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znModeratorThe Rams are facing a lot of questions this offseason, chief among them: Sean McVay's looming decision https://t.co/7qQAjflxhl
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) January 12, 2023
znModeratorRams DC Raheem Morris will interview with the Colts on Friday, per source. Here, for Colts and Broncos fans, is a story Raheem and I did last year on his Super Bowl gameplan: https://t.co/GxttBhpfnh https://t.co/U7W0TBLtOc
— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) January 12, 2023
znModeratorI have often wondered why? Why do they consciously avoid talking about injuries and their impact? I mean it is sooo obvious its a media policy.
Well I think it’s more divided than that. I’ve seen people talk about it, including broadcasters during games. But then some people for some reason have no clue how to factor it in. That’s especially true of OL injuries. I’ve poked at some media stars on twitter who commented on the Rams without accounting for the OL injuries. It’s always mystifying to me. I don’t get that kind of reasoning or the lack of it.
January 12, 2023 at 3:14 pm in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #142544
znModeratorThis is from the wikipedia entry on the Monty Python song, “Always Look On the Bright Side of Life,” which of course is from the ending bit from Life of Brian.
The song touched a chord with the British trait of stoicism and the “stiff upper lip” in the face of disaster, and became immensely popular. When the destroyer HMS Sheffield was struck by an Exocet cruise missile on 4 May 1982 in the Falklands War, her crew sang it while waiting to be rescued from their sinking ship,<sup id=”cite_ref-9″ class=”reference”>[9]</sup> as did the crew of HMS Coventry,<sup id=”cite_ref-10″ class=”reference”>[10]</sup> with the line from the song “Worse things happen at sea, you know” being especially ironic.
znModeratorHonolulu Blues@HonoluluBlues_Goff was the second most blitzed (166) QB in the league, yet the second least sacked (22) in 16 games.
znModeratorLouis Riddick@LRiddickESPNWe hear a lot about head coaching candidates at this time of year and their qualifications, based primarily off of statistical performance. I’ll say, firsthand, nobody I had the chance to talk to this year impressed me more, from A to Z, than #Broncos DC Ejiro Evero.…Ejiro Evero
2017 36 NFL Los Angeles Rams Safeties 2018 37 NFL Los Angeles Rams Safeties 2019 38 NFL Los Angeles Rams Safeties 2020 39 NFL Los Angeles Rams Safeties 2021 40 NFL Los Angeles Rams Def. Passing Game Coordinator/Secondary 2022 41 NFL Denver Broncos Defensive Coordinator
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueRams ILB Bobby Wagner is a 2022 NFL Butkus Award finalist, which is voted on by coaches, scouts and journalists. The collegiate and high school winners have already been selected.
znModeratorNFL Rumors@nflrumsSeveral NFL people believes if the Los Angeles Chargers will part ways with HC Brandon Staley if he loses vs the Jaguars. Sean Payton could be a big piece of the equation.
znModeratorTop 5 Offensive Plays Of 2022 | Rams Season Recap
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Rams Ex Andrew Whitworth on Sean McVay Rumors: ‘I’d Be Shocked’
Former Los Angeles Rams offensive tackle Andrew Whitworth helped shed some light on Sean McVay’s retirement rumors.https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/los-angeles-rams-sean-mcvay-retirement-rumors-andrew-whitworth
Los Angeles Rams coach Sean McVay has confirmed that he’s not done coaching.
However, his status for next season remains unconfirmed and “in limbo” as of now, as rumors of a potential transition to the broadcast booth have been swirling since the Rams won the Super Bowl last year.
Former Rams offensive tackle Andrew Whitworth developed a strong relationship with McVay before retiring himself after winning a ring to take his talents to TV.
He made an appearance Tuesday on “The Rich Eisen Show” and discussed in detail his experiences with McVay. Whitworth admitted he’d be “shocked” regarding McVay’s retirement rumors, but not in a way that should scare Rams fans.
“I’d be shocked to see him not leading a group of men, playing this game that he loves so much,” Whitworth said. “It’s just hard for me to imagine him not leading rooms.”
The Rams were the near definition of first-to-worst this season. With a 5-12 record, LA secured the most losses by a defending champion in league history.
Amid numerous injuries to star players and the offensive line, it clearly was a year of adversity for McVay and company.
“It was a tough year for that entire organization,” Whitworth said. “It was tough on him, it was tough and everyone in that building.”
But should he decide to take his career to the broadcast booth, Whitworth, like many others, feels McVay would kill it due to the leadership traits he’s displayed since arriving to LA.
“He will absolutely be exceptional at that, he will be unbelievable,” Whitworth said. ” … One of the most impressive things about him when he took the job is his ability to capture a room and lead a group of people, I thought was just so rare.”
