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May 20, 2023 at 2:24 am #144202JackPMillerParticipant
I expect this will be a trend, when we play this season
May 20, 2023 at 4:14 am #144203znModeratorICYMI this weekend: Betting lines are out for every Rams game this season and they're only favored in 5 of them – 2 of which are against the Cardinals https://t.co/PuwXulPWSZ
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) May 15, 2023
May 20, 2023 at 4:15 am #144206znModeratorOddsmakers have set the Rams’ win total between 6.5 and 7.5, and even as low as those numbers are, most experts are predicting them to finish with seven or fewer victories in 2023. CBS Sports’ Will Brinson is not among that contingent of doubters, however.
Brinson predicted the final record for every team in the NFL and he’s surprisingly confident in the Rams despite their roster holes and lack of top-end talent. Brinson predicts the Rams to finish 9-8 this season, which would be Sean McVay’s sixth season with a record above .500.
Brinson cites his affinity for Matthew Stafford, as well as the Rams’ bad injury luck in 2022 as reasons for him believing they can go 9-8 this season.
Probably the biggest differential between the Vegas line and my projection. Some will claim it’s my noted affinity for Matthew Stafford but it has much more to do with a weakened NFC, trusting Sean McVay and believing injuries won’t stifle this team like they did in 2022. L.A. (146.5) was right behind Denver (148.5) for most Adjusted Games Lost last year, which could signal some improvement. Go 2-2 out of the gate or better and the Rams might be going full Undertaker GIF.
May 20, 2023 at 8:50 am #144208Billy_TParticipantI don’t want this to be true, obviously, but I think this assessment of their off-season is accurate, and it doesn’t say good things about 2023:
Rams earn grade of D- for departure-filled offseason
Cameron DaSilva
May 19, 2023 10:32 am PTThere isn’t a team in the NFL that has made fewer additions this offseason than the Los Angeles Rams. That’s because they still have yet to sign a single free agent. The only non-draft additions to this roster are Hunter Long, who was acquired in the Jalen Ramsey trade with the Dolphins, and Vincent Gray, who was claimed off waivers from the Saints this week. That’s it.
On the flip side, they’ve lost Ramsey, Leonard Floyd, Bobby Wagner, Allen Robinson, Nick Scott, Greg Gaines, A’Shawn Robinson, Taylor Rapp, David Long Jr. and David Edwards. See the contrast?
In no way did the Rams get better this offseason. That doesn’t mean they won’t have a better record than they did in 2022, but the roster itself has certainly not improved.
Gilberto Manzano of Sports Illustrated has been unimpressed by the Rams’ moves this spring and he appropriately gave them a terrible grade on his NFC West report card. He gave the Rams a D- for their offseason so far, expecting another losing season from Los Angeles.
Outside of creating cap space for next season, the Rams didn’t do much for this year’s team. McVay will likely use the underdog role to motivate his inexperienced roster, and they’ll probably win a few games with Stafford, Kupp and Donald still there. Perhaps the rookie class will show enough flashes throughout the season to become building blocks for the future. But expect the Rams to endure back-to-back losing seasons after winning the Super Bowl, as they might find themselves in the race for Williams and Maye by Halloween.
The Rams aren’t necessarily looking to compete this season. They’re using 2023 as a reset year before likely getting more aggressive next offseason with an abundance of cap space and a first-round pick (yes, really!). Of course, they could choose to trade that first-rounder for a proven veteran as they have so many times before, but with their new shift in mentality from the “F them picks” era, they’ll probably hold onto that pick.
If they’re bad enough in 2023, they could even find themselves in contention for the top two quarterbacks, Caleb Williams or Drake Maye, as Manzano mentioned.
May 20, 2023 at 9:08 am #144209Billy_TParticipantIn my view, the Rams overall strategy was a bit confusing. In one sense, it was the strategy of a team without many holes on the roster, which is clearly not this team. In another sense, it was the strategy of a team that has basically taken a red-shirt year in 2023, waiting for 2024 to get here as soon as possible. Far too quick, IMO, to dump young players from recent draft classes, without compensation, and far too quick to move on from key vets they just brought in, especially Wagner. And, yes, they were in Cap hell and had to make cuts. But several of the players they let go were still in rookie contracts, or signed for “reasonable” dollars with other teams. Nick Scott and D’Shawn Robinson come to mind, especially.
