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    jourdan rodrigue wrote this article for the athletic. she’s usually not prone to hyperbole. and maybe i’m wrong but there seems to be a lot of hype building up around jones. having him and wagner in the middle could be a gamechanger for this defense. https://theathletic.com/3342600/2022/06/13/rams-ernest-jones-linebacker/?redirected=1

    ā€˜He’s different’: Inside Rams’ Ernest Jones’ journey toward NFL’s next great linebacker

    Jourdan Rodrigue

    THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. — Putting on full football gear is a meticulous act and, for many players, a well-practiced and mindless routine.

    For Ernest Jones, inserting knee and thigh pads, adjusting his socks to the right height, clipping the buckles on his shoulder pads and attending to a dozen other details is meditative. When equipment assistants offer to help with various clips and clasps, Jones politely declines. The act of putting himself together, piece by piece, is his own.

    ā€œIt’s an armor thing,ā€ Jones told The Athletic. ā€œI love that … I’m connected to every part of the game, even those little things that some people don’t worry about. It’s just something that I have to do that makes me go out there and perform at my best.ā€

    Jones is an inside linebacker. Inside linebackers in the Rams’ defensive scheme need to navigate the field effectively horizontally and vertically. They must play predictively — with a savvy diagnosis of the quarterback, whom they study while simultaneously moving through the most heavily trafficked portion of the field and finding the ball, whether the quarterback declares where he’s putting it or not. Inside linebackers used to play like rocks crashing into rocks, thudding painfully downhill into single gaps. Now, and in this particular defense, they must play like water flowing to that rock, weaving around and through whatever is in the way, then crashing, then smothering. To play like this means understanding space.

    That is what sets Jones apart, even as young as he is. He doesn’t see the lanes and leverages that develop around him once the ball is snapped as much as he feels them. He has an innate knowledge of space but also an ownership of it that is growing as he continues to mature as a player.

    ā€œMore so than seeing it, it’s more of a feel,ā€ he said. ā€œI can feel a lineman on my left side, where I may need to dip my shoulder or put out my arm. You see a little, but I more so feel, and that’s the way I navigate through it. I’m just weaving in and out, through it, just trying to get to the ball. That’s the majority of it: a feel.ā€

    As Jones puts on his equipment piece by piece, he believes he is also activating his connection to football, a ā€œflow stateā€ that eventually takes over his mind and body when he starts to play and allows him to command the space around him. Jones believes each small action is a bridge to the game he plays, which tethers him to it. It’s a striking consideration for someone so young. Jones is just 22 — even as a second-year player he is still among the youngest of his teammates — and in 2021 he was their youngest starter.

    Over a nine-month span last year, Jones rapidly ascended from late third-round draft pick to midyear starter to impact starter on the Rams’ star-studded roster. He recovered from a serious ankle injury — and in-season surgery — over a four-game period and ultimately recorded seven tackles (two for loss), defensed a pass and sacked Cincinnati quarterback Joe Burrow in the Rams’ Super Bowl win in mid-February.

    What does a person do next if they reach the mountaintop at just 22? For all of Jones’ understanding and connection to the space around him as he plays, what will he do with what is ahead of him?

    Rams Southeast area scout Michael Pierce was on a routine visit to check on a few senior players at South Carolina when Jones caught his attention.

    ā€œAll of the sudden, there’s a sophomore and you’re looking out there like: ā€˜Man, who is this linebacker who is so spirited and passionate? He’s competing, talking and chirping as a sophomore,ā€™ā€ Pierce said. ā€œWho is this guy?! Then you go in the building, and you don’t (usually) want to talk about underclassmen. But you’re like, ā€˜Hey, man, that No. 53, he stands out.ā€™ā€

    Pierce studied Jones closely after that. He could see he was raw, sure. But he was growing into his long arms and legs and huge hands, and Jones just kept coming at the more veteran players in competitive practices.

    ā€œAnd then you turn on the film, and you’re like: ā€˜Man, he’s so instinctive — so instinctive — so young. … He’s different from a lot of people on the field,ā€ Pierce said.

    Pierce and the Rams weren’t the only ones who recognized Jones’ potential as he developed into a team captain at South Carolina. Ira Turner, an Agency 1 agent who now represents Jones, remembers sitting on a couch across from Jones and his mother, Porsche Wells, in their home when he was working to sign Jones. Wells grilled Turner front, back and sideways as Jones fought to suppress a grin.

