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October 17, 2014 at 5:48 pm #9813HighPlainsDrifterParticipant
Did not see this coming. Fox Sports has reported that the Jets have acquired Harvin for a conditional pick. Unbelievable.
October 17, 2014 at 5:57 pm #9814sdramParticipantI thought this was so out there that I went to sportsline and sure enough – harvin traded to Jets. That’s just cray-cray. Gotta wonder what’s going on with a talented guy like Percy that he’s moved twice in a short amount of time? There’s something not being said or reported here.
October 17, 2014 at 5:58 pm #9815wvParticipantThis is from January, fwiw:
http://www.businessinsider.com/percy-harvin-trade-seahawks-2014-1
“Harvin trade backfired”w
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October 17, 2014 at 6:04 pm #9818sdramParticipantHe had a tumultuous history with Minnesota as well when things weren’t going his way.
Report: Percy Harvin threatened to walk out on Vikings last offseason
Posted by Curtis Crabtree on March 8, 2013, 12:50 AM EDT
Minnesota Vikings v Seattle Seahawks Getty ImagesThe ongoing saga between Percy Harvin and the Minnesota Vikings appears to have another example of the mounting issues in the increasing troubled marriage.
According to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Harvin threatened to walk out on the Vikings prior to last season. The extension given to New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, Harvin’s college teammate at the University of Florida, reportedly didn’t sit well with Harvin. Both were just two years out of college and Hernandez was the one getting the new contract with the Patriots.
It was more than likely an empty threat from Harvin as he didn’t have any leverage to do so at the time. Hernandez signed his new contract with the Patriots during training camp in August. Harvin was already in the middle of training camp with the Vikings at that point. Had Harvin left the team then, the Vikings would have been able to issue a letter to Harvin giving him five days to return to the team. If he remained away from the team, the Vikings could have shut him down for the season. Doing so would have kept Harvin from earning an accrued season and kept him from reaching free agency for an additional season.
Once a player reports to camp, the player loses any leverage they have. It’s why players holdout and stay away during a contract dispute.
However, if accurate, it would further illustrate the rift between Harvin and the Vikings. Harvin also reportedly had a heated exchange with head coach Leslie Frazier this season. If the Vikings indeed attempt to sign Pittsburgh wide receiver Mike Wallace to a big money deal, it likely won’t sit very well with Harvin.
“[The Vikings are] in a tough spot,” a source told Cole. “If you don’t take some aggressive action, this could get really bad.”
Whether Harvin gets traded or remains in Minnesota, there is the potential for the situation to get even more volatile than it already has been.
October 17, 2014 at 6:09 pm #9820znhaterBlockedHe’s a cancer. That’s why he is never happy.
October 24, 2014 at 10:35 am #10346znModerator
Percy Harvin trade: Multiple reports of discord behind the scenes for SeahawksBy Danny Kelly
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2014/10/18/6997821/percy-harvin-trade-seahawks-russell-wilson-nfl
As more details trickle in about the Seahawks’ stunning decision to trade Percy Harvin to the Jets, a picture of persistent drama behind the scenes is starting to form. The multiple reports of Harvin’s discontent with his role on the team and in the scheme all point to the idea that the Seahawks simply grew tired of having to deal with the chemistry issues he was creating.
The well-connected Lance Zierlein reported through a series of tweets and an appearance on Dave Softy Mahler’s show on KJR Friday afternoon that Harvin’s well-documented off-field issues continued after he arrived in Seattle. Zierlein noted that Percy Harvin punched Golden Tate at around the Super Bowl time last year (with Tate showing what looks to be a black eye in this photo), and that he nearly got into a fight with Russell Wilson this season (this was, reportedly, a big impetus to ultimately pull the trigger on the trade). Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times had a source that corroborated the report of the Tate fight, and Condotta also added:
“A source also said Harvin had an altercation with Seattle receiver Doug Baldwin in the week leading up to the final exhibition game this August at Oakland that resulted in Baldwin getting a cut on his chin and each player being excused from practices that week. Harvin, who did not practice for two days before that game, did not make the trip to Oakland for what the team said at the time was “a personal matter.”There was a good amount of angst at the time, with fans and media members alike wondering aloud what the details around with Harvin’s “personal matter” really were.
Warren Moon, who is close to a good number of players and coaches on the Seahawks and who mentors Russell Wilson, said this today.
“One thing Pete Carroll wants is great chemistry on the field as well as off the field. And they had a tough time trying to figure out how to fit Percy Harvin and his skill set into what they already do as a philosophy offensively with Marshawn Lynch running the football and their play-action game. And then there was a little bit of a chemistry problem within the locker room at times with Percy, because he’s a different type of guy. So I think the combination of the two made it to where he was expendable. . . . One thing . . . Pete is really, really big on is chemistry and everybody feeling comfortable with one another. And I think that’s what this team has been so successful with the last three years. They’ve really had a great camaraderie, and they didn’t want to do anything to disrupt that.”
Mike Florio of PFT added another interesting angle to all this, noting that the Seahawks were looking to avoid allowing Harvin create a rift in the locker room related to Russell Wilson’s leadership style.
“As one source explained it to PFT on Friday evening, the Seahawks possibly feared that Harvin had sufficient influence over enough of the locker room to launch a mutiny against quarterback Russell Wilson, who despite not yet getting a franchise-quarterback contract possibly has become the target of some resentment among players who don’t share his complete devotion to the game, and who regard the third-year quarterback as a player-coach.”
This fear has roots with Harvin’s history, as it was reported the final straw in the Vikings’ decision to trade him was that he was badmouthing then-starting quarterback Christian Ponder at the time.
Perhaps the biggest issue, or at least the ultimate final straw, is something that Bob Condotta and John Boyle both reported Friday night: that Percy Harvin refused to go back into the game late against Dallas, when Seattle was trying to drive downfield to re-take the lead. Harvin missed 11 of the Seahawks final 17 snaps and this strange usage had confused pretty much everyone watching; it was something that Pete Carroll tiptoed around with vague comments about game flow and ‘readiness’. I would have to think for Pete Carroll, Harvin’s refusal to go into the game as a form of protest for touches or usage may have been the most egregious affront to the whole philosophy and culture of the Always Compete program he’s created in Seattle.
The Seahawks have not yet issued a statement about the trade, but it’s expected Saturday afternoon once the paperwork goes through with New York. Harvin is still subject to a physical.
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