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znModeratorThe irony is
We will not lack for that in the news, I think….
znModeratorWell thank you.
Except to be honest I don’t think I so much LOVE the Rams, as much as I am stuck in an obsessive mutual abuse thing.
But, that too is deserving of a nice valentine’s wish, I think.
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znModeratorTrump’s White House Has No Idea How to Handle This Mess
The Russia story does not end with Michael Flynn.http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a53124/michael-flynn-russia-details/
Remember bombshells? Not the blonde WWII variety, or the actual explosive devices, but rather, the big newspaper stories that would explode, seemingly out of nowhere, initially sounding so preposterous that more than a few people wondered if the reporting was unsound or even fictitious. As it happens these days, we’re all living downrange from freaking artillery practice and one bombshell sounds pretty much like all the others when you’re a civilian looking for some foxhole into which you can dive to get out of the relentless torrent of crazy that’s detonating on top of us every news cycle.
This, for example, from The Washington Post, is a legitimate bombshell.
The acting attorney general informed the Trump White House late last month that she believed Michael Flynn had misled senior administration officials about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States, and warned that the national security adviser was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail, current and former U.S. officials said. The message, delivered by Sally Q. Yates and a senior career national security official to the White House counsel, was prompted by concerns that Flynn, when asked about his calls and texts with the Russian diplomat, had told Vice President-elect Mike Pence and others that he had not discussed the Obama administration sanctions on Russia for its interference in the 2016 election, the officials said. It is unclear what the White House counsel, Donald McGahn, did with the information. In the waning days of the Obama administration, James R. Clapper Jr., who was the director of national intelligence, and John Brennan, the CIA director at the time, shared Yates’s concerns and concurred with her recommendation to inform the Trump White House. They feared that “Flynn had put himself in a compromising position” and thought that Pence had a right to know that he had been misled, according to one of the officials, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.
Incoming!
And, by 11 o’clock Monday night, Michael Flynn had resigned. What that means about his ongoing relationship with the president*, of course, is anybody’s guess.
A couple of things. First, Sally Yates turns out to be an even bigger hero than we thought she was when she made the stand that got her fired on the immigration order. (And, one wonders what else was up with that now, too.) Second, I know it’s hard to believe either Clapper or Brennan as far as you can throw a federal courthouse, but they had absolutely no reason to align themselves with Yates’ concerns except out of a legitimate concern for the national security. Third, anyone fantasizing about what it would take to get the president* out of the White House and back on NBC where he belongs now has to factor in that Mike Pence is tainted by this dangerous nonsense, too.
At the very least, as people from Indiana warned us, the man is a dolt. Per the Post:
For Yates and other officials, concerns about the communications peaked in the days after the Obama administration on Dec. 29 announced measures to punish Russia for what it said was the Kremlin’s interference in the election to help Trump. After the sanctions were rolled out, the Obama administration braced itself for the Russian retaliation. To the surprise of many U.S. officials, Russian President Vladimir Putin announced on Dec. 30 that there would be no response. Trump praised the decision on Twitter. Intelligence analysts began to search for clues that could help explain Putin’s move. The search turned up Kislyak’s communications, which the FBI routinely monitors, and the phone call in question with Flynn, a retired Army lieutenant general with years of intelligence experience. From that call and subsequent intercepts, FBI agents wrote a secret report summarizing Flynn’s discussions with Kislyak. Yates, then the deputy attorney general, considered Flynn’s comments in the intercepted call to be “highly significant” and “potentially illegal,” according to an official familiar with her thinking.
OK, so nobody’s ever been prosecuted under the Logan Act. Still, the idea that this walking hunk of kompromat was the National Security Advisor for as long as he was beggars belief. (Maybe populist champion Jill Stein can shed some light on what they talked about at that gala dinner in Moscow?) There are still a number of huge, festering problems with this situation; Flynn’s lack of credibility and obvious crackpottery were only the most glaring of them.
(By all accounts, Flynn was a good soldier until Radical Islamic Terrorism™ sent him off the deep end. I recall Sherlock Holmes’ assessment of the career of Colonel Sebastian Moran, an honorable soldier who became Moriarty’s second-in-command—that there are some trees “which grow to a certain height and then suddenly develop some unsightly eccentricity.”)
There is the simple fact that nobody in this White House seemed to know fck-all about how to handle this situation. It is also a problem for democracy to have the unelected bureaucrats of the intelligence community at war with an elected president, no matter what you think of the president* or how he got elected. Sooner or later, I fear, the military’s going to get dragged into this fiasco and that will make things immeasurably worse.
It was more than simply time for Flynn to go. It’s time for the country to know everything about the involvement of Russia in the 2016 presidential election, if only to clear the air so somebody can govern the country. It’s time for a halt to the bombardment so we can all get the lay of the land again, if and when the smoke ever clears.
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znModeratorvery nice looking dog, looks a lot to me like an Australian Shepherd. Are they related?
Yep Bondi is an Australian Shepherd. A mini aussie. Minis are about 35 pounds.
Happy to hear you survived the Winter Wonderland.
znModeratorGood story about the snow blower.
That’s a good dump. Did you have much snow on the ground before the blizzard hit? Hope it’s not too wet, shoveling wet snow is brutal.
It is very soft dry snow. Easy to shovel. I had it easy. There was some snow on the ground already but not in the driveway. I busted a belt in the snow blower on Friday, so up to that point, I was on top of it. The problem, really, is that the town snow plows always create a huge ridge at the end of the driveway. That’s the hard part. I am in a cul de sac and they decided that Point Terminus for plowing back here is to block my driveway, with extreme prejudice.
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znModeratorRams’ new QBs coach thinks ceiling is ‘really high’ for Jared Goff
Alden Gonzalez
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Greg Olson ran the Oakland Raiders’ offense while Jared Goff navigated through his freshman and sophomore seasons at Cal, their stadiums only 12 miles apart. Olson studied Goff closely then, from 2013 to ’14. He saw talent and promise.
“Nothing that I’ve watched so far has deterred me from that same evaluation,” Olson said. “I’m just real excited to get a chance to get with him and have a chance to work with him.”
Olson is the Los Angeles Rams quarterbacks coach, so it isn’t a reach to call him the franchise’s most important assistant. His job is to work with Goff; to correct the issues that plagued his rookie season and to tap into the raw ability that made him the No. 1 overall pick in 2016. Olson believes the ceiling is “really high” for Goff, four months removed from his 22nd birthday. He sees “tremendous arm talent,” a phrase Olson used often.
“That’s the start, in my opinion,” Olson said during a meet-and-greet with assistant coaches from the Rams’ facility on Friday. “When you look at evaluating the position, it’s, ‘What kind of arm talent does that player have?’ Certainly a very intelligent player when you look at his test scores and what he was able to do as a student. I just think there’s a lot of intangibles that we’ve all heard about him growing up, from high school through college and the NFL. Tremendous work ethic. So, there’s a lot of things there.”
Olson has spent 15 years in the NFL as either an offensive coordinator or a quarterbacks coach or both. He will work under offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur, the former Redskins and Falcons quarterbacks coach. Both will answer to 31-year-old head coach Sean McVay, who spent the past three years as the Redskins’ offensive coordinator.
The three bring a wealth of experience working with NFL quarterbacks, which runs in stark contrast to the Rams’ coaching staff under Jeff Fisher. But the message to Goff must be consistent, and McVay expects that to happen organically. He worked with LaFleur with the Redskins from 2010 to ’13, where they were influenced by Kyle Shanahan. And he worked alongside Olson with the Buccaneers in 2008, where they were groomed by Jon Gruden.
LaFleur, who was expected to join the rest of the Rams’ coaches on Monday, helped make Robert Griffin III the Offensive Rookie of the Year in 2012 and Matt Ryan the MVP in 2016. McVay said that “a lot of the things that we do philosophically will be very similar.” He called Olson “a great communicator.”
“I don’t think you can have enough good coaches in the building,” McVay said. “We’re going to create an environment where it’s about all of us working together.”
Olson worked with Rex Grossman (22nd overall) and Derek Carr (36th) as rookies. He helped Blake Bortles (third overall), Blaine Gabbert (10th) and Josh Freeman (17th) make strides as second-year players, and he guided Joey Harrington (third overall) through two of his best seasons as a third- and fourth-year starter.
“With these young players,” Olson said, “the quicker they get in and get assimilated to an offensive scheme, and have a chance to get with their coordinator and get with their head coach, and really learn the offense, the better chance they’ll have for success. It certainly wasn’t an ideal situation, the fact that he’s going on his second coordinator and his second head coach in his second year in the league. But the potential is very high.”
Goff came from an Air Raid offense in which he never took a snap from under center and never really communicated a play from the huddle. He struggled through training camp, hardly challenging Case Keenum for the starting job, and he didn’t become the starter until Week 11. Over the last seven games, all losses, Goff had the NFL’s fewest yards per attempt (5.31), second-worst Total QBR (22.2), fourth-worst completion percentage (54.6) and fourth-lowest touchdown-to-interception ratio (0.71).
Goff threw to an underwhelming group of receivers, took snaps behind an inferior offensive line and ran a scheme that didn’t function properly, regardless of the quarterback. But Goff himself didn’t make sound decisions and didn’t complete routine throws. Olson also believes Goff was at a disadvantage because he spent a significant portion of the season receiving limited snaps as a backup.
