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znModeratorAccording to official league reports, Brady belongs to the eerie world of the undead.
I am not sure if that type is compelled by rule to ever retire.
February 6, 2017 at 12:43 pm in reply to: Rams go after Mark LaFleur for OC…and then, hire him #65005znModeratorWell, i blame LaFleur for teaching Ryan
how to take a sack to lose a Super Bowl.w
vbingo…..
I think they could have recovered from the sack. IMO it was the holding call that killed them.
Either way, Atlanta never had to be a clutch team all season. They were always front runners.
You;re not in clutch situations if your offense is outscoring teams by that margin all season. In fact there was only 1 game all year where the Falcons had to win the game coming from behind and that was against Green Bay’s mediocre defense. Yesterday in contrast Ryan was put in a clutch situation against a very good defense.So I blame LaFleur for coaching the Falcons to be season-long frontrunners who never learned how to play in clutch time.
Plus I think it was LaFleur who was over-inflating Ryan’s footballs.
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znModeratorAtlanta and New England play Pro Football.
What exactly do the Rams play?
You;re going to be a source of light and joy for months, ain’tcha.
znModeratorWe jinxed em somehow.
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znModeratorThe problem with Ryan has been that he’s not clutch.
Having big leads all year doesn’t let you learn to be clutch.
Let’s hope he does have some clutch in him.
znModeratorMichael Wilbon
@RealMikeWilbonif this was anybody other than the Patriots making this many mistakes, including a missed PAT, we’d say they were choking like dogs.
znModeratorYeah the patz d is good. Not star-studded but steadily effective.
What I meant was, except against Atlanta.
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znModerator28-3.
Okay, that’s pretty good I guess.
znModeratorMatt Bowen
ESPN Staff WriterRobert Alford’s pick-six: The Patriots ran the “Follow” route out of a bunch alignment. A shallow crosser paired with an angle route. Alford worked over the traffic and put his eyes on QB Tom Brady. Break downhill on the throw. Falcons jump to a 21-0 lead over the Patriots late in the second quarter.
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Mike Sando
ESPN Senior WriterNever thought the Patriots would turn it over like this, but it’s the second time in three playoff games New England has had two first-half turnovers. Never happened during the regular season.
znModeratorSo far so good if you like Atlanta!
Though there’s this:
Mike Sando
ESPN Senior WriterNever thought I’d be looking up this, but Tom Brady is 2-3 as a starter when trailing by 21+ points in the first half.
40% is not a bad comeback rate.
znModeratorMatt Bowen
ESPN Staff WriterJulio Jones beat 2-Man technique twice on that drive. With a safety over the top and the CB playing inside-man technique, the Patriots have the scheme to “take away” Jones. However, the Falcons WR still beat the coverage on the dig route (square-in) and the deep out.
znModeratorAtlanta lead.
Yeah, running game. 85 yards so far on just 8 carries.
znModerator4 sacks combined, in just 10 passes combined.
znModeratorYeah the patz d is good. Not star-studded but steadily effective.
February 5, 2017 at 5:40 pm in reply to: Rams go after Mark LaFleur for OC…and then, hire him #64953znModeratorJanuary 16, 2014
A promotion from tight ends coach, the job McVay held for three seasons under Mike Shanahan, was inevitable, people around the league say. McVay had the potential to direct his own unit, and many see him as a head coach in the making.
“He’s been around it all his life. He was born into football,” said former Redskins quarterbacks coach Matt LaFleur, one of McVay’s closest friends. “He’s passionate, he’s positive and he’s persistent. He has this never-say-die attitude. And his preparation is really impressive. He’s got all the traits you look for in a coach.”
February 5, 2017 at 5:19 pm in reply to: Rams go after Mark LaFleur for OC…and then, hire him #64952znModeratorI think McVay wants the Coordinators call the plays, and he wants to sit back and just be the Head Coach. That is what is seems like to me.
He has already said he will call the plays.
