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  • in reply to: the new political tweets thread (4/4 2022) #138173
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    in reply to: draft talk in April #138171
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    in reply to: Rams tweets … 4/4 – 4/9 #138170
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    in reply to: people on Stafford, post super bowl #138165
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    from NFL 2022 QB Gravitron: What advanced metrics say about Joe Burrow, Justin Herbert, Patrick Mahomes and others

    https://theathletic.com/3204802/2022/04/01/nfl-2022-qb-gravitron-what-advanced-metrics-say-about-justin-herbert-patrick-mahomes-joe-burrow-others/?source=weeklyemail&campaign=602288

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    Forget any of the numbers — Stafford will live in Rams royalty. That said, the numbers were pretty good in 2021. Stafford’s 0.17 EPA ranked third in 2021 behind only Rodgers and Mahomes. But Stafford did throw 17 interceptions last season, which pushed his 2021 IQR down to 102.3, his lowest in the last three seasons. The Rams are in great shape with Stafford, though.

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    in reply to: Rams tweets … 3/31 – 4/3 #138159
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    he addresses the greatest Rams defensive weakness, one we’ve seen for a couple of years and which is always demoralizing to watch when it happens. The run D and exploitation of short passing to the middle. With Wagner (on paper anyway) we will see fewer long drives against the Rams. You know how those look…demoralizing, frustrating drives that last all day. Wagner fixes that.

    == Do we have to go all the way back to London Fletcher to find a Ram Middle Linebacker that brings what BW does? w v

    Probably. But I think BW has more than Fletcher did, and I liked Fletcher a lot.

     

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    I would have preferred Clowney to Wagner.

    if i had my choice, ida preferred the rams bring miller back.

    I think you guys are underestimating what Wagner does for the defense. I personally like the unstoppable pass rush style of D, but I don’t dismiss what Wagner adds. (On paper anyway) he addresses the greatest Rams defensive weakness, one we’ve seen for a couple of years and which is always demoralizing to watch when it happens. The run D and exploitation of short passing to the middle. With Wagner (on paper anyway) we will see fewer long drives against the Rams. You know how those look…demoralizing, frustrating drives that last all day. Wagner fixes that.

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    in reply to: Rams tweets … 3/31 – 4/3 #138148
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    Losing Von Miller is significant, of course.   I dont think you replace a Von Miller.

    Losing Miller means losing one kind of top defense. Getting Wagner means getting a different kind of top defense.

    To be honest, if it were all up to me, I would prefer the Miller type of top defense. Impossible to block in the passing game.

    But I do acknowledge that the Wagner type of top defense is a good thing in its own right too. Hard to sustain long drives against it.

     

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    in reply to: Congress investigating Washington owner Snyder #138144
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    Frank Gore tells @TheSFNiners_ podcast that he will be signing a one-day contract with the 49ers and will retire from the NFL. He finishes his career with the 3rd most rushing yards in NFL history (16,000).
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    in reply to: draft talk in April #138139
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    there’s a safety in the draft named Smoke Monday?!?! We need to draft this kid.
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    in reply to: Wagner has agreed to terms #138135
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    someone at the herd said that this draft was deep at defensive back and edge rusher.

    I just posted 3 articles about the deepest positions in this draft. They’re here, dated today (last 3 in the thread): https://theramshuddle.com/topic/draft-talk-in-april/?view=all#post-138025

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    This year’s draft, like all others, has positions that are incredibly deep and have top-end talent. It also has positions that are lacking one or both of those things.

    In the first weeks of February, I went through all 11 position groups and ranked them all. I introduced the top-five players at every position and when they might be taken in this year’s draft.

    My positional rankings are based on a combination of the best players at each position and how deep the group is.
    This post will be updated throughout the series with links to our positional rankings.
    2022 NFL Draft positional rankings
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    No. 11: Running back
    No. 10: Tight end
    No. 8: Safety
    No. 6: Linebacker
    No. 4: Cornerback

     

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    Is Linebacker the Deepest Position in the 2022 NFL Draft?

