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znModeratorIan Rapoport@RapSheet#Rams star WR Cooper Kupp is in Minnesota today visiting with a noted body specialist to further understand his hamstring issue, sources say. With two pulls in one summer, the hope is to fully comprehend the root of the issue. Coach Sean McVay has described him as “day-to-day.”…Rams WR Cooper Kupp visiting specialist in Minnesota to further understand hamstring issue
Bobby Kownack
Cooper Kupp is getting an extra look at his hamstring a weekend before the NFL season kicks off.
The star Rams wide receiver is in Minnesota today visiting with a body specialist to further understand the root of his injury, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported, per sources.
Kupp first suffered the hamstring injury in a practice on Aug. 1, when he pulled up during a route and left the session. The Rams described him as day to day, but the All-Pro then closed August with a setback.
Although head coach Sean McVay again characterized Kupp as day to day following the subsequent hamstring issue, it is unclear whether or not the WR will be able to return for Los Angeles’ Week 1 opener against the Seahawks.
Rapoport also reported that exercising caution for that matchup is the likely outcome — but he mentioned there remains no firm word on his status.
znModeratorThere are a couple of reasons the Rams signed Brett Maher to the practice squad instead of the 53-man roster https://t.co/Qx4cp0ZHzp
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) September 2, 2023
znModeratorhttps://t.co/hZ5TcdJAHh pic.twitter.com/4N0thoVqTy
— Rams Tapes 🥶 (@RamsTapes) September 2, 2023
znModeratorShelley, 26, is entering his fifth NFL season and has started 11 games, appearing in 41 total across four seasons. The Raiders signed him back in March but he was cut this week as Las Vegas trimmed its roster down to 53.
They saw a lot of Shelley in the shared practices with Vegas.
Here’s an old draft report on him.
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5’9, 173 lb
By Lance Zierlein.Overview.Undersized slot corner with the ball skills to pair with the instincts that could find him a spot on a roster. He’s tough and competitive and doesn’t like to let throws go unchallenged, but he lacks the size and length teams typically like as it pertains to an ability to make plays on the ball and handle run-support duties. Shelley’s high football character and competitive mindset give him a decent chance of making a roster, but he may need to prove himself as a viable backup return option..Strengths- Instinctive cover man with 39 passes defensed in 38 career games
- Possesses NFL quickness from the slot
- Said to be a “coach’s dream” due to high football character
- Competitive once the ball is in the air
- Has the twitch to break and challenge the catch
- Shows ability to locate proper paths on the throw
- Soft hands to flip the field when ball-hawking.
Weaknesses- Undersized as slot cornerback only
- Can be mismatched by size
- Will struggle to handle physical route runners
- Lacks the length to challenge the catch once he gets stuck on receiver’s hip
- Could have issues holding up in run support
znModeratorRams sign 16 players to initial practice squad for 2023 season
<figure class=”d3-o-media-object__figure nfl-o-author__figure”>Stu Jackson</figure>https://www.therams.com/news/rams-sign-15-players-to-initial-practice-squad-for-2023-season
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – The Los Angeles Rams have signed 15 players to their practice squad.
Of those 15, 14 were with the team throughout training camp and the preseason. The only one who wasn’t was linebacker Troy Reeder.
Those 15 players are:
- OL A.J. Arcuri
- OL Logan Bruss
- DT Marquise Copeland (veteran)
- RB Royce Freeman (veteran)
- DB Tanner Ingle
- WR Tyler Johnson (veteran)
- TE Nikola Kalinic
- OL Mike McAllister
- DB Cameron McCutcheon
- OL Grant Miller
- LB Troy Reeder (veteran)
- QB Brett Rypien (veteran)
- WR Xavier Smith
- OLB Keir Thomas II
- WR Austin Trammell
Update Aug. 31, 11:15 a.m.: The Rams signed kicker Brett Maher (veteran) to their practice squad, putting them at the 16-man max.
znModeratorBut if your brain isn’t working, then you probably don’t even know who Bennett is, let alone Colt McCoy.
See I had no idea that Bennett is Colt McCoy. That’s what I get for sloppily obliterating posts. I don’t get the info I need.
znModeratorZooey I don’t know what I did here but apparently I meant to quote you and reply and instead edited your post. I forget what the original message you wrote was. I am now replacing whatever in the F it was I did with this message. Sorry about that, I am not usually this clumsy and ham handed.