February 5, 2017 at 3:01 pm in reply to: Rams go after Mark LaFleur for OC…and then, hire him #64946znModeratorThe Rams will seek permission to interview Falcons quarterbacks coach Matt LaFleur for their offensive coordinator position, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Sunday.
McVay overlapped with LaFleur in Washington from 2011-13 when McV was the TE coach.
Houston Texans (2008–2009): Offensive quality control coach (under Kubiak)
Washington Redskins (2010–2013): Quarterbacks coach (under Shanahan sr.)…(qbs in that span include McNabb, Grossman, Beck, Griffin3, & Cousins)
Notre Dame (2014): Quarterbacks coach
Atlanta Falcons (2015–present): Quarterbacks coachfrom the wiki:
Coaching career
LaFleur’s coaching career began at his alma mater, Saginaw Valley State, in 2003 where he served as an offensive graduate assistant. During which time Matt also substitute taught in the local highschools, specializing in math. He proceeded to Central Michigan University where, from 2004–2005, he assisted the offensive staff. In 2006, he coached quarterbacks and receivers at Northern Michigan University. 2007 was his last year at the collegiate level; he was the offensive coordinator at Ashland University.
LaFleur then was hired in 2008 by the Houston Texans to serve as an offensive assistant. He assisted both wide receivers and quarterbacks during his two year stint there and developed a close relationship with coordinator Kyle Shanahan. When Shanahan’s father Mike was hired by the Redskins, Kyle brought LaFleur to Washington to coach the quarterbacks. A primary responsibility of LaFleur’s for the 2012 season was to mentor rookie quarterbacks Robert Griffin III and Kirk Cousins, whom LaFleur was particularly fond of.
On February 5, 2015, LaFleur was hired to be the Quarterbacks coach for the Atlanta Falcons working under offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan whom he previously had worked under when with the Washington Redskins. Matt’s brother, Mike, is an offensive assistant with the Falcons as well.
February 5, 2017 at 3:00 pm in reply to: Rams go after Mark LaFleur for OC…and then, hire him #64945znModeratorMatt LaFleur, Rams have mutual interest, sources say
Adam Schefter
ESPN Senior Writerhttp://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18624289/los-angeles-rams-seek-talk-matt-lafleur-atlanta-falcons
Not only is Atlanta poised to lose offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan to the San Francisco 49ers, but the Falcons also could be losing his logical replacement, quarterbacks coach Matt LaFleur, according to league sources.
The Los Angeles Rams will request permission to speak with LaFleur after Super Bowl LI, as new head coach Sean McVay tries to reunite with the coach he once worked with on the Washington Redskins, according to sources.
LaFleur is interested in going from Atlanta to Los Angeles to reunite with McVay, who views LaFleur as a man capable of helping him implement his offense and teaching former No. 1 overall pick Jared Goff how to shine in the NFL game.
Atlanta could try to keep LaFleur, but it has expressed interest in a more experienced playcaller, someone such as former 49ers head coach Chip Kelly.
February 5, 2017 at 3:00 pm in reply to: Rams go after Mark LaFleur for OC…and then, hire him #64943znModeratorAlready posted.
In this thread: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/rams-after-trestman-as-oc/page/2/#post-64931
To be a nice guy I;ll move my stuff here.
znModeratorOk, but in that post what i hear is how
much you LOVE Hillary.Thats what i hear.
Oh that’s not what you really think.
Patriots fans lie about things like that, all the time.
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znModeratorYes, true, and, but…the mainstream can be shifted leftward.
It won’t go all Finland on us, or at least I don’t think it will.
But it can blue shift some.
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True, the mainstream could be shifted leftward.
If there’s time. If there’s anything left to shift.
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vWell, the Roman empire (with slavery and gladitorial games) was worse than this and so was the catholic middle ages, with its endless dynastic conflicts ruining the lives of everyday people. And, we got rid of those.
So you never know.
If Einstein weren’t optimistic, he could never have climbed Everest. Let alone swim the English channel.
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znModeratorCritique doesn’t have to be the premise of a deduction that concludes, “this, then, is what needs to be done.” It should be an instrument for those for who fight, those who resist and refuse what is….It doesn’t have to lay down the law for the law. It isn’t a stage in a programming. It is a challenge directed to what is.”