    ā€œHis mom is very particular about who is around her son,ā€ Turner said, laughing. ā€œWe had to go through the third degree with her!

    ā€œIt just was a fit. … Over (time), we’ve been able to build a bond. This is definitely family.ā€

    Their connection was immediate. Jones said meeting Turner felt like ā€œhome.ā€ Jones leaned on Turner as he went through what was, in his mind, a frustrating draft process. He declared for the 2021 NFL Draft with a year of eligibility left and didn’t test well during the pre-draft evaluation period. Jones’ Relative Athletic Score was a 6.39 out of 10, and multiple draft analysts predicted he would be a career backup player or special-teamer. Jones had a draft party with friends and family, and what started as a fun gathering turned into an excruciating wait as pick after pick went by.

    What Jones didn’t know was the Rams were hoping his less-than-flashy athletic testing numbers would help him fall to them late in the third round. General manager Les Snead, in particular, was hooked on Jones after watching his tape. The year before, the Rams found a late-round gem in safety Jordan Fuller, who didn’t test well but showed high football and emotional intelligence and was hardly ever out of position. Snead, Pierce and eventually defensive coordinator Raheem Morris and then-linebackers coach Chris Shula (coaches join the draft process near its end) saw similar traits in Jones. Fuller won a starting job in training camp as a rookie in 2020; the group of evaluators felt Jones could be an early starter, too.

    ā€œThis is an instinctive guy who is wired the right way,ā€ Pierce said. ā€œHe plays the game the right way. On top of that, he’s mature on and off the field. In my opinion, I thought he was a perfect fit for us because this guy, he wants to own this. He wants to be the owner of the defense. He wants to know it all. He wants to be the guy.ā€

    When the Rams sent in their pick for Jones at No. 103 — ā€œWe were shocked he was there,ā€ said Shula — it was with rare consensus agreement from the entire staff: the scouts and executives, the analysts and the coaches.

    ā€œIt was awesome seeing that he was on the board on that point because you never know where a guy like that goes,ā€ Pierce said. ā€œHim being there was like, ā€˜Yes.ā€˜ Absolutely. Everybody loved Ernest. … It’s pretty rare. You got 10 to 15 people watching these guys; you’re bound to have at least one person (disagree), which is totally fine. But yes, it’s rare to say that everybody feels like this guy can play for us and we’re excited, that we want him on our team. That’s pretty rare.ā€

    As Jones’ rookie season began, he was eager to contribute immediately, but he didn’t — at least not as a starter. The Rams were still exploring the more veteran linebacker Kenny Young’s fit in an evolving defense under Morris, and they didn’t want to suddenly pivot to Jones, who at the time was unproven. Turner often talked on the phone with Jones about staying ready, staying patient and not rushing his journey even as his then-21-year-old client ached to get on the field. By accident during a preseason game, Jones had gotten a taste of what his role could be when he called the first defensive series because the helmet microphone connected to Morris wasn’t working. And he wanted more.

    But it wasn’t until the Rams traded Young to the Broncos in late October that Jones knew his opportunity had come. Internally, sources said at the time, the personnel staff felt Jones was ready for more snaps, and that meant moving on from Young. Ultimately, that move began talks between Denver and Los Angeles about their major trade for Von Miller just a few days later. Jones’ readiness, the staff thought, was the hinge point in fast-tracking the conversation about Miller. If Jones hadn’t been ready, the Rams wouldn’t have opened dialogue with Denver about Young, then escalated it to Miller. It was a complicated feeling for Jones; he and Young got along well, but Jones was also consumed by a need to get on the field.

    ā€œThat was my first real big view of how the NFL works, the business (side),ā€ Jones said. ā€œOf course I hated it, just knowing Kenny and (he had) to just pack up everything, move everything — his family. That’s not something any of us want to see. … But I knew at that point in time that it was my time to do a job.ā€

    Turner called Jones to talk him through what he was feeling, then said: ā€œIt’s time to go. I know you’re ready.ā€

    Jones’ growth since the summer — and his effect on the Rams defense — was immediately apparent. He played 10 snaps on defense in an ugly Week 4 loss to Arizona, but his workload increased to 68 snaps against the Cardinals in Week 14. Against the small, slippery Kyler Murray, Jones’ long arms, big hands in throwing lanes and ability to manipulate and leverage the space in the middle of the field became a menace. He had seven tackles, tipped a pass and intercepted one, too (and returned it 31 yards). Coaches saw that while Jones still had a lot to learn about the NFL, his instinctive play and feel for flowing through and shedding stacks of massive players to get where he needed to go was something they couldn’t teach.

