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znModerator“I use that word — “express themselves” — because I mean it. It’s a partnership. That’s why I love the NFL. You have to make sure that that guy has a big voice in how you do things, because he can help you. He can see a lot of things that are happening out there that can really help you. You can say, “Hey, we can do this one of two ways.” And then he makes the way that he wants work…”
——I have always thought this is the best approach, with star/talented players.
It requires some wisdom from the coach to pull it off, though.If Paulo Freire was a football coach, this is the approach he would use.
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vI think that will happen with Stafford and McVay.
znModeratorNFL awards $4 million to fund research into hamstring injuries. https://t.co/yDrQj4rcZT
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) July 15, 2021
znModeratorRichard Sherman's wife's 911 call was disturbing, not only because it describes Sherman going through a crisis, but also because of the unprofessional response from the 911 dispatcher. https://t.co/m8zUEBWZWL
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) July 14, 2021
znModeratorThis loss still hurts. Thank you, @nflnetwork for allowing us to re-live the pain. @jalenramsey may be the only Ram ever who could’ve stopped Steve Smith in this game. pic.twitter.com/QSHzbsFMWb
— Rams Brothers (@RamsBrothers) July 15, 2021
znModeratorJason fuckinf Sehorn!
A lot of times you see coaches sign a washed up vet they’re enamored with because they remember how good they were and have a coach crush on them. It’s like they think they did this inspired thing when they’re just looking for an easy fix they think will work.
Sehorn from that season is my poster boy for that.
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znModeratorI’m just gonna shut up and read your response, and other leftists here. May comment afterward, but I hope my better angels prevail and I just read, etc.
I thought it was a good response and I enjoyed reading it.
Round here, there is no china shop.
Here, we’re all kangeroos in a trampoline shop.
I sincerely doubt Z would take offense (not to speak for him, that’s just my impression).
We don’t have testy egos here. Just sometimes people here don’t think to respond.
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znModeratorPer ESPN, Richard Sherman allegedly tried to force his way into a home, allegedly fought with police when they arrived on the scene. https://t.co/kqlCaXUC1a
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) July 14, 2021
znModeratorThe Rams new uniforms (which they will sport 3 times this season) are a fantastic addition! Paying homage to some of the great Rams teams of the yesteryear, helping to bridge the gap of generations. From the 70s, 80s, & 90s, the fans & players will undoubtedly feel the nostalgia! pic.twitter.com/KjFqwopBdh
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) July 14, 2021
znModeratorVery weird that I have to keep pointing out to all of these "PROUD CUBANS" from Miami, FL with 0-3 followers each that the pictures they keep sharing of these massive protests are from countries other than Cuba and the flags are VISIBLY not Cuban 🤦🏽♀️
— ☆ ʲ ᵘ ˡ ᵉ ˢ ☆ (@mrs_socialista) July 14, 2021
znModeratorIsaac Bruce: Torry Holt and I are the best wide receiver duo ever, we won a Super Bowl unlike Randy Moss and Cris Carter. https://t.co/VMAhFK5oLp
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) July 14, 2021
znModeratorJalen Ramsey says he loves playing corner right now, but he would have “no problems moving to safety.” https://t.co/lFRmsjMMYH
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) July 14, 2021
znModeratorThis makes so much sense when you look at Ramsey’s game/football IQ. He compared to Woodson as a prospect at FSU coming out. Moving to FS/SS after playing CB/Nickel should be an easy transition. The move would keep him engaged and around the action as an older player. Love it❤️🏈 https://t.co/1bnxTMa8ti
— Bucky Brooks (@BuckyBrooks) July 14, 2021
znModeratorNew evidence in Rams lawsuit makes Kevin Demoff even more of a villain in St. Louis
https://sports.yahoo.com/evidence-rams-lawsuit-makes-kevin-134043827.html
Rams COO Kevin Demoff had a job to do, and he did it well. He did it too well. And he seemed to take perverse glee in it.
It’s one thing for Demoff to take marching orders from his billionaire boss, Stan Kroenke, regarding talking points and/or flat-out lies regarding Kroenke’s attachment to St. Louis. It’s quite another for Demoff to seem to enjoy the hardship he inflicted on the city the Rams abandoned.
Consider these nuggets that emerged in court on Monday, via Ben Fredrickson of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. First, when Rams staff penned a supposedly heartfelt goodbye to the city that lured it from L.A. in 1995, Demoff referred to it as the AMF letter. As in, “Adios, motherf–kers.”
Also, Demoff reportedly had a habit of forwarding emails to the league office about the crime rate and credit rating of St. Louis.