I agree with that.
One small step for man. Endless critique for mankind.
znModeratorThe Rams will seek permission to interview Falcons quarterbacks coach Matt LaFleur for their offensive coordinator position, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Sunday.
McVay overlapped with LaFleur in Washington from 2011-13 when McV was the TE coach.
Houston Texans (2008–2009): Offensive quality control coach (under Kubiak)
Washington Redskins (2010–2013): Quarterbacks coach (under Shanahan sr.)…(qbs in that span include McNabb, Grossman, Beck, Griffin3, & Cousins)
Notre Dame (2014): Quarterbacks coach
Atlanta Falcons (2015–present): Quarterbacks coachfrom the wiki:
Coaching career
LaFleur’s coaching career began at his alma mater, Saginaw Valley State, in 2003 where he served as an offensive graduate assistant. During which time Matt also substitute taught in the local highschools, specializing in math. He proceeded to Central Michigan University where, from 2004–2005, he assisted the offensive staff. In 2006, he coached quarterbacks and receivers at Northern Michigan University. 2007 was his last year at the collegiate level; he was the offensive coordinator at Ashland University.
LaFleur then was hired in 2008 by the Houston Texans to serve as an offensive assistant. He assisted both wide receivers and quarterbacks during his two year stint there and developed a close relationship with coordinator Kyle Shanahan. When Shanahan’s father Mike was hired by the Redskins, Kyle brought LaFleur to Washington to coach the quarterbacks. A primary responsibility of LaFleur’s for the 2012 season was to mentor rookie quarterbacks Robert Griffin III and Kirk Cousins, whom LaFleur was particularly fond of.
On February 5, 2015, LaFleur was hired to be the Quarterbacks coach for the Atlanta Falcons working under offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan whom he previously had worked under when with the Washington Redskins. Matt’s brother, Mike, is an offensive assistant with the Falcons as well.
znModeratorReport: Rams want to interview Falcons’ QB coach for offensive coordinator job
Zac Jackson
Report: Rams want to interview Falcons’ QB coach for offensive coordinator job
The Rams will seek permission to interview Falcons quarterbacks coach Matt LaFleur for their offensive coordinator position, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported Sunday.
With Falcons offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan expected to be named head coach of the 49ers in the coming days, LaFleur could end up choosing between a promotion with the Falcons and going to the Rams, where he would work under new head coach Sean McVay.
McVay, Shanahan and LaFleur worked together with the Redskins. LaFleur is in his second season with the Falcons after spending 2014 as quarterbacks coach at Notre Dame. His first NFL job was in 2008 with the Texans.
NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport tweeted that if LaFleur ends up with the Rams, former Eagles and 49ers head coach Chip Kelly “has a real chance” at becoming the offensive coordinator in Atlanta. Schefter’s report said Atlanta “has expressed interest” in Kelly.
znModeratori like that that guy said the new defense will be simpler. as opposed to williams’ defense. just let the guys attack
Yes one generalization you can make at this point is that the Wms defense is more complex (more disguised coverages, more fronts etc) and the Wilson 3/4 1-gap defense is much simpler and as a result, a certain percentage more aggressive.
In that respect it is more like Seattle—it doesn’t do a whole lot of different things, but it excels at what it DOES do.
znModeratorI agree… Foucault that mess. And Foucault those corporate douchebags who think we have to market ourselves in order to further our existence.
Foucault this: it;s Foucauldian to look at how a particular discourse and practices add up to a particular active ensemble, all oriented toward disciplining the masses.
Hence the discourse of employability.
Just some random writer on this:
Foucault’s focus is upon questions of how some discourses have shaped and created meaning systems that have gained the status and currency of ‘truth’, and dominate how we define and organize both ourselves and our social world.
znModeratorOk, but that says it all to me. I mean, the Mainstream
controls the future.Yes, true, and, but…the mainstream can be shifted leftward.
It won’t go all Finland on us, or at least I don’t think it will.
But it can blue shift some.
