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znModeratorThe Rams proposed to make roughing the passer penalty reviewable, but owners didn't approve it
Booooo https://t.co/HbzEEMfebx
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 28, 2023
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Sean McVay this AM commenting on how well Matthew Stafford is doing – reiterates he will be able to have a full offseason and adds he feels a “renewed sense of urgency” from Stafford and others, especially guys who were hurt. Stafford a full go this spring.
znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothersThe Rams are currently allotted the following four compensatory picks for the 2024 draft, per @Jason_OTC• Matt Gay (6th round)• Baker Mayfield (6th round)• Nick Scott (7th round)• Greg Gaines (7th round)
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PHOENIX — Rams general manager Les Snead would argue the team has often been “quiet” this time of year because its dependency on compensatory draft picks has meant allowing multiple players (often initially drafted in middle or later rounds) to depart in free agency.
Of course, this offseason carries a slightly different context from many of the Rams’ previous ones.
“We’re the ‘boring’ Rams this year,” Snead said with a half grin and a heavy dose of sarcasm, referring to the team’s first few months of 2023.
After an injury-plagued 5-12 season in 2022 that marked the worst record of the Sean McVay era and worst ever by a defending Super Bowl champion, the Rams released veterans Leonard Floyd and Bobby Wagner and several other players departed in free agency (including both starting safeties, at least one starting defensive lineman and all of their specialists). They traded star cornerback Jalen Ramsey. Snead even quipped that his teenage kids noted despair from the fans in online forums when the Vikings scooped up kickoff returner Brandon Powell.
The moves they did make to retain or acquire talent have not been flashy. Interior offensive lineman Coleman Shelton was re-signed to a team-friendly deal earlier this month. Monday, reserve defensive lineman Marquise Copeland signed a one-year deal instead of the Rams’ tendering him as an exclusive rights free agent. They have restructured offensive lineman Joe Noteboom, vice president of football administration Tony Pastoors said Monday, and center Brian Allen accepted a restructured deal.
Yet chief operating officer Kevin Demoff recently penned an open letter to season ticket holders that outlined a vision for a Rams team that expects to contend for the playoffs — a sentiment he doubled down on in comments Monday evening at the NFL’s annual meetings at the Biltmore Resort and Spa.
What is the reality? The Rams are somewhere at the beginning of a new window, yet borrowing elements of previous models and patterns, enabled by the luxury of continuity they have experienced as a group: Snead, McVay, Demoff, Pastoors.
For example, Snead brought up the 2019-20 season as an example of waiting out a group of linemen to develop with some continuity … and as the last time “the narrative” was that the Rams were “boring” and “quiet.” The Rams may do the same thing with their linemen this year, though Snead didn’t rule out adding to their group via the draft.
More parallels: Pastoors cited more pressure “probably” getting put on Snead and his crew of scouts and draft analysts this offseason, citing a 2017 class that featured several immediate contributors. Pastoors also hearkened back to the McVay of 2017 — who was then a 30-year-old whom nobody really expected to win as many games as fast as he did.
“When he arrived … everyone thought we were gonna be terrible. I can honestly tell you, Sean did not. He kept walking around like, ‘We’re gonna be fine,’” Pastoors said. “I think that’s his mindset right now. He feels really good about the coaches he brought in. I think he feels really good about some of the core pieces we have.
“It’s just, there are more unknowns right now.”
Pastoors expects between $55 million and $65 million in salary-cap space in 2024, achieved by “taking on pain” (the angst of almost $53 million in dead money all at once in 2023) and staying disciplined in their spending this season. They also have a first-round pick in 2024 (and for the first time since 2016), though Snead teased they could package that pick in various ways.
Quips and sarcasm aside, all representatives of the Rams in Phoenix this week have expressed what seems like genuine optimism about what they can accomplish in 2023. That there are low expectations from the public about them because of what happened in 2022 may help. Several times this offseason, McVay has referenced “getting back to 2017,” when nobody quite knew what to make of the Rams and they could outscore opponents even as they eventually made big changes to their defense through 2019 and 2020 to create a group of players they have mostly parted from.
Whether their optimism becomes reality won’t become clear until months from now. The Rams will first turn to the draft, then continue to plug remaining holes with cheap veteran acquisitions — moving into more of a “cost control” complement to the three major contracts on their roster: quarterback Matthew Stafford, receiver Cooper Kupp and defensive tackle Aaron Donald.
“As Tony just chatted with y’all, there has definitely been intent to engineer a healthier, more sustainable cap situation so that when we do get to a moment where we think, ‘OK, let’s press the gas again’, you have the capability to do it,” Snead said.
“So, this year is quiet intentionally.”
Further updates from Snead and Pastoors, and more team and league sources from the first couple of days in Phoenix:
• The Rams traded Ramsey to the Dolphins earlier this month for a 2023 third-round pick and tight end Hunter Long. As they, and Ramsey/his representation openly discussed trade considerations for weeks prior to the move, Miami emerged as the preferred destination (and had expressed early interest in making the move).
“In a nutshell, we were going to have to get under the cap — engineer a healthier cap situation,” said Snead, who added that even at last season’s trade deadline they had gotten calls inquiring as to whether the Rams would consider moving Ramsey.
