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znModeratorWhat will Matthew Stafford's impact be on the @RamsNFL offense?
"I think they instantly become NFC Championship contenders." – @DCarr8
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— NFL Network (@nflnetwork) February 16, 2021
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"Matthew Stafford is a special thrower of the football"@89JonesNTAF has high praise for the new @RamsNFL QB đ pic.twitter.com/diipsjzCaj
— NFL Total Access (@NFLTotalAccess) February 16, 2021
February 16, 2021 at 12:43 pm in reply to: comics, jokes, one-shot memes, funny tweets, etc. #127862
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znModeratorKicking off my daily free agency preview series with Leonard Floyd, whoâs hitting the market for the second time https://t.co/dl64mrZseH
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) February 16, 2021
znModeratorMorris’s Ds through the years
Tampa, defensive backs (coordinator was Monte Kiffin_
2007, ranked 2nd (3rd in points)
2008, ranked 9th (10th in points)Tampa, as head coach
2009, ranked 27th (27th in points)
2010, ranked 17th (9th in points)
2011, ranked 30th (29th in points)Washington, as secondary coach (coordinator was Jim Haslett)
2012, ranked 28th, (22nd in points)
2013, ranked 18th, (30th in points)
2014, ranked 20th (29th in points)Atlanta, as Asst. HC/Def. Pass Gm. Coord. (coordinator was Richard Smith)
2015, ranked 16th (14th in points)’
Atlanta, defensive coordinator
2020, ranked 29th (19th in points)
znModeratorRams plan to keep Staley’s defensive scheme under Morris â with new wrinkles
Cameron DaSilva
* https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/01/26/rams-raheem-morris-defense-systemt-staley/
Free agency is still more than a month away but the Los Angeles Rams have already suffered a few significant losses to their defense. Those losses have just come on the coaching staff and not (yet) on the roster itself.
None were bigger than the departure of defensive coordinator Brandon Staley, who was hired as the Chargersâ head coach. The Rams ranked first in the NFL in scoring defense and total defense this season in Staleyâs first year as a defensive coordinator, installing a system that highlighted the ability of Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey, among others.
The Rams replaced Staley rather quickly by hiring former Falcons interim coach Raheem Morris, opting not to promote from within. With Morris guiding the defense now, Les Snead doesnât expect a whole lot to change scheme-wise.
He told reporters Tuesday that while Morris will add his own wrinkles, the overall system will remain in place.
Some fans worried that when Morris was brought in, he would completely change what Staley had done so successfully this season. Coming from primarily 4-3 defenses, there was even some speculation about whether the Rams could switch to a 4-3 front in base sets.
Thatâs still possible, but based on the way Snead is talking, itâs unlikely. With how much success the Rams had in 2020, why change much at all?
As the saying goes, âif it ainât broke, donât fix it.â And the Rams defense certainly isnât broken.
znModeratorIt's been 7 years since Aaron Donald tore up the Combine
Heâs still not human
— PFF Draft (@PFF_College) February 16, 2021
znModeratorThe Lincoln Project's 'toxic' workplace: How women are sidelined and young men are referred to as 'wizards' https://t.co/cdGkkYfWtb
— Daily Mail US (@DailyMail) February 15, 2021
znModeratorNo team blew more second-half leads than Raheem Morrisâ Falcons. Is it cause for concern in LA?
Not really, because it mostly comes down to the players â and the Rams defense is *way* better than Atlantaâs https://t.co/bxbOw7qDwv
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) February 15, 2021
znModeratorPer @PFF, Tom Brady had the lowest turnover-worthy play percentage in the NFL in 2020. Just an absolute absurdity for a quarterback in Arians' offense.
The kicker? He also had the fourth-best big time throw percentage.
