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March 17, 2022 at 5:18 pm in reply to: Rams sign Allen Robinson… & the trade talk this sets off (Woods?) #137659
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueBig news for the Rams, who have agreed to terms with WR Allen Robinson, source confirms multiple reports. This is a big twist and a high-caliber add to their WRs room. Several teams were interested in Robinson.I am also told this move does NOT mean the Rams don’t also want to re-sign Beckham. That deal is tricky and may take some time to work out considering injury and eventual return timeline..Field Yates@FieldYatesImagine the Rams going five wide like this…Cooper KuppRobert WoodsOdell Beckham, Jr.Allen RobinsonVan JeffersonVideo game stuff.March 17, 2022 at 5:12 pm in reply to: Rams sign Allen Robinson… & the trade talk this sets off (Woods?) #137658
znModerator“Sean McVay, now you have Allen Robinson, how many times a game are you going to throw the ball?” pic.twitter.com/f6g2RoveqO
— 𝕋𝕠𝕞 (@TL_LARams) March 17, 2022
March 17, 2022 at 4:59 pm in reply to: Rams sign Allen Robinson… & the trade talk this sets off (Woods?) #137656
znModeratorThe Rams are DEEP at wide receiver now. Might Robert Woods or Van Jefferson be used as a trade chip? 🤔 https://t.co/MWo9yr8q98
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 17, 2022
March 17, 2022 at 4:36 pm in reply to: Rams sign Allen Robinson… & the trade talk this sets off (Woods?) #137652
znModeratorfrom the wiki
Professional career[edit]
Coming out of Penn State, Robinson was projected by the majority of analysts and scouts to be a first-to-third round draft selection. NFLDraftScout.com ranked him as the sixth best wide receiver and the 34th overall prospect, while Sports Illustrated ranked him seventh among wide receivers.[39] He was invited to the 2014 NFL Combine and completed the majority of workouts, but elected not to perform the bench press. Robinson participated at Penn State’s Pro Day and decided to perform all the drills except the bench and shuttle and was able to improve on all of his combine numbers.[40]
Height Weight Arm length Hand span 40-yard dash 10-yard split 20-yard split 20-yard shuttle Three-cone drill Vertical jump Broad jump 6 ft 2+5⁄8 in
(1.90 m)220 lb
(100 kg)32 in
(0.81 m)9+1⁄2 in
(0.24 m)4.60 s 1.53 s 2.59 s 4.00 s 7.00 s 39 in
(0.99 m)10 ft 7 in
(3.23 m)Jacksonville Jaguars[edit]
2014
The Jacksonville Jaguars selected Robinson in the second round with the 61st overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft.[42] He was the 11th wide receiver selected and the second receiver drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars in 2014, behind Marqise Lee who was selected in the second round at 39th overall. In addition, Robinson was one of three Penn State Nittany Lions to be selected that year.[43] On June 21, 2014, the Jaguars signed Robinson to a four-year, $3.51 million contract that included $1.17 million guaranteed and a signing bonus of $877,718.[44]Robinson opened the regular season as the fourth wide receiver behind Marqise Lee, Cecil Shorts, and fellow rookie Allen Hurns.[45][46] In the Jaguars’ season opener on September 7, he caught his first career pass from Chad Henne for no gain in a 34–17 loss to the Philadelphia Eagles.[47] On September 14, he had four receptions for 75 receiving yards in the 41–10 loss to the Washington Redskins.[48] On September 21, he earned his first career start and caught seven passes for 79 receiving yards in a 44–17 loss to the Indianapolis Colts in Week 3.[49] On October 12, he caught a season-high eight passes for 68 receiving yards in a 14–16 loss to the Tennessee Titans.[50] The following week, Robinson caught his first touchdown from fellow rookie Blake Bortles during a 24–6 victory over the Cleveland Browns[51] to help the Jacksonville Jaguars end a nine-game losing streak.[52] On October 26, he had five receptions for 82 receiving yards and a receiving touchdown in the 27–13 loss to the Miami Dolphins.[53] On November 9, he had five receptions for 60 receiving yards in a 31–17 loss to the Dallas Cowboys.[54] The game against the Cowboys was Robinson’s last game in the 2014 season where he recorded any meaningful statistics due to a stress fracture in his right foot.[55]