Some have suggested that Demoff could succeed Roger Goodell as the NFL Commissioner. That seemed like a stretch, frankly. It will now be even more of one.
New evidence in Rams lawsuit makes Kevin Demoff even more of a villain in St. Louis
znModeratorDeacon Jones led NFL in sacks a record five times
Officially, the NFL says no player has ever led the league in quarterback sacks more than once. But we now know that Hall of Fame defensive end Deacon Jones led the NFL in sacks five times.
Thanks to pre-1982 sack totals being published by Pro Football Reference, we now know who had the most sacks in the NFL (and AFL) in every season since 1960.
Jones, incredibly, led the NFL in sacks in 1964, 1965, 1967, 1968 and 1969. (He finished third in the NFL in sacks in 1966.) No player has ever had that kind of sustained run as the NFL’s best pass rusher.
Twelve players have led the league in sacks twice: Ed Husmann, Jim Katcavage, Al Baker, Larry Eisenhauer, Jack Youngblood, Mark Gastineau, Reggie White, Kevin Greene, Michael Strahan, DeMarcus Ware, Jared Allen and J.J. Watt. But only Jones has done it more than twice.
znModeratorThe 1999 Rams defense was a CHAMPIONSHIP group. They don’t get the credit they deserve. In 19 games (incl playoffs) they held teams at 16 points or less on 13 occasions. Keep in mind our high powered offense was scoring at will, giving opposing offenses many opportunities! pic.twitter.com/81XzELZUsB
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) July 13, 2021
znModeratorThey cheered on the most deadly and destructive riots in decades.
What is THIS? Is this a reference to BLM demonstrations? BLM demonstrations were generally peaceful (and I mean a huge majority) and if there was violence in those it was mostly from demonstrators being attacked by the cops. MILLIONS of people marched in those demonstrations in hundreds of places all over the country.The demonstrations that broke down into crowd violence were a small percentage.
If he means BLM and if he honestly believes it was mostly violent then he is falling for a bad tv news trope.
znModerator"Stafford passed to running backs on about 20-22 percent of snaps last season, so McVay could incorporate more of that this fall."
Rams targeted RBs only 12.6% of time (71/563) last year… could be good for Akers, bad for? Maybe no one if passing efficiency goes up as expected https://t.co/QLb9Br0ixF
— Sigmund Bloom (@SigmundBloom) July 13, 2021
znModeratorHe’s always been talented, but Stafford is now being vaulted into the conversation as a top-10 quarterback. Mark Schofield of Touchdown Wire sees him as just that, ranking him No. 9 on his list of the best quarterbacks in football.
There is a case to be made that all of the throws and plays that Patrick Mahomes makes on a weekly basis were things that Matthew Stafford was doing during his time with the Detroit Lions. On a traits basis, Stafford remains one of the most talented passers in the league. His ability to make any throw to any level of the field, as well as how he can drop the arm slot to adjust to pressure in his face and/or off the edge, is an elite trait that keeps him atop lists like this one.
Schofield argues that in McVay’s system that’s filled with play action and misdirection, it “could lead to some of the best football of Stafford’s career.”
znModeratorSean McVay has proved to be one of the smartest and most innovative offensive coaches in the league, completely turning around a Rams team that hadn’t finished top 10 in scoring since 2006 before he arrived in 2017. While he’s not a perfect play caller, his track record as a play designer is quite impressive.
49ers defensive back Jimmie Ward just has one question: Why does McVay always target him in coverage?
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He believes McVay will continue to call plays to test him in coverage, which he’s fine with because that could lead to a raise.
“I know (McVay) is going to try to at me this year,” Ward said. “I’ve been talking a lot of (expletive). I’m pretty sure it’s going to get to him, so we’ll see. I’ll get more balls thrown to me, so I’ll get more action, and if I can back up what I’m talking about now and this whole offseason, hopefully I’ll get paid more money.”
July 12, 2021 at 11:26 pm in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #130866
znModeratorThe cost to be a decent person is 0.00. pic.twitter.com/aXHR5BzBHp
— Danny Deraney (@DannyDeraney) July 12, 2021
znModeratorjust because (has audio). pic.twitter.com/bj0fakma9w
— roberto clemente (@rclemente2121) July 12, 2021
znModeratorNFL suffers setback in Rams relocation litigation
* https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/12/nfl-suffers-setback-in-rams-relocation-litigation/
The massive lawsuit filed by St. Louis against the NFL over the relocation of the Rams will (barring a settlement) culminate with a full-blown trial, which is due to begin just as the Rams prepare to host a Super Bowl in their new stadium. Along the way, the two sides will engage in many battles. Today, St. Louis scored a major victory in one of them.