Anyway . . . I’m still pulling for them, but I don’t really feel the need to agree with their actions, or their language regarding where they are. To me, this is clearly a rebuilding year, with more than a hint of desperation attached. “Remodel” or whatever the current term is . . . it’s FA spin, as far as I’m concerned.
And while we’re at it, get off my lawn!!
;>)
May 23, 2023 at 11:48 am #144222Ramsey GlissadevilParticipantWe still got to play the games.
May 24, 2023 at 6:46 am #144226nittany ramModeratorIf they stay healthy there is still enough talent on offense to carry the team to 9 or so wins.
May 24, 2023 at 10:13 am #144227ZooeyModeratorIf they’re bad enough in 2023, they could even find themselves in contention for the top two quarterbacks, Caleb Williams or Drake Maye, as Manzano mentioned.
Uh…no.
May 27, 2023 at 11:19 am #144247nittany ramModerator- This reply was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by nittany ram.
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June 18, 2023 at 7:30 pm #144403znModeratorPARAM
Despite getting 99.9% of NFL/Rams news on the internet, I’m still a sucker for the magazines. Pre internet habits are hard to break, I guess. Picked up Lindy’s NFL Preview and Athlon NFL Preview today.
To quote Athlon….
“Rams general manager Les Snead declined to call 2023 a rebuilding year, despite dumping several key players via trade or release….including Jalen Ramsey, Leonard Floyd and Allen Robinson [me: funny they don’t include Bobby Wagner]….and accumulating 74.2 million in dead money. Paying starters to leave strongly indicates the once-mighty Rams are rebuilding but Snead can get away with calling 2023 a “remodel” because QB Matt Stafford, WR Cooper Kupp and DT Aaron Donald are still on the roster while head coach Sean McVay remains on the sidelines. Not many rebuilding teams have that type of core group with one of the best head coaches in the NFL”.
To quote Lindy’s…..
“3 THINGS TO LOOK FOR…..
1) Time for the young guys: The Rams drafted a league high 14 players and signed 26 UDFAs. But they lost 20 players to free agency as they work to get their cap more manageable.
2) Can McVay bounce back? He’s only 37 years old but McVay didn’t appear to take much joy out of last year’s disappointing season. [Me: No shit???] After having so much success his first 6 seasons, it’ll be interesting to see if McVay can get things turned around and how long this remodeling process will take. [Me: Different magazine/called it ‘remodeling’ ]
3) Defense will lean on Ernest Jones: The Rams will lean on Jones to help fill the defensive void. Jones said he learned how to be a pro daily from Bobby Wagner last season and is ready to take on more of a leadership role on the defense”They list “key additions” as Mike LaFleur, Hunter Long and Brett Rypien!!!
“Key loss” Jalen Ramsey
“Key losses” Aboushi, Brewer, Malcolm Brown, Dixon, Edwards, Floyd, Gaines, Gay, Gervase, Haley, Harris, Hill, Howard, Long, Mayfield, Nsekhe, Orzech, Perkins, Pinkney, Powell, Rapp, A. Robinson, A’Shawn Robinson, Scott, Skura, Wagner, Wolford.I guess “key losses” would be EVERYBODY, though to their credit they had Floyd, Gaines, Hill, Rapp, A’Shawn, Scott and Wagner in bold type. Accurately, Allen Robinson wasn’t. But seriously, Perkins? Pinkney? Brewer? I would have also had Powell in bold.
Anyway, as you might expect from publications covering the entire NFL, they’re not going to have pinpoint accuracy but…..in Athlon’s “Final Analysis” they wrote:
“The Rams have a top heavy roster with Stafford, Kupp and Donald at the forefront, and with so much inexperience across the roster, it could be another long year for McVay. The Rams don’t appear to be a playoff contender but they added depth to the OL, and that could be enough to keep this squad competitive after Thanksgiving.
