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znModeratorThey start talking about Donald starting at about 2:43.
But the whole thing is worth listening to. He’s says a lot of good things about Stafford and the Rams.
znModeratorfrom NFL Power Rankings: Rams Are for Real: https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/09/28/nfl-power-rankings-week-4
1: Los Angeles Rams (3-0)
Last week: Win vs. Tampa Bay, 34–24
Next week: vs. ArizonaFirst, a confession: I liked the Rams a lot heading into the season. I liked the addition of Matthew Stafford. I liked the health of Cooper Kupp. I liked the daring of general manager Les Snead, who went out and added elite corner Jalen Ramsey in 2019, allowing whoever coordinated the defense to pair Ramsey with Aaron Donald—putting two top-five, defensive talents in the entire league on the same unit. It’s working. These Rams are better than “like” worthy. They look deep. They look scary—on both offense and defense. I’m starting to agree with my colleague Jenny Vrentas, who tabbed the Rams to win the Super Bowl. After their decimating of Tom Brady and the Bucs, the choice to put L.A. first here is an easy one, maybe the easiest one of all 32 rankings. Big game next week, though.
znModeratorfrom https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/09/29/nfl-mailbag-chiefs-worries-panthers-steelers-patriots
From K1SZN2021 (@KSzn2021): Do you see the Cardinals somehow beating the Rams in week 4 to stay undefeated?
If it were in Arizona, I’d think hard about it. But the Rams are playing too well, and that game is at SoFi Stadium. So I’m gonna stick with Matthew Stafford & Co.
znModerator#1 in the league 🏆🏆🏆🐏🏠@CooperKupp pic.twitter.com/Hm3D9Tm5su
— RamseyHouse 🥷🏾 (@RamsHowse) October 2, 2021
znModeratorFootball brings people together 💙@jalenramsey gives an inspiring fan who is battling cancer an awesome surprise 💪 #CrucialCatch pic.twitter.com/IuOpx5OcsL
— Los Angeles Rams (@RamsNFL) October 1, 2021
znModeratorIt’s going to be hard to top this for hit of the year pic.twitter.com/afAV6yhOIm
— 𝕋𝕠𝕞 – 𝕃𝔸 ℝ𝕒𝕞𝕤 (@TL_LARams) October 2, 2021
znModeratorCornell@gqscholar
Imo Rapp is the biggest reason why Morris will have a hard time continuing to duplicate Staley succes in the offense. JJ > Rapp. Fuller isn’t playing at the same level as last yr either.SeattleRams@seattlerams_nfl
The Rams were watching Kupp since 2015, when he was an underclassman All-American receiver and record-setter at FCS school Eastern WashingtonBlaine Grisak@bgrisakDTR
A win tomorrow could distance the Rams from the Cardinals. Next four games:Rams – SEA, NYG, DET, HOU
Cardinals – SF, CLE, HOU, GBJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigue
The Rams waived safety JR Reed and elevated OLB Obo Okoronkwo from the 21-day window to the active roster, per team.TurfShowTimes@TurfShowTimes
I hope Brian Allen continues on the trend of good play because man it’s been fun to watch.
znModeratorNot tall enough✅
Arms not long enough✅
What now? Adapt like everyone else does regardless of what the rules and stats say. Arm lengths don’t block people pic.twitter.com/C1zgpwg5JG— Taylor Boggs (@Tboggs50) October 1, 2021
znModeratorArizona Cardinals at Los Angeles Rams – 4:05 p.m. Sunday
The Rams won the biggest games of the year to date, beating the defending Super Bowl champion Buccaneers, 34-24. Matthew Stafford outdueled Tom Brady, throwing for 343 yards and four touchdowns. Los Angeles led by multiple scores for much of the second half, and its defense registered six tackles for loss, including Aaron Donald’s first-ever sack of Brady. The Rams made their statement in the NFC; now they’ll look to do the same in their division against the Cardinals. Los Angeles opened as 5.5-point favorites.
Arizona continues to quiet offseason skeptics during a 3-0 start. The Cardinals beat the Jaguars 31-19, scoring 21 unanswered points to avoid the upset. James Conner ran for a pair of touchdowns while Kyler Murray added a third, and Byron Murphy returned an interception for a score, one of four takeaways by the Arizona defense. To get to 4-0, the Cardinals will need to snap an eight-game skid against the Rams.
znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothers
Three starting offensive lineman for the Cardinals are game-time decisions:
• LG Justin Pugh – practiced fully yesterday
• RG Justin Murray- limited
• RT Kelvin Beachum – DNPTheir starting 5 has been excellent. But having even just 2 of 5 starters out vs. the Rams is shaky.
