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Zooey
ModeratorHo-lee shit.
Well, if I’m Von Miller, I take that.
I don’t know how much is guaranteed, but damn. There is no way the Rams were in the ballpark of that. They probably were looking at 2, maybe 3 years.
Zooey
Moderator======= 3, 4, 5, 6(2), 7(2) — 7 total picks. This will be the Rams weakest draft in many years, I assume. Barring some miraculous drafting. The Price for all the successful wheeling and dealing really kicks in this year, I guess. w v
Yeah, last time they had a draft that looked like that, this was all they could muster up out of it.
Zooey
ModeratorThe Rams’ secondary was overflowing a couple of years ago. It’s now kind of thin.
Hopefully, Rochelle will be good.
And there will be other additions, I’m sure.
Zooey
ModeratorI disagree though not in a major way. Back when the invasion of Iraq was building up, it was possible to debunk major narratives justifying it, such as the claim the WMD were likely to exist in Iraq. The MSM was not pushing that counter-narrative. Yet we (quite correctly) deduced that the dominant narrative did not hold up and that the opposite was far more likely.
That went through my mind as I was writing that post.
That was a case of the disinformation coming largely from the gov’t, though. The media acted as a stenographer in that case. It just seems now like we have a media that gets out in front of the story, manufacturing the BS themselves. The media seems to have morphed from pipeline of BS to generator of BS. The media itself is doctoring photos and videos, and so on.
Zooey
ModeratorAll the usual power-blocs trying to control the narratives. …as an aside, I have come to call this the ‘post-modern-condition.’ Just my own term, i use inside my own head. Its the condition “I” feel because I can no longer trust 99 percent of the ‘info’ that I am assaulted with each day. I have no idea how much of this Jacobin article is ‘true’. So, I am left with what? Well, I still trust my ‘big picture’ ideas. For example Capitalism is destroying the biosphere. Capitalism is a sophisticated Lie-machine. Nation-States operate like Gangster states. Etc. I trust my ‘big picture’ notions (mostly. always open to modifications). But I do ‘not’ trust the more ‘granular’ info or specifics about ‘what is going on’ especially in real time. ‘post-modern-conditon’. An unsatisfying state of mind. For me. Always skeptical about the granular ‘info’ and narratives.
Same.
I was discussing this with my son on Sunday. My “sense” is that we used to be able to more-or-less believe that the media gave us facts, although they would frame the facts to represent the interest of the elite class. There has always been disinformation, but I used to believe that for the most part, we were given facts. The trick was to perceive the framing at work around those facts.
Now, MSM makes shit up themselves. It used to be just the corps and the gov’t engaged in disinformation. Now the media is making shit up.
This is a very big problem. Nothing is really reliable until 25 years later, and all the dust has settled, and people have worked hard to assemble the truth. Even that is imperfect.
So…we are left with the Big Picture.
Disturbingly, this leaves us feeling disconnected and powerless which, of course, is among the goals of the propaganda. Win as many minds as you can, and marginalize everyone else, one way or another.
But then a part of me doesn’t see much difference in whether I feel powerless under the weight of uncertainty about granular facts or not because I feel powerless anyway. Even if I could KNOW with a certainty what’s going on, what difference would it make? What are ya gonna do? Vote for Bernie?
It is literally impossible to stop the destruction. Tank Man was amazingly brave. How long did he delay the inevitable, though? You can’t change it by voting, and it can’t be changed by direct action either. Fossil fuels, banks, militaries, media, and the CIA (et al) are gonna do their thing.
The choice seems to be between being a martyr (which seems pointless), or just pick up a hobby to pursue until civilization goes over a cliff.
Zooey
ModeratorRams OL Andrew Whitworth announces retirement after a 16-year NFL career. pic.twitter.com/TkUS1EZilz
— NFL (@NFL) March 15, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorI look forward to this time of year, especially.
Because I can watch what the suits do in the executive suite.
It’s in September, when the players take the field, that shit gets dull.
Zooey
Moderator-Les trades a 5th rounder for a player another team gave up on.
-Said player starts 33 games over 2.5 years, helping team win a Super Bowl.
-Player leaves via free agency.
-Snead poised to collect a comp pick to begin the cycle of life again. https://t.co/iNSU17kzLN
— SeattleRams (@seattlerams_nfl) March 15, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorAt this point, I’m kinda worried about the fans coming in all lazy, confident, and satisfied.
Gotta be honest, it’s one thing for y’all to ease up on the quality posting for a couple of weeks after the Super Bowl, but I feel like you guys need to pick up your game.
When I check in with this board, I expect there to be some fresh posts with quality content, and y’all still acting like there ain’t another Lombardi to run down from behind.
Gotta get hungry, my dudes.
Zooey
ModeratorThis is good.
Even if Whitworth retires, I feel good about the OL for next year.
Zooey
ModeratorBrian Allen returning to the Rams on a three-year, $24 million deal, per source.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 14, 2022
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Zooey
ModeratorThe Rams also announced a two-year deal for C/G Coleman Shelton. No tender – a multi-year deal for Shelton, who not only can lend depth at C but also can play guard (the latter is pretty important).
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) March 14, 2022
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Run it back, 6️⃣5️⃣! 👏 pic.twitter.com/mvfsjf1F5L
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) March 14, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorI dunno. I do think it would be helpful if people kept up the narrative that the Rams didn’t “earn” this Super Bowl because the bought it, and the NFL rigged it, and the refs gave it to them, and so on.