Robinson finished his rookie season with 48 receptions for 548 receiving yards and two touchdowns while starting eight games and playing in ten.[56]
2015
The following season, Robinson was named one of the regular season starters, along with fellow second-year player Allen Hurns.[57]In the season opener, he caught one pass for 27 receiving yards in a 9–20 loss to the Carolina Panthers.[58] The next game, Robinson caught six passes for a season-high 155 receiving yards and scored two receiving touchdowns during a 23–20 victory over the Miami Dolphins[59] On October 11, he had seven receptions for 72 receiving yards and two receiving touchdowns in the 38–31 loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.[60] In the next game on October 18, he had six receptions for 86 receiving yards and a receiving touchdown in the 31–20 loss to the Houston Texans.[61] The next week, he had six receptions for 98 receiving yards and a receiving touchdown in a 34–31 victory over the Buffalo Bills.[62] On November 8, he had six receptions for 121 receiving yards in the 28–23 victory over the New York Jets.[63] On November 19, he had five receptions for 113 receiving yards in a 19–13 victory over the Tennessee Titans.[64] On December 20, Robinson caught a season-high 10 receptions for 153 receiving yards and a season-high three receiving touchdowns during a 39–42 loss to the Tennessee Titans.[65] On December 27, he had six receptions for 151 receiving yards and a receiving touchdown in the 38–27 loss to the New Orleans Saints. His receiving touchdown in the game was a 90-yard reception, which was the longest in the NFL for the 2015 season and the longest play from scrimmage in franchise history.[66][67][68] In the regular season finale on January 3, 2016, he had five receptions for 108 receiving yards in a 30–6 loss to the Houston Texans as the Jaguars finished with a 5–11 record.[69][70]
Robinson finished his second season with 80 receptions for 1,400 receiving yards and 14 touchdown receptions.[71] He led the Jaguars in receptions, receiving yards, and receiving touchdowns during the 2015 season and was the first Jaguars’ receiver since Jimmy Smith in 2005 to have over 1,000 receiving yards in a single season.[49] Robinson recorded the second-most receiving yards in a season in franchise history at the time.[72] He, along with Doug Baldwin and Brandon Marshall, tied for the league lead in receiving touchdowns with 14.[73] He was the first player in franchise history to be a league leader in receiving touchdowns in a single season.[74]
Robinson was named as a first alternate to the 2016 Pro Bowl and replaced Calvin Johnson, who was unable to participate due to injury.[75] He was ranked 31st by his fellow players on the NFL Top 100 Players of 2016.[76]
After Robinson and Hurns both had breakout seasons in 2015 with over 60 receptions, 1,000 receiving yards, and 10 touchdown receptions each, they were nicknamed “Thunder and Lightning” and “The Allen Brothers”.[77][78]
2016
In the Jaguars’ season-opener against the Green Bay Packers, Robinson caught six passes for 72 receiving yards in a 23–27 loss.[79] On September 25, he made seven receptions for 57 receiving yards, and caught his first two touchdowns of the season during a 17–19 loss to the Baltimore Ravens.[80] During a Week 10 matchup against AFC South rival Houston, Robinson had a nine receptions, 107 receiving yards, and a receiving touchdown during the 21–24 loss.[81] The victory over the Texans was Robinson’s first game of the season eclipsing 100 receiving yards. On Christmas Eve, he bounced back and caught nine passes for a season-high 147 receiving yards in a 38–17 victory over their division rival Tennessee Titans.[82]The Jacksonville Jaguars finished the season with a dismal 3–13 record and head coach Gus Bradley was fired after Week 15. Interim head coach Doug Marrone was hired on January 9, 2017.[49] Robinson finished the 2016 season with 73 receptions for 883 receiving yards and six receiving touchdowns.[83]