If Sean Harlow has to come in for Justin Pugh at any time — it’s not going to be good. Wouldn’t be fun to go against AD & co. in your second game ever.
Max Garcia (JM’s back-up) may see some time as well. Could be a reason why the lines moving in favor of the Rams again (-4.5)
These divisional games are primarily won in the trenches. The Cardinals would have a much better shot of beating the Rams in December IF their starting 5 can get fully healthy by then.
Emphasis on the importance of winning in the trenches/at the LOS. Advantage, Rams on paper
znModeratorThe Thursday Night Football win over Arizona in 2012. If you followed the Rams at the time, you remember how this game felt. It was a good night to be a fan! The defense was on an absolute tear in this game as they tallied 9 sacks on Kevin Kolb #MobSquad pic.twitter.com/UbMe6IO3TQ
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) October 2, 2021
znModeratorRunning game is an issue.
Defense? I am with you guys…they need to cohere better.
Those are my 2 “first world problems” of the day.
(That joke was not meant to dismiss the run game/defense issues. I worry about those things too. It’s just that at the moment I had heard something that made me chuckle a bit at taking NFL issues so seriously. That’s all in fun. It’s my wife telling me stories about how things are at work. She’s an RN in the middle of a nursing shortage. In my mind, I was playing out this joke scenario where I would respond by saying yeah well that sounds bad and everything, but what about the Rams running game??!!)
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znModeratorMatthew Stafford has a 127.2 passer rating under pressure
1st among all QBs 🔥 pic.twitter.com/lyjZog07eY
— PFF Fantasy Football (@PFF_Fantasy) October 2, 2021
znModeratorThe vast majority of NFL experts are picking the Rams to beat the Cardinals in Week 4. https://t.co/x4BUUACR7l
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) October 2, 2021
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October 2, 2021 at 8:24 am in reply to: Nurses fired for not getting COVID-19 vaccine explain their rationale #132711
znModeratorI know that if you're not vaccinated you're automatically discounting anything that Fauci says, but he is reporting a good set of stats. Delta is 1000 times more contagious than Wuhan, and 37% of even mild cases have organ damage.https://t.co/auX5LIHeMp
— Gail McGowan Mellor (@authorpendragon) October 2, 2021
znModeratorAaron Donald Vs Kyler Murray, coming to a Sunday near you… pic.twitter.com/pVHK2MayL6
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) October 1, 2021
znModeratorEight games… we’ve lost 8 games in a row to the frickin’ Rams. How do we beat this team? Can we?
https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2021/9/29/22699896/how-do-we-beat-the-ing-rams
It’s Rams Week—or, as it has been known for the past four years, Losing Week. As all Cardinals fans must know by now, we have not beaten the Rams since they hired Sean McVay back in 2017. They’ve outscored us 251(!) to 91 in that span, or about a 31-11 ass-kicking every game, including two shutouts.
Things have been a bit closer since Kliff and Kyler took over here in the desert, but not by much—the average loss has *only* been about 30-17. Hey, small progress!
Here’s the thing, though—most of those games have come against Jared Goff, who’s about as mediocre as they come at QB. But he’s been exiled to Detroit and replaced by Matthew Stafford, who sure looks like the league MVP at this (early) point for a 3-0 Rams team that is a true Super Bowl contender.
But this is a new year and the Cardinals are also 3-0 with Kyler playing his way into the MVP conversation. If we’re going to beat the Rams, this Cardinals team with an impressive offense and stout defense looks like it could do it.
So: How, exactly, are we supposed to beat this team that has been running roughshod over us for years and are favored by 4.5 points at home on Sunday? Let’s take a look at the unit matchups (offense vs. defense) and find out.
Cardinals Offense vs. Rams Defense
The Redbirds boast the #2 offense in the league by yardage (in the top-10 in both rushing and passing), and are tied for the #1 scoring offense (34.3 PPG) with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers… who the Rams just squashed. This unit really seems to be clicking in Year 3 of the Kliff and Kyler show with the second-highest yards per play in the league (6.8), although we haven’t exactly faced the toughest slate of defenses (TEN, MIN, JAX). If there’s a weakness or two here, it’s Kyler’s concerning propensity for INTs (4, which is behind only struggling youngsters Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence, and Joe Burrow) and performance on 3rd down, where we’re just 11/31 (35.5%, #23 in the league).
