InvaderRam wrote:

Zooey wrote:

zn wrote:

JosinaAnderson@JosinaAnderson
Text from league source on the #Lions trade talks for QB Matthew Stafford: “I’m sure they’ll get a trade, but right now they’re looking for a sucker to overpay.”

Of course they are.

And the other teams are looking for the Lions to take a fire sale offer.

oh dear.

Yeah…..

My first reaction was shock at what the Rams gave up. It seems like a lot.

Then I figured that those picks are likely to be late first round, and that’s usually where you hit the center of the 2nd tier good prospects that isn’t much different from the mid-second round. They’re good prospects, but not like the guys in the top of the first round. I mean…you’re out of the blue chips, and into the red chips.

I saw Mack on Twitter site a rumor that Goff has become quite a party man since his contract, but that’s from Reddit and unverified.

I don’t know. If Stafford’s better than Goff, then cool. Gets to the Super Bowl, then it’s worth it. I look forward to watching him play.

zn wrote:

𝒥𝒾𝓂 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓉@Jim_Everett
The traits I see that both Andy Reid & Bruce Arians have in common? Both have extensive knowledge of the game, vast experiences, fantastic communicators/motivators and possibly the most important trait, both have learned the power of delegation.

Maybe McVay is the reincarnation of Dick Vermeil.

We got Dick Vermeil, 2nd Edition.

We got Sean McVay, 1st Edition.

He will burn himself out if he doesn’t delegate.

I just don’t like this at all.

This is looking like a bridge burning at this point, and I think it’s the low moment of the Snead Era.

I don’t mind the Rams kicking the tires on other QBs, and holding conversations, but I don’t like the public handling of this. I don’t like anything about the Rams since the Green Bay game.

McVay and Snead have done nothing to quell the fire that they lit over Goff. The Goff situation seems unnecessary to me. Why dangle him at arms’ length while holding their nose? If it’s supposed to be motivational, then they are idiots. There are ways to motivate people positively, and this isn’t it.

There may be more to the story. Maybe there is a work ethic problem, or confrontations we don’t know about, or Goff is changing play calls, or something, but barring behind-the-scenes, not-yet-revealed problems, this just doesn’t look good. The Rams can do much worse than Goff. I should know. I’ve been watching them for more than 50 years.

And…you know…the thing is, there is not a plethora of better QBs available.

Meanwhile, while Goff played poorly a bit here and there, he was mostly satisfactory, and to my eye, the Rams weakness on offense was a sometimes unstable running game (due to injuries), a sometimes unstable OL (due to injuries), and the lack of a vertical passing game. Only the latter might be partly Goff’s fault, but we’ve seen him go vertical effectively in the past, so it seems more likely that they miss Cooks. And from what I can tell, the play-calling was heavily tilted towards horizontal throws that the WR has to wait for, and rely on ROC, rather than hitting the WR in stride. I just don’t think the Rams’ regression offensively is Goff’s fault.

And what are they doing this for? I guess if they manage to bag Watson, then they’re geniuses. But short of that, wtf?

Report: Rams have explored possibility of trading for Matthew Stafford

By Cameron DaSilva

* https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/29/nfl-rams-lions-matthew-stafford-trade-market/amp/

nittany ram wrote:

InvaderRam wrote:

D’Marco Farr was on 101.1 in St. Louis this morning.

He’s pretty much convinced Snead and McVay are just trying to motivate Goff.

I’m wondering if they are trying to intimidate Goff and his agent to get him to redo his contract.

But that has never happened in the history of ever. No player ever gave back money because the performance didn’t match expectation. And if they just needed to redo the contract in order to sign someone else, this isn’t the way to go about that.

The only explanation that makes any sense is the motivational expectation, but man… this is a bad way to do it. This is the first major screw up we have seen from the front office in years.

I can’t imagine the Rams have decided they are definitely moving on from Goff.

That would be the most stunning news ever out of Rams world.

I would not be surprised to learn that they picked up the phone and talked to GB, and DET, and HOU, and maybe even somebody like the NYJ, but I have a hard time believing that they have decided that they cannot go forward with Goff.

I mean…Goff threw a lot of balls into the flat. But I have to believe that was what the play called for. I just have a very hard time believing that Goff did the dink and dunk when he wasn’t asked to do that. The man can throw the ball deep. I just. I just can’t see that. Even with the worst possible framing, Goff did not have a bad year. He is absolutely NOT the reason they won only one playoff game. Jesus. How many QBs played Zero playoff games?

Goff may not WIN games by creating explosive plays. But he doesn’t LOSE games, either.

zn wrote:

Cal wrote:

McVay’s recent comments about Goff make me more concerned about McVay than Goff.

I’ve been thinking along the same lines.

You can drop me in that column, as well.

And I will add that the Rams had a lot of coaches leave, some for positions that did not look markedly superior, and I wonder if that’s strictly “career moves.”

InvaderRam wrote:

i think it’d be a mistake.

unless they can get someone like watson. which will never happen. you stick with goff. and try to upgrade the offensive line. try to add some speed at wr. keep developing the running backs.

unless something happened with goff behind the scenes. do snead and mcvay question goff’s commitment somehow? i haven’t heard anything like that.

I agree completely.

Which leads back to… what are they playing with this non-committal crap?

South Park LA edition. 😂 pic.twitter.com/l6rqh2G3wQ

— 𝒥𝒾𝓂 𝐸𝓋𝑒𝓇𝑒𝓉𝓉 (@Jim_Everett) January 26, 2021

InvaderRam wrote:

wv wrote:

They were exactly what i think of
when i think of a 10=6 Wildcard team.

but if donald, kupp, and goff are healthy i can’t help but wonder how far this team could have gotten.

I don’t know.

The Rams were a good team this year, very good in some respects, but some days they just inexplicably did not play up to their ability. One way or another.

They lost twice to SF, lost to the NY Jets after a 10-day layoff, and the defense failed against the Packers. The path to the Super Bowl required 3 straight good games on the road against good teams. After the Jets and Seahawks losses, there was no real reason to think the Rams had a shot at pulling that feat off, especially with the Health wheels coming off at the end of the season.

It was a good season, enjoyable mostly for the defense and memorable for the early circus at PK. Certainly it was more entertaining than most seasons over the past 30 years.

Eternal Ramnation wrote:

I got the COVID. Pretty mild symptoms so far .

Oh, man. Best wishes, and let us know how it goes.

I think the bye week showed itself for GB.

I think the offense did about as well as could be expected.

I think I am disappointed by the Defense. I was just getting warmed up to having a great defense again, and feeling like the defense was the reason to watch the Rams play. I said several times that the Rams would go as far as the defense took them.

I didn’t expect zero sacks or knock downs, and zero turnovers. The biggest defensive play of the game was Williams making a pass defense. That should have been around the 9th or 10th best defensive play. The defense just did not show up, and I don’t think it was simply Donald’s rib. Aaron Rodgers didn’t even have to turn his uniform into the Laundry after the game. It’s ready to go next week as is. No stains. No sweat.

I don’t know what that was. Defense is supposed to “travel.” It’s supposed to be fine in cold weather. They made no plays.

Well. I thought they had a shot at the Super Bowl after dispatching the Bucs and Pats. And I thought they might make an honorable showing in wild card weekend after the Seahawks loss.

Got something in between.

I’m a bit disappointed because I wanted to see the defense become a signature. That was a good story line for me.

Also, I think they could beat the Bucs again, so I’m disappointed about that.

But…mostly…I am disappointed that Staley is gone when I thought we would have him another year, at least.

I agree with you, Billy.