    ā€œHe’s truly, like, a modern-day old-school linebacker,ā€ Shula said. ā€œYou just don’t get in the way. Let him play.ā€

    ā€œSince I started playing linebacker, I just felt like I had a knack for weaving through and just being able to get to the ball, in a sense,ā€ Jones said, ā€œnot having to always fight through people or fight through traffic. … To be able to go around it or go through it in ways most people don’t.ā€

    In Week 16, Jones suffered a bad high ankle sprain. He chose to have surgery immediately, in hopes he could make a postseason return, but nothing was promised. And the rehab was brutal.

    ā€œRehab is stressful, just knowing that time is limited, and you just don’t want to have injuries and be off the field,ā€ Jones said. ā€œThere were tough days where I wanted to cry, where I did cry, just working through the movements and trying to get it back as strong as possible.

    ā€œI just knew that I wanted to get back out there and prove I could still come back and play and that I’m here for the team and want to do the best and want to be the best so that we could go out there and win.ā€

    Jones returned in time for the NFC Championship Game against San Francisco.

    ā€œComing back from a high ankle sprain, surgery, back in four weeks — I don’t even understand how you do that, first of all,ā€ Fuller said. ā€œBut the reason he was back is because of how he approaches everything he does. It’s a testament to him and what he’s made up of inside.ā€

    Against the 49ers, a still-recovering Jones played only about half of his usual snaps. As usual, he wanted more.

    ā€œEven in the weeks before that, I was already running. I was already feeling good,ā€ he said. ā€œI wanted to be back for that game, against that team.ā€

    Two weeks later, as the first quarter of the Super Bowl unfolded, Jones defensed a pass on fourth-and-1 that gave the Rams the ball back at midfield — they scored their first touchdown a few plays later. At halftime, Morris adjusted the game plan for Jones, allowing him to blitz more frequently through the rest of the game and stay on the field against the Bengals’ three-receiver sets. In the third quarter, Jones’ sack on Burrow for a 7-yard loss helped stall what had been a furious second-half comeback effort by the Bengals. Jones pushed his still-recovering body to its limits until late in the fourth quarter, when he had to hobble off the field after stopping running back Joe Mixon for a 3-yard loss and just before the Rams mounted their final go-ahead scoring drive.

    As the final score flashed on the massive video board at SoFi Stadium and the blue and yellow confetti fell, Jones limped toward the middle of the field. He fell to his knees, then pressed his forehead to the turf.

    In late March, the Rams added future Hall of Fame inside linebacker Bobby Wagner to their roster in free agency.

    Wagner, 31, has long been known for his ability to diagnose quarterbacks and offenses as the former defensive signal caller through the standout era of Seattle Seahawks football. The Rams, who historically do not financially invest in the inside linebacker position, aggressively pursued Wagner not only because they felt his presence would help keep them in postseason contention, but also because they saw an opportunity to push Jones, too.

    ā€œWhen he came for the visit (pre-signing), I got a call, and I was like: ā€˜Let’s get him. Let’s do what we gotta do and get him here to help us win it again,ā€™ā€ Jones said.

    Wagner was Jones’ favorite player growing up (and still is). Wagner is also a player whose traits, particularly his football IQ/EQ and how he negotiates space on the field, the Rams studied when building their pre-draft evaluation profile of Jones.

    ā€œHim being in the room every day and just watching him, it’s been amazing. It’s been the highlight of my career so far,ā€ Jones said. ā€œ(I’m) learning from someone who has done everything that I aspire to do: Pro Bowls, All-Pros, Super Bowls. He’s everything that I want to (be) and more.

    ā€œMan, he’s great. Just being able to watch him do the work. … We sit there and talk football all the time, but I’m more so visualizing, watching what he does throughout the day. Watch his stance. Watch his feet. Watch his hands, how his body moves. Just trying to perfect my craft and be one of the greatest, like he is.ā€

    Wagner laughed, and winced a little, when he first met Jones and realized Jones was born almost 10 years after him. Quickly, the two started sharing music (Wagner, a Los Angeles native, loves Kendrick Lamar, while Jones is trying to put him on to Rod Wave), and Jones teases Wagner for always wanting to play basketball — ā€œEven though he can’t, which I really don’t understand,ā€ Jones said, chuckling. When they take the field together, they are two generations of the linebacker position in action: the veteran and the young player who hopes he’s ready to receive the torch when it’s passed.