— Taylor Jenkins (@TJenkinsTampa) February 15, 2021
znModeratorMatthew Stafford (56.2%) ranked 21st in depth-adjusted accuracy out of 31 qualifying quarterbacks in 2020. pic.twitter.com/lhM0CELLMW
— QB Data Mine (@QBDataMine) February 15, 2021
znModerator3x DPOY.@AaronDonald97 is a FORCE! đȘ@RamsNFL pic.twitter.com/2oMj9vvU2J
— NFL UK (@NFLUK) February 15, 2021
znModeratorfrom https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-franchise-tag-candidates-all-32-nfl-teams#LAR
LOS ANGELES RAMS: S JOHN JOHNSON III
2020 overall grade: 85.6
Projected franchise tag number: $10.496MOne of the newest additions to the PFF team, analyst Diante Lee, debuted with an excellent article looking at the Brandon Staley-led Los Angeles Rams defense, and John Johnson IIIâs versatility in this scheme played a huge role in their success. They asked a lot of their safeties, and Johnson delivered in every facet.
The Rams lined up with two deep safeties more than any team and were still a stout unit against the run. Johnson III was one of just two safeties in 2020 with grades above 80.0 in both run defense and coverage, finishing the season with an 85.6 coverage grade and an 83.9 run-defense grade. Cincinnati Bengals’ Jessie Bates III was the other.
The Rams seem determined to keep Johnson around if they can, but after their blockbuster move for Matthew Stafford and the solid play from young safeties Taylor Rapp and Jordan Fuller, perhaps they feel the need to spend elsewhere. If not, Johnson makes a lot of sense here as they push to get over the top in the NFC and make a Super Bowl run.
znModeratorReggie White retired from the NFL on this day in 1999 and hereâs a reminder that his hump move was the most dominant pass rush move ever.
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— Field Yates (@FieldYates) February 15, 2021
znModeratori think he needs at least five highly productive years with the rams before i can say it was a good trade.
He’s 33, and there were qbs in the playoffs who were drafted in years before he was (2009) and were still viable in 2020. They include Rivers (2004), Roethlisberger (2004) Rodgers (2005), Brees (2001), and Brady (2000). If we give him the Rodgers time frame, Aaron is playing next year and shows no signs of decline. By a measure like that, Stafford ought to be good through at least 2025. Even if you use Rivers as the measure and not Rodgers, that still takes Stafford through 2025.
znModeratorFootball plz hurry back đ„ș pic.twitter.com/JwjifypRdK
— Torrey Rodriguez (@RodriguezTorrey) February 14, 2021
znModeratorWith Dante Fowler falling off in 2020 post-Aaron Donald, could teams be wary of breaking the bank for Leonard Floyd? https://t.co/s4xQJKLBqi
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) February 14, 2021
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znModeratorDave Chappelle on the Capitol Hill riots…pic.twitter.com/QC1SCZchwy
— Rex ChapmanđđŒ (@RexChapman) February 14, 2021
znModeratorWho was the longest tenured Rams “high pick or big performance or both” starting qb? In can only do since the 70s cause that’s when I started. I count only years they started.
In chronological order.
Ferragamo: 79-80, 82-63: 4 years, 41 games
Everett: 86-93, 8 years, 105 games
Warner: 99-2003, 4 years, 50 games
Bulger: 2003-2009, 8 years, 95 games
Bradford: 2010-2013, 4 years, 49 games
Goff: 2016-2020, 5 years, 69 gamesStafford: 2021-
znModeratorOnly 2 players have ever recorded 100+ total pressures for a season:
đč 2014 J.J. Watt: 119
đč 2017 Aaron Donald: 106 pic.twitter.com/bOu4u0Ip9U— PFF (@PFF) February 13, 2021
znModeratorThis had to happen. Quick end of an error. https://t.co/O7mReyhBMg
— Andrew Brandt (@AndrewBrandt) February 13, 2021
znModeratorBest secondaries of 2020 per PFF WAR:
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— PFF (@PFF) February 12, 2021
znModeratorIan Rapoport@RapSheet
The #Texans are releasing star JJ Watt, source said.==
The Rams would (obviously) be a good fit for J.J. Watt, and he would help their pass rush. But there are a lot of hurdles, namely that pesky salary cap https://t.co/Dl6Tybe7Xc
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) February 12, 2021
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znModeratorGregg Bell@gbellseattle
Russell Wilson’s far too calculated to have not talked to Pete Carroll, John Schneider about this. He says he has.The “frustrated” QB isn’t going rogue. He isn’t getting–or wanting to get–traded. He wants better #Seahawks pass pro
Tony Softli@SoftliSEA
I believe he spoke with them about what the Offensive future should look like from the QB POV, but going national media blast on teammates and organization was not part of that conversation. Totally out of character! Possible trouble right here in the emerald city.
