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znModerator1 sack in 915 pass pro snaps!! Hold on Ramily he might be HIM. https://t.co/SiaJ2RZFl4
— Rams Tapes (@RamsTapes) April 28, 2023
znModeratorRams pick No. 36, iOL Steve Avila, gave up zero sacks in 2022.
In the run game? “He is in the business of moving people.”
More: https://t.co/27qzzPyeDG— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) April 29, 2023
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueWords scouts we just spoke with just used about Kobie Turner: “Obsessed, relentless, havoc-creator, no setbacks (in development so far), hustling, nobody will work harder, smart, competitive, tough.”
znModeratorThe Rams made three picks on Friday night, all of which were along the offensive and defensive fronts. How did they do? https://t.co/vnrBNne6qz
— Rams Wire (@TheRamsWire) April 29, 2023
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znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueKobie Turner on playing with Aaron Donald: “it’s insane.” He adds that he’s undersized and always has been. So he watched and studied for years how Donald uses his hands and how he puts together his setups and leverage work..Sosa Kremenjas@QBsMVPAmong DT’s that are draft eligible this year, Kobie Turner ranked pretty damn well in 2022 (per @PFF , 100-plus snaps): – 3rd-highest PFF grade (92.2) – 93.1 run-defense grade (1st) – 88.8 pass-rush grade (5th) – 3 sacks (26th) – 34 pressures (6th) This is really impressive.
znModeratorThe Rams took Wake Forest DT Kobie Turner at No. 89 overall, continuing to fortify the trenches https://t.co/d8lfPl630k
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) April 29, 2023
znModeratorKOBIE TURNER | Wake Forest 6024 | 293 lbs. | 6SR Clifton, Va. (Centreville) 4/26/1999 (age 24.00) #0
BACKGROUND: Kobie Turner, who is one of four children, grew up in Clifton with two main passions: football and music. He started out with flag football and then pee-wee and youth-level football. Turner attended Centreville High School and played on the JV team as a freshman. He moved up to varsity as a sophomore, seeing snaps at tight end and middle linebacker as Centreville advanced to the 2014 state title game with a 12-3 record. Turner became a starter as a junior, primarily as a blocking tight end and linebacker. As a senior, he earned second team all-state and first team all-region as both a defensive end and tight end, accounting for 70 tackles and one forced fumble. Turner starting singing in choir in middle school and also learned how to play the guitar, piano and drums. He earned all-state honors in chorus as a senior in 2017. A no-star recruit out of high school, Turner wasn’t ranked by the online recruiting services and went overlooked by college programs. Instead of attending recruiting camps his junior year, he was more focused on his music. His high school teammate and cousin (Caleb Brooks) signed with Richmond in the 2017 class and Turner was introduced to the Spiders’ coaching staff, who extended an offer to walk on. He planned to give football one year to see what happened and ended up earning a scholarship less than a year on campus. Turner also sang baritone for Richmond’s music department Schola Cantorum choir. Looking to challenge himself against better competition, he earned his undergrad degree at Richmond and entered the transfer portal after the 2021 season. He considered offers from Georgia Tech and Virginia Tech before committing to Wake Forest. His older brother (AJ) was a running back and defensive back at South Carolina (2015-19). Turner accepted his invitation to the 2023 East-West Shrine Bowl.
YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF PD INT NOTES
2017: Redshirted Richmond
2018: (11/0) 5 2.5 1.5 0 0 0 Richmond
2019: (12/12) 71 14.5 7.0 1 0 0 Richmond; Third Team All-CAA; led team in TFL; Blocked XP
2020: (4/4) 19 6.0 3.5 1 0 0 Richmond; First team All-CAA; CAA Defensive POY; Team captain; Season played in 2021 spring
2021: (11/11) 54 10.5 4.0 2 0 0 Richmond; Second team All-American; First team All-CAA; 2 FR TDs
2022: (13/0) 38 10.0 2.0 3 2 0 Wake Forest; Third Team All-ACC; Led team in FFs
Total: (51/27) 187 43.5 18.0 7 2 0HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP
COMBINE N/A (not invited)
PRO DAY 6024 293 31 3/8 10 1/4 76 3/4 – – – – 8’0” 4.49 7.08 31STRENGTHS: Plays with outstanding balance, flexibility and grip strength at contact … extends and punches off blocks while maintaining body control to slip through gaps … rips, tugs and uses whatever else he can find in his bag of tricks to break down the rhythm of blockers … impressive short-area quickness to operate in constricted spaces … small-framed for an interior player, but has good musculature throughout his body … efficient play recognition skills and doesn’t lose sight of the football … credited with four batted passes in 2022 … competes hard and plays with reckless abandon … his teammates and coaches rave about his work ethic and drive (on and off the field) … consistent backfield production since he entered the starting lineup.