    ā€œHe has all of the attributes of a great linebacker. If I could do anything to help, I will,ā€ Wagner said. ā€œI think he’s a very special player, and he has a chance to be really, really good.ā€

    ā€œHe’s gonna be tired of me before it’s all said and done,ā€ added Jones, chuckling again. ā€œWe’re going to be connected at the hip. He’s gonna be aggravated with the questions I do ask. He’s a genius, for real. Just having him there, it’s truly going to take my game to the next level.ā€

    This spring, Jones’ hometown of Waycross, Ga., threw him a celebration day and parade after the Rams won the Super Bowl. Waycross is a ā€œFriday Night Lightsā€ town that shuts down its stores each week when Ware County High football plays because everybody’s at the game. Jones played on both sides of the ball back then. He was a long-armed, big-handed receiver before he grew out of the position and became a tight end, then picked up linebacker just over six years ago to maximize his playing time.

    ā€œI loved it, not coming off the field,ā€ he said. He now realizes he needed those extra snaps on a deeper level. His mother worked hard to support her family (and she never missed one of Jones’ practices or games), but times weren’t always easy. Some weeks, Jones wasn’t sure where they would stay or sleep.

    But football was a fixed point, a place of refuge. Further, it was something Jones understood even when he felt lost, unmoored or anxious. As he locked into his rhythm on the field, Jones created a space around him that he could always come back to. A place that was his.

    ā€œIt’s always been something I could always lean on,ā€ he said. ā€œWhen times weren’t the way I wanted them to be, just anything we could do (that was) about football — talking about it, playing it, looking at it, watching it — just gives me the joy to keep going …

    ā€œFootball is a safe place for me, to be able to get away from everything.ā€

    When Jones traveled back to Waycross for the town’s celebration, he was stunned and moved by the reception. It felt like he could share his special connection to football with his hometown and like his supporters really understood and valued it — valued him.

    ā€œSeeing everyone there, and mostly the kids, how much my name — me being from there and (achieving) such a big accomplishment — (meant) to them, that means the world to me,ā€ he said. ā€œAll the hard work that I put in really kind of made sense at that time.

    ā€œMy accomplishments are minor. To everyone else they may be major, but to me it’s just another thing that I’m trying to do, another stepping stone to a goal. But — it may be a soft spot for my town and the kids back there — just walking down the auditorium and just seeing everybody in there, seeing (kids who) didn’t look like me but who were happy and supportive of what I did. … It was a bunch of different races; everyone came together for me. I never thought I would be in the position where I’m bringing people together like that. It made me feel like I was doing something positive and in the right direction.ā€

    This month, the Rams finished their spring practices in preparation for the season ahead. During seven-on-seven and installation periods, Jones and Wagner ebbed and surged together as they tracked the quarterback and the ball, studying eyes and shoulders and angles and leverages and gaps. Studying and feeling space.

    Jones recently changed his jersey number from 50 to 53, in homage to his college days. In the sticky, pressing air of summer practices in Columbia, S.C., Jones took the required steps to blossom into that leader and team captain who first stuck out to Pierce — the player who had the tenacity to throw himself into the unknown of the NFL a year early because he believed he could meet all of the expectations that came next, because it was football and he knows football in a way he still sometimes can’t explain. He just feels it.

    Perhaps by changing his number, Jones is reaching back in a way after accomplishing something in his rookie season that so few NFL players achieve in their entire careers. Changing back to No. 53 is about forming yet another tether to the game he loves, but perhaps he is also connecting to his former self who didn’t yet know what the confetti would look like as it fell, who wasn’t yet the hero of the young kids in his hometown. Back when Jones wore No. 53, growing was the entire point. He has a ring. Now, it’s time to see what he can become next.

    Soon, Jones will buckle back into his full pads for the first game of just his second season, with so much already behind him and yet everything before him. Jones can’t see the exact steps just yet, but he trusts he’ll feel them. He trusts he’ll meet them.

    Click. He’ll wrap his fingers around one buckle, and then another. Click.

    Then, the space around Jones — and the space ahead of him — becomes his to explore.