2017
During Week 1 against the Houston Texans, Robinson had one reception for 17 yards but had to leave the game early in the first quarter with an apparent knee injury.[84] Hours later, it was confirmed that his left knee was diagnosed with a torn ACL, which prematurely ended his 2017 season.[85] He was placed on injured reserve on September 12, 2017.[86]Chicago Bears[edit]
2018
On March 14, 2018, Robinson signed a three-year, $42 million contract with the Chicago Bears.[87][88] He was part of a position group that contained Taylor Gabriel, Anthony Miller, and Josh Bellamy.[89] He made his Bears debut in the season opener against the Green Bay Packers on NBC Sunday Night Football, recording a team-high 61 yards.[90] The next week, he brought in a season-high 10 receptions for 83 yards in a 24–17 victory over the Seattle Seahawks on Monday Night Football.[91] On September 30, he scored his first receiving touchdown with the Bears on a 14-yard reception from Mitchell Trubisky in a 48–10 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.[92] The next week, he scored again against the Miami Dolphins on a 12-yard catch as part of a 64-yard performance on five receptions in the 31–28 overtime loss.[93] In Week 10, a 34–22 victory over the Detroit Lions, Robinson had six catches for 133 yards and two touchdowns.[94][95]Robinson finished the 2018 season with 55 catches for 754 receiving yards and four receiving touchdowns. He received an overall grade of 77.7 from Pro Football Focus in 2018, which ranked as the 28th highest grade among all qualifying wide receivers.[96] In his postseason debut, a 16–15 defeat to the Philadelphia Eagles in the Wild Card Round, Robinson set two postseason franchise records: 10 receptions, which tied with Matt Forte, and 143 receiving yards.[97][98]
2019
Robinson in 2019
Robinson in a game against the Washington Redskins
In Week 1 against the Green Bay Packers, Robinson caught seven passes for 102 receiving yards as the Bears lost 10–3.[99] In Week 2 against the Denver Broncos, Robinson caught four passes for 41 receiving yards as the Bears won 16–14. With seconds left on the game clock, Robinson caught a 25-yard pass from quarterback Mitchell Trubisky that set up a 53-yard game winning field goal by Eddy Piñeiro.[100] In Week 5 against the Oakland Raiders, Robinson caught seven passes for 97 receiving yards and two receiving touchdowns in the 24–21 loss.[101] In Week 12 against the New York Giants, Robinson caught six passes for 131 receiving yards and a receiving touchdown in the 19–14 win.[102] In Week 13 against the Detroit Lions on Thanksgiving Day, Robinson caught eight passes for 86 receiving yards and a receiving touchdown in the 24–20 win.[103] In the following week’s game against the Dallas Cowboys on Thursday Night Football, Robinson caught five passes for 48 receiving yards and two receiving touchdowns in the 31–24 win.[104] In Week 15 against the Packers, Robinson caught seven passes for 125 receiving yards in the 21–13 loss. During the game, Robinson reached 1,000 receiving yards on the season for the first time since 2015.[105] He became the first Bears receiver to reach 1,000 receiving yards in a single season since Alshon Jeffery in 2014.[106] Robinson finished the 2019 season with a career high in receptions with 98 for 1,147 receiving yards and seven receiving touchdowns.[107]2020