The key to his development, Olson said, is “being comfortable within a system.”
“That’s the big part. With Sean’s system, and with Matt coming in, I just think it’s going to be really critical that he has a chance to learn the system and get comfortable within that system. The more comfortable he gets with it, then certainly the more confidence he’ll be able to play with, and then you’ll be able to reach that potential.”
znModeratorTwo pics. One shows my progress at this point digging out the driveway. Once that’s done, ironically, I can then drive to the repair shop and pick up the snow blower, which is fixed now. I know others have it worse so I only note this for the sake of the humor.
The other pic is a happy Bondi (“bawn-dye”)coming back from a successful “outside” trip. He’s jogging the best he can back up the snow furrow he made himself.


znModeratori could see in certain situations phillips taking brockers out and lining up 3 pass rushers with outside linebackers on either side ready to rush the passer. offenses would have a hard time figuring out who to block.
That’s the Shurmur Eagle defense.
Basically a 2/5.
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NFL Guru: Defensive coordinator Fritz Shurmur
The Birthplace of the Zone BlitzFritz Shurmur’s Eagle Defense: The Birthplace of the Zone Blitz
The NFL has had several geniuses when it comes to coaches. Yet when it comes to coordinators many have not received their due nor have any made the Pro Football Hall of Fame based on their contributions. One such coach that did receive Hall of Fame consideration was Dick LeBeau (enshrined in 2011 as a player), who as a long time defensive coordinator has been credited (with Dom Capers) for creating the zone blitz in the modern NFL. Yes Pittsburgh became Blitzburgh but the true zone blitz, as a scheme, came from the mind of Fritz Shurmur. Another assistant deserving enshrinement in Canton.
In 1989, Shurmur was the defensive coordinator of the Los Angeles Rams. When the team suffered multiple injuries along the front line, yet had all their linebackers healthy, necessity became the mother of invention. His team employed a 3-4 defense that featured Kevin Greene, who had back to back 16.5 sacks in 1988 and 1989 (thanks Kevin), coming off the corner. Yet going into the wildcard matchup as an underdog, Shurmur decided to go with emphasizing his linebackers over his linemen and came up with a 2 down lineman 5 linebacker set up to confuse Randall Cunningham.
You have to understand that this was Randall Cunningham at the height of his career, in fact the next year 1990, he was the NFL’s MVP. However in 1989 he was on his way to stardom when he electrified a national audience on a Monday night by shaking off a hit by New York Giant Carl Banks, and throwing a touchdown to TE Jimmie Giles. He was a threat that ran for nearly 1,000 yards in the following year. He was John Elway 2.0 and the league was having serious problems in defending against such an athletic talent at QB.
In 1989 he led the Eagles in rushing with 621 yards while throwing for 3,400 yards 23 TDs and only 16 interceptions. The Eagles had won 5 of their final 6 games in 1989 and wanted to make amends in the playoffs for their 1988 playoff Fog Bowl loss in Chicago. Although they lost a toe to toe battle with the defending champion San Francisco 49ers in the regular season, the Eagles believed they could play with anyone and wanted a rematch with Joe Montana and company. But first they had to get through a wild card battle with the Los Angeles Rams, whom they taunted in the papers heading into the game. How would Shurmur defend Randall??
Shurmur opted for speed and confusion. One of the first items for a quarterback to determine is who the Mike (Middle) linebacker is. This is to set not only the blocking schemes but where the focal point to how the offense could attack the defense. Well the Rams shifted into their “Eagle” defense where OLBs Kevin Greene #91, Mel Owens #58, and Mike Wilcher #54 manned the outside with ILBs Larry Kelm #52, and Fred Strickland #53 were supplemented by either Brett Faryniarz #51 or George Bethune #57.
You have to understand the Rams weren’t doing this as a nickel defense, they were doing this on first and second downs also. Strickland would take the role of ‘nose-backer’ sometimes lining up as a nose tackle 1 yard off the ball and then would stand up to join the other four linebackers in a stand up position. They played a cat and mouse game as to who was the Mike on most plays.
Along with the outside linebackers taking a page out of Buddy Ryan’s 46 defense and stacking two OLBs over the tight end. The Rams jumped on the Eagles 14-0 in the first quarter forcing Philadelphia to pass. There were plays where Los Angeles would have as many as 4 linebackers lined up on one side of the formation yet only rushed one with a blitzing DB. Along with confusing Cunningham from an alignment standpoint, Shurmur drew up defenses that had DE Mike Piel #95 either dropping or spying.
With an array of blitzes off the corner and so much speed on the field to chase Cunningham, once he scrambled, had one of his worst days. The Eagles had little continuity and one of the reason the offense couldn’t adjust was the untimely death of Eagle quarterback coach Doug Scovil just a week prior to the game. Without his working confidante, Randall and Buddy Ryan’s offense couldn’t adjust as Kevin Greene recorded 2 sacks and hurried him into a 24 of 40 for 238 yards, 1 interception performance and no splash plays whatsoever.
Once the game was over and the Rams danced out of Philadelphia’s Veteran’s Stadium 21-7 winners, the league took notice of Shurmur’s masterpiece. Every other coordinator running a 3-4 during that time employed some of the same tactics Fritz pioneered. At the time it was thought by pundits that they couldn’t employ that gimmicky type of defense against a down hill running team.
In fact their next opponents would be exactly that style of offense and many waited for the Rams to sign a DL during the week, and when they didn’t, knew they’d see the defense again. An underdog for a second consecutive playoff game they traveled to the Meadowlands where Ottis “OJ” Anderson and the New York Giants would run into the belly of the Rams “Eagle” defense. No way could they win a second cold weather road game…right??
In this first vignette, you see the Eagle defense against the Giants on a sweep play. Notice how Shurmur has “nose backer” Strickland #53 off the ball? A concept borrowed from Tom Landry’s defensive tackle position in his Flex Defense, allowing Strickland to use his speed and agility against New York center Bart Oates.
On this play you recognize the cat and mouse game Shurmur’s defense is playing with Phil Simms. Not only does ‘nose backer’ Fred Strickland #53 line up over center in a 3 point stance, he then stands up to give the Rams 4 standing linebackers from the center to the weak side of the formation. Who’s coming?? Who’s dropping?? Simms is so rattled at this point he overthrows Lionel Emanuel and the boo birds were out in the Meadowlands.
On this play you’ll notice that SS Michael Stewart is up on the line to the strong side yet Shurmur still employed twin outside linebackers to the top of the screen in Mel Owens #58 and Mike Wilcher #54. With the two linebackers up near the line of scrimmage they have to be accounted for by the Giants front line. You’ll notice they engage the OL which kept them from sliding their blocking attention to Kevin Greene who runs over FB Maurice Carthon #44.
Since they were in a 2TE max protection, the only outlet for Simms to throw to as he scrambles to his left is Ottis Anderson #24, yet the aforementioned Owens (who backed off after engaging Giant T Jumbo Elliot) and ILB Larry Kelm were sitting right there. With nowhere to throw the ball, time was up and Greene was right there for the sack. Genius
The Rams had been losing 6-0 when the Giants, late in the second quarter, uncharacteristically threw into the teeth of the Eagle defense and an interception set the Rams up to take a 7-6 lead at the half. The biggest play in the game and the turning point that allowed the Rams to upset the Giants 19-13. On this final play DE Mike Piel #95 drops off in the weak flat along with LB Strickland, lined up in 3 point stance in front of Giants guard William Roberts, who also drops.
George Bethune #57, takes over as the ‘nose backer with Brett Faryniarz #51 rushing from the weak-side along with Greene #91 on the strong side. Since Strickland’s first step is forward, Roberts #66 has to honor his charge and not help out LT Jumbo Elliot. He has no one to block!! Greene and Faryniarz’s rush is so strong Simms has to get rid of the ball and Jerry Gray, zoning away from RB Dave Meggett, tips the pass that Michael Stewart intercepts. You also notice that Meggett’s “scat” route was to his right and away from the DE that dropped in the weak flat. Shurmur fielded ONE DL and didn’t rush him!! In a nickel defense?? Think about that for a second…
This was a masterpiece performance by a true NFL genius in Fritz Shurmur. The ’89 Rams fell to the eventual Super Bowl champion San Francisco 49ers in the NFC Championship and this defense never got the attention the 46 defense, the Steel Curtain, or the Ravens defense did because they didn’t win it all. Had they beat the 49ers and then the Broncos to win Super Bowl XXIV, this defense would have gone down in history. Yet what is interesting is this defense had it’s prime note taker in Giant defensive coordinator and current Patriot coach Bill Belichick.
How do we know this??
He used the 2 man front 1 year later in Super Bowl XXV to stop the Buffalo Bills to win that trophy. Just last year he used the defense with 5 standing players to force NY Jet QB Mark Sanchez into several interceptions. He used it against Tim Tebow also in both the regular season win and again in the playoffs. What Shurmur started in the 1989 playoffs live on to this day in a few 3-4 defenses. One centerpiece to this defense was Kevin Greene who moved on to the Pittsburgh Steelers in 1993 to help form Blitzburgh. Surely Greene took his playbook with him to Pittsburgh and may have shared some of these principles with Steeler coaches.