     

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    Connor Hox@connor_hox
    Per source update on the OBJ and@RamsNFL situation: ā€œPersonally,I’d be surprised if we don’t get the OBJ deal next week. It’s supposed to be this month.ā€
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    Breer gets it. You can’t lock up stars the way the Rams do unless you know how to pick and coach up lower round picks to fill the spots around those stars. If you look back into draft history, the Rams have never drafted this well in the lower rounds before.

    Breer:

    • How Snead’s staff has worked with McVay on building the roster shouldn’t be undersold, either. Drafting, developing and starting guys like David Edwards, Brian Allen, Darious Williams and Jordan Fuller on rookie deals creates financial flexibility for stars. And having a Nick Scott to step in for Fuller or a Kendall Blanton to step in for Tyler Higbee in the Super Bowl keeps spending under control, too, and that sort of depth allows the team to let guys like Williams walk, with comp picks coming back in return to keep the cycle going.

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    The Rams’ Strategy in Signing Their Trio of Stars

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/06/10/rams-superstar-contracts-stafford-donald-kupp

    A look at how the Matthew Stafford, Aaron Donald and Cooper Kupp deals got done in a way that made the players happy and keeps some flexibility for the team.

    ALBERT BREER

    Sean McVay can enjoy his honeymoon. And Kevin Demoff, Les Snead and Tony Pastoors can put their phones down for vacation.

    The Super Bowl champions sent their players on their way Thursday, having, over the course of the last week, effectively closed for business for the summer. Matthew Stafford got his deal in March, Aaron Donald’s came Monday and Cooper Kupp’s was signed midweek. Thus the three heroes of Feb. 13 can go, like the brain trust, away in peace.

    That’s, of course, because all three of those guys got paid, becoming the first trio of teammates in NFL history to cross the $25 million per year threshold together (there are only 18 players total among the other 31 teams making that much). It’s also because, on the other end, an offseason-long process is complete. But just as much, it’s because it happened with everyone together taking ownership in extending the team’s championship window.

    ā€œThere was a lot of trust involved at the end of the day,ā€ Kupp said as he drove home on Thursday, with his offseason program complete. ā€œThere was a lot of trust involved on each side, that we wouldn’t come to this place and treat it like a negotiation at all. We tried to have a conversation and figure out what it looks like for them, balancing the things that were important for them and the things that were important for us.

    ā€œAnd how can we get to a place where we’re, at the end, both shaking hands and feeling good, both feeling good about what we have ahead of us? We were able to have that conversation, and it’s not writing a number on a piece of paper and just passing it back and forth until you whittle each other down. The collaborative approach, to me, just allowed us to fully understand it and find that place.ā€

    Which, in turn, leaves the Rams in a great place as they ready to open their title defense.

    In this week’s GamePlan, we’ll take a closer look at how Demoff, McVay, Pastoors and Snead got there, and how Donald, Kupp and Stafford played their parts.

    This story for the Rams started with the COO (Demoff), GM (Snead), chief negotiator (Pastoors) and coach (McVay) having their annual offsite, days after winning the franchise’s first Super Bowl in two decades. It took place at the Westlake Four Seasons, 10 miles southeast of the team’s facility, and, as is always the case, just about everything was on the agenda—from airline charters to buses to training camp to community and sponsorship commitments to the football stuff—to review 2021 and plan on for ’22.

    At the top of the list was one item they’d been charting a course on for more than a year and two more they were less prepared for.

    The Rams knew Stafford’s deal would have to be addressed this offseason pretty much the second they dealt for him in January 2021. The brass also thought, by then, it was possible that Donald might want a bump in ’22. Kupp’s contract, on the other hand, wasn’t really on the radar, with a three-year extension having been done less than two years earlier.

    The Super Bowl changed things. Stafford still needed his deal and now was cemented in the upper echelon at the most important position in sports. The three-time DPOY Donald’s career had its capstone (a ring and the biggest play made on the biggest stage) and, at 31, the idea he could walk away had become real. And Kupp’s record 145-catch, 1,947-yard, 16-touchdown season and starring role in the fourth quarter of February’s dramatic win over the Bengals necessitated a market correction of his deal.

    Perception has held that the Rams handed those guys blank checks. The truth is closer to this—they tried to ascertain each player’s priorities, then worked around those to allow for enough flexibility to keep building as aggressively as L.A. has over the last few years.

