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znModeratorBattle in Seattle: Rams hit the road for NFC West tilt against Seahawks | Game Preview
J.B. Long
https://www.therams.com/news/rams-seahawks-game-preview-battle-iseattle-hit-road-nfc-west-week-9
Every season in the NFL, a team goes worst to first.
But on the first Sunday of November, the Los Angeles Rams can do it in a day.
The NFC West is the only division in the league that has all four teams stacked within a single game, and we’ll talk about the schedule and playoff picture at the end of this column.
For now, just know that after starting 1-4 and being written off, the Rams can fly home from Seattle on Sunday night atop the West with a bit of help from the Chicago Bears. But it all starts with finding the first road win of 2024 against the Seahawks.
Can you believe the last time the Rams touched down in the Pacific Northwest, Kyren Williams had yet to score an NFL touchdown?
14 months later, he now has 25, more than anyone else in the league. Williams has missed five games in that span, too!
As for Puka Nacua, what more can we add? Only a select few Rams fans had him on their fantasy teams going into Week 1 of 2023. After a debut for the ages – 10 catches, 119 yards – he was an overnight sensation and owners were rapidly changing their team names (Puka Shells had a great 2023).
On the defensive side, Kobie Turner and Byron Young combined on their first professional sack, dragging down Geno Smith. That duo would go on to lead all NFL rookies with nine and eight sacks, respectively.
As they go back to Lumen Field in 2024, they bring with them another rookie class full of difference-makers working to shift the balance of power within the division.
With or Without You (Coop and Puka)
And just as importantly, this time they’ll have Cooper Kupp.
I knew it to be true, but was nonetheless gobsmacked to see it in print this week: Eastern Washington’s favorite son has played just 18 offensive snaps against the Seahawks since 2022, according to NFL Research.
He did not play in either matchup in 2022 (ankle), was on injured reserve for Week 1 2023 (hamstring), and was just getting started in Week 11 before leaving that game in the second quarter.
Not since Week 15 2021, the closing stretch of his Triple Crown surge, has Kupp played a full game against the franchise he grew up watching. He caught nine passes for 136 yards and two touchdowns that day.
You don’t need me to tell you how important his presence has been to Matthew Stafford and the Rams success. But let’s detail it anyway, in conjunction with Nacua.
Stafford has 26 passing scores against only eight interceptions in 13 games when both Kupp and Nacua play. Compare those totals to five passing touchdowns and eight picks when either or both are missing.
That’s how NFL Research frames it. ESPN paints the same picture with a different brush: Stafford’s QBR improves by over 25 points when both Kupp and Nacua are available.
Here’s how we frame it internally: When Matthew Stafford, Kyren Williams, Cooper Kupp, and Puka Nacua are in the lineup, it’s hard to argue that the Rams are anything other than elite offensively. With that nucleus intact, they rank first in the NFL in offensive EPA and yards gained, plus top five in the league in scoring and yards per play.
znModeratorHe does the Rams at 3:56 in.
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znModeratorByron Young is still a speedster, even after putting on some muscle pic.twitter.com/1GNXValIMd
— Jim Youngblood 53 (@53_jim70721) November 2, 2024
znModerator#Seahawks WR DK Metcalf (MCL sprain) has been ruled out for Sunday.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) November 1, 2024
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Puka Nacua “banged his knee” in practice but Sean McVay says there is no structural damage from the contact with the ground. He won’t practice today and will be questionable for Sunday but McVay is not counting out the potential that he plays.This is the third issue with the same knee for Nacua over the last few months, but McVay maintains that he doesn’t think Nacua will have to manage it through the rest of the season, saying he hoped this was more of “a scare”.
znModerator#RamsHouse vs. #Seahawks ! Matthew Stafford has his two weapons back and made a statement in last week's win against the Vikings. @DariusJButler breaks down the impact Puka Nacua and Cooper Kupp have on this offense.@GregCosell | @DariusJButler pic.twitter.com/832j85YJOF
— NFL Matchup on ESPN (@NFLMatchup) November 1, 2024
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimesklein
Rams signed P Ty Zentner to practice squad, team announced. He is the second punter to be signed. Ethan Evans was out Wednesday because of illness, per special teams coordinator Chase BlackburnJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Ethan Evans (illness) is out for Sunday’s game. Rams will decide which of the two practice squad punters to elevate, with an emphasis on who they feel will be the better holder for their kicking unit.
znModeratorThis is a really good one.