The Rams now have an offseason of uncertainty ahead of them, with McVay at the center of it all.
znModerator‘You won too fast too soon’: NFL coaches on Sean McVay, burnout, pressure of winning
Sam Farmer
https://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/story/2023-01-11/sean-mcvay-rams-coaching-burnout
The season is over for the Rams, but the hand-wringing is heading into overtime.
What will Sean McVay do? Will he continue to coach the team? Will he take a TV job? How about a leave of absence on a beach in St. Somewhere?
Whatever McVay decides — and that could come any day — there’s a community of former NFL coaches, some of them in the Hall of Fame, who are all too familiar with the pressures of the job. They understand the notion of burnout, even among those with incredibly high-paying and coveted positions.
“There’s only a few Bill Belichicks or Andy Reids out there,” said Dick Vermeil, citing two of the league’s longest-tenured coaches. “There’s only a few Don Shulas or Bud Grants around. I think coach McVay has proven he’s in that talent level. He’s a potential Hall of Fame coach. But if he doesn’t have that personality make-up, no fault of his own, then that may not happen.”
Vermeil gets it. He was Philadelphia’s head coach from 1976-82 and took the Eagles to the Super Bowl. But then he left for a TV job — doubling his $75,000 salary — and didn’t return to coaching until taking over the St. Louis Rams in 1997. There, he won a Super Bowl with Kurt Warner and the “Greatest Show on Turf,” before closing out his career as coach of the Kansas City Chiefs from 2001-05.
He said he retired from coaching the first time because the euphoria of winning had evaporated. He only was relieved when his team won, depressed when it lost.
“The loss hurt far more emotionally than the win affected you positively,” said Vermeil, 86, enshrined in Canton last summer. “I found myself thinking about what I should have done last week to win when I should have been thinking about what I had to do to win next week.”
The idea of NFL coaching burnout isn’t going to elicit a lot of sympathy from the public. These coaches aren’t saving lives, and they can make as much in one season as five teachers can earn in their entire careers. Nonetheless, coaching burnout does happen and the topic is particularly relevant to the Rams, who have enjoyed tremendous success with McVay at the helm.
Tony Dungy played for and later worked as an assistant under legendary Pittsburgh Steelers coach Chuck Noll, who oversaw that organization for 23 years. Instead of being an old-school, sleep-in-the-office coach, Noll was ahead of his time in supporting a work-life balance for people in the organization. Those coaches left work early once a week to play golf and frequently had family days at team headquarters.
“One of the first things coach Noll told us when I was a rookie player was, `Do not make football your whole life. If you do, you’re going to be disappointed when you leave the game,’ ” said Dungy, inducted in the Hall of Fame in 2016. “He told us that as players, and I watched him demonstrate that for the 10 years that I was there.
“I worked at some other places where it wasn’t necessarily like that and where guys thought, `I have to make sure everything goes perfectly.’ If you take that approach, it can get to you right away. Because there are a lot of things to manage and oversee. If you have to be cognizant of everything, and everything happens to come across your desk, it can wear you down and wear you out.”
Winning has always been the bottom line for NFL coaches. That’s nothing new. But with the popularity of the league, round-the-clock news coverage, fantasy football and everyone feeling like an expert, the spotlight on coaches has never been brighter.
“It’s almost unfair today to compare the longevity and stamina of [the coaches from 30 to 40 years ago] with what the job is today,” Vermeil said. “Because the evaluation process has gotten so intense, so magnified. It’s like comparing a 1980 Cadillac with a 2023 Cadillac. They all move forward but the technology and everything within it is totally different. … I think it’s tougher today on coaches.”
McVay, hired at 30 in 2017, was the youngest head coach in NFL history and remains the youngest of the 32 now employed. He got to the Super Bowl in his second season, and his team won it all in February, hoisting the Lombardi Trophy at SoFi Stadium, no less. He inherited a 4-12 team that ranked 32nd in scoring, and flipped that in his inaugural season when the Rams were No. 1 in that department.
“I only sat down and visited with coach McVay one time,” Vermeil said. “The only thing I can remember saying to him was, `You won too fast too soon.’ Every team I took over had been losing, especially the Eagles and Rams. Anything you did — make a first down and they applauded you.
“But when you start out as fast as coach McVay has, it makes every year tougher. Even after you win it all last year. Geez. What do you do to prove that you still have the ability to do it? It’s tough.”
This season’s Rams took a dramatic plunge from last season’s dizzying heights, finishing 5-12.
“It isn’t the workload,” said Rick Neuheisel, a former college head coach and offensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens. “You get up in the morning, you come into work but you’re never looking at the clock. Ever. You’re just doing what you love to do.