znModeratorFive Key Takeaways From the Matthew Stafford-Jared Goff Trade
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-five-key-takeaways-from-the-matthew-stafford-jared-goff-trade
The interwebs are already full of misguided takes on what the Los Angeles Rams gave up for Matthew Stafford in the blockbuster trade announced Saturday night. The trade was a pivotal move for both franchises, and the risks and rewards extend beyond the particulars of the deal. There are a handful of key points to understand when analyzing the trade and its ramifications over the next few years.
THE TRADE COMPENSATION WASNâT THE HAUL SOME THINK
A superficial accounting lists two first-round picks, a third-round pick and Jared Goff as the compensation for Stafford. But those first rounders are future picks, and the trade market has traditionally discounted future picks significantly.
We can get an estimate of the current trade value for future first-round picks by analyzing the last three trades with future first rounders added onto easily valued current picks.
Player Pick JJ Value Traded Picks JJ Value Future 1st JJ Value
Mahomes 10 1,300 27, 91 816 484
Watson 12 1,200 25 720 480
Davenport 14 1,100 27, 147 713 387
Average: 450Using values from the Jimmy Johnson trade chart, the implied values for future first-round picks in the above transactions can be found by calculating the difference between the value of current picks received and traded away. Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson were acquired in the 2017 draft at pick No. 10 and No. 12, respectively, and each included a future first as part of the trade compensation. It was the same situation when the New Orleans Saints traded up for Marcus Davenport in 2018.
The implied values of the future first-round picks in these deals ranged from roughly the 42nd (480 JJ value) to the 50th pick (387 JJ value), or solidly in the middle of the second round. If you consider that draft-day trades are probably more likely to overpay than in an offseason deal like this, you can move the value up a bit higher to the front of the second round.
Noting their market values, the future first-round picks the Rams traded away should be viewed the same way as trade packages including current picks. Itâs likely that teams undervalued future picks, but that doesnât change the market dynamics that should dictate acquisition costs. If you add up the implied values of the future first-round picks and the current third-round pick the Rams traded away, the total value is in line with a 2021 first round pick in the 15-20 range.
There are reasons to think that the teams might value future picks more due to difficultly evaluating this offseason, or that the Lions specifically should value future, multiple picks more with a likely path of rebuilding ahead. Adding these considerations, the market value of the pick package could be viewed higher, but probably not as high as a single top-10 pick.
If youâre basing potential Deshaun Watson trades building on this deal as two first rounders, then youâre not capturing the discount on future picks and where theyâll likely be in the first round.
THE LIONS ARE DOING THE SMART THING AND EMBRACING VARIANCE
While the market value of the Ramsâ future picks might be lower than some think, the real value is probably higher. The Lions have given themselves the opportunity to benefit greatly from things going against expectations.
The baseline assumptions built into the trade are that the Rams will be a playoff team, picking near the end of the first round and that Jared Goff isnât valuable with his current contract. Itâs possible for these assumptions to get slightly worse for the Lions, but the downside is limited. If the Rams win the Super Bowl both years and the Lions are drafting at 32 instead of an assumed 25, it hurts a little. If Goff struggles and needs to be cut, the Lions will have dead cap charges â not the worst thing in a rebuild.