“We knew he might be someone you didn’t just have to release, you can (get back) some draft capital. With that being said, working with Jalen, he had places he would rather go.
“I think all teams, when they make a trade like that, would like (to have) the player be jacked to go. … So we did allow teams to connect with Jalen. At that point, tried to engineer a win-win situation.”
• Stafford has a clean bill of health heading into the offseason, Pastoors said, after missing most of last spring and summer with an elbow injury. Stafford couldn’t throw until late into training camp, but Pastoors said he is “ready to go, gonna be part of the offseason.” The Rams recently picked up the option on his contract, which already contained language that essentially guaranteed his 2023 and 2024 salaries early in the league year. Picking up the option means the Rams could prorate some of that total as if it were a bonus.
“We’ve committed,” Pastoors said. “He’s our quarterback.”
• Yes, the Rams are still monitoring the situation with receiver Odell Beckham Jr., who was a brief (though important) member of their Super Bowl team but who also has spent the last year recovering from ACL surgery.
Snead said the team is “definitely” discussing Beckham, however, “I think Odell is going to have to determine where he wants his next chapter to be.”
The Rams have outlined what they are willing/able to contractually do where Beckham is concerned, but there doesn’t seem to be a sense of urgency at this point in the calendar year and Beckham will also continue to evaluate his options.
• The Rams are still playing out the idea of trading receiver Allen Robinson, who they signed last spring to a three-year, $46.5 million deal. Robinson’s role didn’t manifest the way the group initially envisioned when they recruited him in free agency, as part of a rapid pivot after losing out on Von Miller (who signed with the Bills). As free agency began, the Rams granted Robinson permission to seek a trade. At that time, team and league sources said that the Rams would be willing to take on part of Robinson’s $15.2 million in guaranteed salary dependent on the pick exchange an acquiring team would be willing to offer.
Those efforts are still ongoing, but the Rams haven’t ruled out Robinson remaining part of their offense in 2023. Robinson’s role in the offense would have to be schematically different if he stays — more versatile, Snead indicated, instead of being the one-on-one player they initially believed Robinson would be similar to Beckham.
“We always say, ‘What are the superpowers of each player, how do we get the most out of them?’ ” Snead said. “Him and Cooper (Kupp), a lot of times you feel like him being in a role like Cooper could be the most beneficial. But are you going to take one or two off the field?
“Now, you have to figure out how you make that work. That would be on Sean and Mike (LaFleur, the Rams’ new offensive coordinator) to figure out how to make that work.”
• Snead confirmed that Long, who they acquired as part of the Ramsey trade, had been on their draft board around the same area in which the Dolphins selected him (No. 81 in 2021). Veteran tight end Tyler Higbee is entering the final year of his contract and backup Brycen Hopkins will be a free agent after 2023.
“He had some nice ball skills at (Boston College),” Snead said. “It was interesting when we were going through the trade. What we always try to do is look at players who are still on their rookie contract, that maybe — obviously you can’t go ask for their ‘best’ players on rookie contracts, they’re jacked to have them. But, OK, who had not played as much? Who did we have some affinity for in the past, would a change of scenery/situation help?”
March 27, 2023 at 10:08 pm in reply to: mass shootings & guns … including Trump getting shot at #143314
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znModeratorBobby Wagner called his Rams tenure a leavening experience, but he thought things would’ve gone differently than they did https://t.co/xElSYhTw21
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 27, 2023
znModeratorSarah Barshop@sarahbarshopRams GM Les Snead was asked whether signing Odell Beckham Jr. was a realistic possibility. “We’ve definitely discussed Odell,” Snead said. “So the answer would be yes.” What would it take? “I think Odell is going to have to determine where he wants his next chapter to be.”.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Rams GM Les Snead said today that the team has “definitely” kept Odell Beckham Jr. in their discussions (they have for the last year). They have outlined what they are willing to do contractually but the sense I get is all waiting to see what he eventually decides. Not sensinga huge amount of urgency as Beckham Jr. will also evaluate his options as the spring continues. “I think Odell is going to have to determine his next chapter,” said Snead. Rams have stayed in touch.
The Rams are also continuing to play out the Allen Robinson situation, after granting him permission to seek a trade. They’d work a sliding scale on taking on some salary correlating to any pick terms. If Robinson stays, Snead mentioned getting him more versatile opps earlier on.
znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothersHandful of Rams have signed a 1-year deal with a new team this offseason, including: Greg Gaines (Bucs), Baker Mayfield (Bucs) Brandon Powell (Vikes), David Edwards (Bills), Bobby Wagner (Seahawks), David Long (Raiders) and now Taylor Rapp (Bills).
znModeratorSean McVay often downplayed Matthew Stafford’s elbow injury last year, but now he’s saying “people forget what a big deal that was” and that the timetable for his return was different than the Rams anticipated https://t.co/UiajP4idGP
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 27, 2023
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znModeratorTurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimesRams re-sign Marquise Copeland to one-year deal,
znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakDTRWhen it comes to the CB position in this draft class, it’s actually not a bad year for the Rams to need a CB.
znModeratorRams' win total for 2023 is set at 7.5 games.