February 5, 2017 at 10:50 am in reply to: Why Aren't Democrats Doing More to Support the Trump Resistance Movement? #64914znModeratorHow Democrats are getting played
BY MIKE GECAN
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/democrats-played-article-1.2961872
Super Bowl week, and the early days of the Trump administration, are a good time to think about what works in sports and politics.
As every good coach knows, you study the game film of your opponent to spot tendencies, and then you run plays that exploit the weakness in the opposition’s defensive schemes. If the plays work, you keep running them, keep piling up the yards and the points, until the other team gets wise and starts to make some adjustments, or doesn’t get wise and gets creamed.
That’s what the new Trump administration is doing. It has studied the game films from Wisconsin in 2011, when Gov. Scott Walker declared war on organized labor, the Democratic Party and the moderate wing of his own Republican Party. Right after his election, Walker introduced Act 10, a bill that drove large holes in the defensive position of unions by severely limiting collective bargaining and eliminating the main fund-raising tool of the unions, fair share.
The unions and their supporters responded to this play by organizing massive demonstrations and sit-ins in the capitol in Madison. During the week of Feb. 14, attendance grew day by day, hitting 25,000 by Friday and more than 50,000 on the weekend. The next week, the daily average was 50,000, and the weekend attendance hit 100,000.
On and on it went, with the opposition using massive demonstrations and a statehouse occupation to counter the offense run by Walker.
This reaction attracted national and international media, brought celebrities flooding into Madison, and generated scores of millions of dollars for the cause. The demonstrations took on a life of their own. Their leaders then called a second play — a recall of the governor, which attracted more than $75 million to just one progressive organization and untold millions to others.
Here was the problem. These defensive moves didn’t work. On March 9, the Wisconsin Legislature passed Act 10. And on June 14, the state’s Supreme Court ruled the law constitutional, after which the demonstrations and occupation evaporated.
The Trump team is following the Walker playbook, with some variations. Like Walker, it is running aggressive plays right from the start. It doesn’t have to feel out the opponents’ soft spots and tendencies. It knows them.
The difference is that it isn’t just running one play. It’s running a series of them, one right after the other, to keep the defense confused and on its heels.
Second, it’s counting on the opposition to fall into the same trap that the Wisconsin opposition did — to rely on massive demonstrations and to ignore the need to do hard, local, person-by-person organizing back in the local towns, villages and counties.
While the opponents were massing in Madison, the Walker crowd was running another offense in local districts. In 2011, the Senate was barely Republican — 17 to 16 — and the Assembly was strongly Republican, 57 to 38. Today, the Senate is overwhelmingly Republican — 20 to 13 — while the Assembly is even more Republican — 64 to 34.
The Walker team and the Trump team know this dirty little secret about progressive Democrats: They love the long pass to the quicksilver wide receiver, but have no stomach for the hard slog that occurs in the trenches.
Many Dems either don’t know how to relate to people with moderate or mixed views or they don’t want to. They prefer rock stars and celebrities to bus drivers and food service workers. They like cute sayings and clever picket signs, not long and patient listening sessions with people who have complicated interests, people who might not pass the liberal litmus test.
The Trump team will keep running their plays, as the Walker team did. They hope and pray that the opposition will follow the Wisconsin script and indulge in impeachment talk or rigid obstructionism — spending precious time and another fortune on ads and legal costs.
Meanwhile, in the Midwest, where the next set of elections will be decided, the Trump crowd will keep racking up the points in local and statewide elections, preparing for the coup de grace in 2018 and 2020.
Nothing happening now is new. Everything the Trump team is doing is a repeat of the Wisconsin game plan. And, so far, everything his opposition is doing is even more predictable. It’s not too late to change the defense and to play some offense.