During Week 3 against the Atlanta Falcons, Robinson finished with 123 receiving yards and a touchdown as the Bears won 30–26.[108] In the following week’s game against the Indianapolis Colts, Robinson recorded seven catches for 101 yards and another touchdown during the 19–11 loss.[109] In Week 12 against the Green Bay Packers on Sunday Night Football, he had eight receptions for 74 receiving yards and two receiving touchdowns during the 41–25 loss.[110]In Week 13 against the Detroit Lions, Robinson caught a pass on third down-and-5 with 22 seconds left in the game and stepped out of bounds after four yards instead of going for the first down. The Bears were unable to convert on the ensuing fourth-and-1 attempt and turned the ball over on downs, losing the game by a score of 34–30.[111][112] In Week 14 against the Houston Texans, he had nine receptions for 123 receiving yards and a touchdown in the 36–7 victory;[113] the performance enabled him to pass 1,000 receiving yards for the second straight season.[114] The following week’s game saw Robinson play against his former team in the Jacksonville Jaguars,[115] during which he recorded 103 receiving yards and surpassed 100 season receptions for the first time in his career as the Bears won 41–17.[116] Overall, Robinson finished the 2020 season with 102 receptions for 1,250 receiving yards and six receiving touchdowns.[117] Robinson’s 102 receptions tied him with Matt Forte for the second-most in franchise history for a single season.[118]
2021
On March 9, 2021, the Bears placed the franchise tag on Robinson.[119] He signed the one-year tender on March 24.[120] Overall, Robinson finished the 2021 season with 38 receptions for 410 receiving yards and one receiving touchdown in 12 games played.[121]
Los Angeles Rams
On March 17, 2022, Robinson signed a three year, $46 million dollar contract with the Los Angeles Rams.[122]-
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March 17, 2022 at 4:33 pm in reply to: Rams sign Allen Robinson… & the trade talk this sets off (Woods?) #137651
znModeratorAllen Robinson Highlights! Welcome To The LA RAMS!!
March 17, 2022 at 4:32 pm in reply to: Rams sign Allen Robinson… & the trade talk this sets off (Woods?) #137650
znModerator𝕋𝕠𝕞@TL_LARamsThe strangest thing about the Rams signing Allen Robinson is that it takes away a comp pick. Shows how much they think of A-Rob as a player.
znModeratorDoes the NFC run through Rams and Bucs in 2022? https://t.co/TaSdvUpJxK
— TurfShowTimes (@TurfShowTimes) March 16, 2022
znModeratorIt’s hard to say right now what the weak links are. It’s hard to say because the Rams drafting and position coaching is so good, players just emerge. So among all the replacements moving up the ranks, we honestly don’t know who to count on or who only looks good on paper and who will surprise. This last year alone Scott, Jones, Gaines, Robinson, Allen, Noteboom, Blanton, Michel, and even Kupp in his own much more elevated way came through and surprised. If I wrote before the season started that all those players would come through (with Kupp at an especially high level even compared to his past) people would think I was crazy.
We don’t know if Stafford’s bad games in 2021 just mean he needs to settle in and be more familiar with the system.
On paper they need:
a CB to step up
the safeties to stay healthy (though Scott & Fuller is a promising combo)
Jones to stay healthy
Hollins to return at OLB and be decent
Noteboom to come through (though he looked good when he played)
a guard to emerge (and they do have candidates, including a really surprising one–Jackson)
TEs to stay healthy (though they seem to be stocked?!)
Woods to return, so they have more than just Kupp…maybe if he is affordable, OBJ for late in thre year?
to have healthy RBs all year
On Miller–I didn’t expect him to sign. Rams don’t have the money. I don’t like the “rental” aspect of it, but it helped them win a superbowl, and the Rams do draft well in lower rounds. So maybe it balances out.