The downside risk for the Lions is limited, but the upside is huge. The Lions are now short the success of the Rams, and I explain below why that might not be the worst position to have. If the Rams struggle the next two seasons, the Lions could have multiple top-15 picks, or perhaps one top-10 if things really go badly. The jump in value going from an assumed draft position of 25 to the top-10 is enormous â much greater than the downside of falling to 32. If the former No. 1 pick Goff can turn things around and play like he did in 2017-2018, the Lions could have a real franchise quarterback or a valuable trade asset in a year or two.
The Lions probably arenât competing for the next couple of years, so acquiring assets with limited downside and disproportionate upside is the perfect play to raise their ceiling going forward.
STAFFORD WONâT NECESSARILY MAKE THE RAMS BETTER
I hate to step into #QBWinz territory here, but this might be how Stafford is judged a season or two post-trade. The Rams have been one of the most successful franchises in the NFL the last four seasons, whether you think thatâs because or in spite of Jared Goff. The Rams ended the last four years with one trip to the Super Bowl, two other playoff appearances and a 9-7 record that would have been good enough to make the playoffs under the format the NFL adopted last season.
What carried the Rams in 2020 wasnât Goff, who ranked 19th in PFF passing grade (71.9), but a defense that had the best grade in the NFL (85.9). We know that defensive stability is lower than offensive, and the Rams lost Brandon Staley, their wiz kid coordinator who became the head coach of the crosstown Los Angeles Chargers. The Rams were relatively lucky with injuries before the playoffs, with Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Donald and many other key contributors playing full or nearly full seasons.
If the Rams defense falters with bad injury luck, difficulty adjusting to a new coordinator or lose key free agents like John Johnson, Leonard Floyd and Troy Hill, the team could miss the playoffs, even if Stafford is playing at a higher level than what weâve seen from Goff.
Our grading didnât see a huge difference between the performance of Stafford and Goff since 2017 (excluding Goffâs disastrous rookie season), with Stafford posting a PFF passing grade of 84.7 and Goff at 81.6. Though Goffâs numbers had been on a steady decline in the most recent seasons, Stafford had one of his best years ever in a shortened 2019.
THE RAMS HAVE GONE ALL-IN MORE THAN ANY TEAM IN THE NFL
The Rams have been in win-now mode for years, and this deal pulls even more future assets into the present. With this trade, the Rams wonât, as of now, have made or hold any of their first-round picks over a seven-year window from 2017-2023.
The total list of picks traded for Jared Goff (the No. 1 pick), Jalen Ramsey and now Matthew Stafford is something to behold:
Six first-round picks
Two second-round picks
Three third-round picksAll of the traded picks mean fewer opportunities to fill the roster with cheaper rookie contracts, some of the best values in the NFL. As of now, the Ramsâ the top-10 cap charges in 2021 add up to more than $140 million, which would equal more than 75% of a hypothetical $180 million COVID-affected salary cap.
Without the breadth of talent that comes from cheaper rookie contracts and cap space for mid-range free agents, the Rams will have one of the most fragile rosters in the NFL. If the Ramsâ top players, like Stafford, Donald, Ramsey, Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods, can stay healthy, theyâll be a top competitor in 2021. But any injuries or unexpected dips in performance could sink the Rams’ precarious roster.
Looking forward, the loss of picks in 2022 and 2023 compounds the teamâs difficulty in building back a talent pipeline, which not only provides cheap current deals but also leads to extensions that come much cheaper than paying for talent in free agency or via trades.
THE LIONS ARE IN ON JARED GOFF AS THEIR FRANCHISE QUARTERBACK, FOR NOW
The trade value discussion above showed that the pure package of picks for Stafford, excluding Goff, wasnât necessarily a lot more than what the Lions could have gotten from other teams. Reportedly, there were multiple suitors for Stafford willing to give up at least a first-round pick, which would put these other trades in the ballpark of the compensation the Lions received from the Rams.
The powers of deduction can only lead us to assume that the addition of Goff to the deal was viewed by the Lions as, at worst, of slightly negative value. The Lions likely donât see Goffâs contract, which will pay him $27.2 million per season over the next two years, as a significant deadweight.