EPILOGUE: As for Shurmur, he moved on to become a champion defensive coordinator with the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XXXI with Mike Holmgren. You want to hear about the ties that bind?? From the late 80s into the early 90’s, Mike Holmgren was the offensive coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers while Fritz Shurmur was his nemesis counterpart within the division for the Rams. Trust us…going into that 1989 NFC Championship it wasn’t a forgone conclusion that the Niners would win.
In fact, in ’89 the Rams won game 2, 13-12 in Candlestick and even though the Rams lost the NFC Championship to SF, they returned to San Francisco the following year. In that game the ‘Niners were 10-0 and the Rams were 3-7 when the Rams hammered them 28-17 when the Niners were trying to 3peat. So when Holmgren took the head coaching job in Green Bay he took Fritz Shurmur with him. Shurmur followed Holmgren to Seattle in 1999.
However he passed away before the 1999 season. Yet now as the Cleveland Browns GM, Holmgren hired current head coach Pat Shurmur, who is the nephew of Fritz. Shurmur developed other defenses that we will give mention to in the near future yet this 1989 run with his “Eagle defense” was his masterpiece. Even though he went on to coach a 4-3 in Green Bay, his use and expertise to adapt to personnel turned his 3-4 into a juggernaut that nearly stole an NFL title.
znModeratorwhat do you mean by 4 man dl rushes?
you mean playing without a traditional nose tackle lined up?
Well they played the NT 56% of the time. There is no other NT on their roster who got appreciable playing time. So yes this is what I meant– YOU: “you mean playing without a traditional nose tackle lined up?” Just using basic logic (which is no sub for actually knowing but still), either
1. they were in 4 man rush packages a lot of the rest of the time, using DEs as DTs
2 or, they subbed at NT using DEs and it just doesn’t show up in the numbers
3 or, (most likely) both
4 or, and this one is not serious, they just played a 2-man DL 44% of the time. (Yeah kidding.)
And btw I draw no real conclusions from any of that. Phillips is very big on tailoring to the personnel. So, he used what he had Denver at DL the way he could, and he may do something completely different in LA because the personnel is completely different.
znModeratorIt’s the conspiracy. But they’re on it.
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February 12, 2017 at 1:35 am in reply to: McVay, Phillips, + new assistant coaches…vids & transcripts, 2/10 & 2/15 #65225
znModeratorWade Phillips Meets the Media
Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips talks about switching the Rams to a 3-4 defense and being an attacking defense.
znModerator.A number of observers noted that Manchin’s daughter, Heather Bresch, was chief executive of the pharmaceutical company Mylan when it dramatically hiked the price of EpiPens. The matter is currently being investigated by the Department of Justice, which Sessions will now helm”
I don’t know if evil is banal, as Arendt said. It sure is smug though.
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znModeratorhat’s it, I’ll blame zn for what goes wrong in the world as well.
zn lost his snow blower to the repair shop on the weekend of the state’s biggest blizzard. (Namely, THIS weekend._
So, whatever power I presumably have, it sure ain’t workin so good.

znModerator. Boudreau said he holds a lot because he has bad footwork allowing the rusher to get him off balance which forces him to grab. Footwork and technique have always been his issues.
Just adding to this. Here’s the direct quotation fwiw (the article starting this thread has part of this but not all of it):
link: http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2016/11/have_the_los_angeles_rams_reac.html
“It’s been a learning curve for him from the beginning,” Boudreau told espn.com. “Recently, it’s just a matter of his technique. He’s all over the place with his feet; he’s all over the place with his hands. And when he gets in trouble, when he stops his feet, he grabs and he gets those holding penalties that you really don’t need. So he’s got to concentrate on focusing on the little things.”
Boudreau said Robinson feels like he’s let the team down with his play recently.
“If he wasn’t down, then we’ve picked the wrong guy,” Boudreau said. “If it doesn’t bother him, then we got the wrong guy. I want it to be something that it’s important to him, and he wants to be the best. If he’s just coming here and collecting a paycheck, then we got the wrong guy. But he’s not that guy. I’ve had those guys. He’s not that guy. He’s a prideful kid; he wants to do well. We just have to turn the corner with him.”
znModeratorGoff has a fan in new Rams quarterback coach Greg Olson
By Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-coaching-staff-20170210-story.html
He has been entrusted with developing the cornerstone of the franchise, a player the Rams mortgaged their future to acquire.
New quarterbacks coach Greg Olson said Friday that he was looking forward to working with second-year pro Jared Goff, the No. 1 pick in the 2016 draft.
“I’m really excited about the challenge with that,” Olson said during an introductory event for Coach Sean McVay’s new staff at the Rams’ training facility at Cal Lutheran, “but it certainly is a much easier challenge when you have talented player.”
Olson — along with McVay and offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur — is part of a triumvirate charged with turning Goff into a productive player, if not a star.
After trading six draft picks last April to select Goff first overall, the Rams finished 4-12 last season. They featured the NFL’s worst offense for the second season in a row under former coach Jeff Fisher and his staff.
Goff was inactive for the opener and sat the bench for eight games behind journeyman Case Keenum. He started the final seven games but struggled mightily at times, passing for five touchdowns, with seven interceptions, and finishing without a victory.
Now Goff will transition from a coaching staff that featured a quarterbacks coach with one year of NFL experience to a staff full of coaches with pedigrees developing NFL passers.
Olson, 53, worked with Drew Brees at Purdue and in the NFL with Derek Carr of the Raiders and Blake Bortles of the Jaguars among others.
LaFleur, 37, spent the last two seasons as quarterbacks coach for the Atlanta Falcons, where he worked with NFL most valuable player Matt Ryan in the league’s highest-scoring offense.
And McVay, 31, tutored Kirk Cousins as offensive coordinator for the Washington Redskins.
“It’s very important for all of us to be on the same page,” McVay said when asked how the three will handle Goff, adding. “We’ll all be on the same rhythm as far as what we’re communicating to Jared, what the expectations are.”
Olson will work directly with Goff.
Olson, who has coached in the NFL for 15 seasons, said Goff has “unbelievable arm talent; he’s had that since high school — a very talented player with a ton of potential.” – Olson evaluated Goff when he played at California, and has spent the last few weeks watching his Goff’s performances last season.
“Nothing that I have watched so far has deterred me from that evaluation,” Olson said.
Goff took first-team snaps in rookie camp last spring but was otherwise relegated to back-up status throughout organized-team activities and training camp. He took first-team reps one day during the bye week but did not do so again until he was named the starter in Week 11.
“It wasn’t a great situation,” Olson said, adding that Goff will go into his second season with a year of experience and a full complement of starter’s reps during the spring and summer.
“There should be a huge jump from Year 1 to Year 2,” he said of Goff’s anticipated performance.
Much of the progress, he said, would come from Goff’s ability to process and communicate play-calls in the huddle, something he — and many other college quarterbacks — are not required to do in spread systems in college.
“A lot of things he was doing at Cal, he did it at the line of scrimmage with one-word codes,” Olson said. “There’s a little bit more to that in the NFL.”
McVay met with Goff last month during the interview process before he was hired. Olson has spoken by phone with Goff. LaFleur, who was hired this week, is due to arrive in Southern California next week.
Coaches cannot meet with players until off-season workouts officially begin in April.
The Rams’ offense is expected to include “West Coast” concepts and elements that were featured in attacks used by McVay with the Washington Redskins and by Kyle Shanahan with the Falcons.
This will be the third offensive system in three years for Goff.
“It’s going to be real critical that he has a chance to learn the system and get comfortable within that system,” Olson said. “And the more comfortable he gets with it, then certainly the more confidence he’ll be able to play with.
“And then you’ll be able to reach that potential.”
The offensive line also must improve for Goff to progress.
Offensive line coach Aaron Kromer said he was evaluating tape of players and was encouraged by their youth and individual skills. He said he would not be able to form opinions about left tackle Greg Robinson and others until he has the opportunity to work with them on the field.
“We’re looking for football intelligence, we’re looking for guys that want to compete and guys that communicate,” he said. “We want someone we can sit down with and have a football conversation with, so we can interact and help each other become better.
“And if we can get that, then you have a good offensive line.”
The Rams ranked ninth in the NFL in defense last season. Now the unit is under the direction of 40-year NFL veteran Wade Phillips, most recently the architect of the Denver Broncos’ powerful defenses.
Phillips said he favored a 3-4 scheme because “you have three linemen and somebody else is coming from somewhere” in what is most of the time a four-man rush.
“It gives an advantage of not knowing, protection-wise,” Phillips said of the opposition.
Defensive line coach Bill Johnson takes over a unit that includes three-time Pro Bowl tackle Aaron Donald and two-time Pro Bowl end Robert Quinn among others.
“You can tell they’re the nucleus of this football team right now,” Johnson said of the line. “They’re very productive.
“The one thing I’ve really been encouraged about and excited about is they’re such a fine mesh unit. They get along with each other. They’re friends, they’re buddies. They’re more than just teammates. It’s a great situation.”
znModeratorHacksaw_64… wrote this:
Personally, I was zoomed in on Grob most of the year.
After last year he was certainly on my watch list for questionable players.
I did like the fact that he went to work on his technique in the off-season with Le Charles Bentley because he was getting beat so bad in pass pro out of his stance in 2015. He had to play with better balance. Bentley grades Grob much differently this season than PFF. I tend to agree with Le Charles here.