    ā€œTo me, there’s an element of what I knew,ā€ Kupp said. ā€œAs you’re going forward, and you’re planning, you have a family and you’re planning financially going forward for how our family’s gonna operate, knowing what was going to be there. So for me, the guarantee, the structure of how that was going to be done was what was important to me, so that I felt like I knew I could provide some stability for my family in terms of where we’re gonna be and what the future was going to look like for us going forward.

    ā€œAnd this being in an industry and a sport where there’s a lot of turnover and there’s a lot of instability, that’s what was most important.ā€

    With that knowledge, and finding out what Stafford and Donald wanted, deals were built.

    Stafford’s situation might’ve been the simplest one. He wanted a fair market deal without much concern about topping the previous market rate. The fact that Deshaun Watson signed his fully guaranteed, five-year, $230 million deal as Stafford’s was coming down the stretch, to be sure, could’ve poisoned the Rams’ talks with their quarterback. It didn’t. Stafford’s four-year, $160 million extension was completed 48 hours later.

    Donald’s might’ve been the most complex of the three. Through the offseason, he and McVay were in close contact, with McVay’s message straightforward: If you have a burning desire to play and want to do this, we’re going to figure it out. If you’re not sure your heart’s in it, we’ll have a different discussion. Ultimately, Donald wound up telling McVay he wanted back in, and he got a groundbreaking $40 million raise on the three years he had left on his existing deal, without having to add any term to the contract, for his troubles.

    Kupp’s deal might’ve been most interesting, because of what he knew. He’ll play it off now. ā€œIt’s not research as much as Bleacher Report pops up, and you see what guys are getting,ā€ he said. ā€œI’m really happy for these guys. I think I touched on it before. I’m really glad that there are guys that have worked for a long time that are getting paid. I think that’s a great thing, taking care of their families, securing their children, their children’s children; I think that’s just such a cool thing. There wasn’t a whole lot of knowledge I needed to have.ā€

    But those in the room say he was savvy as an agent, with a keen understanding of the funding rules that would wind up being a driving factor in the negotiations. And ultimately, as he said, it helped him work in collaboration with the Rams on a three-year, $80 million extension that paid as one of the game’s best at his position, which he so clearly proved he is over the last 12 months.

    On paper, you can add this up and ask where the compromise was on the player’s side.

    Let’s explain that.

    On the surface, the contracts look like market-topping deals for two guys in their 30s and another for one who’s 12 months away from turning 30, the kind that might handcuff a team for years if the players wind up going the wrong way. But digging into the details on them, you’ll see that the way they were structured allows for the Rams to continue to build at a breakneck neck pace around those three and Jalen Ramsey. Here are the keys to them.

    • Stafford’s deal had $63 million fully guaranteed, a number that falls far short of, of course, Watson, but also Aaron Rodgers, Josh Allen and Dak Prescott, who did deals in the last year with at or close to $100 million guaranteed. Kupp’s deal has $35 million fully guaranteed, short of what Tyreek Hill, Stefon Diggs, DeAndre Hopkins, Davante Adams, D.J. Moore, Chris Godwin, Amari Cooper and even Christian Kirk got. Even Donald’s deal had just $46.5 million fully guaranteed.

    Why does that matter? Because every full guaranteed dollar that isn’t paid by next March would, at that point, have to go into an escrow account with the league. That would affect the Rams’ cash flow in 2023. So getting creative with the guarantees and minimizing what has to be funded next spring opens the Rams up for spending come March, and allows them to keep working like they did this year to get guys like Allen Robinson and Bobby Wagner.

    • Another trade-off in the Stafford and Kupp deals: The players worked collaboratively with the team to stay from the very top of the market with each player. Stafford signed after Rodgers and is making more than $10 million per year less than his old NFC North rival. Kupp’s APY ($26.67 million) falls short of Hill’s, Adams’s and Hopkins’s, and beats out A.J. Brown’s and Diggs’s.

    Donald’s deal is another animal, because, well, Donald’s different from the rest. The Rams were O.K. doing his that way for two reasons. One, if Donald was truly willing to walk away (the Rams did believe he was actually torn on coming back earlier in the offseason), holding precedent wasn’t worth losing a player the team is built around. And two, very few players could use that precedent against the Rams.