I said something about the possibility that the last game with the Broncos may have affected his rating significantly, and judging by the score, I don’t think Bennett was singularly bad in that game. Looked like a team effort in Terribleness. I maybe said something else, too, but I don’t remember. Maybe some bromide like “Let’s wait and see,” so something. Oh, no, it was something about how the Rams must think he still has potential, but something about Colt McCoy being available, and we will see if the Rams think more highly of Bennett than McCoy.
Again, my apologies. I must have hit edit somehow instead of quote.
Sometimes, brain not work good.
znModeratorWith the season set to begin, I examined some lingering offseason issues now bleeding into the season:
-the discontent of Jonathan Taylor and Chris Jones;
-whither Joe Burrow's contract extension?;
-the blundering end of Trey Lance in SF.
Settle in:
https://t.co/wA1NIwKHJn— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) August 31, 2023
znModerator— JimEverett.eth (@Jim_Everett) August 31, 2023
znModeratorYeah, we are all gonna be curious to see if and how, he develops.
He might be a dud. In which case, I don’t see much difference between Bennett and 2015 Sean Mannion (3rd Rd) 1999 Joe Germaine (4th Rd)
What also stings about this is that one of the best qb picks in this draft was Aidan O’Connell, who was picked just 7 slots after Bennett in the 4th round.
QB AIDAN O’CONNELL, LAS VEGAS RAIDERS
No one improved their stock as much as rookie quarterback Aidan O’Connell, who put together one of the best preseasons in the NFL. He finished with an 89.5 PFF grade and had 64 dropbacks across three games in which he saw significant time. He didn’t make a single turnover-worthy play across those three games, something that blighted his college tape. The Raiders probably weren’t expecting much out of the fourth-rounder, but they are going to have to sit up and pay attention to him now as he enters the season as the third quarterback on the roster.
Versus this (from https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/28/rams-stetson-bennett-pff-grade-preseason-stats-analysis/ ):
Bennett played all three preseason games and threw 62 passes, so his opportunities were certainly there. Unfortunately, the results were poor. According to Pro Football Focus, Bennett was the lowest-graded quarterback in the NFL this preseason, earning an overall mark of 29.5. The next-closest quarterback who had at least 19 drop-backs was P.J. Walker, who had a PFF grade of 41.2 this preseason and has already been cut by the Bears.
Bennett finished the preseason with a completion rate of 58.1% and just one touchdown pass compared to three interceptions. What drove Bennett’s grade down significantly was his decision-making. His six turnover-worthy plays were tied with Jake Haener for the most of any quarterback, so he was actually lucky to have just three interceptions.
Coincidentally, former Rams quarterback John Wolford had the highest passing grade (87.5) of all quarterbacks this preseason, completing 66.7% of his passes for 168 yards and a touchdown with no interceptions.
Reading that last bit on Bennet just gives the creepy feeling that sentence by sentence. It. Just. Keeps. Getting. Worse.
Ick.
znModeratorRams Wire@TheRamsWireStetson Bennett had the lowest grade of any quarterback this preseason, which isn’t the way he hoped to start his career
znModeratorThe #Rams are finalizing contract details with veteran kicker Brett Maher,
Free Agency Frosty@FrostyTalksFBMaher went 4/6 from FG in the preseason.In 54 games with Dallas and New Orleans, Maher has made 81% of his career field goals and 96% of extra points.
He is 25/30 from 30-39, 18-27 from 40-49, and 19/29 from 50+. In his career, he is 128/134 in XP.
znModeratorMeet the Captains. 🫡 pic.twitter.com/bX5QwXKp8A
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 31, 2023
znModeratorPREMIERE: J.B., D'Marco, + Stu Jackson react to the Rams' 53-man roster along with a look ahead to Week 1 vs. the Seahawks on this edition of Between the Horns. https://t.co/8pQ4AhL9Cw
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) August 30, 2023
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znModeratorLooking at the numbers at each position group and with the inevitable roster changes that will happen it might not be too difficult to predict who is going to be released sooner or later. Five safeties? Jason Taylor can’t be feeling too comfortable.
The practice squad.
Or as they say in German, der Squad für das Practice.
This could be one of the deepest practice squads Rams have ever had.
znModeratorOne of those TEs or OL could take a spot for himself as a kick returner.
Or for that matter, as a kicker.
znModeratorAnchrum is an impressive guy.
znModeratorPro Football Focus has graded every Rams player who took a snap in the preseason this summer and we’ve broken them down by the top 10 and bottom 10 on offense and defense.
