Billy_T wrote:

I like Stafford’s game. He has arm talent is in excess of Goff’s. But, game in, game out, his track record is meh. Yeah, you can blame a lot of that on his surroundings. But not all of it.

If I had to choose between either QB for right now, I’d take Stafford. But he’ll turn 33 next month, so I wouldn’t choose him over Goff to “build a team around.” Goff turns 27 in October. I’m taking him for the future.

But what I find truly appalling is how much the Rams gave up in this trade. To me, it really should have been a one to one swap, at most. In fact, the Lions should have given the Rams a draft pick. Instead, the Rams made a trade, in terms of value given away, for a perennial All-Pro, in the top five, league-wise, at least. That’s not Stafford.

Dumb, dumb, dumb trade. And the Rams basically mortgaged their future on this one.

Alot of whether this trade makes sense or not depends on how good you think Stafford is. I don’t watch him a lot, but he always struck me as having about the same talent as Goff, Ryan, etc. If that’s the case, the trade doesn’t make much sense.

But there are a lot of guys who think he is much better than that. Many think that with better coaching and personnel around him, he will be borderline elite to elite. I don’t know.

The other thing people who do like this trade are saying is that the reason why the price for Stafford was so steep, was to get Detroit to take on Goff’s contract. A contract McVay and Snead were only too happy to sign a year and a half ago.

This may be the defining moment of the McSnead era in LA. I just hope Stafford is everything they think he is, because if he isn’t, then this could be the beginning of their end.

Zooey wrote:

nittany ram wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

D’Marco Farr was on 101.1 in St. Louis this morning.

He’s pretty much convinced Snead and McVay are just trying to motivate Goff.

I’m wondering if they are trying to intimidate Goff and his agent to get him to redo his contract.

But that has never happened in the history of ever. No player ever gave back money because the performance didn’t match expectation. And if they just needed to redo the contract in order to sign someone else, this isn’t the way to go about that.

The only explanation that makes any sense is the motivational expectation, but man… this is a bad way to do it. This is the first major screw up we have seen from the front office in years.

I’m going by what has been said by McVay and Snead.

McVay wouldn’t commit to Goff being the starter next season. That could be motivational.

Snead wouldn’t commit to Goff being a Ram next season. That’s not motivational because Goff can’t do anything to demonstrate he’s going to cut down on turnovers and be a better QB before next season starts.

That to me is a threat. And Snead knows the only thing Goff can do over the off-season to alleviate that is to address one of the main issues behind this entire mess – his contract.

Agamemnon wrote:

I expect Staley to poach a couple coaches from this staff. I offer the Special Teams coach.

Yeah, he hasn’t been around long enough to know any coaches other than Rams coaches, so I expect him to try and poach a few…

Goff needs a clean pocket and he gets too few of those against better defenses, so I think an upgrade of the oline is in order.

They need to develop or obtain a deep threat at WR. Van Jefferson is supposed to be fast so maybe he can fill that niche?

The d-line has nice complimentary players, but, as we saw yesterday, they can’t hold up against a good o-line when Donald isn’t there to draw all the attention. I would like to see them add talent here, but given their cap situation, maybe this is something the Rams need to live with and just bank on Donald remaining healthy.

Last year there was significant roster turnover in players and coaches, and that will happen this year too. Hopefully the Rams do as good a job filling the holes as they did this season.

Merry Saturnalia from Vermont.

wv wrote:

I know no AFL team has a chance against an NFL powerhouse
like the Rams,
but that Namath kid is pretty good, i hear.

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He’s nuthin Coy Bacon can’t handle.

What worries me about this sort of game is suffering a catastrophic injury to a key player.

Not that it’s more likely to happen against the Jets than anyone else, but when winning the game isn’t the biggest worry, the next biggest worry takes center stage.

Zooey wrote:

It would be something to go beat New Orleans in New Orleans again, though, eh?

I think it would be cool if the Rams go to New Orleans for the title game, have a horrible PI call go against them, but they overcome it and win easily anyway.

On what you do to fix inconsistencies offensively)
“We’ve got another game next week. Just get after it starting tomorrow. I’ve had to bounce back from various things before this is just another one of those hurdles. I don’t wish to have too many more hurdles for the rest of the year, but this is another one I have to bounce back from.”

I think I see Goff’s problem. He’s trying to bounce off hurdles instead of jumping over them.

“Goff wasn’t much better for Los Angeles, but his playmakers made up for his relatively forgettable outing.”

What game was he watching? Goff also completed 39 passes and threw for nearly 400 yds and 3 TDs.

The Rams are now the second seed in the NFC.

Not bad considering the personnel overhaul over the offseason.

InvaderRam wrote:

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what is terrible is losing whit. i think this offense struggles even more. i think goff suffers. i will be rooting for noteboom though.

He ain’t Whit but I think Noteboom will be ok. It will be even more important to establish the running game now though. Mix things up offensively to keep defenses from teeing off. Tough test this week against the Bucs.

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Billy_T wrote:

…and Trump will be in jail, or in exile. Even if he skates from accountability for his crimes again, he’ll be 78 in 2024, with all kinds of the proverbial “co-morbidities.” I doubt he’ll even attempt another run, even if he had the health to do so.

I wonder if behind-the-scenes Trump will offer a “peaceful transition of power” in exchange for not being prosecuted.

I also wonder how many people in his administration will try to cash in on the most corrupt presidency in history by writing “tell-all” books – where they describe all the juicy details while pretending they weren’t complicit – ala Albert Speer.

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