.co/BkEMwD3HLn pic.twitter.com/r6hL9Kv5El
— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) July 31, 2022
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znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Sunday is a scheduled “de-load” day so team will mostly jog-through after two padded days. That means Matthew Stafford isn’t expected to throw; same with all of the other QBs per McVay.Stafford says his arm “is coming along, kind of right where I want to be” and that he’s just trying to gain back some of the reps he lost in the spring.
Sean McVay says team is working on figuring out an unknown situation with Van Jefferson; declined to say whether it involved Jefferson’s previous knee injury. Says team is working through it.
Jefferson did not practice today, FWIW, from what I saw.
Ernest Jones calls working with Bobby Wagner “the highlight of my career so far.” Adds,
“He is everything.”
Lots of crowd love for Bobby Wagner here today. ILBs are doing movement/ball drills and the crowd swells each time he moves toward the sideline.
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how has 9 looked so far overall? Mostly sharp or still noticeable working through his limited snaps?
Jourdan Rodrigue
I think largely he has looked in control whereas you could tell he was learning last year. He likes to experiment with placement this time of year and I think that’s a good thing (also fun to watch). But you can at times tell he is shaking off rust. All of this seems on track to me.He didn’t throw all spring – that’s when he’d usually test out his windows. He has to do it now!
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Rams DL coach Eric Henderson asked his guys to wear bright gloves today because when they do film study the coaches and players can better track the finer details of their hand placement in drills and beyond. Small detail, possibly big impact. pic.twitter.com/YXXH6Da4oI
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) July 30, 2022
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znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsJoe Noteboom said he (and other Rams OL) worked out at Andrew Whitworth’s home gym this offseason, so he saw him often. “He still cares about the team. He still cares about us and us doing well, and he’s always open to any questions. It’s still really great to have him around.”znModerator
znModerator.@kdemoff says the Rams are wearing the white modern throwbacks against the Bills, and those jerseys will be the primary away jersey all season! @JourdanRodrigue @Rich_Hammond pic.twitter.com/wYAggULjJ0
— Sean Gerber (@MrSeanGerber) July 30, 2022
znModeratorI don’t think there has ever been this many really good QBs in the league at the same time.
Yeah there’s something to that isn’t there.
Even though they lost a few in recent years too. Going back to 2020: Eli, Brees, Roethlisberger, Luck, Rivers. Along with some “perpetual #2s who started sometimes” like McCown, Fitzpatrick, and Smith.
znModeratorRamsey has seen Wagner and Jones work together in the early portions of training camp, as well as some OTA sessions this spring, and he expects big things out of this pairing.
On Tuesday, Ramsey tweeted that Wagner and Jones are “about to have a special year.”
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These 2 right here about to have a special year! 🤟🏾 https://t.co/omay5RW6MN
— Jalen Ramsey (@jalenramsey) July 26, 2022
znModeratorRamsfan1971
This is the one training camp day I am able to attend this year. It was a Beautiful day in Irvine. Perfect weather for players and fans. I have attended each training camp since our beloved Rams returned. Oh my how things have changed! The first year back, there were not that many fans that attended TC during the week. There were a bunch of old timer Rams fans those first couple of years. Today, the place was packed around the fields as well as in the Rams Experience area. There were numerous families and young people all sporting Rams gear. Kupp and Donald were easily the most common jerseys being worn. So, what did I notice at todays practice. First overall impression after the practice ended, was that our Rams are a complete team with lots of talent at almost every position except a few positions.
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DL- Any time you have Donald on the line, you have a dominant line. Donald, Gaines and Robinson looked great. Donald would have broken Wolford on one of his long completions, if he was able to hit the qb. He came clean and veered off. Gaines got an INT off a tipped pass in the red zone. Backups held their own, but no-one stood out to me.
LB- Wagner is already taking control of getting everyone in the right position. He and Jones were communicating well. Wagner made a few stops in the run game. Floyd, Hollins, Garrett, and Lewis all looked good and got pressure. If outside guys can get pressure, this is a strong position.
DBs- Wow! This looks like a very deep position. I was happy to see Scott with the first team. He was huge in the playoffs. Dacobie Durant made two impressive INTs. One looked like a sure completion to Kupp and Durant dove in front of him for the INT. Kendrick was solid also. There is a lot of talent on this team with Safeties and Corners.