WEAKNESSES: Owns a tweener frame with only average length … will have a tough time against long-armed blockers who get into his chest … his hands are heavy and hungry, but too inconsistent with their placement … inconsistent fundamentals taking on doubles … needs to stay square when working laterally and will occasionally sacrifice his positioning to make a play … needs to continue refining his pass rush repertoire and overall timing … wasn’t a starter in his one season at the FBS level (and registered only two sacks) … will be 24 on draft weekend.
SUMMARY: A reserve in his one season at Wake Forest, Turner lined up primarily over the B-gap in defensive coordinator Brad Lambert’s scheme. A former walk-on at Richmond, he was an FCS All-American before transferring to Wake Forest for his final season where he was part of the defensive line rotation (averaged 40.2 defensive snaps per game in 2022). Nicknamed “The Conductor” for his disruptive skills and burgeoning music career, Turner stays balanced through congestion and his gas tank is never on “E” (accounted for 41 tackles for loss over 40 games played the last four seasons). He plays much stronger than his listed weight, but might struggle against NFL length and power. Turner is a tad undersized and is guilty of freelancing out of his run fits, but he plays with bouncy feet, forceful hands and affects the game with his relentless effort. He projects as a rotational 3-technique in the NFL with potential to be more.
znModeratorRams Brothers@RamsBrothersYES. We loved Kobie Turner. Going to rush the passer opposite of Aaron Donald, who will absolutely help to refine his technique. Love love that we’re supporting Donald. Had a 4th round grade on him and wanted to see them go with some of our best available, but happy with it!.Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueFrom our analysis on DL Kobie Turner, the Rams’ pick at No. 89: “Relentless, bouncy on his feet, great balance and flexibility and fantastic work ethic.” Adds Turner plays “much stronger” than his listed weight of 293. Nickname is apparently “The Conductor” for his music ability.
znModeratorKobie Turner DT selected, people predicted him in the 5th round, rams picked him up in the 3rd. pic.twitter.com/WoVuwbg4HP
— Rams Tapes (@RamsTapes) April 29, 2023
znModerator𝗣𝗜𝗖𝗞 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗡: With pick 89 overall in the 2023 NFL Draft, the #Rams are selecting DT Kobie Turner
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) April 29, 2023
znModeratorHere’s our analysis of Pick No. 36, TCU guard Steve Avila: pic.twitter.com/TIl4tWBSGH
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) April 28, 2023
znModeratorJ.B. Long@JB_LongNice little sequence there. Rams upgrade a 6th by almost a full round and add a late 4th to their portfolio… while still addressing a priority with an EDGE at pick 77 who ran 4.43..Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueByron Young mentions his ghost rush as one of his favorite pass-rush moves. Who does he model it after? “Von Miller”.
znModeratorAt No. 77 overall, the Rams took Tennessee edge rusher Byron Young
Let's go! Love this pick https://t.co/vg9x0cBYSB
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) April 29, 2023
znModeratorThe Rams also drafted a Tennessee pass-rusher in the 3rd round in 1998.
It was Leonard Little, who has the 2nd-most sacks in franchise history. pic.twitter.com/ihvNM5Su6G
— Greg Beacham (@gregbeacham) April 29, 2023
znModeratorNew Rams OLB Byron Young's story is a must-read. pic.twitter.com/6jApclUOeQ
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) April 29, 2023
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znModerator— Hillbilly Bopper (@bopper_2) April 29, 2023
znModeratorPARAMRiddick showed some great stuff. Fast, quick off the snap, pursuit, high motor.
znModeratorBYRON YOUNG | Tennessee 6023 | 250 lbs. | 5SR Georgetown, S.C. (Carvers Bay) 3/13/1998 (age 25.12) #6
BACKGROUND: Byron Young, who is one of three children, was born and raised in Georgetown (coastal city 60 miles north of Charleston). He attended Carvers Bay High School in Hemingway, S.C., where he was a four-year letterman. Young played on all three phases in high school as a 215-pound running back, defensive end and kick returner. As a senior in 2016, he received 2A All-State honors. A no-star recruit, Young wasn’t ranked by online recruiting services and didn’t have the grades to attend a Division I school. In 2017, he enrolled at a Gulf Coast Sports Academy, a postgraduate school in Mount Vernon, Ala., to get his academics back on track. However, he left after a few months as the program started to disband. Young moved to Columbus, Ga., where he worked as the assistant manager at a Dollar General Store for 18 months. After seeing a flier for tryouts, he joined the football team at Georgia Military College in spring of 2019 and rediscovered his love for the sport. As a freshman in 2019, Young (who also worked at Circle K to make ends meet) finished with 31 tackles, 11.0 tackles for loss and 7.0 sacks. The 2020 season was canceled because of the pandemic, but Young produced enough tape to be a three-star juco recruit and the No. 1 ranked juco edge rusher in the 2021 recruiting class. In the fall of 2020, Young received offers from Auburn, Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. He graduated with his associate’s degree in November and signed with the Volunteers in December. Young was ruled ineligible for the first two games of the 2021 season because of his short stint at postgraduate school in 2017. He accepted his invitation to the 2023 Senior Bowl.