“The problem is the pressure of winning, and the weight that it puts on you when you’re unsuccessful. For Sean McVay to go through the year he went through, after the euphoria of the year before, is a feeling like burnout. He’s never gone down a road where it’s been this exasperating.”
Even before and in the immediate aftermath of the Super Bowl win, there was rampant speculation McVay might leave for a TV job. This season there was a revolving door of Rams offensive linemen, almost never the same group from week to week, and an injury list that included the club’s biggest stars: quarterback Matthew Stafford, receiver Cooper Kupp and defensive tackle Aaron Donald.
“You know all that next-man-up stuff? That’s just coach-speak,” said Steve Mariucci, former coach of San Francisco and Detroit, speaking generally about losing star players. “That’s like false bravado sometimes. The next man up isn’t as good as the guy he follows, OK? That’s the reality of it. When you’ve got a lot of next-men-up, you’re going to get your butt kicked. Let’s face it. Let’s talk real here.”
And no matter how compelling a coach might be in talking to his players, at some point those messages lose their edge.
Said Mariucci: “When I got hired by the Niners, [team president] Carmen Policy says, `Coach, you’re not going to be here forever. Bill [Walsh] wasn’t here forever. George [Seifert] wasn’t here forever. There’s going to be a shelf life for every coach. That’s how it works in this league. Enjoy it while you can. It’s going to be the ride of your life.’
“He was very forthright in knowing full well that in his mind the message gets a little boring or stale and it needs to come from somebody new every now and then. Bill lasted 10 years, George lasted eight and I was six. Not everybody is Bill Belichick or Mike Tomlin or Pete Carroll. That’s the exception to the rule.”
McVay isn’t tipping his hand. He wants time to mull his future, and the Rams want to give him that. There are strong indications they are willing to give him a leave of absence, a sabbatical to reboot, but they want him back when he’s ready to return. They don’t want to coach against him.
And there’s no denying the appeal of TV for him. He only needs to look at former New Orleans coach Sean Payton, who worked as a studio analyst for Fox this season and whose coaching stock has exploded. He’s the most coveted coaching candidate out there.
Said McVay of the network interest: “It’s flattering. These are always going to be things that you anticipate and expect that are going to come up, because I haven’t run away from the fact that down the line, or whenever that is, that’s something I’ve been interested in.”
Dungy took a job as an NBC studio analyst after retiring from coaching at 53. He wasn’t conflicted about leaving coaching; he was ready to go. He loves working in TV, but the job doesn’t tick the same boxes that coaching did.
“It’s not the same thing,” he said. “You are involved in the game. You do get to see your buddies. You do get to talk. You get to think about strategy and all those kinds of things. But it’s not the same thrill as bringing an organization together, getting everybody going in the same direction, chasing that one goal and knowing at the end of the year that there’s only one of us that’s going to achieve it and 31 that are going to come up a little bit short but try again next year.
“The satisfaction you get out of molding a team and taking them to the playoffs, winning playoff games. TV is great, it’s fun, but it’s not that.”
Ultimately, for Vermeil, the allure of coaching proved too strong. He had to come back.
“You miss being the king,” he said. “You miss being the boss. You miss making the decisions. The only thing you don’t miss is the pressure.”
znModeratorI will admit I just watched his closing press conference. But this part most stuck out to me. This dude isn’t burned out and I wish we would stop saying that. He’s clearly got some personal stuff going on and needs to make sure he’s all in on football before committing again. pic.twitter.com/UDKmaEjrvf
— Wes (@Sleyson80) January 10, 2023
znModeratorAlaric Jackson got brutally honest about the Rams' O-line on Twitter last night, sharing his unfiltered thoughts about who should start and who should come off the bench 👀 https://t.co/M6pxdppmHT
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) January 11, 2023
znModeratorMichael Silver@MikeSilverIf I’m a team targeting Derek Carr, I’m thinking hard about talking to Greg Olson (currently with the Rams, in limbo like the rest of the staff). Olson was Carr’s OC on two separate occasions with the Raiders, including last season, which went really well despite the turmoil…
znModeratorJust a heads up to everyone. I know many people don’t check the board daily, so I want to remind everyone now that Friday is the day to remove our hats in honor of a long-loved friend of ours.
Thanks for that.
znModeratorFrom quora
A fisherman spotted her just east of the Faralon Islands (outside the Golden Gate) and radioed for help. Within a few hours, the rescue team arrived and determined that she was so badly off, the only way to save her was to dive in and untangle her…. a very dangerous proposition. One slap of the tail could kill a rescuer.
They worked for hours with curved knives and eventually freed her. When she was free, the divers say she swam in what seemed like joyous circles. She then came back to each and every diver, one at a time, nudged them, and pushed gently, thanking them. Some said it was the most incredibly beautiful experience of their lives.