In the 2016 season Grob played much better in pass pro. Light years better than 2015. I could tell he had been putting in the work in balance, stance, hands tech and working on focus. He wasn’t quite there yet but he was definitely progressing.
By the way did you know Grob just turned 24 in October. (He is the same age as Carson Wentz ) BTW Imagine Carson Wentz asked to come into the league and start at QB from a system if he only ran 8 plays in college.
GRob was said to be a project when we drafted him with elite upside. I just don’t think anyone especially myself understood how much of a project he was.
But he does have elite upside.
Unlike Jason Smith who could not block the Rams 3rd string DE from day one in camp. In fact he was around him and sacking the QB by the time he was getting out of his stance. And this was at RT have you! And this was not just one occasion. It was 9 out of ten snaps until the decided to hide him with a mysterious injury. 😳
Grob can flat out stone a guy on an island. No TE help needed . One on one. He can do it with some nasty too. He loves to finish with nasty. That’s where he’s been running into problems. And I don’t think its all bad. We don’t want to take that out of his game. We just need to have him channel it better.
You want a OT that finishes off blocks right?(See OP and the Pancake) Shows aggression to the second level?
Grob drew the ire of fans(myself one of them) and possibly his worst flag of the year for running downfield on what was actually a broken play and a QB scramble by Goff, where Grob decided to get himself upfield and to the second level and knocked down a safety or a LB.
Honestly, as an OL coach I wish my entire OL played with this attitude 100 % of the time the entire year.
I see effort, I always see aggressiveness, I definitely see talent. I saw definite progress in blatant holding. He dialed it back significantly this year. I think a lot of you guys would agree many of the calls were pretty marginal especially compared to last season. I would call that progress. It was visible to me. He was arm baring people last season. This season half of the calls were a joke.
As mad as I was. I am not sure I want to take the bite out the dog. It the trainer’s fault not the dogs.
I’ve seen GRob after destroying his block, come off his guy and take the next man and literally rag doll a 320lb DL on his back. Right now he likes to throw or push people. With the zebras all over him he’s likely to draw a flag if he doesn’t do it right(if he grabs any jersey at all). I really think he needs to learn the “Pancake”
I don’t see any physical limitations AT ALL with Grob playing LT. He has the feet, quickness, length , strength, and power to play the position. In fact he is clearly and by a mile our best LT. Saffold was a complete disaster compared to Grob. When he gets his technique right in pass pro like he started doing in 2016 he looks like a a complete natural at LT.
The only thing I can see that will hold him back is mental discipline or lacktherof. Because that’s the element of his game he has to refine. He went from totally lacking in 2015 to working hard on it with marked progress and still plenty of lapses to clean up in 2016. Unfortunately once you get to the NFL the game is different. Its 90% mental. Everyone has elite talent. Very few elite college athlletes have great NFL pro career’s purely on talent.
From what I have heard from Grob interview wise, he sounds very very young on the maturity gauge if I had to rate him. I really think in player development you HAVE to take this into consideration.
A one size all approach in coaching and player development imo is grossly inneffective in this day and age.
He was drafted young. He is actually very young age wise. I really believe he is probably young emotionally. Which really works in our favor. When he does indeed mature and grow up and start to get it things are going to become a lot easier for him.
I think he is being handled completely the wrong way. And believe me I am the last one to suggest “babying” somebody. That is not the point I am making here.
You have to support the kid. You decided to draft this huge freaking project. Then you must dedicate every possible resource necessary to support the ongoing success of the project. Whatever that requires.
I really wish we had some veteran leadership on this team. Somebody needs to take this kid under his wing and show him the ropes as a pro. Mentor him. Build him up. I’m not sure tearing him down is at all helpful at this point.
Unfortunately Grob is not plug and play Ghavenstein. But if you could put Havs brain in Grobs body you would have an instant Hofer. I’m not sure I want to see Grobs brain in Havs body.
But the last thing I am going to do to Grob is to publicly scapegoat him. And bench him in front of his family??? That has to make him feel just awesome about dedicating his life to the film room.
I have no idea what is happening behind the scenes. But I am pretty sure this is the last thing I am going to do with this kid. I am certainly not going to put my future franchise QB in jeopardy by starting Andrew Donnal at LT. That was a risk I would never take.
Behind the scenes have at em. Schedule, routine, film room etc. make him so on time and disciplined he’s “swiss watch” level.
I honestly don’t believe we have a Brian Quick developmental project here.
The only real question for Grob moving forward and I can’t answer it for him, is he willing to do whatever it takes at this point to get better?
If that answer is NO then its time to move on.
If that answer is Yes, then The Rams have no one to blame but themselves if he isn’t playing progressively better next season
February 11, 2017 at 2:24 pm in reply to: McVay, Phillips, + new assistant coaches…vids & transcripts, 2/10 & 2/15 #65212
znModeratorAssistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Barry talks about his excitement level in coaching linebacker Alec Ogletree.
This is really top top praise. Give it a listen.
February 11, 2017 at 2:23 pm in reply to: McVay, Phillips, + new assistant coaches…vids & transcripts, 2/10 & 2/15 #65211
znModeratorJoe Barry Meets the Media
Assistant head coach/linebackers coach Joe Barry talks about his excitement level in coaching linebacker Alec Ogletree.
http://www.therams.com/videos/videos/Joe-Barry-Meets-the-Media/f07b7b9e-1db6-4cf4-b9e2-0e34ce8b61d8
znModeratorThe problem is your “premise” (ie. peconception) is refuted by science.
You guys are making my so called “premise” far more complicated than it actually is.
“Hard wired” or not children need to be taught (parents, peers, education, etc) what they may or may not be “hard wired” to do. They are born not knowing how to access innate traits that separate them from other species. In a word they are not born selfless even though they may have the “capacity” to become so. It is my belief that a child that is taught compassion and empathy for others does not lose that character simply because of a corrupt society and a child that is not taught such character does not acquire it simply because of a more civilized society.
What you seem not to be responding to at all is that whatever infants are in regards to anything, that’s not the human brain you’re seeing. The human brain changes and develops. Meaning, NOT that it is at birth a small version of what it will be later, like a puppy is small dog that just needs time to grow. A brain is incomplete at birth–it is wired to BECOME something different from what it is at first, to add on to what it is.
And the evidence is abundant that children develop deep hard-wired capacities for sympathetic and empathetic responses. Those things are just there. It is wired to do that, that is how it works. It’s not just parents teaching it, it’s there to be cultivated.
So the actual argument (or, mine anyway) is that it does not matter in the least how children are when they are BORN. The evidence–and it’s solid and abundant—is that the brain is developmental, it is not all “there” at birth, and that yes an innate, hard-wired capacity for empathetic and sympathetic responses IS built into its development.
I would even say no psychological approach to people that says “how you are born is what being human is” can work. We’re too radically bio-developmental as a species. Our brains develop. So you can’t just take what’s there at the start and say, that’s what a human person is. It would be like looking at the sprouts of a beautiful lily in early spring and saying “enh that’s not so pretty.” Well, wait. There’s more, it shows up in a process. You don’t see the flowers in the sprouts. If you project the sprouts by themselves, then lillies would just be these empty vertical stalks.
February 11, 2017 at 11:37 am in reply to: Jason Cole: Rams receivers did not respect Jared Goff #65202
znModerator. To me it’s obvious we need players on the outside. Seemed to me like Gurley had the best hands on the team.
Fair points.
This is not a direct response to you per se, just me running the same general direction.
If I ask, how many of the current WRs will be on the team this coming season, I just can’t answer it.
I think they could decide to pay Britt, on paper anyway it looks plausible, but then they might just want to use the money for someone else, like Garcon
Quick was a mess last year. They might try a reclaim project. I wouldn’t.
Tavon they’re keeping and McVay has even spoken of him as a multiple weapon and not just a receiver, which IMO is going the right direction: MCVAY “you look at some of the things that Tavon Austin does with the ball, both in the run-game and when he’s able to catch it as a receiver. He’s a guy that you want to move all over the formation”. As I said I think that’s the right approach to Tavon. It’s the 2015 approach. That’s my repeat mantra on Tavon—I routinely compare Tavon in 2015 to Tavon in 2016. In 2015 they used him all over the formation, running and catching. In 2016 they tried to make him more of a pure receiver…and I don’t think doing that will ever succeed. I think I hear in McVay’s words a view that;s like that.
The rest? It is impossible for me to say because they are all so new. Surely there’s a player or 2 in this bunch, though who knows how good they could be: Cooper, Marquez, Spruce, Thomas, and maybe also McRoberts and North. It;s really up in the air because they were all picked for different coaches and a different system, and from what I have read, McVay evaluates receivers completely differently than the previous guys did, he looks for different things.
So I guess it’s virtually impossible to even guess how many there will be. That’s my vote anyway.
Someone could step up, but then maybe the guys who step up are still only #2 at best, #3 or #4 WR types.
Short version: who knows.
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February 11, 2017 at 11:16 am in reply to: Rams new coaching staff filled with next generation NFL coaches #65201
znModeratorSean McVay has the right soldiers in his battle against time
Vincent Bonsignore
In a literal sense, time didn’t really start flying by faster once Sean McVay took over as the head coach of the Los Angeles Rams.
Each day is still made up of 24 hours spread across 1,440 minutes.
None of that changed a month ago when the Rams made McVay the youngest head coach in NFL history after hiring the former Washington Redskins offensive coordinator to replace Jeff Fisher.