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znModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Rams WR Puka Nacua’s knee injury is not believed to be serious, per sources. His status on Sunday’s game at Seattle still is to be determined, but it does not appear to be any type of significant injury.
Mike Garafolo@MikeGarafolo#Rams WR Puka Nacua, who was limited today in practice after suffering a knee injury, is expected to be fine, source says. Not a major injury. Huge sigh of relief after his 106-yard game in his return to the lineup last week.
znModeratorJust saw, the Jets are probably gonna beat the Texans. It’s funny but I actually like that thought. And I could care less about the Jets. Or the Texans. But all the press I ran across before the game was about how the Texans were just gonna squash NY, so it’s a nice turn of events.
Exactly. Its kinda hilarious too. w v
I didn’t see it but the boxscore says they sacked Stroud 8 times.
Rams play the Jets 12/22. In NY.
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Josh Dubow@JoshDubowAPCJ Stroud is 1st player to be sacked 8+ times and complete 11 or fewer passes in a game since Zach Wilson did it in 2021 finale for Jets vs Bills (8 sacks, 7 completions)…no disrespect to javon kinlaw, but if quinnen williams keeps demolishing your overmatched left guard, you might want to slide the center in that direction pic.twitter.com/ECvMHINksl
— Doug Farrar ✍ (@NFL_DougFarrar) November 1, 2024
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.@jets pass rush forced CJ Stroud to drop back 38X and complete 11 passes with plenty of throwaways like this. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/6dQ89LEbk1
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) November 1, 2024
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.@jets @AaronRodgers12 to @GarrettWilson_V with 2 sensational one handed catches last night to get in the WIN column. Halloween was never celebrated better than this combination for any JET fan. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/UTpipYqznl
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) November 1, 2024
znModeratorJust saw, the Jets are probably gonna beat the Texans. It’s funny but I actually like that thought. And I could care less about the Jets. Or the Texans. But all the press I ran across before the game was about how the Texans were just gonna squash NY, so it’s a nice turn of events.
znModeratorPFF LA Rams@PFF_RamsKyren Williams could be set to break through the Seahawks defense Williams has accumulated 314 rush yards after contact, ranking 10th among RBs this season. The Seattle defense sits at 31st in yards after contact allowed to RBs, priming Williams for a strong performance
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue Rams WR Puka Nacua was scheduled for his weekly press conference today, but was not able to do it because he left practice with a knee injury
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefterRams WR Puka Nacua’s knee injury is not believed to be serious, per sources. His status on Sunday’s game at Seattle still is to be determined, but it does not appear to be any type of significant injury.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
The Rams signed punter Ryan Sanborn to the practice squad, the team announced.Ethan Evans is dealing with an illness, per ST coordinator Chase Blackburn
Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Blackburn also indicated this influenced signing P Ryan Sanborn to practice squad, in terms of keeping those special teams operations uninterrupted in practice
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueJoe Noteboom will practice this week, per Sean McVay; still no return to practice designation for Steve Avila, Jonah Jackson or John Johnson III.
znModeratorJerry Glanville is 83 years old and he's currently an assistant coach at Northwestern Oklahoma State.
I asked him why he's still doing it.
His answer is awesome. @gmfb pic.twitter.com/xQRvXrx5iL
— Peter Schrager (@PSchrags) October 31, 2024
znModerator1976 – the first time the rams and the newly formed seahawks ever played each other: pic.twitter.com/7qDWLPf7jU
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) October 31, 2024
znModeratorLeft Tackle Aleric Jackson has seemingly improved on each season in the league.