The guy who cut the rope out of her mouth says her eye was following him the whole time, and he will never be the same.
May you be so fortunate to be surrounded by people who will help you get untangled from the things that are binding you.
And, may you always know the joy of giving and receiving gratitude
znModeratorSome believe Jalen Ramsey had a "down year" in 2022. His PFF grade was higher this year than in 2021, and he was still the 3rd-best CB in the NFL, per PFF https://t.co/cqRgSB5RcL
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) January 10, 2023
znModeratorIn the first 10 games, Leonard Floyd had 19 pressures. In the last 7 games, he had 35, which was tied for the 5th-most of any player from Week 12-18 https://t.co/m5twH8L89k
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) January 10, 2023
znModeratorSeveral Rams players were asked about Sean McVay's looming decision during Monday's open locker room, and they all just want what's best for him.
Here's what they're saying about the matter https://t.co/SOxlFWSrJ3
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) January 10, 2023
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsRams QB Matthew Stafford reiterated he isn’t retiring. Said he feels “really confident” he’ll be ready to go in 2023 and has full support from his family.
znModeratorCouple of important Rams news items in here. Jalen Ramsey expects to get surgery, Cooper Kupp's rehab is on track and there's a key health checkpoint coming up for Alaric Jackson: https://t.co/KNSlNZrRnk
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) January 10, 2023
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueObviously contingency plan at OC for the Rams will be predicated on whatever Sean McVay decides to do. If McVay stays, internal candidates for role include Thomas Brown and Zac Robinson, and externally had even heard about some interest in a veteran coach such as Frank Reich. twitter.com/jourdanrodrigu…
znModeratorJAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGENJanuary 10, 2023 at 9:39 am in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #142508
znModeratorfrom quora..[zn note: we know all this but good stories are good stories].How were black American soldiers treated by British people during World War II?.Generally very well. There was some of what we would now see as racism but it was different from racism in the US. A black soldier (British Caribbean I think) reported that in some rural villages the uneducated white girls genuinely believed that black people were born with tails which had to be amputated at birth – but that just meant that when he slow-danced with white girls and held them close, he would sometimes feel a surreptitious hand groping his arse to see if he had a stump (that was their excuse, anyway)..In many areas black troops were the first American troops to arrive, and when white American troops came later and started treating their black countrymen as second class citizens most people here were disgusted. There was a joke going around that “I like the Yanks, but I can’t say the same for those white chaps they brought with them”, and when senior US officers tried to insist that British pubs should have a colour bar, some pubs responded by banning white Americans. A white American officer tried to bully a black British-Caribbean soldier the way he expected to bully black Americans back home, and the soldier said “I’m British: nobody talks to me like that” and punched him..[It seems to me that that was always the biggest difference between racism in the US and UK. There were plenty of racists here too, but here if a racist threatened you with violence or made a serious attempt to bully you you were allowed to whack them, and so long as you didn’t get too carried away the courts would back you..I’ve always remember an incident I must have read about nearly 50 years ago, where a large group of white US soldiers chased a smaller group of black US soldiers down the road and round the corner into the arms of a group of Seaforth Highlanders coming the other way, who promptly waded in on the side of the black guys.
znModeratorBT you don’t understand the purpose of the NFL. The NFL is to get us, ordinary fans, to accept a corporate dominated world of drudgery. Rollerball, 1975. So the question is how to do THAT better.
1. Play twice a week for 24 weeks. 48 games. In the end, matches will be exhausted struggles just to stay on the field.
2. Players have to play with injuries.
3. Not only that, but, if you are injured, your salary goes straight to the insurance firms.
4. Players can’t celebrate plays. Instead, whenever they excel in some way, they must yell enthusiastically that “I am glad my efforts serve the system.”
5. Instead of standing for the national anthem, before games, players are to watch jumbotron images of Chinese national leaders while they chant hatefully that “east asia has always been the enemy!”
January 9, 2023 at 5:50 pm in reply to: mass shootings & guns … including Trump getting shot at #142502
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znModeratorBill Barnwell@billbarnwellSo, by snap-weighted age, the Saints were the oldest team in football this season. Their average snap came from a player 28.1 years old.Oldest: NO, TB, LAR, NE, DENYoungest: DET, CAR, NYG, CLE, CHI
znModeratorAri Meirov@MySportsUpdate@AdamSchefter. They signed him to an extension through 2027 last offseason..Howard Balzer@HBalzer721Firing of Kliff Kingsbury totally in character for the way the Bidwills have made coach decisions. Team shows progress, then takes a step back. Gone. Third-winningest coach in club history, Don Coryell, had only 42 victories and no coach ever has lasted more than six seasons. -
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