Top 10 offense
RB Ronnie Rivers: 78.0
WR Austin Trammell: 72.7
G Tremayne Anchrum Jr.: 70.8
WR Puka Nacua: 70.3
LT Alaric Jackson: 70.1
G Sean Maginn: 69.9
WR Braxton Burmeister: 68.4
WR Tyler Johnson: 66.2
OT A.J. Arcuri: 65.0
TE Nikola Kalinic: 63.9Rivers was certainly the star of the preseason for the Rams, performing well in all three games and leading the offense with a 78.0 grade. It’s good to see a trio of projected starters near the top, too: Anchrum, Nacua and Jackson.
Johnson did his best to impress the coaching staff this preseason in hopes of making the 53-man roster, but we don’t yet know if it was enough to land him a spot on the team this season.
The rest of the players in the top 10 are expected to be cut this week despite playing somewhat well this preseason.
Top 10 defense
(AP Photo/Kyusung Gong)
DT Desjuan Johnson: 78.6
DE Jonah Williams: 78.1
CB Tre Tomlinson: 76.0
S John Johnson III: 75.7
S Tanner Ingle: 70.0
S Quentin Lake: 69.2
CB Cameron McCutcheon: 68.7
S Quindell Johnson: 68.7
NT Bobby Brown III: 66.6
OLB Michael Hoecht: 65.0Johnson was a seventh-round pick by the Rams this year and although he could have a hard time making the team, he put some good things on tape in the preseason. Williams was also a standout player on the defensive line, as was projected starter Bobby Brown III.
Hoecht failed to record a single pressure and had a pass-rush grade of 50.0 but he was good against the run, which helped his grade.
Tomlinson, John Johnson, Ingle, Lake, McCutcheon and Quindell Johnson all stood out on defense. It unfortunately wasn’t enough for Ingle, who was cut on Monday, and McCutcheon is also expected to be waived. Quindell Johnson is a wild card at safety.
znModeratorAccording to PFF’s grades, no team had a worse offense, defense or special teams than the Rams this preseason https://t.co/xd4G3sj1QI
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) August 30, 2023
znModeratorTop Takeaways from Sean McVay’s press conference on initial 53-man roster for 2023: Logan Bruss, kicker position, and more
Stu Jackson
Rams head coach Sean McVay held a video conference with local media Tuesday afternoon after the team released its initial 53-man roster for the 2023 season, discussing the decision to waive offensive lineman Logan Bruss, how they’re approaching the kicker position after waiving Tanner Brown, young players who will contribute right away, and more.
Here are the details on those key takeaways and others from the conversation:
Bruss return a possibility
The decision to waive former 2021 third-round draft pick Logan Bruss was one based not only on how the Rams truly embraced competition across their young roster, according to McVay. At the same time, it doesn’t bring any sort of finality to their working relationship.
“We just had an open mind with competition at every single spot, and we felt like the 10 guys that we kept did a good job of kind of earning those spots, obviously with (offensive lineman) Kevin Dotson being a late add, he has a body of work and a resume,” McVay said. “Logan somebody is somebody that we still want to be able to continue to work with. Hopefully we’ll be able to get him back on the practice squad.”
Yes, there will eventually be a kicker on the roster
One of the other biggest developments from the initial 53-man roster was the roster not having a kicker, as rookie Tanner Brown was among the 36 players waived to get down to 53.
McVay wanted to keep the direction they’re taking internal. Still, he promised they will have a kicker for Week 1 against the Seahawks in Seattle.
“I’d like to keep some of the things specific to exactly which direction we’re going in-house, just because it can’t be official or anything like that right now,” McVay said. “So you will certainly know, as soon as some of those moves become official, once we’re able to do that. But we will carry a kicker going into Seattle on the 10th.”
Avila, Young, Turner and Nacua expected to make immediate impact, but McVay hopeful it’s not just them from this year’s draft class
When it comes to young players who will be counted on to make an immediate impact, the four names that came to mind for McVay were offensive lineman Steve Avila, outside linebacker Byron Young, nose tackle Kobie Turner and wide receiver Puka Nacua.
McVay is also hopeful it’s not just those four that fall into that category from this year’s draft class.