Via Randy Karraker of 101 ESPN, a judge has ruled that the plaintiffs in the litigation shall have access to information regarding the financial worth of Commissioner Roger Goodell and five NFL owners: Rams owner Stan Kroenke, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Giants owner John Mara, and former Panthers owner Jerry Richardson.
The outcome has significance in large part because really rich people never want to be forced to disclose details about what they have. For a judge to tell six of the wealthiest men in America that they must turn over that information represents the kind of slap in the face that folks holding that kind of power and money rarely if ever experience.
The reason for the conclusion has significance as well. The judge, who made the ruling from the bench (which means the evidence pointing to it was clear), concluded that clear and convincing proof exists to support a finding that those individuals operated in a fraudulent manner. As to the rest of the owners, St. Louis has 10 days to present evidence supporting that they should be forced to surrender their financial information as well.
The financial information has relevance as to the question of punitive damages. If a jury ultimately decides that the NFL and one or more owners operated in a way that justifies an award over and above the money actually lost by the St. Louis plaintiffs because of the move, the financial worth of the defendant becomes critical to determining proper punishment. The more money someone has, the greater the award needed to punish those individuals for engaging in bad behavior and deterring others in the future from conducting themselves in a similar manner.
So, in other words, the judge is satisfied that enough evidence exists as to the individuals listed above for a reasonable jury to conclude that an award of punitive damages should be entered against them. That conclusion alone suggests that plenty of evidence exists to support that someone from the NFL and/or one of its teams said or did something that he shouldn’t have said or done in connection with the relocation of the Rams.
Part of the evidence includes a phone call from 2013 between Kroenke, Goodell, Mara, and Steelers owner Art Rooney (it’s unclear based on Karraker’s tweets whether Rooney is required to surrender his financial information at this point). During the conversation, Kroenke said, “I’m going to buy two parcels of land and build a stadium in L.A.,” and that he’s trying very hard to stay under the radar screen and keep it hidden. Goodell said, “We will respect your confidentiality.”
Rams COO Kevin Demoff later gave Goodell talking points regarding the land purchase for his pre-Super Bowl press conference in 2014. Here’s part of what he said, at a time when Goodell already knew that Kroenke intended to build a stadium on the land he had purchased:“Stan is a very successful developer. He has billions of dollars of projects that are going on around the country in real estate development. So I think instead of overreacting, we should make sure we do what’s necessary to continue to support the team locally as the fans have done in St. Louis. And make sure we do whatever we can to make sure that team is successful in the St. Louis market. . . . There are no plans to my knowledge of a stadium development.” (Emphasis added.)
Also, Jones admitted during his deposition in the case that he urged Kroenke to move the Rams. One day after the vote approving the move happened, the Rams signed a contract with Legends Hospitality (partially owned by Jones) to sell PSLs and luxury suites.
znModeratorProFootballTalk@ProFootballTalk
One key highlight from Karraker’s tweets. At a time when Roger Goodell knew that Stan Kroenke intended to move the Rams from St. Louis to a stadium he’d build in L.A., Goodell said at a press conference, “There are no plans to my knowledge of a stadium development.”
znModeratorPre-1982 sack totals have been updated and Rams Hall of Famers Deacon Jones, Jack Youngblood are two of the greatest beneficiaries.
Deacon Jones had three seasons of 21.5-plus sacks and is unofficially 3rd all-time in career sacks. https://t.co/zgYwiBLkFf
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) July 12, 2021
znModeratorPre-1982 sack totals have been updated and Rams Hall of Famers Deacon Jones, Jack Youngblood are two of the greatest beneficiaries.
The Rams had a Hall of Fame pass rusher in every season from 1961 to 1992 https://t.co/oqqV86qfM4
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) July 12, 2021
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With these updates, Deacon Jones is now third all-time in sacks behind Bruce Smith and Reggie White, while Jack Youngblood is sixth, behind Kevin Greene (who joined the Rams the year after Youngblood left) and Julius Peppers. That means that between 1961 and 1992, the Rams employed at least one legendary Hall of Fame pass rusher, switching between Jones, Youngblood, and then Greene. All three would now be in the top-six all-time in sacks.
znModeratorBrandon Staley on Jalen Ramsey, from https://theathletic.com/2700823/2021/07/12/brandon-staley-qa-chargers-coach-on-developing-player-relationships-justin-herbert-otas-install-and-more/
I use that word — “express themselves” — because I mean it. It’s a partnership. That’s why I love the NFL. You have to make sure that that guy has a big voice in how you do things, because he can help you. He can see a lot of things that are happening out there that can really help you. You can say, “Hey, we can do this one of two ways.” And then he makes the way that he wants work. We’re always going to be wired that way. “We’ve got two really good solutions. What are you more comfortable with?”