znModerator#LARams has cleared $12M in cap by reworking #LeonardFloyd contract. #AndrewWhitworth announcing his retirement also saves the #Rams an additional $16M in cap space. LA could open up even more cap space by extending players such as quarterback #MatthewStafford and #AaronDonald pic.twitter.com/e7ElNTiKkT
— Rams Super Fan (@RamsSuperFan) March 16, 2022
znModeratorJeff Howe@jeffphoweMore details on Von Miller’s contract with the Bills, per source: Miller will earn an average of $17.5M through three seasons ($52.5M total), most of which is guaranteed. Nothing guaranteed after the third year.==
"McVay & the Rams were on the phone with Von & his agent 3 different times throughout the day. A lot of emotions there. In the end, the $$ the Bills offered just wasn't able to be matched. The Rams' loss is the Bills' gain & now Von looks to take Buffalo over the top."-@Pschrags pic.twitter.com/kE8kUSXvoR
— Good Morning Football (@gmfb) March 17, 2022
znModeratorThe signing of Von Miller by the Buffalo Bills is a prime example of a team doubling-down on a strength. https://t.co/CA9QkJfkb4
— Touchdown Wire (@TheNFLWire) March 17, 2022
znModeratorThe media seems to have morphed from pipeline of BS to generator of BS. The media itself is doctoring photos and videos, and so on.
According to the press accounts I have seen about this issue, that’s not true.
znModeratorWhile you may never want your team to punt, oh boy when you have to it’s rare to have a talent like Johnny Hekker. Against the Jets in 2016 the All Pro had a 78 yard punt! pic.twitter.com/OM65qDGlaJ
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) December 19, 2020
March 16, 2022 at 9:29 pm in reply to: Seattle trades Wilson to Denver…update, & release Wagner #137626
znModeratorThe Seahawks say Russell Wilson wanted out. Russell Wilson says it was mutual. Who's telling the truth? https://t.co/0bEoNnTAcP
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 17, 2022
March 16, 2022 at 9:25 pm in reply to: Rams internal FAs & contract issues (updated w/ big article] #137625
znModeratorTyler Bearde@tbeardeWhitworth retires (expected) Hekker released (not shocked), Reeder not tendered (expected), Signed elsewhere: Corbett (expected, Joseph-Day (expected), Okoronkwo (kinda surprising), Williams (expected), Miller (shocking). That’s quite a few impact players that will need replacing
znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakDTRWill the Rams get some criticism for giving up a 2nd and 3rd round pick for half a season of Von Miller? But what would you trade for a Lombardi trophy.you don’t “replace” Von Miller. Justin Hollins was playing very well before his injury early in the year. Terrell Lewis will get an opportunity. Don’t sleep on Chris Garrett. Obviously they’ll look at the draft as well.
znModeratoram skeptical that that kind of result can be duplicated.
They already have duplicated it. Looking at 2019-2020, they are one of the best drafting teams in the league. This is cemented by 3 picks in a row in 2019–rounds 5 through 7. If nothing else they are drafting in the lower rounds better than they ever have in their entire history (that’s not hyperbole).
Key:
red for solid to very good starter
blue for developing contributor who has come through
italics for players who have shown something but it is too soon to say, or has good buzz and good promise2020 2 Cam Akers
2020 2 Van Jefferson
2020 3 Terrell Lewis
2020 3 Terrell Burgess
2020 4 Brycen Hopkins
2020 6 Jordan Fuller
2020 7 Clay Johnston
2020 7 Sam Sloman
2020 7 Tremayne Anchrum2019 2 Taylor Rapp
2019 3 Darrell Henderson
2019 3 David Long
2019 3 Bobby Evans
2019 4 Greg Gaines
2019 5 David Edwards
2019 7 Nick Scott
2019 7 Dakota AllenCounting just blue and red picks as hits, that’s x hits out of 17 picks. A hit rate of 47%, which is absolutely golden. All this without a 1st rounder. If you count only starters, so red picks, it’s 6 of 17, which is 35%. That’s above the average for lower round picks.
znModeratorBlaine Grisak@bgrisakDTRAn update on the Rams 2023 comp picks. Williams should net them a 4th.