YEAR (GP/GS) TKLS TFL SACK FF PD INT NOTES
2017: Gulf Coast Sports Academy (Ala.) Only played in two games before leaving the program
2018: Out of football
2019: Georgia Military College
2020: Georgia Military College Season was canceled (COVID), but he practiced with the team
2021: (11/8) 46 11.5 5.5 0 2 1 Tennessee; Led team in TFL, sacks; Enrolled in January 2021; Missed first two games (ruled ineligible)
2022: (13/13) 37 12.0 7.0 0 0 0 Tennessee; First Team All-SEC; Led team in sacks
Total: (24/21) 83 23.5 12.5 0 2 1HT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP
COMBINE 6023 250 32 1/2 9 1/4 79 1/8 4.40 2.58 1.54 38 11’0” – 7.19 22 (no shuttle – leg cramp when warming up)
PRO DAY 6024 252 – – – – – – – – – – – (position drills only – choice)STRENGTHS: Rushes with athletic twitch and a quick first step … understands rush depth and angles to stress offensive tackles in space … physical swipe/rip moves to knock away the reach of blockers and grease the edge … exceptional quickness on loops and stunts … picks up steam as a bull rusher, slams his hands into blockers and drives his legs to create movement … relentless motor and flashes chase speed from the backside … has the ball GPS to alter his rush path and find a new track to the football … has experience dropping in space to cover screens … every coach along his unique journey singles out his drive and determination … posted doubledigit tackles for loss in his two seasons in Knoxville.
WEAKNESSES: His frame is limber but undersized and lacks desired length … rudimentary rush setup and doesn’t always have a plan … tends to mistime his swipe moves … hands are aggressive, but they bring more pop than creativity … unimaginative counter measures … physical at the point of attack in the run game but doesn’t own it and struggles to set the edge … will lose leverage in space as a run defender … questionable peripherals and gets locked in on the football … older player and is already 25 … doesn’t have the framework of an every-down player.
SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Tennessee, Young played boundary defensive end (LEO role) in defensive coordinator Tim Banks’ 4-3 base, standing up and rushing with his hand on the ground. He’s had a winding football journey since high school, including two years working at a Dollar General and Circle K to support himself while he got his football career back on track. A “wind him up and let him loose” type of rusher, Young is an explosive, hard charger and at his best on T/E stunts because of the balance and quickness to stay on his rush path. However, he is undersized and, his role will be limited at the next level because of his deficiencies in closed areas. Overall, Young can be engulfed in the run game, and his rush stalls too quickly at contact, but his energy and pass-rush flashes lead to backfield plays. Though he has limitations in the run game, he has the potential to make a living as a glorified sub-rusher in the NFL.
GRADE: 3rd-4th Round
znModerator𝗣𝗜𝗖𝗞 𝗜𝗦 𝗜𝗡: With pick 77 overall in the 2023 NFL Draft, the #Rams are selecting EDGE Byron Young. pic.twitter.com/P9GhhPP5iL
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) April 29, 2023
znModeratorSteve Avila 2022 stats:
0 Sacks Allowed
10 Pressures Allowed
2 Penalties pic.twitter.com/GU7AhPENtZ— HoldenCantor (@HoldenCantor) April 28, 2023
znModeratorAvila says he can play LG, RG, C and even RT if needed, as he started his college career on scout team there and played two games at the position. https://t.co/1203qmWgQe
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) April 29, 2023
znModerator🦾 @RamsNFL just got the best IOL in the draft with @Stevelavila
— Duke Manyweather (@BigDuke50) April 28, 2023
znModeratorSTEVE AVILA | TCU 6034 | 332 lbs. | 5SR Arlington, Texas (South Grand Prairie) 10/16/1999 (age 23.53) #79
BACKGROUND: Esteban “Steve” Avila (AH-vee-la) grew up in Arlington and started playing football at the youth level. He enrolled at South Grand Prairie High School, where he was teammates with teammates with cornerback Jeff Okudah. Avila became the starting left tackle as a sophomore and was recognized as one of the top blockers in the district. He earned first team All-Conference as a junior while also playing at defensive end. Avila again earned All-Conference as a senior and led South Grand Prairie to the playoffs, where they ran into Allen, the eventual state champions. A three-star recruit, Avila was the No. 44 offensive guard in the 2018 recruiting class and the No. 151 recruit in Texas. After his junior season, he picked up offers from Kansas State, North Texas, TCU and Utah. But Avila credited the “family” atmosphere in Fort Worth as the reason he committed to former head coach Gary Patterson in March 2017. Avila was part of the same TCU recruiting class as Trevon Moehrig, Ar’Darius Washington, and his high school teammate Atanza Vongor. He graduated with his bachelor’s degree (May 2022). Avila accepted his invitation to the 2023 Senior Bowl.