But it’s getting late early, as Yogi Berra once said.
znModeratorThe MMQB’s Super Bowl Predictions: High Scoring and Close. And the Winner …
Will it be the Patriots’ experience? Or the Falcons’ firepower? Our staffers make their picks for Super Bowl 51, which has makings of a classichttp://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/02/04/super-bowl-51-patriots-falcons-prediction
PETER KING: I wonder what Matt Ryan and the other deserving Super Bowl rookies will be feeling in the tunnel in the moments before kickoff. Troy Aikman, the picture of cool, told me he was hyperventilating waiting to go out for his first Super Bowl appearance. No idea how Ryan will feel, but I do know it’s fruitless to ask him now. He and his Super Bowl rookie teammates won’t know till 6:32 p.m. ET at NRG Stadium. As for the game: Bill Belichick’s going to do something—early—to confound a team that doesn’t see the New England defense often. I have no idea what it’ll be. But the Falcons have scored on eight straight first possessions, and my bet is that streak ends in Super Bowl 51. As for the other side of the ball, Belichick has done a good job conserving Dion Lewis all season for just a moment like this. My hunch is Lewis is a big factor in this game. Atlanta could win and it wouldn’t surprise me a bit. But I’m betting on experience and a 39-year-old quarterback with a 33-to-4 touchdown-to-interception differential.
Patriots 27, Falcons 23ALBERT BREER: A lot of times we have that dynamic in the Super Bowl where we think it’s going to be one thing and it becomes the other. This time I think this is going to be exactly what we think it is. The Atlanta offense will be able to go up and down the field on that New England defense, because I trust in Shanahan’s ability to adjust on the fly. But I don’t trust that young Falcons defense yet. I don’t think they’re going to get the stops they need to get in the fourth quarter. And Tom Brady wins his fourth Super Bowl MVP.
Patriots 34, Falcons 31JENNY VRENTAS: The Falcons have one of the most explosive, and deepest, offenses we’ve seen in recent memory. Their speed is a huge threat to the Patriots defense, especially if they spread them out with three wides and both of their versatile RBs in the backfield. But I just can’t pick against the Patriots’ experience. Belichick and Brady have been here six times before and know how to handle everything, right down to the longer halftime cooling off period. Look for the Patriots to put Malcolm Butler on Mohamed Sanu one-on-one and double Julio Jones all game long and slow that Atlanta offense; on offense, Tom Brady will be ready to expose any small mistake by a young Falcons D.
Patriots 31, Falcons 27ROBERT KLEMKO: Too many weapons. It’s so difficult to pick against a Belichick-coached team but these Patriots haven’t faced an offense with this many viable options in some time. This pick is contingent on Atlanta scoring early and maintaining a lead with its run game. If the Patriots can score in the first quarter – something they’ve failed to do in each of their six trips to the Super Bowl – all bets are off.
Falcons 34, Patriots 31ANDY BENOIT: These are two prolific offenses going up against bend-but-don’t-break defenses. That means the scoring drives will be long, which keeps the final score a little lower. This could very well be a “whoever has the ball last”-type game. The Falcons, I believe, are the more dangerous and explosive all-around team, but let’s not forget: The Patriots, who have a great quick-strike passing game, were also third in rushing this season and led the league in 30-plus-yard completions. They can beat you in a lot of ways, too.
Falcons 31, Patriots 28EMILY KAPLAN: It’s well-worn but true: To beat the Patriots, you need to pressure Tom Brady. I’m confident the Falcons, led by Vic Beasley, can sustain enough of a pass-rush to disrupt New England’s quarterback. The key to this game is which defense can do enough to slow the other offense. The Falcons aren’t going to shut the Patriots’ offense down, and I’m not sure anyone can interfere with Atlanta’s firepower. When Kyle Shanahan’s crew is in rhythm—remember, their even-handed rushing attack is as impressive as anything Matt Ryan and Julio Jones can do—they are without equal.
Falcons 31, Patriots 24TIM ROHAN: Give Bill Belichick and Matt Patricia two weeks to prepare for a game, and they can figure out any team, even the Falcons, who have one of the most prolific offenses in NFL history. Give Tom Brady and Josh McDaniels two weeks to prepare for a game, and they’ll find ways to exploit the Falcons’ young defense. Experience wins out this time. Brady wins his fifth title and stares down Goodell as he cradles the trophy.
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