The Rams heralded defense lags at #20 in the league in yardage, but is #10 in points against, which makes sense when you realize they’ve been ahead most of the time in their games. The yardage splits confirm this, with the Rams D at #25 against the pass but #11 against the rush. To put it another way, they’ve faced the third-most pass attempts but the sixth-fewest rush attempts. But only 2 of the 131 pass attempts they’ve faced have gone for a TD, compared to 3 INTs (good for #8 in QB rating against). So this bend-not-break unit actually hides a stingy, opportunistic pass defense. Not good news for Kyler and Co. That said, their rush D has allowed 4.3 YPC and 4 TDs on the ground, so perhaps going more Ground Raid than Air Raid would be a good idea. Finally, the Rams have struggled a bit on 3rd down, with teams converting at a 45.7% clip, but they button up on 4th down, allowing just 1/7 conversions. Go figure. Those stats could easily come into play on Sunday.
Edge: Although the Cardinals offense looks like it’s taking a leap to elite status this season, you still have to give the edge to the Rams here. They’ve consistently stymied us in recent years no matter who is under center, and we have yet to prove we can score against them. I could easily see a couple of Kyler picks on Sunday.
Cardinals Defense vs. Rams Offense
Vance Joseph’s defense sits just outside the top-10 in yardage and scoring, ranking #11 in both. The yardage splits are of interest. Our pass defense is #8 in the league, including #10 in QB rating against and a tie for #4 in sacks. But our run defense is one of the worst in the league so far, ranking at #29… despite bottling up Derrick Henry in Week 1. (Both Minnesota and Jacksonville racked up 150+ yards on the ground against us.) Overall, this is a solid unit that’s played well against some decent offenses… although nothing like the Rams’.
On paper, our defensive strengths and weaknesses match up well against this Rams offense. The Rams have the #6 passing offense on the arm of Stafford and his instant chemistry with Cooper Kupp, but their running attack is all the way down at #27. That’ll happen when you lose a your top two RBs. But this is still the #3 offense in yards per play (6.7) and scoring (31.7 PPG). They also limit turnovers (just two on the season). I’m sure McVay would like to get more out of his running game, but this isn’t an offense built around 1,200-yard seasons from Todd Gurley anymore. This is Stafford’s show, and they have the whole league watching.
Edge: Again, although our defense is playing well, you have to give the edge to the Rams again not only because of recent history (McVay just has our number) but because of how Stafford has completely reshaped this unit. McVay finally has a QB who can fully execute his offense, and the league—especially the Cardinals—need to watch out.
Other Factors
I wanted to mention two other points of interest quickly. The first is penalties. Surprisingly, the Cardinals are actually middle of the pack (#16) in penalties after 3 games with 20 flags, and they haven’t been too damaging, as we’re only #25 in penalty yards (157). At the risk of stating the obvious: if the Cardinals have any chance of pulling off the upset, we need to limit penalties. The only thing is… the Rams aren’t going to beat themselves. They have committed just 7(!) penalties on the season for just 55 yards, both tops in the league. This is just a disciplined, well-coached team.
The other point is time of possession. There’s a definite disparity here, with the Cardinals ranking #6 in the league (32:42) and the Rams ranking #25 (27.48). These numbers are a function of a few things. For one, the Cardinals run the ball better, and two, the Rams score so damn quickly. But, and again I’m stating the obvious, keeping the ball out of Stafford’s hands as much as possible is a smart idea. (Albeit one that hasn’t worked for any of the Rams’ opponents yet.)
Final Thoughts
After looking over these stats/matchups, here’s the picture I’m seeing: These are two of the best offenses in the league, and both defenses are better against the pass than the run. The Rams are the more polished, disciplined team, but the Cardinals are improving in that aspect. I do see the Rams as the better overall team, but not by much. The 4.5-point spread implies about a 1.5-point advantage for the Rams on a neutral field, which sounds about right.
So: Can the Cardinals finally end their 8-game losing streak at the hands of Sean McVay and the Rams? Sure they *can*. This is the best version of the Kliff and Kyler show that we’ve seen, and Vance Joseph is doing yeoman’s work with the defense. I’m fully ready to take back much of my past criticism of Kliff and Vance if this team is a true contender.