I just think that’s the best way to do business. And then you’re always current during the week, and then when you get to the signal caller meetings that he and I had all the time, they were like quarterback meetings where he’s ranking the third downs. “Hey, these are the coverages I like the best. This is where I want to be in the red area.” So he’s fully aware of why we’re doing everything and there’s no surprises for him on game day. I think that collaboration is ultimately why we had the year that we had. He had a huge impact on me.
znModeratorfrom https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/11/rams-rookie-max-roberts-workout-video-footwork/
Max Roberts
There’s a lot still to be decided at outside linebacker for the Los Angeles Rams behind starter Leonard Floyd. Terrell Lewis should make the team, as should Justin Hollins. But Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Chris Garrett, Justin Lawler, Max Roberts and John Daka will be fighting for some of the final roster spots come September.
Roberts is training hard ahead of training camp and recently shared a video on Twitter of his impressive footwork. He went through several drills showcasing his quickness, looking explosive coming out of his breaks.
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Last but not least of our Eagle hopefuls is Maximilian Roberts. Roberts began his college career at Fordham before moving on to Maine. This past season, he of course came over to Boston College to begin his Masters and push for the opportunity to play at the next level.
Some may remember his electric debut against Texas State. Announced he would be joining BC only about an hour before the game, Roberts brought an immediate spark to the game, tallying a sack and a half and adding five tackles. His energy was infections and jumped off the screen. The defensive end would go on to lead the team in sacks (4.5) and tackle for loss yards in only eight games. An Ohio native, two of his three years at Fordham were spent at linebacker. At Maine, Roberts tallied 19 tackles, four sacks, and a pair of forced fumbles.
Throughout his career, he’s undergone three knee surgeries, but has had no problems since his arrival at BC. He was also invited to the Hula Bowl, a post-season college football all star game.
What does he bring to an NFL team?
Roberts sees himself as an outside linebacker/Edge. He has the ability to rush the passer and even drop into cover. At 6’2, 254-pounds Roberts brings plenty of athleticism. He had some of the best numbers at BC’s post day, posting 10’3 broad jump, 36.5 in vertical jump, and solid speed as well. He also has a great passion for the game and plays with a fire.
To start, he can contribute immediately on special teams, and rotate in as a pass rusher. Per PFF, of P5 rushers in this draft Roberts has the second highest pass-rush win rate.
Where will he get drafted?
Roberts is likely to be a late round pick or at worst a priority free agent.
Where could he go?
Maximilian has met with a number of teams including the Jets, Raiders, and Chargers. After the aforementioned Hula Bowl, he alos met with the 49ers, Giants, Titans, and Seahawks. That’s a mix of teams that run both 3-4/4-3 defenses, so each team could view him differently.
znModeratorThe Rams are making a high-stakes bet along the offensive line this year, in more ways than one position switch. Plus, a “prediction” about your backup alignment. Preview series continues this week: https://t.co/fT1OniSkPP
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) July 12, 2021
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Rams position preview: OL betting on position switch at center and big year from Andrew Whitworth
Jourdan Rodrigue
The Los Angeles Rams’ rookies and quarterbacks report to training camp on July 25, and the veteran players arrive shortly afterward. In the weeks leading up to the return of football — and a “normal” preseason, we’re taking a position-by-position look at the team, so we can tide you over with football tidbits until we get there. Previously, we talked about quarterbacks. Today, we’re talking about the Rams’ offensive line.
If the Rams’ offseason bet on quarterback Matthew Stafford gets all the flash and headlines, the one they made on their offensive line entering 2021 might quietly be just as important. With one position change — moving former right guard Austin Corbett to center — they have created two questions, in Corbett and in Bobby Evans, who is slated to take over Corbett’s old spot.
They also have a new offensive line coach in Kevin Carberry, who previously held the same role at Stanford. Head coach Sean McVay has been blending more power concepts with his trademark outside zone scheme for the past couple of years, and in part that has meant shifting the physical prototype of his interior offensive linemen to be a little more stout, and have a little bit more downhill strength, as opposed to the lighter-framed and perhaps quicker guys previously in the position. Between that — seeing his role lose its long-term sustainability — and a low offer from the Rams last spring, former starter Austin Blythe actually took an even lower offer from Kansas City in free agency, setting up the position shift before a training camp competition could have potentially happened.