He continues to play at a very high level, and against top tier talented pass rushers. The Rams need to consider big #77 as the long term Left Tackle of the future pic.twitter.com/Pls78RmL9f
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) October 31, 2024
znModeratorSo the second ranked team, lost to the fifth ranked team, i see. Yankees payroll: 309 million Dodgers: 241 million. Meanwhile, the Oakland A’s have 63 million in payroll. The League…is…a….joke. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/_/year/2024/sort/cap_total2 w v
See that’s evidence that the team with the lower payroll can win, since the Dodgers beat the more expensive Yankees. That means the Oakland A’s are right there in the running, because they’re lower still.
(Me after all the laughter finally dies down):
Yeah I know…it’s one of the reasons I don’t follow baseball.
znModeratorrams v seahawks at the 1:14 mark
They’re not very up to date on the Rams defense, which has been coming on since the bye. That’s partly (I think) getting D.Williams back in the secondary, partly some self-scouting and adjustment during the bye (a Rams coaching staff speciality), and partly the youngsters just improving.
znModeratorIt sure sounds like Sean McVay has some regret over the terrible Ernest Jones trade
Cameron DaSilva
As good a tandem as Sean McVay and Les Snead are in Los Angeles, they haven’t exactly gotten the greatest returns when it comes to trading players like Jalen Ramsey, Marcus Peters and now Ernest Jones.
At the time, the decision to trade away Jones just before Week 1 was a curious one. What they got in return was even more shocking. Along with Jones, the Rams traded a 2026 sixth-round pick to the Titans for a 2026 fifth-rounder – essentially moving up just one round in exchange for one of the team’s best defenders.
We haven’t gotten the full story on the reasoning behind that puzzling deal, but it sure sounds like McVay has some regrets about it. With Jones now in Seattle after the Titans traded him to the Seahawks last week – for more than the Rams got in their trade, mind you – McVay was asked about the trade and how it’s worked out.
“I think I’ve been pleased with some of the things that guys have done. It’d be hard to deny the production that he’s had when you look at what he’s done at Tennessee and even just in his first week (in Seattle) last week,” McVay said. “He’s a great player and he did a lot of good things for us. I think all the decisions that we make in the moment we feel like are in the best interest. I’m not going to pretend and act like every decision is accurate. You try to be able to learn from it and apply it moving forward, but you know that you’re playing against a really well-respected player, mentally and physically tough. Seems like he’s always around the football. I wish him well and it’s going to be a great challenge going against him.”
Jones seemed to be playing well for the Titans before they surprisingly traded him to the Seahawks for Jerome Baker and a fourth-round pick, but he’s already had a positive impact on the Seahawks.
In his first game with Seattle just four days after being traded to the Seahawks, he had 15 tackles and played every single snap. He’s always been a dynamic playmaker in the middle of the defense, particularly against the run and as a blitzer, and there’s no question the Rams could use him right about now.
Troy Reeder and Christian Rozeboom have not played well, and now Reeder is on injured reserve with a hamstring injury. Omar Speights has a promising future but he’s not close to where Jones currently is as a player.
Don’t be surprised if Jones has a big game against his former team on Sunday, reminding them what they traded away for a bag of peanuts.
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPRSince 2021, WR Cooper Kupp (@CooperKupp) has averaged 90.1 receiving yards per game, the second-most in the NFL over that span. During the same period, he has caught 7.37 passes per game, the most in the NFL (minimum 40 games played).
znModeratorMe (at moi.com): Part of the Rams defensive improvement came from both benching White and getting Darious Wms. back.
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Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Sean McVay says team gave permission for Tre White and his agent to explore a trade and they’ve all talked about it. McVay said he’d be happy if White did stay, reiterating how well he has carried himself even when inactive – but understands if he wants to go compete. Rams willcontinue with the cornerbacks rotation they have deployed the last few weeks.
znModeratorRams running Base Chop (CB 5MPRS) vs. a Vikings condensed formation (21p).
Nice job by Verse (8) to ole the down block & make the play.
He's going to be a problem (along with Fiske) for a long time.
— pic.twitter.com/RPmSf9uJQA— Cody Alexander (@The_Coach_A) October 29, 2024
znModeratorNot comparing myself to Rodrigue. 😎 Just trying to get a lot of details into one post.
Before the bye, their pressure allowed rate averaged out to 29.1%.
After the bye, it’s 10.05%.
There’s a lot of factors in that.