In a figurative sense, though, it just seems like every clock McVay deals with these days is powered by liquid hydrogen. That might explain how he’s up and at ‘em at the crack of dawn each morning with a specific task to tackle first, only to glance at the clock what seems like a minute or two later and realize it’s already past 8 p.m.
Meanwhile, the thing he set out to finish first went undone.
Yet a million other things he never even accounted for got dealt with.
“You getting pulled in a bunch of different directions,” McVay said, smiling.
It’s one of the big differences he’s noticed since becoming a head coach.
Time isn’t his friend.
And surprises are lurking behind every corner.
“I think you’re just surprised by the reality of, when you sit down to do something at six in the morning and then it’s 8:30 at night and here I am ready to do that thing that I was set out to do at six in the morning,” he said.
Good thing he had the innate sense to construct a coaching staff uniquely skilled to accommodate his new reality.
Tasked with turning around a tortured franchise that hasn’t had a winning season in 13 years, injecting life into an offense for which last rites have been read more than once and developing a second-year quarterback the Rams invested six draft picks into acquiring, McVay has tripled down on the primary skill that landed him the job in the first place.
The offensive-minded and experienced McVay has surrounded himself with more than two decades worth of offensive expertise.
And specifically quarterback development experience.
Which makes sense considering the investment the Rams made in Goff and the importance in developing him into a quarterback worthy of the first pick in the 2016 draft and the face of the Rams franchise.
And the need to lift the offensive to just a respectable level in order to compliment a defense that, truthfully, is playoff caliber.
New offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur was the quarterbacks coach for the Redskins from 2010 to 2013 and Atlanta Falcons the last two seasons.
Quarterbacks coach Greg Olson has held the same position with the 49ers, Bears, Lions, Buccaneers and Jaguars and was the offensive coordinator for the Oakland Raiders for two seasons.
And new assistant wide receivers coach Even Zac Taylor was the Dolphins quarterbacks coach from 2013 to 2015.
That’s a ton of eye balls to put on the offense and even more voices and opinions on how to best develop Goff. And opinions have are already being formulated.
“The ceiling is really high with this player in my mind,” said Olson. “Unbelievable arm talent, he’s had that since high school. From being up in the Bay Area, I’ve kind of known about him. When he went to Cal, I had the chance to follow him there early on in his career at Cal. I’ve always felt like this guy’s got tremendous arm talent and that’s a start in my opinion.
“You look to evaluate this position, it’s what type of arm talent does that player have. Certainly, a very intelligent player when you look at his test scores and what he was able to do a student. I just think there are a lot of intangibles there as well. You’ve all heard about him growing up from high school, through college and in the NFL, tremendous work ethic.”
Credit McVay, though, for being savvy enough to realize the need for experienced and varied voices to carry out his vision now that a good chunk of his time will be devoted to the rest of the team each day.
“I certainly don’t know, because I’ve never experienced it, but you talk to people that have been in the role that I’m getting ready to take on, and you know you want to be involved in the offense, but there’s going to be times where you’re going to be pulled in different directions,” McVay said. “That’s why it’s very important to have Matt and Greg in place where if you’re not able to be a part of the offensive meetings, or whatever is going on, you trust that their leadership will continue to have that same messaging, so that our quarterbacks know exactly what the expectations are.”
The danger, of course, is enabling so many voices and creating a convoluted message, especially to the player the Rams have staked so much of their future.
For Goff to move forward in a steady, productive manner a bunch of coaches with track records of developing quarterbacks need to get on the same page and deliver their sermons in a unified manner.
“I think you really look at it, it’s very important for us to all be on the same page.” McVay said.
It’s up to him to formulate the lesson.
It’s on LaFleur and Olsen to articulate it.
The key will be consistency.
The good news is, McVay worked previously with both LaFleur and Olson. As a result, chemistry and symmetry should not be an issue.
And the respect is obvious.
“I got a chance to work with Coach Olson my first year in Tampa. He’s a great communicator. I really had a lot of respect for him, because when I finished playing at Miami (Ohio), he was one of the coaches who kind of took me under his wing, helped kind of guide me, and really always appreciated and watching him from afar how he communicated with his guys,” said McVay. “ He was always taking times during those periods that might not have been focused on offense, but if it’s special teams, defensive periods, he was always making sure those guys were working. He’s a guy that we’ve kept in touch throughout the course of our coaching careers. He was a guy, when he became available, wanted to get him to be a part of this staff.
“You look at (Matt) LaFleur that we’re going to be able to have as our offensive coordinator. He’s a guy that we were able to develop a really close relationship with in Washington. Detail oriented, good communicator, been around some of the most productive offenses over the last couple of years. You look at what Atlanta was able to do. A lot of the things that we do philosophically will be very similar.”
February 11, 2017 at 11:05 am in reply to: Lynch's daughter cried when he took 49ers job… + SF's unique power set-up #65199
znModerator49ers to employ unique power structure
Mike Florio
49ers to employ unique power structure
There’s a fine line between thinking outside the box and effin’ nutty. Time will tell where the new San Francisco power structure falls on that spectrum.
Officially unveiled on Thursday along with the introduction of coach Kyle Shanahan, new G.M. John Lynch explained the division of authority as follows: “I can tell you Kyle has control of the 53. I have the 90. Free agency and draft, I think I have. But, in all of those, it’s also written that, subject to approval of the other guy. And so, that’s the way we wanted it.”
If Shanahan and Lynch form a true partnership, with consensus building and compromise the norm, none of this will be an issue. If they don’t, however, the arrangement has the potential to become a mess.
As explained by Lynch, each guy has veto power over the other guy’s decision-making authority. Which means that Shanahan actually has final say over the 90-man roster, free agency, and the draft and that Lynch has final say over the 53-man roster.
More specifically, disagreements that can’t be resolved could devolve into tit-for-tat gridlock, with veto power becoming the basis for trading horses and/or mutual back-scratching and/or mutually-assured destruction.
Again, if it ever comes to that, the battle already has been lost. The goal should be to always work together, without having to pull out the contract and determine who has what power and how much of it.
Given the Baalke-Harbaugh Bay Area imbroglio, the relationship between Shanahan and Lynch is far more critical than the nuts and bolts of the power structure. So forget about the respective power of coach and G.M. and focus instead on whether they can successfully run the three-legged race.
February 10, 2017 at 11:22 pm in reply to: Phillips' scheme won't be a big adjustment (lots of very good articles here) #65193
znModeratorWade Phillips brings decades of expertise to Rams defense
MARK WHICKER
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/phillips-743780-defense-rams.html
THOUSAND OAKS – The Rams hired Wade Phillips, the NFL’s preeminent fireman.
But at first glance, nothing’s burning.
“Usually you get hired as a defensive coordinator because it’s a bad defense,” Phillips said Monday. “But that really hasn’t been the case in my last couple of jobs, and it’s not the case here.”
But you could always use a new inspector, a fresh set of eyes and ears. Phillips, 69, is here to sniff out what’s wrong behind the walls. Maybe it’s one of those invisible alcohol fires that you once saw at the Indianapolis 500, when crew members would start jumping around unaccountably.
The defense wasn’t the problem in the 4-12 nightmare of 2016. But the Rams needed it to be the solution. It was ninth in yards allowed and yards per play, and also ninth in third-down conversion.
It was 24th in sacks, 23rd in interceptions, 19th in fumbles recovered and 22nd in fumbles forced.
So it might not be a four-alarm situation, but it needs extinguishing.
“You’ve got to pick up things quick in this league,” Phillips said. “We’re going to attack. We’re coming after you. We’ve been doing this a long time, and we’ve got a system of teaching that’s been successful.”
Denver won the Super Bowl, 53 weeks ago, as Phillips’ defense laid waste to Carolina’s Cam Newton (18 for 41 passing, six sacks and an interception). In 2016 the defense remained sound, despite injuries, but the offense sputtered and the Broncos missed the playoffs.
When Coach Gary Kubiak resigned, Phillips left for the Rams, amid talk that he had fomented offense-vs.-defense discord in the locker room. Guard Max Garcia dismissed the report as “alternative facts.”
One L.A. bonus is the opportunity for Wade to be near daughter Tracy, who is a choreographer and actress, appearing in “Charlie Wilson’s War” and “Water for Elephants.”
This is Phillips’ eighth stop as a coordinator. In each case, the club gave up fewer points than it had the year before. In five cases, it gave up more than 100 fewer points than the year before.
Houston went from 427 to 278 between 2010 and 2011. San Diego went from 441 points to 313 between 2003 and 2004, and therefore went from 4-12 to 12-4.
“He puts you in a position where you can be successful,” said Chris Draft, who went from Valencia High in Placentia to Stanford and then played 12 seasons as an NFL linebacker, crossing paths with Phillips in Atlanta.
“But the best thing about him is how he connects with his players. When I moved on to other teams and I’d play his team, I’d always see him outside the locker room afterward, and he’d come over and see how I was doing. That’s what you remember about people in this business.”
Phillips said he fits his defense to the players, but only to a point. He says if Aaron Donald doesn’t suit your system, then the system isn’t working. However, the Rams will shift from a 4-3 to a 3-4. Theoretically that means William Hayes and/or Robert Quinn could play off the edge in a stand-up position, or Michael Brockers could do more time on the nose.