    In fact, at one point last week, an exec from a rival team asked a Rams official about that. The Rams official’s response, roughly: ā€œFor a seven-time All-Pro, three-time Defensive Player of the Year and surefire first-ballot Hall of Famers, we have absolutely changed our precedent. And the next time we have one of those, we’ll treat him the exact same way.ā€

    • The players get theirs too, with logical things, the things Kupp mentioned, emphasized in these deals. Cash flow is the first thing. Over the next three years, Stafford, Donald and Kupp will pull down a total of $285 million. Stafford was going to make $23 million on the last year of his old contract. He’ll now make $120 million over the next three years, meaning he’s adding $97 million in new money over two new contractual years. Donald gets $95 million the next three years. Kupp get $70 million between now and 2024, which beats the cash flow of Adams and is just short of Hill (who was in a contract year).

    And in place of guarantees at signing, Stafford and Kupp have future years with guarantees that vest early, basically locking in the team to the player, from a practical standpoint, while skirting the funding rule.

    • What does this mean for the salary cap? It’s possible, in a few years, the Rams might have to take a reset year of cap reckoning, like the Bills did in 2018 or the Falcons are taking this year. And if that’s the cost for competing for Lombardi trophies with the current core, they’re totally fine with that.

    But the tone McVay’s set in his five years, with his stated goal of contending for a title every year, is one where constant evolution is necessary. This is apparent in how the Rams have managed turnover on his staff, and tinkered with it plenty on their own, and also how the roster is always changing. (Only 12 players were on both the Super Bowl LIII and LVI rosters for the Rams; and just three of those guys, Andrew Whitworth, Rob Havenstein and Donald, started both games.) Similar evolution happens with the team’s cap management.

    So how Pastoors, one of the NFL’s best in his role, worked with Ryan Tollner on the Kupp deal, Todd France on the Donald deal, or Jimmy Sexton and Tom Condon on the Stafford deal, might be different than how he handled, say, Jared Goff’s contract in 2019. And that the players worked with their agents to allow for them is not a small thing.

    • How Snead’s staff has worked with McVay on building the roster shouldn’t be undersold, either. Drafting, developing and starting guys like David Edwards, Brian Allen, Darious Williams and Jordan Fuller on rookie deals creates financial flexibility for stars. And having a Nick Scott to step in for Fuller or a Kendall Blanton to step in for Tyler Higbee in the Super Bowl keeps spending under control, too, and that sort of depth allows the team to let guys like Williams walk, with comp picks coming back in return to keep the cycle going.

    The ā€œEff Them Picksā€ meme? It works nicely if you’re filling out your roster with a lot of guys outside of the first round. And if there are holes thereafter, now, the lure of getting to play for McVay, and in L.A., and maybe getting a gravy-train ring while you’re at it can allow for veteran bargains like Odell Beckham Jr. to happen.

    The totality of this whole situation is players like Stafford, Donald and Kupp feeling like partners in the pursuit of more titles, ā€œwhich,ā€ one club official pointed out this week, ā€œthey are.ā€

    And that, as they go away for about a month, has all three pretty excited for what’ll be waiting for them when they get back.

    ā€œYou get that itch to come back, the challenge that this presents, it’s an incredible thing,ā€ Kupp said. ā€œAnd there’s no time to settle in. There’s no time to be complacent. It didn’t feel like there was even too much time really to even celebrate. It was, We gotta get our bodies turned over and get ready for another round of this thing. We know there’s so much we could do better, and that’s a beautiful thing to have, when you’ve got a bunch of guys that, no matter how much you’ve achieved, no matter how good you were able to be, there’s always more.

    ā€œBeing able to have and understand that is a pretty special thing.ā€

    And it puts everyone in L.A. in a pretty great place, with a camp six weeks away.

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    if the rams can keep their egos in check. and if they can have luck with injuries. this team could do some good things the next three years.

    I was thinking about the way McV berated Goff in 2021 and messed with his confidence. McV seemed to be aware of this after the trade and confessed that he had issues communicating. When they traded for Stafford I said one of the advantages of having a great veteran qb was that McV would be more collaborative and listen better. McV showed signs of going that direction when he lamented that he wasn’t the best communicator in 2021 and seemed to actually regret it. As it turns out as Kupp’s remarks above indicate, McV really did become more collaborative. I think it was a combo of having a veteran qb he would be stupid not to listen to, and at the same time McV kind of lamenting the way he was in 2021 and knowing he had to change.

    I don’t know how much of that I got right, but, still, it was nice to read Kupp and see I wasn’t hallucinating all of that.

     

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    Remember the Bengals’ great DL play from the superbowl.