The Rams clearly had decided to go all-in on their offensive line bet with Corbett in the early spring because despite a lauded 2021 draft class of interior offensive linemen, they didn’t draft one. While Corbett, who was a really solid right guard, could be the answer at center despite never playing a snap at the position in a Rams jersey, the simple fact is that we just don’t know whether this move will work or not — and without a draft pick developing in-house, there’s not a huge range of viable options as a contingency plan.
Additions: (wind whistles through the trees)
In all seriousness, the Rams did add a couple of undrafted free agents, tackle Alaric Jackson and guard/center Jordan Meredith, as well as International Pathways Program player Max Pircher, who is learning the tackle position. These players aren’t likely to make an impact in their rookie season, however, since they’re in need of some development.
Subtractions: Austin Blythe (center)
Projected starters (not reflective of a 53-man cutdown): Andrew Whitworth (LT), David Edwards (LG), Austin Corbett (C), Bobby Evans (RG), Rob Havenstein (RT)
One neat detail, and probably a pretty important one, was that all of the offensive linemen — yes, even the grizzled veterans — were present through the voluntary portions of the spring workouts. This was a good head start that the Rams didn’t have last season (granted, they weren’t featuring new names at two positions) because they will need to build as much continuity as possible and develop an innate sense for how Stafford operates and communicates behind them.
Projected backups (in order, and not reflective of a 53-man cutdown): Joe Noteboom (LT), Chandler Brewer (LG), Brian Allen (C)/Coleman Shelton (C), Jamil Demby (RG)/Allen (RG), Tremayne Anchrum (RT)
I’m not a total downer — I do think that the Rams’ starting offensive line, on paper, has a ton of potential. But the big concern is a lack of trusted depth at a couple of positions, and particularly at center — where Allen spent the entirety of last season rehabilitating a serious leg injury (plus is more in the mold of the centers McVay and the Rams previously slated for the role, versus their new schematic direction), and Shelton has no meaningful experience.
When I advocated for the Rams to draft a center, that player certainly was unlikely to start in his first season (it’s a hard job!) — but could have been good depth, and an heir to the position should the Corbett experiment not work out.
2021 outlook: If this offensive line can stay healthy, there is a lot of upside here because of the general continuity between players (outside of the position change). But it all predicates on the invaluable reps Corbett gets with Stafford in training camp, when the Rams are actually practicing against guys in pads (and Aaron Donald arrives on the scene). The spotlight won’t just be on them in pass protection, either — the Rams’ offensive line was consistently solid in its run-blocking last season, and will welcome back second-year running back Cam Akers into the lead role.
Long-term outlook: Whitworth will turn 40 during the 2021 season, which is simply … remarkable. Even after the knee injury that sidelined him for eight games last season, there’s no reason to think that Whitworth’s excellent play will slip. But it bears repeating that he has an “out” in his contract after this season and has recently remarked on former Rams defensive end Chris Long’s “Green Light” podcast that this season could be his last (the caveat being that he’s felt that way for the past seven years or so, but kept playing).
“I was like, if I get through this, I want to try to play until 40,” Whitworth said while discussing a 2013 knee injury with Long. “And that was just like — I didn’t think that was realistic or that it’d ever happen. But I was like, I want to try to do that.
“So this year, to me, it feels like this is it. This is like, I’ve put everything into trying to play this season and play at the level I want to. I feel like this will probably be the end, but I mean, all my closest friends would tell you that I’ve said that for about seven straight years. So I don’t know how believable that is, but it feels like it is.”
The Rams could entrust Noteboom with taking over once the AW era begins (“After Whitworth”), but they face a bit of a complication there, too — he’s in the last year of his contract. If he’s slated for that role in the future, he and his agent have all of the leverage — and good left tackles are hard to draft with no first-round picks, or to find in free agency, as the Rams have known very well since the year they, well, signed Whitworth.
July 12, 2021 at 8:35 am in reply to: Nurses fired for not getting COVID-19 vaccine explain their rationale #130849
znModeratorDr. Anthony Fauci said he was horrified to see attendees at CPAC cheering that the U.S. hadn’t reached its vaccination goals. "I mean, they are cheering about someone saying that it’s a good thing for people not to try and save their lives.” https://t.co/JibEQhhQuJ
— Jon Cooper 🇺🇸 (@joncoopertweets) July 12, 2021
znModeratorTwitter tells CNN it has removed more than 1,000 Tweets and “permanently suspended a number of accounts” following the online abuse racist abuse directed at some England players following Sunday’s Euro 2020 final defeat.
— Ana Cabrera (@AnaCabrera) July 12, 2021
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