“This has happened a few times, where I’ll take over a 4-3 and go to a 3-4,” Phillips said. “But the 3-4 is better. You’re normally bringing four pass rushers. In a 4-3, that means all the linemen. In a 3-4, that’s three linemen plus a linebacker, but you don’t know which linebacker is coming. That causes some confusion and gives the defensive backs a better chance. Nowadays it’s all about stopping the passing game.
“We’ve led the league playing all zone, or all man. I prefer man because it’s harder to throw against it for a good percentage. But we also play a lot of matchup zone, which looks like something it’s not.”
Phillips’ dad, Bum, wore a cowboy hat and boots on the sideline, and was one of the NFL’s top characters and coaches. He took the Houston Oilers to within a whisker of two AFC championships against the powerful Pittsburgh Steelers. He admired Don Shula because “he can take his’n and beat your’n, and then he can take your’n and beat his’n.”
Wade joined his father’s staff in New Orleans when he was 27. Now his boss is Sean McVay, 31.
Last week he analyzed his generation gap with McVay, via Twitter: “I’m on Medicare and he’s on daycare.”
He smiled and said, “I’ll take credit for that one.”
Pause.
“But I did ask him before I sent it out.”
Ounce of prevention, you know.
znModeratorSo you are saying Ag is stark raving mad, then.
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vWait! Think about what you’re doing. Remember the LAST Ag. v. Sanbagger qb war? (?!)
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February 10, 2017 at 8:18 pm in reply to: McVay, Phillips, + new assistant coaches…vids & transcripts, 2/10 & 2/15 #65186
znModeratorAssistant Coach Introductions
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Rams Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips – – February 10, 2017
(On if the 3-4 defense is superior to the 4-3)
“It’s better. I’ve been in a little bit of a 4-3, I played 4-3 in college. When you have a 4-3, you have four linemen, those are the four guys that are rushing. When you have a 3-4, you have three linemen and somebody else is coming from somewhere, because it’s going to be a four-man rush most of the time. It gives an advantage of them not knowing, protection-wise. I think it helps you, pass defense-wise. If you look at our pass defenses over the years, you look at our sacks over the years; they’ve all been top of the league. And I think that’s the key of beating people is stopping the passing game in this league. That’s why I’ve stuck with the 3-4. And I added some of the 4-3 stuff and the Bears stuff that I did with (former Bears defensive coordinator) Buddy Ryan, kind of implemented it into our 3-4 thinking. The concepts are there, but we just line up a little differently.”
(On his first conversation with Head Coach Sean McVay)
“First he had talked to me and said, ‘If I get a job, would you come with me?’ I said, ‘Sure, I’d consider it.’ All of a sudden he called me and said, ‘Hey, I got the Rams job, could you come? I said, ‘Well, okay, let’s talk about it.’ So we worked it out, it was great.”
(On what was so appealing about this job)
“I always liked the Rams. I’ve been in the league, this is my 40th year. I can remember Jack Youngblood and all those guys. In fact, when I first started, we were in the same division – I was with the Saints and we played them in the same division. It was always a neat franchise, so I enjoyed that about it and now that they’ve come back. I love being out here because my daughter is out here. We hadn’t been with her in a while, so we’re excited about that.”
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Rams Special Teams Coordinator John Fassel –– February 10, 2017
(On what it means to be back with the Rams organization)
“I’m very fortunate, really. I’m super happy to be back. Coach McVay invited me back, it took about half a second to say yes, because this is where I wanted to be. To be here with the new staff, it kind of feels like you’re joining a new team, even though I’ve been here now in my sixth year. It’s a fun, fresh start. Very grateful to be back, and looking forward to seeing what we can do.”
(On the conversation with Head Coach Sean McVay asking him to stay with the team)
“I talked to him on the phone before he came down and got introduced at his press conference. He said he’s heard things about me that have been pretty good and he wanted to talk to me the day he got introduced as the head coach. So, I came up here from down south. We had about a five minute conversation, while he was getting pulled and tugged everywhere else and he said, ‘I want you to stay here and be a Ram,’ and I said, ‘Thank you, I do too.’ That was about the extent of it. Real quick conversation and I was very happy.”
(On his initial impressions of McVay)
“The impression is, you don’t even think about the age. You see a guy who’s energetic. You see a guy who’s mature. You see a guy, so far, that’s taking charge of staff meetings and whole team meetings, and really put together a great staff. I’m super excited to work with him. I think he’s going to be great for the team.”
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Rams Assistant Head Coach/Linebackers Joe Barry –– February 10, 2017
(On being in Thousand Oaks and being part of the Rams)
“I think it’s special. I think Coach McVay is a talented guy, if you guys haven’t figured that out already. So, to have a chance to work with him, to have a chance to work with Wade Phillips, I pinch myself. I really do. To be back in Southern California with the Los Angeles Rams, it doesn’t get any better than that. I’m very excited.”
(On Coach McVay as head coach at age 31)
“We worked together for the last two years. He was the offensive coordinator, I was the defensive coordinator. So we got to be very close and worked hand-in-hand. It didn’t shock me at all. I knew as soon as he went on these interviews, he was going to get a head coaching job because I know what type of guy he is, how passionate he is, how smart he is. So no, it did not shock me one bit.”
(On why he chose to work with the Los Angeles Rams)
“Well, Sean, really. Bottom line. I had an opportunity to go to a few other places, but to be with Sean, to come back to Los Angeles. I think this is an exciting time to be part of Los Angeles Rams football. To go back to playing at the Coliseum for a couple years before we move into the stadium, it’s very, very exciting. I’m glad to be on board and I can’t wait to get started.”
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Rams Safeties Coach Ejiro Evero – February 10, 2017
(On if you have met any of the players yet)
“Yeah, we’ve met half of them.”
(On if the players have been around the facility)
“Yeah, some guys are here rehabbing or working out. We’ve met a couple of our guys.”
(On if most of his time is spent on evaluating the roster and figuring out what he wants to do)
“Yeah, exactly. We’re watching the tape on the guys, and learning who we like, and all of that. We like a lot of them. Also, getting to learn (Defensive Coordinator) Wade’s (Phillips) scheme. The great thing about Wade is that, OK, this is the scheme that we’re going to run, but he’s going to let us put our little flavor on it. We’re all getting into the same rhythm with that. So, that’s been good.”
(On what it’s like working under Defensive Coordinator Wade Phillips)
“A lot of teams in the NFL are similar. Wade has a history. People have what they’re going to specialize in. But, the best thing about him is that he’s got all this wealth and knowledge. He’s been in the NFL for so long. He’s like an encyclopedia of defensive football. But, at the same time though, he’s like, he wants us to coach, and he wants us to put our flavor on it as well. And so, that’s what is exciting to us.”
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Rams Defensive Line Coach Bill Johnson – – February 10, 2017
(On if the 4-3 defense or the 3-4 defense is more difficult)
“You’re going to get three wide receiver sets 60 to 65 percent of the time, the other percentage of the time, you’re going to get ’22 personnel’ – two tight ends, two backs. Everybody plays the same thing to that. We’re going to be playing a lot of the same things that will look close to what people have seen. The one thing, we’ve done this before with (defensive coordinator) Wade (Phillips), I’ve done this, he came to Atlanta, I was already in Atlanta, we were a four-man front, they had good football players, we had Brady Smith we had Pat Kerney – we had really good football players. There was angst there about 4-3 or 3-4. But, really and truly, to me, it’s techniques. They’re going to be playing the very same techniques. And I, sort of, had the same thing in Atlanta – this is a four-man front, how are we going to fir these players. What the exercise did for me and the experience of doing this, I learned that you can be more multiple and you can attack protections better. I learned a lot of football with Wade that first time. And I think the advantage is, we’ll be able to take our players and match them up in different positions that give us even better match-ups. The one thing about a 4-3 defense is I can almost tell you, getting off the bus, (No.) 99 is going to be here, (No.) 94 is going to be there, (No.) 97 is going to be here. And I think you’ll see a little bit more multiplicity.”
(On if he thought he would be with the Rams this year after playing them last year as a member of the New Orleans Saints)
“I don’t know about that, but I’m excited to be here. I obviously enjoyed my years in New Orleans. I had a chance to win a world championship, wont a lot of games. (Saints Head Coach) Sean Payton is a great guy. I’ll tell you, I’m excited – being in this league, it’s good to get a fresh start. After nine years in New Orleans and being able to come here with a young, up-and-coming head coach and Wade Phillips, I’m excited about it and looking forward to the opportunity to turn this thing around.”
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Rams Offensive Line Coach Aaron Kromer – – February 10, 2017
(On what he’s seen from the offensive line on tape from a technique and a scheme standpoint)
“I see youth. Anytime you’re in a situation with a line that has everybody under three years, it takes time to develop. I look forward to molding the group. (Assistant Offensive Line Coach) Andy (Dickerson) and I, and my son (Offensive Quality Control coach) Zak (Kromer) just working with this group, and working with (Head Coach) Sean’s (McVay) offense, and understanding how we fit in the offense, and what he wants us to get done. I think it’s an exciting group because they’re young. They still want to learn. Not that everybody doesn’t, but they want to know how do you want to do it, and they’re going to do it that way. When you get in those situations, I think it’s favorable for a coach.”