But to be a true contender, this team needs to beat the Rams. So: *Will* the Cardinals beat the Rams on the road on Sunday?
I’ll once more state the obvious: It depends on how they play. DUH. But what I mean is it depends on, I think, how our offense attacks the Rams defense. If we show up in Los Angeles and try to turn the game into a track meet, airing it out and hoping Kyler can outduel Stafford, I think we lose. Potentially hard. Bruce Arians and Tom Brady—only the defending champs—just tried that last weekend and lost by double digits. That’s not, I think, how you beat this team.
But the Cardinals have always had a strong run game under Kliff, kind of ironic for one of the early proponents of the Air Raid. From the numbers/matchups I’m seeing, the way we win this game is on the ground. That limits the potential for back-breaking turnovers and keeps the ball out of Stafford’s hands. Of course we’ll take our shots downfield—we’d be stupid not to—but that shouldn’t be options 1A and 1B.
Instead, I hope we see liberal doses of Chase Edmonds and James Conner pounding the rock, and a season-high rushing total from Kyler, which is just 31 yards. If he can get to 50 or so and Edmonds/Conner can combine for 100—or 150+ total—I like our chances. If the run game gets shut down or we abandon it, I think we come home with our 9th-straight loss to the Rams.
I hope we “Ram It” down their throats all afternoon and end that ignominious streak. It’s time to make a statement, Cardinals.
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znModeratorZooey found this, good catch
Though he’s only 22nd in the league in pass attempts this season, averaging just 31 throws per game, he’s ranked fifth in passing yards and tied for second in touchdowns.
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The Rams And Matthew Stafford Have Each Leveled UpThe Los Angeles Rams hosted the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday — and anyone who didn’t know any better might have thought the Rams were the ones trying to win their second straight Super Bowl. Bucs quarterback Tom Brady put up what used to be considered a typical Matthew Stafford stat line: a whopping 55 pass attempts for 432 yards — but only one touchdown, and in a losing effort. Stafford, for the Rams, was Bradyesque: a 71 percent completion rate on 38 attempts, for 343 yards, four touchdowns, no picks, and a 134.0 passer rating. Meanwhile, the Los Angeles defense held Tampa Bay to just 35 yards rushing on 13 attempts, and the Bucs managed just two total touchdowns until a garbage-time score with 1:10 left. It was a no-doubter of a win against the reigning champs.
But the NFL isn’t old-school college football, where beating the team ranked No. 1 in the opinion polls made you the new No. 1. The Bucs still have the highest Elo rating in the FiveThirtyEight prediction model, and bettors still believe in Tampa Bay (and the 1-2 Kansas City Chiefs) a little more than they do in L.A. And to clinch the No. 1 seed in the NFC — the only seed that gets a bye into the second round of the playoffs — the Rams still have to fight their way through the NFL’s toughest division.
Let’s start with Stafford, whom the Rams made an all-in push to acquire. Though he’s only 22nd in the league in pass attempts this season, averaging just 31 throws per game, he’s ranked fifth in passing yards and tied for second in touchdowns.1 He’s No. 2 in passer rating, QBR, touchdown rate and average yards per attempt, and he’s No. 1 in net yards per attempt, adjusted net yards per attempt, and Football Outsiders’ Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement (DYAR). He’s on pace to set career highs in every one of those stats2 — except pass attempts, where his projected 533 attempts over 17 games would be fewer than in all but one of his nine 16-game seasons.
Stafford’s metamorphosis as a quarterback has been fascinating. After injuries shortened his first and second seasons, he spent four years trying to carry the Detroit Lions with sheer volume. He averaged a whopping 675 throws per year from 2011 through 2013, twice leading the league in attempts. But he averaged a passer rating of just 86.9 in that span, per Pro-Football-Reference.com, with an unimpressive-since-the-1980s 1.7-to-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio.
In 2014, new offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi tried to get Stafford to play small(er) ball, bringing Drew Brees’s playbook north with him from New Orleans. Stafford’s interception rate went down during Lombardi’s first year, and the quarterback made his only Pro Bowl appearance to date. But his touchdown rate and yards per attempt also went down, and Lombardi was fired in 2015 amidst reports that Stafford had never been on board with his conservative game plan.
