One of the best commentaries on the Rams last year

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July 17, 2017 at 10:42 pm #71062

zn
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It’s the leader/showrunner for All or Nothing, in an interview with SI. I posted it here: http://theramshuddle.com/topic/amazons-all-or-nothing-with-rams/#post-70947

Here are some highlights:

We knew it was going to be tough going into it, they moved the whole franchise. So we knew we probably weren’t going to be in the NFC Championship like the Cardinals the year before, but we still thought it was valuable.

This is what happens when a season goes bad. When you watch the show, you’ll see it’s not because they aren’t working hard and it’s not because they aren’t trying their best, and it’s not because they aren’t talented players and brilliant coaches. It’s a razor’s edge, the NFL, and a lot of those games early in the season could have gone either way, and are decided on the last drive of the game. That team could have been 5-2 or 6-1 very easily, and to see it not go their way, and then that snowball starts to roll downhill on them and get away from them.

Those guys love him. I’ve been around a lot of teams in my 13 years with NFL Films and I’ve really never seen anything like it. I would even see star players from other teams come up to him pregame and tell him that they would love to play for him some day. It did not surprise me, the emotion that those guys had that day.

Everyone had this feeling that Fisher was safe, himself included. A lot of the players thought this was going to be a free year because they moved and they had a lot of other stuff to go through, so everyone was pretty shocked and I think that emotion was really real that day.

July 18, 2017 at 6:22 pm #71070

InvaderRam
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i don’t doubt that players loved to play for fisher. i don’t doubt that they played hard for him.

i think the mistake was hiring boras and in general a bunch of inexperienced coaches combined with a young roster of offensive players. maybe it wouldn’t have made a difference. maybe with the move and with a journeyman qb and one of the greenest rookie qbs possible it would have made little difference but i don’t think it helped. it was short sighted of fisher.

and maybe options were limited. but my gut says boras was not the guy. and i write this knowing i write it with the benefit of hindsight. cuz i was hopeful at the time of the hiring that it was the right one.

July 18, 2017 at 6:58 pm #71071

zn
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InvaderRam wrote:

maybe with the move and with a journeyman qb and one of the greenest rookie qbs possible it would have made little difference but i don’t think it helped.

I agree with that, and like the way you put it.

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July 19, 2017 at 5:32 pm #71083

wv
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“…It’s a razor’s edge, the NFL, and a lot of those games early in the season could have gone either way, and are decided on the last drive of the game. That team could have been 5-2 or 6-1 very easily, and to see it not go their way, and then that snowball starts to roll downhill on them and get away from them.”

Well, yes, and no. Its a razor’s edge between going 4-12 and 9-7. That is indeed a razor’s edge.

But its not a razor’s edge between 4-12 and where the Patriots are.

So, yeah, they could have been a wildcard team. But you can say that about almost every team in the NFL. They can almost all get to that “just over .500 plataeu”

But of course we want more than that.

We want to conquer all seven kingdoms.

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July 19, 2017 at 5:35 pm #71084

wv
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InvaderRam wrote:

i don’t doubt that players loved to play for fisher. i don’t doubt that they played hard for him.

i think the mistake was hiring boras and in general a bunch of inexperienced coaches combined with a young roster of offensive players. maybe it wouldn’t have made a difference. maybe with the move and with a journeyman qb and one of the greenest rookie qbs possible it would have made little difference but i don’t think it helped. it was short sighted of fisher.

and maybe options were limited. but my gut says boras was not the guy. and i write this knowing i write it with the benefit of hindsight. cuz i was hopeful at the time of the hiring that it was the right one.

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That all makes perfect sense of course.

Somethin about Fisher just started to bug me. Not sure what. Maybe it was five straight F’ing losing seasons.

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July 19, 2017 at 6:44 pm #71087

zn
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wv wrote:

Well, yes, and no. Its a razor’s edge between going 4-12 and 9-7. That is indeed a razor’s edge.

But its not a razor’s edge between 4-12 and where the Patriots are.

The recent Rams are their history though. Why were they on the razor’s edge between 4-12 and 9-7? Rookie qb, young OL. Why a rookie qb and a young OL? Begin with the fact that they had veteran and pretty effective OL in 2013, along with a starting caliber qb. And both things got blowed up. In fact it got blowed up real good. I venture to say this is the only team we’ve ever heard of that lost 2 key players to knee injuries (LOT, qb) and then the year after lost them both AGAIN to injuries to the same knees.

I don’t know how much better Fisher would have done without those circumstances. But EVERYBODY does better when they’re not starting BOTH #2 caliber qbs AND either beat-up or inexperienced lines (and sometimes both inexperienced and beat up).

In fact if the same things happen to McVay it will be more or less the same story.

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July 20, 2017 at 12:16 am #71092

Herzog
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Well, yes, and no. Its a razor’s edge between going 4-12 and 9-7. That is indeed a razor’s edge.

But its not a razor’s edge between 4-12 and where the Patriots are.

So, yeah, they could have been a wildcard team. But you can say that about almost every team in the NFL. They can almost all get to that “just over .500 plataeu”

But of course we want more than that.

We want to conquer all seven kingdoms.

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v

Amen brother…..Amen
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