(On the development of LT Greg Robinson)
“There’s always high expectations for guys, and it’s hard for anybody in those situations. I think I can still do more work with him, as far as watching tape and that. But, I hate to judge a guy before I talk to him, work with him, decide, ‘Hey, you’re good at this, or you’d be better if you did this technique. Or you’d be better thinking this simple thought so you didn’t have confusion. Why are you thinking about all of these other things?’ I look forward to working with the whole group. Hopefully, I can help them become better. That’s my goal. I’m a teacher. I want them to pass the test, and my goal is to get them from whatever level they’re at now, to try to get an ‘A’ in the class.”
(On if there’s a philosophy he has, whether it be zone read, blocking scheme)
I think the most important thing is individual technique, and then from there, what fits our personnel. Sean has a great vision of what he wants this offense to look like, and how the plays will be run, and how fast we’ll go, and how we’ll function as an offense. Then we’ve just got to fit our players in, and adjust that vision to our guys. What do they do best? And when we find that out, I think we’ll emphasize one thing more than the next.”
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Rams Quarterbacks Coach Greg Olson – – February 10, 2017
(On what he’s seen from his evaluation of QB Jared Goff thus far and Goff’s potential in the NFL)
“Great. The ceiling is really high with this player in my mind. Unbelievable arm talent, he’s had that since high school. From being up in the Bay Area, I’ve kind of known about him. When he went to Cal, I had the chance to follow him there early on in his career at Cal. I’ve always felt like this guy’s got tremendous arm talent and that’s a start in my opinion. You look to evaluate this position, it’s what type of arm talent does that player have. Certainly, a very intelligent player when you look at his test scores and what he was able to do a student. I just think there are a lot of intangibles there as well. You’ve all heard about him growing up from high school, through college and in the NFL, tremendous work ethic. There’s a lot of things there that I think are good. He had a chance last year, didn’t get a chance to get a lot of the reps in training camp and I think that sometimes is not a great situation. To be thrown into playing after nine games into the season, I think without having that base work, which he will get this spring and this summer – I think that there certainly should be a huge jump from year one to year two.”
(On working with high draft picks with big expectations put upon them and what he’s learned from those experiences that can help him now working with Goff)
“Every player is different. In that whole evaluation phase there’s a difference in pro football and college football. A lot of times with college football is to identify the player and sign that player based on your evaluation. It doesn’t always happen that way in the NFL. With these young players, again, the quicker they can get in and get assimilated into an offensive scheme and have a chance to get with their coordinator, to get with their head coach, and really learn the offense – the better chance he’ll have for success. Certainly, it wasn’t an ideal situation, the fact that he’s going on his second coordinator and second head coach in his second year in the league. But his potential is very high and I know he’s excited right now in talking with him about the change. We’re just really excited about our staff. But, again every player is different.”
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Rams Running Backs Coach Skip Peete – – February 10, 2017
(On what it meant to have RB Todd Gurley call Head Coach Sean McVay on his behalf and his relationship with Gurley)
“I really appreciate him doing that. I felt we had a good working relationship. A lot of conversations and spent a lot of time together. He wasn’t involved in any special teams so, typically during special team meetings, you would meet with you position coach. We had the opportunity to cover a lot of different things. Getting prepared for the game plan and I’m a big component of asking them to be involved in the meeting. It isn’t just about me talking and (the players) not having any voice – I think the communication between the player and the coach is big.”
(On last year’s offense and whether Gurley’s running style didn’t fit within the offense last season)
“I think a lot of things contributed to that. Those times that I talked about during special teams meetings, he and I had those kind of conversations. It was – like I always tell him and anyone – is that in order to have a successful running game, it’s a combination of everyone. It’s not just, ‘well the line didn’t block good,’ it wasn’t like ‘the runner didn’t run good – it’s a combination of both. I think everybody has to be cohesive and be on the same page.”
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Rams Cornerbacks Coach Aubrey Pleasant – – February 10, 2017
(On Coach McVay as head coach at age 31)
“All age is how many times you’ve been around the sun. Your experiences, your respect, your discipline and how you are a leader of men is ultimately how you’re going to be valued in this league. We believe we have it and we believe we’re following the right person.”
(On being hired to the Los Angeles Rams)
“Sean and I met each other four years ago when I had just come to Washington and I was on offense. I interviewed twice for this opportunity. This wasn’t a, ‘Hey, come get this.’ This was a, ‘Hey, I believe in you. I know what you’re going to bring to the table. I’m trying to get some experience on the staff, mixed with a little bit of youth; show everybody what I think you have.’”
Wide Receivers Coach Eric Yarber – – February 10, 2017
(On the personnel group at wide receiver)
“Watching footage on some of these guys, you have a wide variety of receivers. You’ve got guys that can play the slot, that can be option runners, you’ve got guys that can take the top off, you’ve got guys with size. I’m excited about working with this group and taking them to the next level.”
(On the wide receiver position in football)
“Every great athlete or great receiver—they want the ball. That’s part of the business. They want the ball, they think that with the ball in their hand, they can make plays and I want guys like that.”
February 10, 2017 at 8:18 pm in reply to: McVay, Phillips, + new assistant coaches…vids & transcripts, 2/10 & 2/15 #65185
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams Head Coach Sean McVay – February 10, 2017
(Opening remarks)
“Alright, hopefully that worked out for you guys and got a chance to get to know a lot of our assistant coaches. A group that we’re really excited about. I think you can feel their energy, their enthusiasm, a lot of the same things we’re looking for and the kind of the environment and atmosphere that we want to be able to create and set that culture. It’s going to start with us and that coaching staff. Looking forward to that.”
(On why he thinks the coaching staff was able to come together so fast and coaches mentioning fundamentals and teaching)
“Yeah, that’s exactly what we’re looking for. I think it came together so quickly because, (I was) very fortunate to have the right people in place. One of the things that’s tricky about the NFL is, are guys going to be available with their contract situations and things like that. You look at a (defensive coordinator) Coach (Wade) Phillips, to get a guy of his caliber, where his contract was running up, we feel very fortunate about that. It kind of worked out where timing ended up being, really, in our favor. We were able to put together a great group of guys on offense and defense. Then, being able to come here and keep the continuity with (special teams coordinator) Coach (John) Fassel – he actually just hired an assistant today that we’ll release, we’re very excited about him. And that represents the final product of our coaching staff. It’s exactly what we’re looking for, those teachers like you mentioned.”
(On RB Todd Gurley talking to him about retaining running backs coach Skip Peete)
“It was one of those situations when you go into these interviews where you have your projected staff in place. Skip was a guy that I heard a lot of really good things about, I had never had the chance to work with him before, but he had worked with a couple of people that I’ve worked with that I hold their opinion in high regard. He was a guy I was interested to sit down with and wanted to really get a chance to talk some football, learn what he’s about. And that morning, before I was getting ready to go sit down with him, I got a call from a North Carolina area code, didn’t know what it was. I got a text saying, ‘This is Todd,’ which, I had spoken to after I got hired. In the meantime, (General Manager) Les (Snead) is beeping in, I’m thinking, ‘Oh no, I hope this isn’t the first bad call I’m getting as a head coach.’ It was one of those deals where I got a chance to talk to Todd and he kind of explained some of the reasons why he felt so strongly about Coach Peete. When you’ve got a key player like that, I think you want to be able to try to demonstrate that you’re going to listen to your players, their opinion matters. And somebody of his caliber and the type of guy that he is, very important to us. And that definitely played a factor in why we were able to retain Coach Peete. He also earned the opportunity because of what he has done as a great coach, as well.”
(On what Gurley said about why he felt so strongly about Skip Peete)
“He felt like, from a technique, fundamentals, understanding the position, allowing him to see the big picture, how does he fit with regards to protections. I know, last year, he was used a lot more in protections on some of those third-down situations where you’re responsible for blitz pickups and things of that nature. And I think that’s what allowed him to, kind of, expand his game and continue to try to be that every down back that I know he’s striving to be. It was just a lot of the things you’re looking for with your coaching staff and what they’re trying to represent. I feel like Todd saw a lot of those things and that was why he wanted to get a chance to continue to work with him.”
(On if getting each player better matters more than what defensive scheme they are playing)
“Absolutely. When you really talk about what makes a great coach, I think, ultimately, everybody has different levels of ability, and it’s our job to help them reach that highest potential. And that’s why Coach Phillips is a great coach, he’s got that perspective. I think you heard us talk about it already, where we want to fit our schemes to our player’s strengths. That’s why getting a chance to sit in there today with our defensive staff as they’re watching all the tape from last year – I’ve had a chance to do that on both offense and defense so far. That’s why you can’t wait for the offseason program to get going so you can evaluate these guys on the grass, get a chance to see how they learn, how they retain information in the meeting room. That’s going to be a big part of it. But certainly, tailoring your schemes to the players’ strengths, helping them reach that highest potential, that’s the number one priority. Then, figuring out those schemes is more game plan specific – how do we attack certain coverages on offense, how does the defense defend certain looks and personnel groupings that an offense might present. Those are things, but the first priority is let’s help develop our players with the fundamentals, the techniques that we’ll emphasize throughout the course of the offseason and continuing throughout the regular season. And that’s a big priority for us, absolutely.”