You taking the over or under? https://t.co/DWcZkyIJ4g
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 27, 2023
znModeratorFree-agent safety Taylor Rapp, the Rams’ 2019 second-round pick who visited New England during free agency, is signing a one-year deal with the Buffalo Bills, per source.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 27, 2023
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March 27, 2023 at 9:18 am in reply to: mass shootings & guns … including Trump getting shot at #143299
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znModeratorJess Piper@piper4missouriWho benefits from school vouchers? Most voucher users have never attended a public school — much less a failing school. Vouchers are government subsidies for students who already attend expensive private schools. It’s welfare for the well off.
znModeratorDo not underestimate Merrick Garland. The DOJ is doing a superb job here in Louisville, Breonna City, using it as a test case to clean up policing nationwide. He's not a showboat, does not rise to bait, just gets it done. https://t.co/etI6TeEOim
— DON'T GO BACK women warriors! Solidarity, sisters! (@authorpendragon) March 26, 2023
znModeratorDeSantis’ new 25-year-old speechwriter praised Nick Fuentes and agreed with the white nationalist when he said women “should have no authority over men” and that they “just really have no business in politics.” https://t.co/4rAoctCoim
— Mike Hixenbaugh (@Mike_Hixenbaugh) March 25, 2023
Peter Thiel the bankroller moreover thinks women should not vote *because we tend to think that the rich should be taxed and the poor helped*. Take this seriously. https://t.co/YwIlpChfDY
— DON'T GO BACK women warriors! Solidarity, sisters! (@authorpendragon) March 26, 2023
znModeratorCornell@gqscholarWagner on the market got 7 million. Rams were about to pay Wagner 11 million 2024, 10.5 in 2024, 11 in 2025. Rams realized they overpaid and tried to get Wagner to take less, so the rams corrected their mistake by cutting him..a portion of his 2024 salary became guaranteed if he remained on the rams past the 3rd day of the new season. Like JourdanRodrigue said, it’s about 2024.
znModeratorFormer Seahawks’ LB Bobby Wagner is returning to Seattle on a one-year, $7 million deal.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 25, 2023
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Bobby Wagner is returning to the Seahawks after one year with the Rams, signing a $7 million deal https://t.co/6muk6ItICI
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) March 25, 2023
znModeratorThere are a bunch of former Rams players who are still available as free agents if LA is interested in a reunion https://t.co/KEdHS2p2MC
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) March 25, 2023
znModeratorKevin Demoff sent a message to Rams fans today about the team’s plan amid a tough offseason. Goal is still to contend in 2023 but it’s clear they have their sights set on 2024 and beyond. https://t.co/Gt9jD84mtH
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 25, 2023
znModeratorOday Aboushi shared what it was like to play for Sean McVay last season, showing appreciation for how he handled adversity https://t.co/gpstjbnnhS
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) March 24, 2023
znModerator#Bills signed David Edwards today after his visit this week
— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) March 23, 2023
znModeratorRams lose another player in free agency, on verge of parting with entire 2019 draft class https://t.co/E4rTJnkseh
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) March 22, 2023
znModeratorRams Wire@TheRamsWireThe Bills are showing interest in David Edwards, who has started 45 games for the Rams
znModeratorFact: The Rams don't have a ton of cap space this year
Also fact: They can still sign just about any free agent they want.
They're not because it would come at the cost of reducing their cap space in future years, which they clearly don't want to do. https://t.co/mUKHU7cX6R
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 22, 2023
znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefterFormer Rams’ free-agent WR Brandon Powell reached agreement today a one-year deal with the Vikings, per source. Powell will be reuniting with former Rams’ OC and Vikings’ HC Kevin O’Connell.
znModeratorI’m not sure the Rams have ‘ever’ had a reporter as good as Rodrigue. I cant think of one that was better. w v
I feel exactly the same way. She’s a treasure. She brings her own wit and charm to her writing. In fact as a writer-per-se, strictly speaking, she has real gifts and an ear and a feel–she has chops. But at the same time she’s an actual real football geek. She has a flaw, though IMO it’s minor. She’s a bit of an access journalist, so tends to mirror inside perceptions sometimes instead of exposing them. On the entire Goff situation in 2020, for example, she tended to just portray it as Goff “not taking the next step.” Thirry, of all people (who no longer covers the Rams) decided to phone around to all the former offensive coaches who had been with the McVay Rams, and ask them about it. As a result she painted a much different picture of that situation than Rodrigue did, one I think that was much more illuminating. But no writer is perfect and sometimes exactly what we want is a picture of what the insiders are thinking (like now). Plus Rodrigue is an invested, enthusiastic communicator who actually uses twitter to very good effect. As a writer, she often has a way of saying “this is how it looks to me” and you just know as a dedicated Rams fan that how it looks to her has real meat to it, it’s not just impressions, it’s insights. And again no writer on the Rams has ever had the kind of absolutely geeked-out football knowledge she does. She’s a real student of the game, and a very advanced one. That she seems grounded, decent, and amiable as a person just adds to it all.
yup
Laconic.
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