But the offense isn’t this team’s biggest problem. The unknown defensive players behind Donald likely will dictate whether the Rams are competing for the #1 pick or fighting for a wild card spot. But with McVay on the sidelines, don’t be surprised if the Rams have a better-than-expected season as a new era begins in Los Angeles”
Lindy’s “Intangibles”:
“While the Rams will roll out a much younger roster in 2023, they have one of the most experienced coaching staffs to help guide those players for bigger roles this year. Coaches like Raheem Morris, Eric Henderson, Chris Shula, Eric Yarber, Zac Robinson and Ron Gould should provide mentorship, structure and strong coaching fundamentals for McVay’s green roster, helping them grow and develop quickly over the duration of the season”
June 23, 2023 at 12:53 am #144427znModeratorfrom https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2023/6/22/23770104/rams-offseason-what-we-learned-matthew-stafford
Gilberto Manzano of Sports Illustrated recently listed one thing that he learned from every team this offseason. What did he learn about the Rams? “(LA) will put up a fight.” Here’s what Manzano had to say,
“The Rams could easily be one of the teams tanking this season for the prize quarterbacks next draft, but I continue to focus on them keeping Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp and Aaron Donald, and having Sean McVay return after he contemplated leaving for a TV analyst job. That group alone could make the Rams a feisty team that might find itself in the mix for a wild-card spot in December.”
June 26, 2023 at 9:58 am #144458znModerator2023 NFL Power Rankings, via @PFF
1) Chiefs
2) Eagles
3) 49ers
4) Bengals
5) Bills
6) Jets
7) Cowboys
8) Chargers
9) Browns
10) Ravens
11) Dolphins
12) Jaguars
13) Giants
14) Vikings
15) Lions
16) Seahawks
17) Steelers
18) Packers
19) Bears
20) Patriots
21) Buccaneers…— NFL Stats (@NFL_Stats) June 25, 2023
June 26, 2023 at 1:39 pm #144468znModeratorWay-too-early Rams 53-man roster predictions: 15 rookies make the team
By Jourdan Rodrigue
There is no legitimate logic behind churning out a 53-man roster prediction this time of year, especially for a Rams 90-man roster that features 40 rookies … who haven’t played any snaps of meaningful football yet because spring workouts are largely for drills and scheme installations. In fact, 53-man roster predictions this time of year are an exercise in futility on par with record predictions.
But hey, at least it’s fun to debate! For now, I have 15 rookies making this roster.
Let me know what you think in the comments below, and I’ll also try to address any questions you have. Reminder, this is not a depth chart.
Quarterback (2)
Matthew Stafford, Stetson Bennett (R)
The Rams could probably afford to keep a more veteran player, such as Brett Rypien, on their practice squad instead of opening an additional roster spot for him.Offensive line (10)
Alaric Jackson, Steve Avila (R), Coleman Shelton, Tremayne Anchrum, Logan Bruss, Rob Havenstein, Joe Noteboom, Brian Allen, Warren McClendon (R), AJ Arcuri
It remains to be seen how Noteboom, whom the Rams seem financially committed to, returns from his Achilles injury (or what position he’ll actually play). Allen took a pay cut this spring to remain with the team. McClendon is a player the staff sees high potential for, but he has been rehabbing a knee issue.Running back (4)
Cam Akers, Sony Michel, Kyren Williams, Zach Evans (R)
Michel should bring some balance to any heavier personnel/short-yardage situations and is great in pass protection. He’ll also be a good veteran presence for a young group, minus Akers.Wide receiver (7)
Cooper Kupp, Van Jefferson, Ben Skowronek, Tutu Atwell, Puka Nacua (R), Demarcus Robinson, Lance McCutcheon
There are a lot of questions surrounding this group, including which player will take control of the No. 3 role.Tight end (4)
Tyler Higbee, Hunter Long, Brycen Hopkins, Davis Allen (R)
I could also see the Rams keeping only three tight ends, especially with Skowronek’s versatility … but that will get clearer into training camp.Defensive line (7)
Aaron Donald, Kobie Turner (R), Marquise Copeland, Bobby Brown III, Earnest Brown IV, Jonah Williams, Larrell Murchison
This group, minus Donald, is a pretty big question mark. And, keep in mind: Some of these players are listed as “DE” on the Rams’ online roster, which is not necessarily accurate. They are working out with the interior defensive linemen in practices. One player who could end up surprising people and sticking to the 53-man roster is the Rams’ last pick this spring, Desjuan Johnson. Coach Sean McVay noted Johnson as a player who impressed him in the spring.If I’m the Rams, I’d possibly be looking for a larger-framed (and cheap) veteran pickup here. Inexperience is one thing, but this Rams defensive line doesn’t have a ton of size.