* stabilizing the OL, including replacing Bruss with Dedich
* getting Kupp and Nacua back
* defensive improvement, which obviously helps the offense
* the Rams just have a knack for self-scouting and adjusting at the bye…it’s a McVay thing.
Me: This was especially notable against Minn, which even after the Rams game is 1st in the league in defensive pressure rate at 30.2%.
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Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
Before the bye, Matthew Stafford was pressured 65 times and sacked 16. In two games after – against tough defenses – he was pressured just 13 times and sacked once.***
Led by Rob Havenstein, Rams O-line finding identity despite injuries, adversity
Jourdan Rodrigue
INGLEWOOD, Calif. — Los Angeles Rams right tackle Rob Havenstein sank into his chair in the locker room Thursday at SoFi Stadium after helping to beat the Minnesota Vikings 30-20. It was the second of two physical, intense games against strong defensive lines in just five days and Havenstein was exhausted.
He was also beaming.
The veteran right tackle and team captain could hardly walk to the adjacent sports medical room to get postgame treatment after Sunday’s 20-15 win over Las Vegas without a cushion supporting his feet. That game, Havenstein and a cobbled-together cast of linemen that currently includes a rookie center and undrafted free agent rookie left guard, kept game-wrecking star pass-rusher Maxx Crosby from doing just that. The offensive line allowed only five pressures on quarterback Matthew Stafford, and one sack. Havenstein, who drew Crosby’s rush frequently, allowed only one pressure.
Four days later against Minnesota, Havenstein allowed just one additional pressure in a game against the typically assertive, pressure-diverse Vikings front (the Rams allowed eight total pressures, inclusive to skill players assigned to blitzes according to TruMedia). Stafford wasn’t sacked once.
So Havenstein hobbled to his chair after the celebrations were over, after the miles of athletic tape holding together his ankle joints were cut and peeled away from his cleats and calves, and sank into it. He started chugging bottles of Gatorade — Havenstein had gotten a not-so-subtle compliment of his play from the NFL. A notice for a drug test was posted inside his locker and he was too dehydrated to take it just yet.
“It wasn’t easy sledding out there, by any means,” Havenstein said. “I thought we had a really good focus on what we wanted to do, how we wanted to attack. … (and) we’re taking as much (time) as we can — for as many minutes of the meetings as we have, even — turning our bodies over and trying to get ready for a Thursday Night Football game which is not the easiest thing to do.”
Of anybody, Havenstein knew the stakes entering the two-game week because he has seen rosters change dramatically over the years. He is 32, and the last player left from the Rams’ St. Louis days. Even the Rams’ Super Bowl roster of the 2021 season has turned over dramatically, with Havenstein one of its few remaining members. The Rams entered Week 7 with a 1-4 record. Any more losing, and there was a real possibility changes would be made to a roster with one foot into its new era — young drafted players developing into key starters — and one foot still in its previous iteration.
Winning on Thursday felt significant for that reason, but it also indicated a shift toward better football. Getting star receiver Cooper Kupp and second-year receiver Puka Nacua back in the lineup after their respective injuries obviously helped, not just to impact the passing game but as blockers in the run game and in pass protection.
It also was the best eight quarters the offensive line has played this season.
Injuries at the position compounded immediately as the season began and impacted the quality of football the Rams played (not having Kupp or Nacua obviously did, too). Havenstein, battling an ankle injury that kept him out of most of training camp, missed Week 1. Then he anchored a front that initially was without starting left tackle Alaric Jackson (suspension) and soon lost starting left guard Steve Avila (knee) and center Jonah Jackson (shoulder). Right guard Kevin Dotson, who pushed through a toe injury early in the year, has been the other stalwart of the offensive line and it was a quiet relief for such an embattled position group that he and Havenstein play next to each other.
Ahead of the Week 6 bye, Stafford had been sacked 16 times (the fifth-most in the NFL through that span) and pressured 65 times (seventh-most).
Havenstein met with head coach Sean McVay before players took their break to talk through adjustments.
“We were kind of looking for some different answers,” McVay said, “and just seeing the way that he pours into guys and some of the input he was able to give to me that we’ve tried to have be reflected in the way that we’ve approached certain things, I certainly think it’s helped.”