Promoted QB coach Jim Bob Cooter let Stafford grip it and rip it again, and for a while it worked: In 2017, Stafford set then-highs in passer rating, QBR and adjusted net yards per attempt. But defenses figured Cooter and head coach Jim Caldwell out, and after the 2018 season, both of them had been sent packing. Stafford had to evolve again, adjusting to Darrell Bevell’s QB-movement-heavy approach. Somehow asking a 31-year-old Stafford to beat teams with his athleticism worked; in 2019 he again set or matched career best in touchdown rate, interception rate, passer rating, QBR and plenty of other rate stats.
Now, under Rams head coach (and oft-described offensive mastermind) Sean McVay, Stafford appears to have achieved his final form: aggressive, effective, efficient and putting up yards and points in bunches despite throwing far less often than he used to.
But the Rams aren’t compensating by running the ball. They’re 15th in the league in rushing attempts, gaining a second-worst 3.3 average yards per carry. They’re ranked 26th in number of offensive plays and 28th in offensive drives. Yet they’re the best in the league at turning possessions into points, with a 58.6 percent per-drive scoring rate.
What McVay is doing becomes more apparent in the time-of-possession stats. They’re ranked 25th in offensive plays run but 17th in average drive time, using all those ineffective runs to slow down drives and keep their defense off the field. In fact, the Rams’ defense is tied for the second-fewest number of drives faced all year. That’s for the best, because they’re allowing a league-high 7.5 plays per drive and the second-highest average opponent drive time.
Surely, some of the success opponents have had stringing long drives together against them over the first three weeks comes from Brady and the Buccaneers happening to be one of their opponents. But the Rams held Brady to two total touchdowns on 446 yards of offense, and they were similarly stingy against the Indianapolis Colts and Chicago Bears. Despite letting their opponents run all those plays and rack up all that time of possession, the Rams’ defense is 12th-best in per-drive scoring rate allowed.
By slowing down their offensive drives, and bending but not breaking on defense, the Rams have both the league’s most explosive, effective passing game and a ball-control, possession-denial strategy. Unlike old Rams teams that could score as fast as they wanted but wore out their defense in the process, the 2021 Rams seem built to maximize not only Stafford’s arm, but also their chances to win in February.
znModeratorLet’s start with Stafford, whom the Rams made an all-in push to acquire. Though he’s only 22nd in the league in pass attempts this season, averaging just 31 throws per game, he’s ranked fifth in passing yards and tied for second in touchdowns.1 He’s No. 2 in passer rating, QBR, touchdown rate and average yards per attempt, and he’s No. 1 in net yards per attempt, adjusted net yards per attempt, and Football Outsiders’ Defense-adjusted Yards Above Replacement (DYAR). He’s on pace to set career highs in every one of those stats2 — except pass attempts, where his projected 533 attempts over 17 games would be fewer than in all but one of his nine 16-game seasons.
Goes here: on Stafford, from after the Bux game http://theramshuddle.com/topic/stafford-has-great-touch-on-the-ball/
I will put the whole article in that thread
znModeratorRams are on hardly anywhere.
znModeratorKyler Murray and the Cardinals are playing at a high level through three weeks, but what does @BaldyNFL expect in a battle between unbeaten teams when Arizona visits the LA Rams on Sunday?
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— You Better You Bet (@YouBetterYouBet) September 30, 2021
znModeratorWarren Sapp went gaga when talking about Aaron Donald; says he’s the best one-on-one pass rusher of all-time on the inside
"He’s the best thing I’ve ever seen." https://t.co/98Qf0wTeUG
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) September 30, 2021
znModeratorCOOPER KUPP, THAT'S A NICE ROUTE
Kupp has been named NFC Offensive Player of the Month, giving the Rams 3 offensive awards out of 4 so far https://t.co/IhQ2Zo4a2h
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) September 30, 2021
znModeratordidn't realize Stafford went trick shot no-look on the TE screen to hold Lavonte David pic.twitter.com/vLv4yRDEgl
— Nate Tice (@Nate_Tice) September 28, 2021
znModeratorRex Ryan: "[The Rams are] the best football team in the league."@danorlovsky7: "Matt Stafford is the MVP of the NFL right now."
— Get Up (@GetUpESPN) September 27, 2021
znModeratorInterior pressure without Antonio Brown or Rob Gronkowski? Brady has little chance pic.twitter.com/Sph71mZqxZ
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 27, 2021
znModeratorDevin White tried to do the right thing but blocked off Carlton Davis…DeSean Jackson says, “thankyouverymuch” Latka Gravas style.#RamsHouse pic.twitter.com/nFGMs4iRnL
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 27, 2021
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