Outside linebacker (5)
Michael Hoecht, Daniel Hardy, Byron Young (R), Nick Hampton (R), Ochaun Mathis (R)
This is a season the Rams could keep one more pass rusher than usual because they have so many new young players who need to get relevant experience. This is another group full of questions, though one characteristic stands out early: speed. That will help on special teams, too.I went back and forth on putting Keir Thomas on the roster, just because numbers were needed for the defensive backs. That extra spot could also have come from the defensive line, or tight end, or even offensive line if the Rams end up moving a player. For the purposes of this roster math, a spot was freed up here for all of the Rams’ pass-rusher draftees and an even count between safeties and cornerbacks.
Inside linebacker (3)
Ernest Jones, Christian Rozeboom, Jake Hummel
Jones will enter a significant third season where, as of now, he’ll be expected to wear the “green dot.” That means he’ll communicate the defensive calls to the rest of the defense. Hummel and Rozeboom could be good depth, not necessarily because they’ll get a ton of defensive snaps, but because both are talented special teams players.Safety (4)
Jordan Fuller, Russ Yeast, Quentin Lake, Jason Taylor II (R)
A group featuring these four players actually has a lot of potential, despite its youth and relative inexperience (minus Fuller).Cornerback (4)
Cobie Durant, Derion Kendrick, Robert Rochell, Tre’Vius Tomlinson (R)
The Rams often keep four cornerbacks on their initial 53-man roster, but again, depending on how numbers shake out elsewhere, I could see them keeping more. One of their many undrafted free agents could surprise us, especially because Rochell, the only cornerback above 6 feet in this group, needs to take a step forward and truly secure a role entering his third season.Specialists (3)
Kicker Tanner Brown (R), long snapper Alex Ward (R), punter Ethan Evans (R)
All rookies! It’ll be fine, right? … Right?June 30, 2023 at 8:29 pm #144505znModeratorWe all knew the Rams had a bill that was coming due. Their approach was fun but you cant ignore picks and the cap forever. It's just shocking how fast it all came apart. Now the climb back starts. https://t.co/957zV22uVx
— Frank Schwab (@YahooSchwab) June 26, 2023
2023 NFL Preview: ‘Boring’ Rams take foot off the gas after awful Super Bowl defense
Frank Schwab
NFL/betting writer
Mon, Jun 26, 2023, 5:21 AM PDT·11 min readIf the Los Angeles Rams didn’t win a Super Bowl two seasons ago, everything would look calamitous about now.
The Rams finished a horrendous 5-12 last season. The Rams had to deal with another retirement tease from coach Sean McVay, though McVay stayed again. They traded star cornerback Jalen Ramsey to the Miami Dolphins and got very little back. The Rams signed two outside veteran free agents: backup quarterback Brett Rypien on a one-year, $1.08 million deal, and then in June they added receiver Demarcus Robinson for one year and $1.165 million. Los Angeles didn’t have the draft picks to replenish the roster, unless a lot of third-day picks hit. Time seems to be ticking on how long Matthew Stafford and Aaron Donald will be around, too.
The offseason was so bad, COO Kevin Demoff had to send an open letter to season ticket holders in late March, reassuring them they expected to still compete for a playoff spot but explaining that the team knew it would have to “pull back on our typical approach to help continue our sustained run of success.” That meant instead of their usual splashy trades and lavish signings, they would hold onto draft picks and get the salary cap in order. That’s why the Rams have an astonishing $72.2 million in dead cap space this year.
Going into the offseason general manager Les Snead called what the Rams had to go through a “remodel” and not a rebuild. He acknowledged, via the Los Angeles Daily News, the Rams would have to “not press the gas as much, pay a little bit of the debt that we’ve accumulated.”