YEAR (GP/GS) POSITION NOTES
2018: Redshirted
2019: (11/0)
2020: (9/9) 6 OC, 2 RT, 1 RG Honorable Mention All-Big 12
2021: (12/11) OC Second Team All-Big 12
2022: (15/15) LG Consensus All-American; First Team All-Big 12
Total: (47/35) 17 OC, 15 LG, 2 RT, 1 RGHT WT ARM HAND WING 40-YD 20-YD 10-YD VJ BJ SS 3C BP
COMBINE 6034 332 33 9 1/4 78 5.21 2.97 1.79 29 1/2 8’2” 4.74 7.85 28
PRO DAY 6033 332 33 3/4 9 79 7/8 – – – – – – – – (position drills only – choice)STRENGTHS: Big-bodied blocker and engulfs rushers at the point of attack … doesn’t allow his base to narrow and pulls rushers into his tractor beam … shows off his brick hands to create knockback when his punch connects … uses his body quicks to mirror and ride pass rushers away from the play (zero holding penalties in 2022) … showed improvements with his ability to reset or make adjustments mid-engagement … has the processing to identify delayed blitzes or stone stunts … shows power in his hands to latch and move bodies in the run game … mobile enough to seal backside pulls and execute short pulls … always looking for work and plays with attitude … started at least one game at four different offensive line positions over the last three seasons (every spot except left tackle) … most of his college snaps came at center, and he has legitimate position flexibility … didn’t give up a sack in 2022.
WEAKNESSES: Efficient in his setup but not explosive … has a tendency to forget his feet once engaged with his upper half … plays tall at times and needs to use better sink to access his leverage points … modest arm length and longer-armed defensive linemen will be able to access his chest … defenders feel his bruising hands, but he must improve his placement to better control the point of attack … his break-down ability as a puller and second-level blocker need improvement … flagged three times for false starts as a senior.
SUMMARY: A three-year starter at TCU, Avila started all 15 games at left guard as a senior in former offensive coordinator Garrett Riley’s RPO-based offense. A left tackle in high school, he played every offensive line position except left tackle at TCU, moving from center to left guard in 2022 and leading the team in snaps (1,020). He was an unsung hero on an offense that reached the National Championship Game. A wide-based and powerful blocker, Avila collects a body count with his heavy hands to make early contact in pass pro or drive block in the run game. Though he stays controlled in his initial mirror, his countering footwork and handwork will be the keys to his next-level success. Overall, Avila needs to better understand his biomechanics to access his explosive power, but he plays with a strong base to anchor and control at either guard or center. He fits both zone and gap schemes and should be an immediate starter as an NFL rookie.
GRADE: 2nd Round (No. 40 overall)
znModeratorAnother way to go (pre-trade) might have been: Keep Goff, get him more weapons, protect him better, coach him up, and rebuild his confidence. Far less costly and better long term, IMO.
I think that’s all true but McV was not the patient coach who was going to coach Goff up. McV seems to be better with vets.
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znModeratorwow. i feel like there are still a lot of quality first round caliber players available. rams could get a good pick here. or maybe they trade down. i hope they don’t trade down.
Who you thinking of.
znModeratorThere are a lot of ways Day 2 can play out for the Rams tomorrow night.
6 mock drafts, 6 different approaches to Rounds 2 and 3 https://t.co/ac88RzldUN
— Cameron DaSilva (@camdasilva) April 27, 2023
znModeratorRams stand to pick in the 2nd round tomorrow! Who is your favorite 2nd round draft pick by the Rams?
Mine is the great @IsaacBruce80 #33 overall from Memphis of the 1994 NFL Draft pic.twitter.com/JDBrGtCyCH
— RAMS ON FILM (@RamsOnFilm) April 27, 2023
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