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  • #128857
    Agamemnon
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    Call me crazy but I believe that Van Jefferson could end up as the best receiver on the Rams as early as next year. He’s got a very unique blend of speed, suddenness, play strength and footwork. His footwork is actually some of the best I’ve seen all season and he was a rookie. Come on in as we break down what Jefferson is, what he can be, why the Rams should have played him way more last year and why he’s ready to take off in year two.

    Agamemnon

    #128858
    zn
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    I worry about Jefferson’s toughness. Woods and Kupp can take the physical part of the game–I’ve seen signs that Jefferson has some “Isaac Bruce” to him, meaning the part of Bruce that would not take hits or get the best out of physical contact situations.

    #128863
    Herzog
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    I worry about Jefferson’s toughness. Woods and Kupp can take the physical part of the game–I’ve seen signs that Jefferson has some “Isaac Bruce” to him, meaning the part of Bruce that would not take hits or get the best out of physical contact situations.

    If he puts up Bruce type numbers…. I’d be ok with that.

    #128874
    Hram
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    Jefferson does not strike me as soft. Even if he is as “soft” as Bruce, that wouldn’t be bad.

    I think he’s better than the guy he is replacing in that way. Josh reynolds seemed to never fight for a ball. It irked me.

    I don’t think he will be the best Receiver on the team next year. As a sophomore, he still has a lot to learn.

    #128876
    Zooey
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    I worry about Jefferson’s toughness. Woods and Kupp can take the physical part of the game–I’ve seen signs that Jefferson has some “Isaac Bruce” to him, meaning the part of Bruce that would not take hits or get the best out of physical contact situations.

    I always suspected that you hate Isaac Bruce. The only mystery is why it took you so long to express it.

    It’s amazing how many Seahawks fans are on this board when it’s such a small board.

    #128878
    Hram
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    Zooey, well played. 🙂

    #128883
    zn
    Moderator

    I always suspected that you hate Isaac Bruce. The only mystery is why it took you so long to express it.

    It’s amazing how many Seahawks fans are on this board when it’s such a small board.

    Bruce was okay. I mean he was no Tyler Lockett or anything. But he was pretty okay.

    #128903
    Herzog
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    I worry about Jefferson’s toughness. Woods and Kupp can take the physical part of the game–I’ve seen signs that Jefferson has some “Isaac Bruce” to him, meaning the part of Bruce that would not take hits or get the best out of physical contact situations.

    I always suspected that you hate Isaac Bruce. The only mystery is why it took you so long to express it.

    It’s amazing how many Seahawks fans are on this board when it’s such a small board.

    🤣🤣

    #128906
    zn
    Moderator

    I worry about Jefferson’s toughness. Woods and Kupp can take the physical part of the game–I’ve seen signs that Jefferson has some “Isaac Bruce” to him, meaning the part of Bruce that would not take hits or get the best out of physical contact situations.

    I always suspected that you hate Isaac Bruce. The only mystery is why it took you so long to express it.

    It’s amazing how many Seahawks fans are on this board when it’s such a small board.

    smileys

    Yeah Zooey somehow assumed what I said was a put-down of Bruce. Even in jest that misses the point.

    It was possible to overlook Bruce’s lack of physicality because he excelled in so many areas and put up yards. Back when there were controversies about Bruce sliding after receptions, I defended him.

    But what if Jefferson does not have the great productivity. I am not even asking him to be Bruce, cause few are at that level, but what if he’s not even reasonably productive. If Jefferson has the shy-about-contact thing (which IMO he does) AND he does not overbalance it by being highly productive, then you have a liability without much of a strength.

    #128908
    nittany ram
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    I worry about Jefferson’s toughness. Woods and Kupp can take the physical part of the game–I’ve seen signs that Jefferson has some “Isaac Bruce” to him, meaning the part of Bruce that would not take hits or get the best out of physical contact situations.

    I always suspected that you hate Isaac Bruce. The only mystery is why it took you so long to express it.