Goffâs contract has guarantees of $27.5 million in 2021 and another $15.5 million in 2022, meaning heâs not a player you acquire with the intention of then cutting with minimal cost. Brad Holmes, the Lionsâ new general manager, is familiar with Goff from his time working in the Ramsâ front office, and he could very well view Goff through a more positive prism than football pundits who thought he could only be moved if the Rams gave away additional compensation.
Sure, the Lions could draft a quarterback with the No. 7 pick, making Goff a placeholder, but making this deal means that doesnât have to happen, at least this offseason.
What this also means is that the tank, at least the intentional tank, is probably off in Detroit. Thereâs little chance Goff isnât on the roster this coming season, and while he isnât an elite quarterback, he brings more winning potential than other quarterbacks on the 2021 roster, like Chase Daniel, or one that the Lions could acquire in the draft with the No. 7 pick.
New head coach Dan Campbell has assembled a well-credentialed staff, and whatever we think of the bizarre moments in his introductory press conference, the attitude and actions for the Lions point toward a team looking to win in 2021, even if legitimately competing is far fetched.
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znModeratorCameron DaSilva@camdasilva
“Saw Aaron Donald today, who is probably the greatest player in the world. So that was awesome to see.âJoe DeCamillis [Rams new STs coach] was clearly excited to run into AD today lol
Stu Jackson@StuJRams
New Rams special teams coordinator Joe DeCamillis said he’s already spoken to P Johnny Hekker, LS Jake McQuaide and K Matt Gay.Stu Jackson@StuJRams
Part of Joe DeCamillis’ answer on special teams philosophy/foundational principles:“We’ve got to get a great returner. We’ve got to get a guy that can ring the bell and drop the ball over the goal line.
For those jumping to conclusions about what that means for last year’s PR/KR Nsimba Webster, DeCamillis later said they’re still evaluating the return game, adding that an effective return game starts with great blocking.
Sarina@sarina
Raheem Morris and his thoughts on the team and defense as a whole: “This is a fundamentally developed team. They did a great job of developing these guys fundamentally. Some they went out and bought like a Jalen Ramsey. He’s a fundamentally sound absolute yes dog competitor.”Raheem Morris on the coaching staff: “It’s no secret that the Rams coaching staff has just been rated the way it has been because of the things they’ve been able to do here and it starts with our leadership.”
Raheem Morris on Aaron Donald (1/2): “Aaron Donald is so much fun to watch. He’s just a disrupter. He’s a finisher. He’s the guy that just gets things going and leads by example. You can just see it in the field. Nothing he does on the field is shocking.”
“I’m amazed at some of the things he’s able to do. You want to get him aligned up & find ways to get him 1 on 1. He’s done such a great job getting his teammates 1 on 1 to set up the guys around him that you don’t want to take away that part of his strength either.”
Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
while one could say â3-4 baseâ in application to Morrisâ defense, because they will be multiple and in subpackages at a higher percentage, it would not be accurate to confine them into a âbaseâ per seLindsey Thiry@LindseyThiry
New Rams DC Raheem Morris says their defensive coaching vacancies have been filled, and indicates internal promotions, but declines to give names until the team officially announces.Am told team is still working through terms agreements on this point –
Stu Jackson@StuJRams
I asked Raheem Morris about his plans for Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey.âDonât mess them up. Letâs let those guys get going.â
Morris pointed out Ramsey and Donaldâs versatility, and wanting to continue to capitalize on that.
znModeratorList of #49ers coaches who departed this offseason:
Robert Saleh (HC Jets)
Mike LaFleur (OC Jets)
John Benton (OL Jets)
Aaron Whitecotton (DL Jets)
Tony Oden (CBs Jets)
Mike Rutenberg (LBs Jets)
Shane Day (QB/Pass game Chargers)
Michael Clay (ST Eagles)
Katie Sowers
Stan Kwan— Nick Wagoner (@nwagoner) February 11, 2021
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