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    Every year the question is always asked; what is the deepest position group? In the 2022 class, it just may be the linebacker group. The edge rushers and corners may have a say when it is all said and done. But right now, on November 19<sup>th</sup>, my money is on the LBs.

    What makes a “deep” position group? For me, it is the ability to find starting-level players in every single round, and I think the 2022 Linebacker class fulfills that.

    HEADLINING LINEBACKERS

    While there may be no one getting anointed the second coming in this linebacker group, a couple of potential stars could find their way into round one. Starting with Georgia’s Nakobe Dean. The 6’0” 225-pound junior is a fantastic playmaker. Dean has shown an innate ability to affect the passing game. He has made highlight-reel plays in nearly every contest this season. Nakobe Dean plays on a defense that could have 7-8 players selected in the first two days of the 2022 NFL Draft. And yet, somehow, he manages to stand out.

    Utah linebacker Devin Lloyd has been a tackling force for the Utes in 2021. He currently has 85 tackles (48 solos) with 20 tackles for loss. Lloyd has sacked the quarterback six times, intercepted three passes, and deflected another six. Lloyd has accepted a 2022 Senior Bowl invitation, where I expect he will shine, potentially getting into the late first round.

    THE NEXT WAVE

    The next wave of linebacker prospects should all find themselves squarely in the day two conversation. Channing Tindall (Georgia) is a fast attacking player who closes like a bullet fired from the barrel of John Wick’s gun.

    Alabama has a pair of underclassmen that could fly off the board early. Christian Harris has seen his production dip in 2021, likely due to the emergence of Henry To’o To’o (Tennessee transfer).

    Chad Muma has drawn comparisons to his former Wyoming teammate Logan Wilson. Muma may be a better athlete than Wilson but needs to show more in coverage. He will get that chance at the Senior Bowl.

    Speaking of great athletes, look no further than Demarvion Overshown of Texas. I could also see Arizona State’s Merlin RobertsonZakoby McClain of Auburn, and Quay Walker of Georgia also being selected in the first 100 picks.

    DAY THREE DYNAMOS

    Day three could be littered with linebackers that make an early impact. I wouldn’t be shocked if 20-25 LBs were taken on day three. Not all will start of course. However, most will make impacts on special teams right out of the chute.

    Damone Clark, LSU

    Owen Pappoe, Auburn

    Micah McFadden, Indiana

    Ventrell Miller, Florida

    Darrian Beavers, Cincinnati

    Brandon Smith, Penn State

    Bumper Pool, Arkansas

    Nate Landman, Colorado

    Mike Rose, Iowa State

    Payton Wilson, NC State

    Ellis Brooks, Penn State

    Ellis Brooks, Penn State

    Jesse Luketa, Penn State

    Kuony Deng, Cal

    Grant Morgan, Arkansas

    Jesse Luketa, Penn State

    Kuony Deng, Cal

    Grant Morgan, Arkansas

    Jeremiah Gemmel, North Carolina

    Micah Baskerville, LSU

    Terrel Bernard, Baylor

    Jojo Domann, Nebraska

    Aaron Hansford, Texas A&M

    Isaac Slade-Matautia, SMU

    D’Marco Jackson, Appalachian State

     

    Any one of these linebackers could make a significant impact for the team that selects them in the 2022 NFL Draft.

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    PFF: Ranking the strongest position groups in the 2022 NFL Draft

    https://www.pff.com/news/draft-ranking-strongest-position-groups-2022-nfl-draft

    The 2022 NFL Draft is officially less than a month away, which means we have a pretty good handle on the relative strengths and weaknesses of the class at this point.

    This class takes back the balance of power for defenses. After a loaded offensive draft class in 2021, this year’s class is heavy on the defensive side of the ball.

    Here is how position groups in the 2022 NFL Draft, starting at edge defender.

     

    1. EDGE DEFENDER

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 14

    Not only are there 14 edge rushers in the PFF top 100, but there are also three in the top 10. This class has high-end talent, including the presumptive No. 1 pick Aidan Hutchinson, as well as depth into Day 2.