“We’re the ‘boring’ Rams this year,” Snead said, via The Athletic.
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It doesn’t have to take long for NFL teams to rebuild. If you hear that a team has set itself back a decade, you can ignore it. That’s two, maybe three, lifetimes in the NFL these days. Demoff’s letter to season ticket holders pointed out that the Super Bowl-winning team had 19 starters that didn’t start in the Rams’ Super Bowl loss three years prior. Things can change, good or bad, in a hurry. The Rams know that well.That doesn’t mean a “remodel” will be easy, or that 2023 will show many signs of progress. The Rams didn’t totally tear it down when they traded Ramsey, but it seems like they’re holding onto the past by not moving Stafford, Donald or Cooper Kupp. They have a full load of draft picks in 2024 including their first-rounder after a patient offseason. Maybe they should have dove in and traded anything of value, perhaps entering the Caleb Williams/Drake Maye sweepstakes. There was probably too much pride for that.
A rough couple years are coming but you can’t erase Feb. 12, 2022, when the Rams beat the Cincinnati Bengals for the Lombardi Trophy. The many experts who want to dunk on their all-in approach seem to forget that. That will be remembered a lot longer than the Rams’ record these few seasons as they regroup. However, whenever the list of bad seasons for defending Super Bowl champions is brought up, the 2022 Rams will be the first one mentioned.
The Rams were dreadful. It didn’t look that bad before the bye, when they were 3-3 with losses to the Buffalo Bills, Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers. Those were three of the best teams in the NFL. After that it was painful. They lost six straight after the bye. They did have a ridiculous comeback win against the Las Vegas Raiders with Baker Mayfield playing quarterback a couple days after he was signed, and a blowout of a Denver Broncos team that was having an even more awful season than the Rams. But those were rare highlights.
They lost Stafford, Kupp and Donald to season-ending injuries. The Rams built a top-heavy roster and those injuries made their lineup look like it was the preseason. Their 12 losses was the most for a defending Super Bowl champion, beating the record of the 1999 Broncos who went 6-10 after John Elway retired. McVay, who contemplated retirement after the Super Bowl too, looked miserable most of the season and it sounded like he was going to step away. Then he suddenly said he’d be back.
That’s the first step back for the Rams. McVay and Snead are excellent at their jobs. Maybe Stafford, with growing health concerns, won’t be around much longer. Donald, on a short list of candidates for greatest defensive player ever, has considered retirement too. But there should be faith in the Rams’ brass to fix things quickly.
McVay and Snead are practically starting over. We’ve seen their approach in chasing a championship, and that hyper-aggressive strategy might not work with a total rebuild. We’ll see if the Rams can drive in the slow lane for a while.
Offseason grade
What does life in the NFL look like if you keep kicking your cap issues down the road? The Rams’ free-agent class this offseason is backup quarterback Brett Rypien and receiver Demarcus Robinson. That’s it. Meanwhile, these are among the players they lost in free agency, cuts or trades: cornerback Jalen Ramsey, edge rusher Leonard Floyd, receiver Allen Robinson II, punter Riley Dixon, kicker Matt Gay, safeties Taylor Rapp and Nick Scott, linebacker Bobby Wagner, defensive linemen A’Shawn Robinson and Greg Gaines, and quarterbacks Baker Mayfield and John Wolford. The Rams did get back tight end Hunter Long (one career reception for eight yards) from the Dolphins in the Ramsey trade along with a third-round pick. That’s not getting anyone excited. The draft was all about quantity. The Rams didn’t have a first-round pick. Guard Steve Avila, at No. 36 overall, was their first pick. Edge rusher Byron Young and defensive tackle Kobie Turner were third-round picks. Quarterback Stetson Bennett was a curious pick in the fourth. The Rams had 14 picks but 10 came in the fifth round or later. Some of those players will contribute out of necessity, but it’s hard to rely on late-round picks to become difference makers. The Rams signed 26 undrafted free agents, a stunning number that is another indication of how thin the roster is. It was a dreadful offseason.Grade: F
Quarterback report
Matthew Stafford ended last season on injured reserve with a spinal cord contusion. Before that he had a concussion. Stafford missed eight games and wasn’t great in the nine games he played, with 10 touchdowns and eight interceptions. Not all of it was his fault. He took 29 sacks behind a beaten-up offensive line — Stafford was sacked 30 times in 17 games during the 2021 season — and it probably won’t get a lot better in 2023. Stafford has a Super Bowl ring, has made a lot of money and thrown for more than 52,000 passing yards. He also has taken 444 sacks in his career. Nobody would have blamed him if he retired. He wasn’t ready to walk away at age 35.“I felt really confident I was coming back. I feel like more people were less confident that than I was,” Stafford said in April. “But no, I was ready to go, ready to play as soon as I was cleared. And I feel great. I feel healthy. And, you know, I’m not 25. But I definitely feel good.”