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Qbs- Given that he is still working on timing with his receivers, Stafford looked good. His arm looked strong. He made a few 20-30 yard throws. He attempted one long deep throw to Robinson that was overthrown. Kupp got most of his attempts. Wolford took second team reps. He played well the second half of practice. I must say, Wolford is my biggest concern for this team. His size and arm strength are lacking. McVay must love his leadership since he does not bring in any young arms. If Stafford has to miss a few games for any reason, Wolford does not look like he can carry us for a few games.
Rbs- Cam and Henderson look strong as usual. I hope we find more depth in case one of those two get hurt. A few good runs of 4-5 yards. I hope our rookie pick recovers soon.
Wrs- Very strong position. Kupp, Robinson, and Jefferson looked great. All three had a few catches. Surprise- Atwell had a couple of catches with good separation. Atwell and Powell look like they are the exact same size. Both look like they would break if a Lb had a clean hit.
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Very strong position! Higbee, Blanton, Bryce, and Harris looked great today. All of them made catches today in scrimmage against D.OL- Shelton started at rg today. He and Allen both look small at 300 lbs. Bruss played with 2nd team. Did well against 2nd team DL. Did not do as well against 1st team DL. I do believe they will gel by the time the season starts. I hope Bruss gets up to speed fast. 2 guys at just 300 lbs will not hold against the giant nose tackles.
Good to see Kupp working after practice on catching ball with two hands. Ramsey was putting in the work to get back. Gay hit a few Fgs from 35 to 45. Did not see him miss one. I did not see a huge difference between the new punters.
World Champs look like we have a very deep team. Hopefully we are just as motivated to win another championship. Every TC, I walk away with a number of concerns. Did not get that this year. Let’s stay healthy and get another one! I look forward to reading others views today and future camp days.
znModeratorSafety Jordan Fuller said Durant impressed him early, and the cornerback’s play has continued to ascend.
“I knew he was a special talent, and I knew what he was capable of,” Fuller said Friday. “He’s not even scratching the surface of what he could be.”
Durant has made plays from the hybrid “star” position, which requires skills to play as an inside and outside cornerback.
Ramsey, a three-time All-Pro, has redefined the position but other cornerbacks are being groomed for the role.
“There’s a lot of nuances that we ask of that ‘star’ position, and he’s getting more comfortable every day,” McVay said of Durant.
znModeratorVeteranRamFan
Camp was supposed to open at 11 and since I’m only 15 minutes away, I left work at 10:30 thinking its early on a workday. There won’t be many people there. WRONG! Packed house! And parking was a pain too until @bubbaram told me about his parking lot. Using that one tomorrow.
Weather was nice. Sunny, mid eighties with a cool breeze blowing. Bubba had some choice seats picked out, but the staff said he had to move because those were reserved. So, he did and then the staff changed their mind and opened the section back up. Too late for us so we had to sit in the end zone. Good view from there!
When the Rams took the field as a team, the crowd erupted into cheers! When ever a position group was done with drills and moved to another section of the field, the crowd cheered! What a great feeling to be associated with such a class organization and Super Bowl champs too! Couldn’t have said that for a long time.
Let’s talk about some of the players. I’ll just shoot from the hip from what I recall.
#14 DeCobie Durant. Dude was everywhere! Flying around like he was superman! You already know he had two interceptions but unless someone has them filmed and posted on twitter, you have no idea how difficult those plays were. The throws the QB were good throws! No tipped balls, no one in their face. The receivers were also open, but Durant just put himself out there, closed the gap and dove in front to intercept. A true thing of beauty!
#6 Derian Kendrick. I wanted to make a point to focus on him, but he seemed to have got lost in the shuffle to me. I may be wrong; everyone is talking about him so he must be doing something right. The only time I noticed him was during passing drills and he failed to catch a ball thrown out in front of him. No big deal, we all have moments, but it just seemed…. odd, I guess? I’ll try and watch him closer in the coming days.
#44 Danial Hardy. Stud. Fast! Has balance, control. Chased Wolford out of the pocket and caused an incompletion, more than once. I like this guy. Let’s keep an eye on him.
#60 Bruss. Played at right guard mostly with the 2’s but did get some reps with the 1’s. He anchors well. Seems to have good leverage and good use of his hands. Didn’t get beat. Don’t recall the defender going against him though. In this short practice, I felt he did better than Shelton. The kid, to me, is ready to start.