    The top four edges in this year’s class — Hutchinson (No. 1 on PFF’s big board), Kayvon Thibodeaux (No. 4), George Karlaftis (No. 10) and Travon Walker (No. 14) — would have all been EDGE1 in the 2021 class.

    2. LINEBACKER

    TOP-100 PLAYERS:  13

    This class is unlikely to match 2020 in terms of first-rounders. That year, four linebackers came off the board in the first round, while it doesn’t seem likely that more than two get drafted in the first round this year.

    Still, this year’s class should outshine that one on Day 2. There are 11 linebackers between No. 33 and No. 100 on the PFF draft board, and the only player no longer likely to go on Day 2 is LSU’s Damone Clark after he underwent spinal fusion surgery.

    3. WIDE RECEIVER

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 16

    Is this the new norm for receiver classes? While this year’s WR1, Drake London, would have checked in behind the top three from the 2021 class, the sheer depth of receivers with size in this draft class is staggering. In last year’s second round, four of the five receivers drafted were 5-foot-9 or shorter. That’s not going to be the case this year.

    Prospects like George Pickens (6-foot-3), Justyn Ross (6-foot-4), Christian Watson (6-foot-4),  Alec Pierce (6-foot-3) and Jalen Tolbert (6-foot-1) should give Day 2 of the 2022 class a decidedly different feel.

    4. OFFENSIVE TACKLE

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 13

    This marks the third straight impressive tackle class. The 2022 class is far more like the 2020 version than the one we saw a year ago. By that, I mean it’s top-heavy — you still want one of the top five tackles in this class and don’t want to be the team that reaches for the sixth (think Austin Jackson).

    You won’t find the kind of depth in Round 2 that saw six tackles come off the board from picks 39-53 a year ago, but you will find high-end starter potential at the top of the draft.

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    5. CORNERBACK

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 9

    This is one of the top-heaviest cornerback groups in recent memory. Depending on your scheme, Derek Stingley Jr.Ahmad “Sauce” Gardner and Trent McDuffie could all be seen as elite talents on team boards. All feature within the top-10 on the PFF board, as well.

    From there, it starts to drop off considerably, with only two more corners in the top 50. However, it does feature a couple of athletic marvels in UTSA’s Tariq Woolen and Sam Houston State’s Zyon McCollum, two of the freakier testers ever at the position.

    6. INTERIOR OFFENSIVE LINE

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 10

    What the tackle class lacks in depth, the interior line class more than makes up for. The interior class is swarming with talent in Rounds 3 and 4, and that’s not even considering some possible tackle converts currently grouped in the tackle figure above. It also has a couple of prototypes, with Zion Johnson atop the guard class and Tyler Linderbaum atop the center group.

    7. SAFETY

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 7

    This is the last position group in 2022 that has an above-average class compared to the previous seven drafts we’ve graded. It has a blue-chipper at the top in Kyle Hamilton. It has excellent plug-and-play depth into Day 2 with Lewis CineJaquan BriskerDaxton Hill and Jalen Pitre. There is also a good deal of athletic projects to work with. With a little something for everyone, it’s a good year to want a safety.

    8. DEFENSIVE TACKLE

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 5

    There may not be great depth to this class, but boy, are there some impact players at the top. Georgia is carrying the class on its back with DT1 (Devonte Wyatt) and DT2 (Jordan Davis) on not only PFF’s board but on pretty much every board you’ll find. While it’s a touch lacking throughout Day 2, even having a couple of first-rounders is a nice change of pace after none went in Round 1 last year.
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    9. RUNNING BACK

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 4

    This running back class slightly lacks depth, but there are still two plug-and-play starters at the top of the class in Kenneth Walker and Breece Hall. After that, there aren’t many candidates to feel great about coming in and handling a full-time workload. There are certainly strong contenders to play a certain role in an offense — such as Kyren Williams on third downs and Brian Robinson in short-yardage — but there are few do-it-all options.