Assuming Stafford is healthy, he still has the talent to be a top-10 quarterback. The bigger question is if he can play at that level with the holes in the lineup around him.
BetMGM odds breakdown
The Rams’ win total at BetMGM is 6.5. While it’s hard to completely bury any team with Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp and Aaron Donald, the under seems like the right side. The Rams probably should have been lower in these preview rankings, but there’s still some blind faith in that key group of four individuals, who could all have Hall of Fame arguments when they’re done. But the Rams could be really bad. At least they have their 2024 first-round pick.Yahoo’s fantasy take
From Yahoo’s Scott Pianowski: “Cam Akers finally asserted himself as LA’s featured back in the final third of last year, and good numbers went on the board. Over his final six starts, he produced 512 rushing yards (4.9 per carry) and scored six touchdowns, checking in as the RB3 over that cumulative period. The Rams look like a non-contender on paper and the offensive line has concerns, but Akers has little backfield competition and likely marked his territory with that late-season run. Currently priced as the RB18 in Yahoo ADP, Akers probably isn’t a home-run pick — his national ADP is cheaper — but I can at least see profit potential.”Stat to remember
One of the good stories from the 2022 Rams was Akers. After a slow start to the season, Akers was inactive for two games before the trade deadline due to “personal reasons” and there were reports that he and coach Sean McVay disagreed about his role. The Rams didn’t get a trade done and brought Akers back to the lineup. By the end of the season he was back to a workhorse role, gaining 345 yards with a 5.5-yard average in the final three games. He had three 100-yard games for a miserable offense with an offensive line in shambles. Akers, who suffered an Achilles injury in 2021 and rushed back for the team’s playoff run, went from practically being off the roster to looking like the arrow is pointing back up. It was a really strange season for Akers, but it worked out pretty well for everyone involved.Burning question
Who are the Rams’ building blocks?
Here’s a telling exercise: Figure out who is the fourth-best player on the Rams. The first three are obviously Aaron Donald, Cooper Kupp and Matthew Stafford. And No. 4 is … running back Cam Akers? Tight end Tyler Higbee? Offensive tackle Rob Havenstein? Whatever the answer, it’s not good.The strategy of trading picks means that you have to hit the mid- and late-round picks you do have, and the Rams haven’t done well in that regard. The best picks the Rams have made since 2017 (when they stole Kupp in the second round) among those still on the roster, are offensive tackle Joseph Noteboom (third round, 2018), Akers (second round, 2020), receiver Van Jefferson Jr. (third round, 2020), safety Jordan Fuller (sixth round, 2020), linebacker Ernest Jones (third round, 2021) and receiver Ben Skowronek (seventh round, 2021). There’s not one top-tier starter on that list. And no 2022 rookies made a notable impact last season, even with the team looking for answers.
Had the Rams hit more picks the past few years, a rebuild would be easier. But they haven’t, and that makes the hole a lot deeper.