    This is from the AFC playoffs.

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    Key takeaways from the Jan. 6 committee’s primetime hearing

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jun/10/key-takeaways-jan-6-committees-primetime-hearing/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3KX6MltAIBtk-jD1UJ5LkNaibby-2mO2pSiE6OLOLkVwJq2Gt8URjXmQk#Echobox=1654836298

    Members of the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol had said they would document a conspiracy to overturn the 2020 presidential election, with President Donald Trump sitting in the very center.

    During its first primetime hearing, the committee’s presentation emphasized that Trump — contrary to every public statement he made, every tweet he sent, every plea he made to his supporters — knew that he had lost the 2020 election.

    In video after video, the committee showed an array of people who had told Trump that he lost.

    There was Trump’s own Attorney General William Barr, the country’s top law enforcement officer. Barr talked to Trump on Nov. 23, Dec. 1 and Dec. 14.

    “I made it clear I did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff, which I told the president was bull—-. And I didn’t want to be a part of it,” Barr said in an interview.

    Trump’s senior re-election campaign adviser Jason Miller described a scene shortly after the election.

    “I was in the Oval Office and at some point in the conversation, the lead data person was brought in and I remember he delivered to the president in pretty blunt terms that he was going to lose,” Miller said.

    A campaign lawyer told how he had reported back to White House chief of staff Mark Meadows that no allegation of significant fraud held up.

    Not even Trump’s daughter Ivanka said she believed the lie of a stolen election. She said she respected Barr, “so, I accepted what he was saying.”

    And yet, despite the chorus of voices, Trump insisted the opposite was true.

    “Donald Trump and his advisers knew that he had, in fact, lost the election,” said committee vice chair Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo. “But despite this, President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to convince huge portions of the U.S. population that fraud had stolen the election from him.”

    And on the basis of that lie, Cheney said, people stormed the Capitol.

    Perhaps the most emotionally compelling moment of the evening was the testimony of Capitol Police officer Caroline Edwards. The chaos of the assault has been seen many times, but Edwards was there at the first breach of the Capitol perimeter. She was knocked unconscious, recovered and ran to hold the rioters as they came up the Senate steps.

    At one moment, Edwards turned and took in the scene around her.

    “I could not believe my eyes,” Edwards said. “There were officers on the ground. They were bleeding, they were throwing up. I saw friends with blood all over their faces. I was slipping in people’s blood. I was catching people as they fell. It was carnage. It was chaos.”

    And in keeping with the committee’s theme that Trump denies the reality of everything around the election, the committee played an excerpt from a Fox News interview he gave July 11, 2021.

    “These were peaceful people, these were great people,” Trump said. “The crowd was unbelievable. I mentioned the word love, the love in the air, I’ve never seen anything like it.”

    The pivotal role of the Proud Boys
    The Proud Boys were a well-armed, organized group that were the first to breach the police line at the Capitol.

    They were the first to shatter a window that gave the crowd free access to enter and roam through the building.

    In a recent indictment, the group’s leader and four others were charged with seditious conspiracy. In the weeks before the attack, the group assembled paramilitary gear and supplies, including concealed tactical vests, protective equipment, and radio equipment.

    What the committee added was video and testimony from documentary filmmaker Nick Quested, who was with the Proud Boys that morning. Quested said he was with about 200 Proud Boys who made their way up to the Capitol.

    One thing caught Quested off-guard. He met up with the group at 10:30 in the morning, well before Trump spoke at the rally on the White House Ellipse.

    “They were starting to walk towards the Capital,” Quested said. “There was a large contingent, more than I would expect, and I was confused to a certain extent. Why we were walking away from the president’s speech, because that is what I felt we were there to cover.”

    But as the government’s indictment made clear, as did video clips from members of the Proud Boys themselves, they weren’t there to listen to Trump. They were there to assault the Capitol.

    Cheney said the next hearings, coming up June 13 and June 15, will focus on Trump’s efforts to convince Americans that he really won the election and his attempts to replace the attorney general.

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    I don’t think it happens but if Watson never plays again and the Browns threw 3 1st Round Picks in the trash while also ruining relations with their own starting Quarterback, that would be a level of failure that I don’t think we’ll ever see in professional sports again.
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    in spite of appearances this vid is about cash v. cap stuff. It fits the thread.

     

    THE HERD | Colin Cowherd reacts Rams and Cooper Kupp agree to 3 years/$80M extension

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