    It’s amazing how many Seahawks fans are on this board when it’s such a small board.

    smileys

    Yeah Zooey made the mistake of assuming what I said was a put-down of Bruce. Even in jest that misses the point.

    It was possible to overlook Bruce’s lack of physicality because he excelled in so many areas and put up yards. Back when there were controversies about Bruce sliding after receptions, I defended him.

    But what if Jefferson does not have the great productivity. I am not even asking him to be Bruce, cause few are at that level, but what if he’s not even reasonably productive. If Jefferson has the shy-about-contact thing (which IMO he does) AND he does not overbalance it by being highly productive, then you have a liability without much of a strength.

    So apparently zn’s hatred of Van Jefferson is beginning to rival his legendary hatred of Isaac Bruce.

    Yep. Always figured him for a Seahawks fan. After all, ya can’t spell Zorn without zn.

    #128909
    zn
    Moderator

    So apparently zn’s hatred of Van Jefferson is beginning to rival his legendary hatred of Isaac Bruce.

    Yep. Always figured him for a Seahawks fan. After all, ya can’t spell Zorn without zn.

    #128920
    Herzog
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    I thought those guys were told to slide and avoid contact to avoid injury. I remember Holt doing it too. In my opinion that isn’t the same thing as not fighting for the ball.

    I wonder though…. if this is why Kupp is always injured come playoff time.

    #128921
    zn
    Moderator

    I thought those guys were told to slide and avoid contact to avoid injury. I remember Holt doing it too. In my opinion that isn’t the same thing as not fighting for the ball.

    I wonder though…. if this is why Kupp is always injured come playoff time.

    I wasn’t referring to fighting for the ball. Talking about how he plays in traffic when both the ball and the defender are on their way. If he’s limited that way then they will limit how they can use him.

    #128944
    zn
    Moderator

    L.A. Rams All-Under-25 team: Van Jefferson
    University of Florida product should get more touches in 2021

    ERIC D. WILLIAMS

    https://www.si.com/nfl/rams/news/la-rams-25-and-under-van-jefferson%5B

    Player: WR Van Jefferson
    Age: 24

    The skinny: Selected in the second round of the 2020 draft by the Rams out of Florida, Jefferson generated some buzz with his play during training camp and in scrimmages at SoFi Stadium. However, Jefferson never really got an opportunity to shine during the regular season. Jefferson played all 16 games, finishing with 19 receptions for 220 receiving yards and a score and averaging 11.6 yards per reception on 31 targets. He saw action in 250 plays on offense and another 118 on special teams. Jefferson also totaled six catches for 46 yards and a score in the NFC Divisional round playoff loss against the Green Bay Packers.

    Reason for optimism: Jefferson had a handful of entertaining, one-on-one battles with Jalen Ramsey during training camp, winning more than his share. Ramsey, one of the best corners in the league, had this to say about Jefferson’s potential: “He’s not just going to be good, I think he’s going to be a great player in the NFL.” That’s high praise coming from one of the best in the business. Jefferson, the son of current Arizona Cardinals receivers coach Shawn Jefferson, should get more of a chance to show what he can do with Josh Reynolds leaving to join the Tennessee Titans in free agency. At 6-1 and 200 pounds, Jefferson is a polished route runner who reads defenses well, but also has the speed to develop into a vertical threat. Although he didn’t run the 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine due to a foot injury, Zebra technology had Jefferson as the fastest player at the Senior Bowl last year with a max speed of 21.05 mph. Receivers typically make a significant leap in development from their rookie year to the second NFL season, so Jefferson should be even more comfortable in Sean McVay’s offense for the upcoming season.

    Reason for concern: Potential needs to turn into production at some point, and the Rams are certainly betting on that to happen with Jefferson entering his second season. Jefferson did have two drops according to Pro Football Focus, so that’s something to watch for next season. Also, you would like to see more than 11.6 yards per reception from someone like Jefferson, who could serve as a deep threat. That number should improve with a good deep ball thrower like Matthew Stafford taking over at quarterback for the Rams.

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