“Those are guys that come to mind as guys that we count on being immediate contributors for us, who have earned the right to be those types of immediate contributors,” McVay said. “And it certainly isn’t exclusive to those guys. (I) think (punter) Ethan Evans and (long snapper) Alex Ward, even when you’re looking at rookie punter, rookie long snapper, have done a really good job. But those four that I mentioned are the guys that really have kind of shown that they’ve earned a role, they’ve earned the right to be big-time factors right away, and we’re hoping that’s just the start of what we’re talking about with that class in particular.”
Mathis expected to go on Injured Reserve
Rookie outside linebacker Ochaun Mathis, who tweaked his knee early in training camp, will likely go Injured Reserve, per McVay.
In order for a player to receive an IR return designation, they must be on the 53-man roster beyond the cut deadline, which likely explains why Mathis was on the initial 53. Had Mathis been placed on IR prior to the cut deadline, he would not have been eligible to return this season.
McVay said Mathis will be the only player that will “fall under that bucket” of going onto Injured Reserve shortly after being on the initial 53-man roster.
znModeratorThe Rams don’t have a kicker, which is mostly the result of them not having a true competition this summer and relying on an undrafted rookie.
They’ll find someone, but it’s not an ideal situation https://t.co/PLOrgvy8FY
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) August 29, 2023
znModeratorWaiver order is below. Rams are 6th. pic.twitter.com/ZgvRaM2BzS
— Rams Brothers (@RamsBrothers) August 29, 2023
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRams
Asked Sean McVay about the Rams’ plan at kicker. McVay said he wanted to keep some of details specific to the direction they’re going in-house because it can’t be official right now, but did promise this:“We will carry a kicker going into Seattle on the 10th.”
Apologies to those of who dreamed of a game where the Rams went for it on 4th down each time they got inside field goal range
McVay identified rookie OL Steve Avila, rookie OLB Byron Young, rookie NT Kobie Turner and rookie WR Puka Nacua as young players who will be counted on as immediate contributors for the Rams and have earned that right.
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JAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
Only 25 players of the #Rams initial 53-man roster in 2022 are still on the team in 2023
August 28, 2023 at 11:16 pm in reply to: the 2023 OL thread (w/ definitive article posted on 5/30) #145060
znModeratorRodrigue, from: https://theathletic.com/4813893/2023/08/28/rams-joe-noteboom-stetson-bennett/?source=emp_shared_article
Joe Noteboom
As Noteboom walked out of the training room for his interview, his face still dripped with sweat from his first day back at practice as the team tapers him into a full workload. He also wore a large brace wrapped tightly around his left shoulder and chest. Noteboom missed both sets of joint practices with the Las Vegas Raiders and Denver Broncos earlier this month after suffering what he says is a minor upper body soft-tissue injury (hence the protective brace).
“It was something really small, kind of a maintenance thing,” he said. “They just wanted to be cautious and not make it a longer thing than it is. But I feel great, 100 percent now.”
Noteboom will be competing at right guard now that he’s back on the field. While he was injured, part of his work on the side of the field with athletic trainers included movement drills specific to the footwork he’ll need to adjust for at that position — not only because Noteboom is switching from tackle to guard, but also from left tackle (he also has played some left guard) to right guard.
<p class=”go-deeper-title”>“Anyone that has played (will) say switching sides isn’t easy,” he said. “That’s why I’m doing (those reps) over and over and over again every day. At this point, it feels comfortable now. At the end of the day it is just flipped. Same footwork and technique (as left guard), just flipped. Takes the body a little time to adjust, but I feel 100 percent comfortable at it now.”</p>External speculation has swirled around Noteboom, in part because head coach Sean McVay did not disclose the nature of his injury but also because the Rams traded for Pittsburgh Steelers guard Kevin Dotson this week. Some have questioned whether the Rams were trying to trade him (although it is unlikely that McVay would have even publicly mentioned a new injury at all if that were the case, since teams aren’t required to report them to the NFL this time of year). A league source said Sunday that the Rams view the Dotson addition as a boost to their depth.
Noteboom said he’s more interested in proving himself to his teammates than those outside the building.“I want to be a great player for this team, and for these coaches,” he said. “I have the utmost respect for Sean and all the coaches here. Matthew (Stafford), Cooper (Kupp) and AD (Aaron Donald). Just what they do, I want to be on that level and be the best I can be, for them and for this team — and take a step forward in that aspect.”
