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  • in reply to: What happened on the Goff INT ? #74543
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    sorry. going to add one more thing. i think for most qbs their first three seasons they’re still trying to figure things out. then by their fourth year something clicks. that’s just by looking at stats.

    and i’m just talking years of experience. not necessarily games started. now some get it a year earlier or a year later but it’s usually around 3-5 years.

    in reply to: What happened on the Goff INT ? #74542
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    let me just add to that.

    i think i’ll be able to say for sure if he belongs or not by the bye week.

    as far as how good he can be? assuming he belongs i don’t think we’ll know until his fourth year. so that’ll be 2019.

    in reply to: What happened on the Goff INT ? #74539
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    Goff is young and will have “learning experiences” but he has already shown me he’s an NFL qb. The only questions are HOW good will he be, and how long before he becomes however good he will be.

    well let’s just say there are no penalties on that second to last drive. which were no fault of goff. and the rams defense is just enough to stop washington on their last td drive.

    hey all of a sudden we’re talking about how goff and gurley brought the rams back from a deficit and beat washington.

    let’s see how he does thursday and if he learned anything. i’m waiting until the bye week and see where he’s at then.

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    in reply to: What happened on the Goff INT ? #74535
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    overall i’d have to say though that goff did alright. even if he was missing receivers, through the first three quarters he had a 70 percent completion rate at over 10 ypa. his qb rating was at approximately 130.

    and the drive before the last they were in position to score another td and then the penalties.

    we’ll see.

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    in reply to: What happened on the Goff INT ? #74529
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    it concerns me too. i’m just hoping that at some point the game slows down for him. it’s only been 9 games. if at the end of the season we’re still reading things like this i’ll be more than concerned.

    in reply to: people around are asking, what is up with Gurley #74488
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    3 fumbles. too many fumbles.

    but otherwise a decent season.

    128 yards rushing 3.7 ypc.
    104 yards receiving.

    over a full season that’d be 1024 yards rushing and 832 yards receiving.

    gotta get that ypc up though. gotta keep pushing.

    he does have 3 total touchdowns. so that’s good.

    in reply to: The good news… #74478
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    well the cardinals without david johnson will be hurting a lot. so yeah. rams need to make a move now before he gets back. i agree. i think seattle is the best of the nfc west. niners. should beat them this week. if they don’t, it’ll be very disappointing. even with a leaky run defense. those niners have managed 12 points in their first two games… 12 freaking points. and 270 passing yards… for 2 games…

    gurley looked promising today. he needs to take care of the ball though. 3 fumbles already this season. he can’t keep coughing it up. as poorly as he ran last week, he’s still good for 7th in rushing. so far. he’s gotta keep getting better.

    the only thing that worries me is the rams are inexperienced. goff. only 9 games starting experience. mcvay first time head coach. 31 years old. there’s going to be a lot of inconsistency. that could hurt as the season goes on. palmer and wilson are veterans. they’ve been in their respective systems for years. so i expect a lot more consistency from them. i don’t know what to expect from a goff/mcvay led team yet. it’s only been 2 games.

    they should be better than the niners. it just depends on how much losing david johnson hurts the cardinals. i think seahawks are not reachable. hopefully, next year.

    in reply to: Washington game reactions #74474
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    gurley had a heck of a game. should have had more yards. maybe even another td if not for woods committing a boneheaded error. it was encouraging.

    goff had a good game up until staring down kupp. the linebacker read it the whole way. it had no chance. but you kind of figured goff would have these types of errors. this is only the ninth game of his career. i really do consider this a rookie season of sorts. he hasn’t played 16 games yet. he switched schemes. the team had just moved last season. lots of moving parts and he’s raw. he just needs to learn from this and move on. hopefully, he will.

    the receivers were completely silenced in the second half. watkins, kupp, woods, austin…

    run defense was atrocious. and just when we thought they might have the run game contained, they had a brain fart again on that last touchdown drive. i hope it’s fixable.

    donald looked disruptive. he can only get better as he knocks the rust off.

    in reply to: Rams with only 5 one o'clock games this year #74446
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    I gotta get used to these late games.

    Even the London game is a 1:00 EST scheduled game. I hope that helps the players. I hate that they have to play the London game. I believe they are the 2nd most traveled team(in miles) this year–next to the Raiders. Last year they were first. I read that the London miles are more miles than the Steelers will travel with all their games combined. It doesn’t help. I know Kroenke loves London and has investments there but how about giving the team a break?

    didn’t i read that the rams were going to play somewhere in china at some point?

    i think that might be closer for the rams than london… so there’s that.

    i didn’t realize they were the most traveled team last year. that combined with also traveling from st. louis to los angeles. wow. that’s a lot of miles.

    in reply to: Hekker's sensational new technique #74445
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    Okay, well, I admit I’m not a professional football player.

    But I have never understood how punters can be so damn inaccurate, and that when someone like Hekker comes around, he’s a bloody marvel.

    Punting.