Minus Avila (who McVay said Monday may not yet be ready to return), the Rams had 2022 third-round pick Logan Bruss at left guard from Weeks 3 through 5. After the bye, they started undrafted free-agent rookie Justin Dedich there in Weeks 7 and 8. Dedich could potentially keep the role until Avila returns, even with veteran depth lineman Joe Noteboom likely getting back this week after an injured reserve stint.
“I’ve been really pleased. I think (Dedich has) done an excellent job each of the last two weeks starting against the Raiders and the Vikings, two really formidable defenses,” McVay said. “You know what a big deal it is to me, especially as it relates to those guys up front to establish a rapport with one another.”
Beaux Limmer, a sixth-round pick last spring, has started at center since substituting in during the Rams’ Week 1 overtime loss to Detroit.
“He’s getting better and better. I think he’s getting more comfortable and confident with his rapport with (Stafford) and then those guys that he’s playing next to,” McVay said. “Really since the bye, I have seen some improvement in terms of the overall communication, the command, and I think that’s been reflected in the way that he’s played and the way those guys around him have played.”
McVay also praised position coach Ryan Wendell and assistants Zak Kromer and Mike Munchak for their game planning and preparation.
But it’s Havenstein who has especially become a voice McVay leans on similar to how he once leaned on longtime captain Andrew Whitworth — a player who can communicate the nuances of a position group to the head coach, but also of the locker room overall.
“Rob’s been awesome. He’s been that way. I think what’s been really cool too is he’s always been a leader in his own right and then obviously the torch was kind of passed when Whitworth retired (after the Super Bowl),” said McVay. “He has really come into his own and figured out how to lead (in a way that is) authentic to himself while also learning from some other great ones like Whit and (former Rams lineman) John Sullivan … He’s special and I really love working with Rob.”
After Sunday’s ugly win against Las Vegas — only their second of the year, and with so much about the team’s future still in question at that time — Havenstein, sitting in his chair at his locker, was who he always is.
Reflective, but blunt before turning his mind to Minnesota.
“(Earlier this year), someone asked me a question of, ‘If you start the season 0-3, statistically, season is done, you can go nowhere,’ and it’s kind of the same thing, I looked at it like, ‘What do you want me to do, stop playing? Turn my pads in?’ ” he said, scoffing. “‘Ah, s—, we’re 0-3 boys, pack it in. We’ll work on next year.’
“That might be the statistics or that might be what media and things like that will say. But at the end of the day, we still got to go out there and do it every single week.
“At the end of the day, there is no ‘too late.’ It’s ‘figure it out.’ ”
znModeratorBecoming the winningest coach in franchise history, team success after the bye + more on The Coach McVay Show! | @Microsoft
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) October 29, 2024
znModerator4. Jared Verse – 82.8 💪
The highest-graded rookies so far this season:https://t.co/uugqI7afNP
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) October 30, 2024
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4. EDGE Jared Verse, Los Angeles Rams
PFF Grade: 82.8
Verse had been threatening to have the breakout game he had on Thursday Night Football but hadn’t been able to consistently finish to increase his sack total. The win over the Vikings saw him avoid missing any tackles for only the third time in seven games, and he has now registered three sacks, 10 quarterback hits and 19 hurries.
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Los Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPROLB Jared Verse (@JaredVerse) has at least one tackle for loss and a pressure rate above 20% in five of seven games played this season. He is the only rookie to accomplish this feat in more than one game this season.
znModeratorMcVay’s defense should know how to defend a basic outside zone run concept with play-side motion (and they do). Few things:
• Young front looks better each week, YPC decreased as game went on
• Hoecht gets doubled and still makes a play
• One of Bobby Brown III’s best games pic.twitter.com/LkbSPfBGXF— Rams Bros. (@RamsBrothers) October 29, 2024
znModeratorNo one is over .500 in the NFC West and the ESPN analyst told us why he’s looking at #RamsHouse to make a run:#NFL pic.twitter.com/V4W5c95RLn
— Rich Eisen Show (@RichEisenShow) October 29, 2024
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