znModeratorHoldenCantor@HoldenCantorThe Rams have cleared $28 mil in cap space by Whitworth retiring and restructuring Floyd’s deal.March 16, 2022 at 1:43 pm in reply to: Rams internal FAs & contract issues (updated w/ big article] #137606
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueReported last week and here that ILB Travin Howard would receive a tender from the Rams. It’s an original-round tender, per source. Howard was a seventh-round pick in 2018. Rams also sent an original-round tender to Matt Gay and extended would-be RFA OL Coleman Shelton.
znModeratorPerhaps, having a topnotch LT, is a key ingredient: Orlando Pace Andrew Whitworth w v
You forget Alex Barron, Jason Smith, and Greg Robinson.
znModeratorSo do the Rams have 2 third-round picks? w v
The Rams’ third-rounder was thanks to Brad Holmes being hired as the Lions’ GM last year, which was part of the NFL’s minority hiring initiative that awards teams a third-round compensatory pick in consecutive years for another team hiring an executive or coach as its head coach or GM.
That third-rounder will be their first pick in the draft, coming at No. 104 overall. If not for that selection, their first pick would’ve been at No. 142 overall.
The other comp picks were from the losses of Samson Ebukam, Gerald Everett, Morgan Fox, Troy Hill and John Johnson.
In total, the Rams have one third-rounder, one fourth-rounder, one fifth-rounder, three sixth-rounders and two picks in the seventh round.
znModeratorThe Los Angeles Rams were just awarded five extra picks in the NFL draft https://t.co/6ZPMPX6J87
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) March 16, 2022
znModeratorNoteboom’s contract.

Notice that they gave him a big signing bonus then stretched it out with 2 void years. So they gave him a low cap number for 2022 (3.5 M) with a low salary (1.5 M), but also gave him 10 M in bonus money. He does not become a real cap hit until 2023. When he does get a real cap hit in 23, it’s very reasonable for a starting LOT (15.5 M).
znModeratorI was discussing this with my son on Sunday. My “sense” is that we used to be able to more-or-less believe that the media gave us facts, although they would frame the facts to represent the interest of the elite class. There has always been disinformation, but I used to believe that for the most part, we were given facts. The trick was to perceive the framing at work around those facts. Now, MSM makes shit up themselves. It used to be just the corps and the gov’t engaged in disinformation. Now the media is making shit up.
I disagree though not in a major way. Back when the invasion of Iraq was building up, it was possible to debunk major narratives justifying it, such as the claim the WMD were likely to exist in Iraq. The MSM was not pushing that counter-narrative. Yet we (quite correctly) deduced that the dominant narrative did not hold up and that the opposite was far more likely.
You can find things out, but you can’t do it alone and you need to know how to find sources that are not just in the media, meaning either the MSM or the “alternatives.” Sometimes it’s not a matter of finding “facts” but of finding which narratives stand up better to scrutiny.
Sometimes you don’t get enough to know. Sometimes you get enough to make analysis possible.
znModeratorWith Noteboom, Allen and Shelton back, we might already know what the Rams' starting offensive line will look like in 2022 https://t.co/fQj56iWzuL
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) March 15, 2022
znModeratorPFF’s top free agents remaining 👀
Who do you want the Rams to sign?⬇️ https://t.co/YkNjUaD0uO
— PFF LA Rams (@PFF_Rams) March 15, 2022
znModeratorFirst day of negotiations ends with 39 of top 100 free agents attached to teams. https://t.co/0RM9TEMfnE
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) March 15, 2022
znModeratorWith Day 1 of the NFL’s official tampering period in the books, here are the best remaining free agents for the 2022 league year. https://t.co/JPMMvHDEcC
— Touchdown Wire (@TheNFLWire) March 15, 2022
znModeratorSo many Free Agents on the move yesterday!
Which team made the biggest statement so far?
We're talking about it all morning long. Get over here. @nflnetwork. pic.twitter.com/eSPT9ALfmE
— Good Morning Football (@gmfb) March 15, 2022
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