Best-case scenario
It’s hard to be optimistic about the Rams, but it’s also hard to look past some of the key figures from the Super Bowl team. Sean McVay is an excellent coach. Aaron Donald might still be the best player in the NFL when healthy. Cooper Kupp had one of the greatest seasons any player has ever had in 2021 and he was having another monster season in 2022 before his injury. Matthew Stafford is a capable quarterback. And maybe with better injury luck, the pieces around them contribute a lot more. It can’t be that outlandish to believe the Rams can be in playoff contention, right? The only concern is if they’re in the race before the deadline and start trading off picks again.Nightmare scenario
It’s possible, for different reasons, we’ve already seen the best of Sean McVay, Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp and Aaron Donald and they’re all further down the back nine than we realize. We could actually be a year from a real Rams rebuild, which is scary considering they just had one miserable offseason. It’s not out of the question that the Rams could have the worst record in football if a few things go wrong, and that actually wouldn’t be the worst thing. What would be worse is if they’re really bad but also get enough wins to knock them out of position to start over with one of the top quarterback prospects in next year’s draft.The crystal ball says
The Rams will win some games. They have no depth and will be starting some players who are not ready for that role, but there will be a few games in which their stars take over. It will still be a long season for a team that isn’t far removed from a championship, but that won’t be a surprise. The Rams had to make a decision this offseason. It couldn’t have been enjoyable to admit that they needed to slow things down and retool the roster, but it was the right move.[/quote]June 30, 2023 at 8:37 pm #144506znModeratorWe all knew the Rams had a bill that was coming due. Their approach was fun but you cant ignore picks and the cap forever.
Fwiw I don’t buy the “bill came due” argument. They could have done a number of things in 2023 they’ve done many times in the past to alleviate cap pressure, and could have done things like keep Ramsey for 23. I think they did 2023 by choice–they deliberately took the 23 dead money hit to remodel for 24. The alternative was to plow ahead in 23 and then rebuild later on.
July 3, 2023 at 11:19 pm #144523znModeratorHe discusses the NFC West at the 4:33 mark.
If you were to ask 20 NFL experts whether the Rams will make the playoffs this season, at least 15 of them would say no. There just isn’t much outside confidence in the Rams this year, coming off a 5-12 campaign and after seeing all the offseason losses they suffered.
Colin Cowherd isn’t ready to count them out yet, however. The FOX Sports host went through and picked his division winners and wild-card teams for the 2023 season and he has the Rams making the postseason.
He doesn’t expect them to win the NFC West, but second place in the division is good enough for a wild-card berth in this scenario. He expects them to win around nine games and sneak into the playoffs, putting his confidence in Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp, Aaron Donald and Sean McVay.
“I think the Rams and the Seahawks, like the Titans and Texans, will be tied at the end of the year, both winning about nine games,” he said. “I don’t think Geno Smith will double down on that year. Most of their stars are still very young, schedule may be a tad tougher. The Rams still have Stafford, they have Sean McVay, they have Cooper Kupp, they have Aaron Donald. Don’t tell me they’re gonna stay down long. It’s a coach-quarterback-weapon league.”
July 5, 2023 at 7:43 pm #144530znModeratorThree reasons NFL should not sleep on Sean McVay’s revamped Rams
Eric Williams
After the Los Angeles Rams finished an embarrassing 5-12 in 2022, expectations are predictably low for Sean McVay’s team heading into the 2023 season.
According to FOX Bet, the over/under for Rams victories this season is 6.5. The Rams are +300 to make the playoffs (bet $100 to win $300) and +1000 to win the NFC West (bet $100 to win $1,000).
Due to salary cap constraints after riding general manager Les Snead’s “F Them Picks” approach to a Super Bowl title two years ago, the Rams lost 16 significant contributors in free agency this offseason. They also traded Jalen Ramsey, the team’s best defensive back, to the Miami Dolphins for a third-round selection and tight end Hunter Long.
Because of L.A.’s youth movement — the team selected a league-high 14 players in this year’s draft — many around the league expect the Rams to fall on their face again in 2023.
However, there’s a possibility that Los Angeles could surprise for the upcoming season — and it all starts with McVay.
“You’re aware of it,” he told reporters during mandatory minicamp when asked if he’s motivated by the negative talk nationally about his team. “I think you want to be motivated by being in the moment and being as good as we possibly can be. And I know this: There’s a lot of things that we can learn from when you draw on experiences.”
Despite the narrative that the Rams will struggle, here are three reasons why L.A. could get things turned around sooner rather than later.