    That’s your job. Your DAY job. It’s the thing you do all day, every day. Punt. How hard can it be to punt with accuracy when that’s what you practice all day?

    i’m telling ya. he’s gonna revolutionize the position. no one will think of punting the same way after hekker is done with his career.

    in reply to: people around are asking, what is up with Gurley #74443
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    But 2016 happened.

    yeah. normally you wouldn’t worry. bell and johnson, maybe the 2 best backs in the game, had atrocious game ones. but they didn’t have the kind of season gurley did last year.

    as herzog mentioned before, bettis is an example of a guy who showed promise as a rookie but then struggled early on in his career. and then came out gangbusters his fourth year on his way to hall of fame career. interestingly… the two years he struggled also came as his team was making a transition to a new city…

    his first three years (41 games started). 3.9 ypc. 3091 yards. 13 tds.

    the next three years (42 games started). 4.2 ypc. 4281 yards. 21 tds.

    ok. a little better.

    todd gurley through 2 years and 1 game (29 games started). 3.9 ypc. 2031 yards. 17 tds.

    he still has most of his third season left to play… i guess we’ll see.

    interestingly. another former ram… marshall faulk.

    his first three years (45 games started) he had 3.7 ypc. 2947 yards. 29 tds. he struggled through foot injuries though which obviously had to affect his production.

    his next three years (47 game started). 4.5 ypc. 3754 yards. 20 tds.

    i should also say those second three years doesn’t include a couple of the best years of his career.

    seventh and eight years (28 games started). 5.3 ypc. 2741 yards. 30 tds.

    ummm… so i guess there’s a small chance he can still turn this around.

    a big game from him today and a win would make a big announcement to the rest of the league.

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    in reply to: what will happen in the washington game #74405
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    I hate Washington.

    42-16.

    Let the GSOT comparisons begin.

    not saying this offense is going to reach the heights that offense did.

    but i like the way they assembled this current offense.

    they signed a bright offensive mind to build a new offense.

    they signed a couple veteran offensive lineman.

    they traded for a very promising young receiver with some injury concerns.

    they signed a solid veteran wide receiver.

    they drafted an athletic tight end and a wide receiver who is advanced beyond his years.

    i just like how they assembled this offense on four different levels. by scheme, by free agency, by trade, and by the draft.

    much like how that gsot offense was assembled. they signed an olineman (timmerman) and a qb (green) that year. they drafted holt. they traded for faulk. they hired martz. and added that to a team that already had some promising young players on offense. they used every avenue possible. they had a coaching change, they added personnel by free agency, draft, and trade.

    the results might not be the same, but i like how aggressive they were this offseason.

    in reply to: Trumaine Johnson wins NFC defensive player of the week #74404
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    i hope they find a way to re-sign this guy. he’s the leader of a group that i think a lot of us underestimated.

    i don’t know how possible it is with the cap and all that stuff. but if they can find a way to make it work, i’d be happy.

    in reply to: what will happen in the washington game #74403
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    i will not be satisfied with anything but a blowout.

    in reply to: people around are asking, what is up with Gurley #74402
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    I don’t know about that. Jerome Bettis sucked behind a bad Rams line. He had a hall of fame career behind Pittsburghs’

    i have looked at bettis’ career stats. and while he did have that one bad season, it was during a time where defenses were geared more towards stopping the run whereas defenses are now geared towards stopping the pass.

    but i’m also willing to give gurley the benefit of the doubt at this point.

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    To put it another way: Only one team averaged under 300 yards per game on offense a season ago. So roughly half the NFL in Week 1 resembled the 2016 Rams offense.

    the fisher rams offense was ahead of its time.

    in reply to: people around are asking, what is up with Gurley #74387
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    i don’t know what’s obvious. what isn’t. i don’t know enough about football to say what the problems is.

    i do know that he hasn’t had a productive game in over a year.

    and my opinion is that the good rbs are able to produce despite their circumstances. meaning a poor line. poor passing game. whatever. steven jackson did it on piss poor offenses his whole career. i expected gurley to be at least as good as jackson.

    but like i said. i’m giving him 5 more games.

    in reply to: people around are asking, what is up with Gurley #74327
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    later he did bounce it outside. i think he must have been watching clips on the sideline. but then the line or a tight end would get called for holding.

    i’m giving him five more games.

    in reply to: people around are asking, what is up with Gurley #74326
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    that’s what i was alluding to before. gurley missed holes. if he had just kept his head up. he could have bounced it outside.

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    Speed_Kills wrote:

    I hear two people who clearly aren’t invested in the Rams… that are still learning a lot about this team

    They expect the Rams to be bad. Its clear in how the report on them. To me it sounds like they don’t know a ton about the Rams. I listened to the whole thing and afterwards I said hmmm that was a bad listen. They even made comments about Gurley and talked about how some don’t see what the big deal is with him because he hasn’t flashed since the Rams moved to LA. I get that take but I think its shallow. Why not talk about what McV plans are to get him going? Go get that story. They just aren’t invested yet

    By the way I’m not talking about being a homer although some of that comes from being invested in your hometown team… the Rams don’t have that yet. I just think there was way too much personal banter (If I have to hear about Gary’s wife one more time) and not enough hard stuff and inside stuff regarding the Rams

    Just my take

    well apparently gary didn’t even know donald was back at the rams facility until lindsey informed him. and she heard it from her boyfriend who saw it on the ticker watching college football. i don’t think they have any inside info to share to be honest.

    i like them though. i think lindsey’s actually pretty funny. they’re coming from the perspective of an la fan who wasn’t around when the rams were here 23 years ago. so i understand why they would make that comment about gurley.