While Noteboom is still building into a full practice workload, Monday marked the first time the Rams’ possible starting offensive line practiced together since the start of training camp. If Noteboom does get the starting right guard job, the offensive line will feature Alaric Jackson at left tackle (Noteboom had competed with Jackson there through most of camp), rookie Steve Avila at left guard, Coleman Shelton at center, Noteboom, and Rob Havenstein at right tackle.
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znModeratorThe kind of solid vet depth he provides could save Matthew Stafford from getting himself all Bulgerized. w v
I gather that when you say Stafford shouldn’t get Bulgerized, that means that he should not be a lazy non-performer who doesn’t care about the team or the game since he got his new contract, and instead blames his poor play on team injuries, which is just making excuses because all teams have injuries. Also, there’s nothing wrong with Zygmunt.
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znModerator— Showed more technique than you see from a lot of rookie edge guys with much bigger names
— Went to Ferris State, and who gives a damn? This guy is a PLAYER. Titans made out like banditos here. pic.twitter.com/O3kLuhTIFh
— Doug Farrar ✍ (@NFL_DougFarrar) August 28, 2023
znModeratorMatthew Stafford is having a hard time connecting with young Rams roster.
According to wife Kelly, the QB feels like 'a dad' and wants players to stop looking at their phones so much, but doesn't know "how to lead team that I have no connection with"https://t.co/wPkswg9U7e
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) August 27, 2023
znModeratorRams acquire OG Kevin Dotson from Steelers: How injuries factored into trade
Mark Kaboly and Jourdan Rodrigue
https://theathletic.com/4811143/2023/08/27/rams-steelers-kevin-dotson-trade/
The Los Angeles Rams acquired offensive guard Kevin Dotson from the Pittsburgh Steelers, the teams announced Sunday. Here’s what you need to know:
The Steelers receive the Rams’ 2024 fourth-round pick and 2025 fifth-round pick while Los Angeles receives Pittsburgh’s 2024 fifth-round pick and 2025 sixth-round pick.
Pittsburgh drafted Dotson in the fourth round of the 2020 NFL Draft.
Dotson started 30 of his 39 career games in Pittsburgh.The Athletic’s instant analysis:
Why this makes sense for Los Angeles
Even though Dotson has 30 games worth of starting experience for the Steelers, including 17 games last season, I’m told Los Angeles considers this to be a depth move for their offensive line. Dotson has played some at both guard spots.
The Rams’ offensive line seems mostly solidified…with the pesky exception of right guard. Joe Noteboom, who Los Angeles extended on a three-year, $40 million contract in 2022, is expected to compete for the starting right guard job when he returns from an injury coaches say is unrelated to the Achilles tear he suffered in 2022.
Noteboom was initially competing at left tackle, but was moved to a rotation at right guard with Tremayne Anchrum with a few days left in the Rams’ Irvine, Calif. camp before suffering the undisclosed injury. — Rodrigue
How many offensive linemen will the Rams keep?
With Dotson expected to fill a depth role, larger questions remain about how many offensive linemen the Rams will keep on their roster. They recently moved last year’s third-round pick, Logan Bruss, out of right guard and back to his natural tackle spot, but his play has fluctuated there in practices and games.
Bruss and rookie fifth-round pick Warren McClendon are now training as reserve swing tackles, while Anchrum could be a swing depth player at guard if he loses the position battle to Noteboom. They also have a two-deep at center, but veteran Brian Allen does not also play guard while starter Coleman Shelton does. — Rodrigue
Why Pittsburgh moved on
It made all the sense in the world for the Steelers to move on from Dotson, who was a draft darling three years ago. It was just a matter of what kind of compensation they could get for him. With Isaac Seumalo signed in free agency to start at left guard, Nate Herbig brought in as a free agent in March to play swing guard and Dotson being in the final year of his rookie deal and set to earn $2.75 million, it was pretty much an expected move.
The only twist was Herbig had missed the past two weeks with a shoulder injury but Mike Tomlin said Saturday that he wasn’t concerned with that. — Kaboly
How injuries factored into trade
There is only so much Tomlin and the Steelers deal with injuries before cutting ties. Dotson was at that point. He got hurt in each of his first three years and was nursing a shoulder and ankle injury this preseason. To his credit, he played every snap last year as he battled through nagging injuries.
Dotson was the physical guard they wanted but the inconsistency ultimately was his biggest issue. Dotson committed 12 penalties a year ago including four false starts and four holding calls that frustrated Pittsburgh. The transaction could mean the Steelers keep the much-maligned former third-round pick Kendrick Green on the initial 53.
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