    10. TIGHT END

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 2

    This was arguably the hardest position to rank in the class. In terms of serviceable talent that could see the field at the NFL level, it’s actually one of the deepest tight end classes in recent memory. In terms of prospects you are coveting as actual starters early on, it’s decidedly lacking.

    There isn’t a prospect in the class I’d take off the board before the third round, and that’s indicated by how few crack the top 100 on the PFF draft board.

    11. QUARTERBACK

    TOP-100 PLAYERS: 7

    While this class may have some depth, it lacks top-end talent more than any other quarterback class we’ve seen in our eight years of college grading. Due to positional value, the quarterback position gets a healthy bump on the PFF draft board. Even with that sizeable deference, the top quarterback in this class still only checks in at 22nd overall (Sam Howell).

    Maybe last place on this list is slightly harsh, but that lack of top-end talent is unlike any class we’ve seen in our eight years of college grading.

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    in reply to: Wagner has agreed to terms #138127
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    We’ve all seen the games and the frustrating times when a short pass/run combo would just work against them. I don’t think it will be that defense anymore.

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    @RamsNFL @Bwagz takes his talents to LA. His familiarity of the NFCW division cannot be undersold.
    Yeah there are so many good reasons for this signing. One is, the very thing I complained about with the Rams defense sometimes was sorely evident in 2 of their 3 games against SF last year. And Wagner knows the 9ers.
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    so i decided to see how ray lewis performed in his age 32 to age 36 seasons which are the years wags will be playing out with the rams.

    That was smart. Good idea.

    I honestly think BW makes this defense something fairly different from what most of us expected. (A good version of different.) It may be that they have to scheme up a pass rush and blitz more than we’re used to.

    We’ve all seen the games and the frustrating times when a short pass/run combo would just work against them. I don’t think it will be that defense anymore.

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    News4usonline.com@news4usonline
    Bobby Wagner (reportedly $50 million) saves the @RamsNFL about $70 million compared to what Von Miller got from the Buffalo Bills ($120 million). The Rams get an All-Pro defensive stuffer in Wagner for 5 years.
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    part of me wonders if this is all a push for the rams to succeed in the los angeles market.  i mean the nfl really wants the rams to succeed in la.

     

    That’s all true but it would not sound the same or have the same effect if the Rams weren’t actually pulling things off well.

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    Yes. He was kicked off the team because he attended a civil rights protest. The only place that would take him after that was Miss. Vocational College.

    Yes but what is rarely talked about is that Deacon was a Klan member and was there as a counter protester.

    You’re thinking of Hershell Walker.

    Real Rams fans know all about Deacon Jones. For example, he invented the term “punt.” Which shows pretty smart understanding of all aspects of the game. Not bad for a guy who just played offensive tackle his whole career.

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    The way Eisen talked about the Rams, I don’t remember them  ever  being talked about that way in previous decades. Not even the GSOT. The league was awestruck with the GSOT, but this is different. It’s like “the Rams are in the news so we will of course now enthusiastically talk about the really smart things they did this week. You know like they did last week.” With Eisen, it’s not just Wagner and Donald that get mentioned but Snead too. It’s like “and the Rams did another smart and good thing. Of course.”

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    First the set-up then the question. Rams drafted Deacon Jones in the 14th round in 1961. They spotted him on film because they were scouting another player, a running back for a team Jones played against. Scouts kept seeing Jones show up in the film. One reason Jones was so hidden from view is because he played for Mississippi Vocational College. 2 years before, he played for South Carolina State, but got kicked off the team. The question. Why did Jones get kicked off the South Carolina State team? .

    It was do to a Civil Rights protest, he attended.

    Yes. He was kicked off the team because he attended a civil rights protest. The only place that would take him after that was Miss. Vocational College.

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    So the Rams gave Von Miller a great offer and Miller stated he would have taken less to stay with the Rams, but instead held out until another team offered way more money and got money hungry. That makes zero sense
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