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    in reply to: what will happen in the washington game #74305
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    well quinn looked a little like the old quinn. the secondary has been lights out since maybe the minicamps. they’re coming off a dominant performance the previous week, and they’re getting arguably the best defensive player in the game back. i don’t think the defense will be a problem.

    on offense, mcvay will be motivated. i’m sure he’s got some tricks up his sleeve. some wrinkles to keep his old team off balance. i think there’s two questions that need answering. first, who is the real gurley? if he can be the gurley i hope he can be that’s one question answered. the second question is how much progress has goff really made? i think he’s going to have less time to throw. the windows will be just a little bit tighter. can he still make good decisions under those circumstances?

    if just one of those two can provide the answer we desire the rams have a chance. if both can step up, oh my. it’ll be something to behold. if neither can, well. everything will come crashing back to earth.

    i’m nervous.

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    in reply to: McVay, Goff, Donald…9/13…transcripts #74292
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    i watched the interview with aaron. he seemed… a little edgy. i don’t know if that’s good or bad.

    i’m thinking it’s bad. for washington.

    i’m just glad he’s back. no other defensive player in the league i’d take before him.

    in reply to: On 2 former Rams qbs (Bradford, Keenum) #74281
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    i think bradford’s good. i think keeping him at the time was the better choice. but at this point i think i take goff instead.

    i still want to see how he does this season, but as of now. yeah i like goff. that doesn’t mean i didn’t like bradford at the time. i just get this feeling that goff has more in his toolset. that’s really just a feeling though. not based on anything rational. probably just the homer in me talking.

    in reply to: Colts game reactions thread 9/10 #74265
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    one thing. quinn looked slimmer and i noticed he’s listed at 250 pounds now.

    if true i think it could do wonders for his health as far as his back is concerned.

    in reply to: Kupp Check #74264
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    i think he could get 60-70 catches this season.

    and i think going forward he could easily get 100 catches a season in the coming years.

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    Goff also pushed the ball down the field, and was four for five on deep (20-plus air yards) attempts.

    and once watkins gets going?

    wonder if norman covers watkins. that’ll be something exciting.

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    can’t wait until this sunday. washington should be a much better test than indy.

    i expect some regression. just hope it’s not too much of one.

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    i read somewhere that contracts have been offered to ogletree and joyner, but they haven’t been signed.

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    i don’t know how much this has to do with a debate of who is a better passer. i think it plays a part.

    but i was looking at yards per attempt. goff’s ypa yesterday was 10.55.

    do you know how many times bradford has thrown for double digit ypa?

    and there’s a lot of things that probably go into that. like the system you play in and stuff. talent level of your receivers. but i found this interesting.

    bradford has 2 games with double digit ypa. TWO. i looked it up. looked at every single gamelog of his. and that includes THIS game that he just played.

    and goff did it in just his eighth game.

    i think bradford might have him beat in arm strength. just pure arm strength. and so he can throw it on a rope. but goff’s instincts as a passer. like zn said. throwing with enough loft to get it over defenders. but with enough velocity to get there in a hurry. and the touch to throw a catchable ball. he’s thrown some beauties already. not just that td pass. but yeah. even last year. that pass to tavon. he’s thrown one to everett. a couple to woods.

    even that late pass to kupp. where he just threw it up there. but i swear. i think he purposely threw it behind the defender so kupp could reach back and snag it behind the defender. i think it’s those types of instincts combined with ability that bradford lacked.

    now i don’t know how good goff can become. there’s more to being a qb than just throwing the football. we still don’t know how goff will do when he’s under duress. when he’s playing from behind or in a close game. we don’t know about his leadership abilities. or his ability to read defenses. go through progressions and such.

    i would put it like this i guess. jeff george. they said he threw some of the prettiest balls you could ever imagine. it was just everything else he sucked at.

    goff throws a pretty ball. we just don’t know how good he is at the other things.

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    he is throwing lasers today. but yeah. i agree with herzog. i remember early in bradford’s career. he had a hard timing putting touch on his throws. sometimes he wouldn’t put the right loft on it. i remember in particular he had a hard time throwing a fade.

    i don’t think goff has those problems. he can throw a fade. he can throw with loft. he can throw on a rope. he can throw at a moving target. all with good accuracy. i’m not sure bradford can do all that. maybe now. but not when he was younger. goff already has that in his toolset.

    i think for him it’s not the mechanics of throwing a football. it’s really just learning how to read defenses. going through progressions. learning a pro style offense. but just throwing a football. i trust mcvay when he says how good he is as a pure thrower.

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