1. Sean McVay can still coach.
Since his arrival in 2017, McVay is 60-38 (.633 winning percentage) during the regular season and 10-7 in the postseason. Only the Kansas City Chiefs have won more games during McVay’s time as L.A.’s head coach. He has led the team to two Super Bowl appearances and one title. The Rams have won the NFC West three times and McVay has had just one losing season in six years.
Pro Football Focus recently ranked McVay No. 6 among all 32 head coaches in the NFL. That sounds about right.
Although he contemplated giving up coaching after last season, McVay will be motivated to prove he’s still one of the best to do it following the worst performance by a defending Super Bowl champ in NFL history.
McVay has an experienced coaching staff in place, including defensive coordinator Raheem Morris, offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur, defensive line coach Eric Henderson, receivers coach Eric Yarber, linebackers coach Mike Shula and defensive backs coach Aubrey Pleasant. That group will help teach and mentor the 40 new players on the roster.
2. Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford and Cooper Kupp are healthy.
L.A.’s three foundational players all finished last season on injured reserve, missing a combined 22 games in 2022.
As a team, Los Angeles finished second-worst in the NFL in Football Outsiders’ adjusted games lost metric, which measures injuries to starters and important situational players. Only the Denver Broncos were worse.
The year before, during L.A.’s Super Bowl run, the Rams finished No. 5 in this statistic. So, there should be some regression to the mean in 2023.
And while Donald (32 years old), Stafford (35) and Kupp (30) may all be on the back nine of their careers, if they can play to the back of their trading cards and help get the most out of L.A.’s young roster, the Rams could certainly surprise some teams this season.
The trio plays three of the most important positions on the field and if healthy should have a significant impact for the Rams on a weekly basis.
3. The NFC West is no longer the best division in the league.
Two seasons ago, the NFC West had three teams make the playoffs, with the Rams and San Francisco 49ers meeting in the NFC Championship Game at SoFi Stadium.
But much has changed since then. Jimmy Garoppolo and Russell Wilson are no longer in the division. Kyler Murray is recovering from ACL knee surgery. And the NFC East has an argument for the best division in football, with three teams making the postseason last year and the Philadelphia Eagles reaching the Super Bowl.
L.A. finished 3-9 in the NFC and 1-5 in the NFC West last season. Despite facing the ninth-toughest strength of schedule with an opponent winning percentage at .533, the 2023 Rams should win a couple more games and possibly compete for a wild-card spot if everything goes as planned for McVay.
“What we’re trying to do is build a really good football team here and that takes work,” Stafford told reporters during offseason work. “Whether people think it’s going to happen or not doesn’t matter to us. Just because people said we should win the Super Bowl two years ago didn’t mean we won it. We put the work in and executed. So that’s the mindset that we’re taking.”
July 18, 2023 at 1:36 pm #144615znModeratorJuly 25, 2023 at 9:13 pm #144642znModeratorSean McVay on low expectations for Rams: “They don’t believe in us”
Sometimes, coaches and players have to contrive disrespect. Sometimes, it happens naturally.
For the Rams in 2023, the perception of low expectations requires no embellishment.
The folks in Vegas have set the over-under for the team’s wins at 6.5. Rams coach Sean McVay was asked about it on Tuesday.
“Whatever I say, I’m going to get in trouble right now,” McVay said. “They don’t believe in us.”
He’s right. “They” don’t believe in the Rams. And for good reason. No Super Bowl champion fell farther than the Rams from 2021 to 2022. And an eff-them-picks roster continues to reveal potentially significant flaws.
That said, the Rams could easily win more than 6.5 games this season. In a wide-open NFC, they could contend for a postseason berth.
Much of it comes down to health. Will key players like Matthew Stafford, Aaron Donald, and Cooper Kupp hold up? If they do, the Rams likely will be better than expected.
Still, the schedule has plenty of tough games. Beyond two against the 49ers and Seahawks, the Rams face the teams of the AFC North and the teams of the NFC East. That’s 10 games right there.
There’s nevertheless something to be said for going from a measuring-stick opponent to a team that most won’t regard as a high-end opponent. It could open the door for the Rams to win enough games to find themselves in the mix for the 2023 postseason
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