Zooey
ModeratorPer LT Joe Noteboom's agency, @ApexSportsGroup, he is re-signing with the Rams. This is big news, obviously, as team wondered whether they'd be able to keep him depending on market.
Deal is for three years, per source.
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) March 14, 2022
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Zooey
ModeratorZooey
ModeratorIts simple people: Look it up. Barrel of oil June 2008 was $126 and a gallon of gas was $4.11 per gallon. Now a barrel of oil is $106 while a gallon of gas is at $6.02 per gallon. Do you understand we are being robbed in front of our eyes?
— Sean Eggman (@sean_eggman) March 12, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorI don’t need Deshaun Watson on the Seahawks.
== Not up to you though is it. Its up to jesus-christ-our-lord-and-savior. w v
Rumor has it that he believes he is on the way out, though.
Zooey
ModeratorWatson in Seattle doesn’t bother me. He’s just a younger, rape-ier, version of Russell Wilson. And the Rams beat him as a matter of routine.
I don’t think Watson elevates Seattle to a real threat, but without Watson, what do they have? Hasselback?
I would just as soon Seattle languished for a few seasons in Hell, and gave the Rams an opportunity to best their record of -7 yards allowed in a game.
Zooey
ModeratorNot up to you though is it. Its up to jesus-christ-our-lord-and-savior.
Rumor has it that he believes he’s on the way out, though.
March 12, 2022 at 11:11 am in reply to: Seattle trades Wilson to Denver…update, & release Wagner #137482Zooey
ModeratorCory Littleton was released by the Raiders
Hey z do me a favor so this issue doesn’t get lost in a dedicated thread about Seattle. Start a new thread that’s about free agents that might interest the Rams, starting with that post. If you can do that, I will reduce your posting fees this month by a solid 2%. Deal?
You know I can get 4% on any other board, right?
Zooey
ModeratorI don’t need Deshaun Watson on the Seahawks.
Zooey
ModeratorI did not know that about Arsenal and Man U. I’m a Liverpool backer, too. Since 1980 when I moved to England for 3 years. I missed out on the 90s, though, as I had no TV and no internet most of those years.
Following Liverpool now in the UCL.
Zooey
ModeratorMarch 11, 2022 at 8:57 pm in reply to: Seattle trades Wilson to Denver…update, & release Wagner #137463Zooey
ModeratorCory Littleton was released by the Raiders and it would make sense for the Rams to bring him back to address their need at ILB. https://t.co/J8Gapj5w4y
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) March 11, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorSean McVay is the only Rams coach to get the Rams to the Super Bowl twice.
That’s a fact.
Sean McVays 5 seasons with the @RamsNFL 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 pic.twitter.com/PKV2ZTcP5i
— Henry Bear (@HenryBearT) March 11, 2022
Zooey
ModeratorChris Evert vs Martina Navratilova.
I don’t think they overlapped for that long.
Borg/Connors/McEnroe was epic.
But..8/9 years? One of two sides won it all in 8/9 years. I don’t think anything matches that. You bring up individual sports, and there are probably more incidents of stretches of time dominated by a couple of individuals than there are in team sports, but I still doubt you would find 8/9 years.
Zooey
ModeratorI’ve always liked John C Reilly. He was good in the Start Trek thing, and in Chicago, and in other bits I’ve seen. I didn’t see the Stepbrothers movie which looked stupid and corny, but he’s pretty good.
I ‘ll watch the first episode, and see how that goes. The Lakers/Celtics rivalry in the 80s has to be one of sports’ greatest episodes. I don’t know what even compares to that decade in any sport. Between those two teams, one or the other of them won the championship in 8 out 9 years. And it might have been 9/10 if Magic and Byron Scott hadn’t blown up their legs during the 89 championship. That is some serious dominance over a long stretch of time by two teams.
Zooey
ModeratorWhat?
I just got a push notification an hour ago saying the grand jury indicted him on multiple charges.
Edit: I guess I can’t read, cuz….
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Zooey.
Zooey
ModeratorWell…me, too. But you have to win in LA. The Angels and Clippers have been there decades, and nobody cares. I think the Angels even won the World Series once. So that’s where the Rams are. On the shelf next to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.
For now…the Rams aren’t even the number one football team in LA, let alone up there competing with the Lakers.
USC has apparently hired a good coach, and they have lots of good will. If they get in the national championship mix, they have a reservoir of good will that will come alive.
The Rams have no reservoir.
It’s going to take time, but…nah.
They can be a flash, they can be a darling, they can be top of the charts for a bit, and shine really brightly. But two Emmy Awards is not gonna make you Lucille Ball.
Zooey
ModeratorWell, the Lakers are headed to oblivion. How long they stay there is totally unknown. And it’s true that LeBron will never have LA’s heart the way Kobe and Magic do, and Shaq and Kareem, and Pau and others. LeBron won’t be identified as a Laker. LA is grateful he brought them another banner, but he isn’t going to be loved there, especially since his championship came in the bubble. Thanks, but…this isn’t up there with the dynasty years.
But the Lakers have placed numerous icons on that shelf, and if they get themselves another young star player, and some championship run, they are right back up there. They are going to slide, but they can afford to have some losing seasons and still own more of LA’s hearts than the Rams do, unless the Rams get out there and win another one or two Super Bowls in the McVay era.
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