#49 Rodger Carter. He is a big TE! Huge legs! Was practicing some long snaps at the beginning. I imagine he is looking for a role to play. Don’t think he sticks.
#1 Robinson. He is a player. A professional. He appeared to be giving it his all on every play, regardless of where he fell in the QB’s progression. Caught a couple of balls, curl patterns then turned it up field with some speed! This is a great signing. Only problem, there are only so many balls to go around and we seem to be loaded with WR.
#15 Atwell. Small, yes. Quick, yes. Fast, hard to tell from our vantage point. It seems I have a series of photos with him breaking away from a DB so he must have something going for him. I told Bubba that when he isn’t the primary receiver, I see him not being as crisp in his cuts. I guess I feel you should practice how you play. His hands are good! I just don’t see what the FO saw in him.
#30 Calais. He was catching some balls out of the backfield and look good doing it! Sure hands, good cuts, burst of speed. Be nice to have him fill two roles for us.
znModeratorRams threw "everything" at Allen Robinson II, and he's picking it up quickly https://t.co/bW9zxR2BJY
— Stu Jackson (@StuJRams) July 29, 2022
znModeratorbubbaramfan
Wow! TC is finally happening! Got there early and got decent seat in the south endzone. VeteranRamFan showed up not to long after. We had our customary beer and waited for practice to start. Used a voice recorder so I’m just going to play it back and write here what went down and some thoughts as the practice progressed.
First in front of us they practiced punt drills, then 1st team O and D looked to be doing walk through, play installation. 1st OL of Noteboom, Edwards, Allen, Shelton LG, Havenstien. Defense AD, Gaines, Robinson, Jones, Wagner, Floyd, Hollins, Rapp, Scott, Ramsey, Long. Note that Ramsey only was on the field for these walk throughs, the rest of the time he was like a coach on the sideline.
2nd team O vs 1st team D Aleric Jackson took most snaps at LT, Anchrum at LG. Shelton, Kolone and Brewer all took snaps at C today. Bruss and Shelton took turns with 1st and 2nd team at LG. Bobby Evans took the majority of snaps 2nd team RT, though Anchrum did get in a few. 2nd team D was harder to see who was in. Guys that stood out were Hardy, who has speed and high motor and Durant who got couple of pass breakups and two INT’s. Hill and Long seemed to be alternating, Rochelle back and forth 1st and 2nd team. I really liked what I saw of the new guys.
Now Acuri at. LT, Snyder C, Brewer RT. Look like everyone on OL is going to get in. Mx Pircher got snaps at LT and RT.
Next they broke up into their position groups with db’s closest. Drilling backpedling, change of direction, etc.
Stafford and 1st team vs 1st D several scrimmage snaps. short pass to Robinson, run up middle by Akers, pass to Upp for 10. No hard contact, Akers looking good as he takes a short screen pass. I could see from my vantage who was on D, Wolford now out there with Funk RB, Skow, Harris Tutu A jackson LT, Anchrum LG, shelton C, Brewer RG, Bobby Evans RT. Wolford the Hopkins over the middle, Powell several snpas from the slot, Funk with a screen for 15.
1st team back in, Henderson run up the middle. Stafford gets sacked by Hardy. Hardy playing hard. Brewer some snaps at LG, Henderson with couple nice runs.
No deep passed so far. Durrant pass breakup to Robinson.Redzone drills, Higbee nice catch. Durrant with INT. Terrell Lewis with good pressure, beat Havenstien.
Kicking team now out, Matt Gay right on, drilling FG’s.
Still 15 min odd of practice to go I had enough and headed to the car.
Good practice. Good intensity. Some of what I took away from today’s practice. Atwell looked to have put on some weight, especially on his upper body. He was fast out there but his route running looked a little shabby. Kupp also looked to have muscled up. Brian allen looked bigger, had a huge brace on his right leg. Stafford looked good, but didn;t throw anything over 15 yds.
Standout players for today: Durant is a player. 2 picks and a breakup today. I really liked what I saw from him and the other DB’s. Hardy was in the backfield a lot guy is fast and turns the corner quick. T Lewis looks like he’s trusting his knee.
Looking forward to tomorrows practice. Going to try and get sideline seats. Was hard to see the numbers on guys.
Rams are going to repeat.
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