(On if he moves to the draft and free agency after he gets done with current player evaluations)
“It’s a great question. (I’m) sitting there with Les yesterday and those are some things that we really discussed at great length. The first priority is, let’s get a chance to really evaluate our own – who do we have in the building, are these players guys that we feel like we can win a division with, compete for a conference championship and then, ultimately, compete for a Lombardi (Trophy). That’s our first priority. And then, really, you want to have a big-picture perspective on free agency and the draft. You try to kind of go in sequential order with how those things occur. But it is important to understand, where are the free agents, how does that affect our needs or, can we address those needs in free agency or the draft. It’s kind of a combination, but the first priority is going to be to evaluate our own. And then you have to take into account some of the cap casualties, things that like, that will occur. It’s an ongoing process, but certainly right now, the number one priority is evaluating the players that we have in the building right now.”
(On some of the qualities that made him think QB Coach Greg Olson was the right man for the job)
“I got a chance to work with Coach Olson my first year in Tampa. He’s a great communicator. I really had a lot of respect for him, because when I finished playing at Miami (Ohio), he was one of the coaches who kind of took me under his wing, helped kind of guide me, and really always appreciated and watching him from afar how he communicated with his guys. He was always taking times during those periods that might not have been focused on offense, but if it’s special teams, defensive periods, he was always making sure those guys were working. He’s a guy that we’ve kept in touch throughout the course of our coaching careers. He was a guy, when he became available, wanted to get him to be a part of this staff. You look at with (Offensive Coordinator) Coach (Matt) LaFleur that we’re going to be able to have as our offensive coordinator. He’s a guy that we were able to develop a really close relationship with in Washington. Detail oriented, good communicator, been around some of the most productive offenses over the last couple of years. You look at what Atlanta was able to do. A lot of the things that we do philosophically will be very similar. Because, being able to work under (49ers Head Coach) Kyle (Shanahan) for a couple of years in Washington definitely shaped some of my core beliefs, and what we want to do offensively here. Being able to have a guy that’s been in that system, looking at the production they had was very enticing to try to get him to be a part of this. I think you really look at it, it’s very important for us to all be on the same page.”
“That’s why when you get Matt here Monday, we’ll all be on the same rhythm as far as what we’re communicating to (QB) Jared (Goff), what the expectations are. I certainly don’t know, because I’ve never experienced it, but you talk to people that have been in the role that I’m getting ready to take on, and you know you want to be involved in the offense, but there’s going to be times where you’re going to be pulled in different directions. That’s why it’s very important to have Matt and Greg in place where if you’re not able to be a part of the offensive meetings, or whatever is going on, you trust that their leadership will continue to have that same messaging, so that our quarterbacks know exactly what the expectations are. I don’t think you can have enough good coaches in the building. We’re going to create an environment where it’s about all of us working together. I mentioned this the other day, Coach Phillips said to his defensive staff, ‘You guys aren’t working for me, you’re working with me,’ and I love that. That’s what we’re trying to do. We’re all working together with each other, figuring out how to help those players, and especially Jared is going to be a big part of what we’re trying to do moving forward.”
(On why he thinks RB Todd Gurley had such a subpar season)
“I think each play’s its own entity, especially in the run game. When you really look at it, it takes all 11. It takes running against the right looks. It takes the tight end setting the edge. I think each play, you kind of look at and you say, ‘Ok, could Todd have maybe read it out better, or could a guy have maybe got a combination block up to the second level better. Each play has its own reason for why it might not have worked out. But what you do see in Todd, is a special player. He’s got great gifts as far as just a talented runner with natural instincts, ability when he gets to the second level to make people miss kind of seamlessly. We’re looking to get him to be that player consistently week in and week out. From what I’ve seen so far, really excited about the opportunity to work with him. We feel confident that he’ll get going and be special back for a long time in this league.”
(On if he has given much thought to Greg Robinson and where he fits in)
“Yeah, you know that’s something that we’re constantly evaluating right now. And Greg is a big part of that evaluation process. Obviously, when you look at some of the things he’s able to do, you see the athleticism. In space, when he’s pulling around and using some of those parameter schemes that they did offensively last year. He’s a guy that we’re excited to get around. That’s why you’re frustrated that you have to wait so long to get these guys in the building, see them on the grass, how you’re going to evaluate their ability to kind of retain some of the things we’ll ask them to do, what Coach Kromer will do, technique, fundamental-wise, which is imperative for that group up front. And Greg is a guy that we’re constantly evaluating and he’s a big part of what we’re going to try to do moving forward right now.
(On his thoughts on competing directly with 49ers Head Coach Kyle Shanahan)
“I told him, I said, ‘I can’t tell you how happy I am for you, but I can’t believe I’ve got to see you twice a year now.’ He’s a great coach. You look at what they were able to do offensively last year, I think it’ll be hard-pressed to find a team that led the league in scoring, most touchdowns and fewest turnovers it’s incredible. So, I got a chance to see them play up front in the NFC Championship game and I was so impressed with just their overall operation, with how efficient they were, how quick they got in and out of the huddle. Kyle is a guy who’s had a tremendous influence on some of the things I believe in offensively. He’s a great coach and wish him nothing but the best for 14 games, except for those two next year.”
(On the coaching landscape in the NFC West)
“I think when you look at what (Seahawks Head) Coach (Pete) Carroll and (Cardinals Head) Coach Arians have accomplished throughout the course of their careers, their résumés speak for itself. There’s great coaches around this league, but those are two guys in particular that I have a whole lot of respect for. Great defensive leader in Coach Carroll and then what he’s able to bring to Seattle – that culture that we talk about, you know, he’s the epitome of kind of being able to bring a culture, put it in place, and you see it show up on their tape. And then, Coach Arians, great offensive mind – turning those guys into consistent winners, year in and year out. Great respect for them – it’s a very competitive division and those are the two teams that have really done a nice job over the last couple of years and that’s what we’re striving to do and striving to become moving forward.”
(On if there have been any big surprises for him in his first month on the job)
“I don’t think it’s surprises, I think you’re just surprised by the reality of, when you sit down to do something at six in the morning and then it’s 8:30 at night and here I am ready to do that thing that I was set out to do at six in the morning. You get pulled in a bunch of different directions, but that’s why it’s important to have those great people around you that you know when you’re doing those other tasks that you can trust things are being done the right way. It’s definitely been a whirlwind, haven’t had a chance to slow down, but it’s been great, I’ve really enjoyed it so far. Continuing to get to know the people all around this building just reiterates why I’m so fortunate and feel blessed to be here.”
(On what needs to be addressed at the receiver position in the offseason)
“I think any time that you look at the receiver position and really guys that handle ball in general, you can’t have enough playmakers – guys that make great things happen with the ball in their hands. And when you look at the receiver position, you look at some of the things that Tavon Austin does with the ball, both in the run-game and when he’s able to catch it as a receiver. He’s a guy that you want to move all over the formation. Just getting a chance to watch his touch tape, when he’s targeted in the pass-game last year. Again, yesterday, you see a lot of encouraging things and you see where he can take that growth and that next to become a true, complete receiver. You can’t have enough playmakers. Certainly, that’s something that we’re always looking to upgrade. That receiver position is very important, a lot of yards and offensive production goes through that room. We want to try to find a way to get the best players on the field. Whether it be through the running backs, tight ends or receivers, throwing the football is going to be a big part of what we want to do and what’s going to allow us to be successful offensively.”
(On what percentage of his offense in Washington came from Kyle Shanahan)
“It’s hard to specifically say a percentage. But it is one of those situations where you look at getting a chance to work under Coach Gruden, the influence that he had on me and then working with Mike (Shanahan) and Kyle. It was certainly a product and a factor in shaping what we became in the last couple of years in Washington. That’s why you’re excited about what our Rams offense is going to become, because you have guys like (offensive coordinator) Matt LaFleur coming in, you’ve got (quarterbacks coach) Greg Olson, (offensive line coach) Aaron Kromer, guys that have a lot of success at different stops. That’s what’s going to combine the Rams offense for us moving forward. We’re all a product of our experiences. Certainly Kyle and Coach Shanahan’s offense has had a big influence on what I believe and how I think you want to attack a defense. But it’s going to be something that’s going to be an ongoing process, figuring out our players first and then how we fit that scheme to their skillsets.”
February 10, 2017 at 6:45 pm in reply to: McVay, Phillips, + new assistant coaches…vids & transcripts, 2/10 & 2/15 #65184
znModeratorWade Phillips on Sean McVay: I think he’s going to handle everything really well
NFL Nework’s Omar Ruiz catches up with Rams defensive coordinator Wade Phillips who shares his thoughts on working with Sean McVay and what he expects the defense to look like.
February 10, 2017 at 6:44 pm in reply to: McVay, Phillips, + new assistant coaches…vids & transcripts, 2/10 & 2/15 #65183
znModeratorNote: this one starts sooner than the previous one and contains some missing material as a result. But then it starts to reduplicate what’s already there in the first one.
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Sean McVay confident in Rams’ new coaching staff hires
Los Angeles Rams head coach Sean McVay discusses the team’s new coaching staff.
znModeratorI like Goff. Before the draft I saw the advantages both Goff and Wentz had and would have been fine with either one, though they are different animals.
I liked Prescott too, but, they cut things back for him in an offense that was just loaded at every spot, so he had huge advantages.
I think the other 2 would have struggled last year too.
But it gets down to what kind of qb you like. And certainly there are things that stood out with Goff, in spite of (a) being a rookie, in (b) those circumstances. He has the quick release and can just make high caliber throws.
But he has to stop being a rookie.
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