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znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121giants were sacked once per every 7 pass attempts. bills were sacked once per every 25 pass attempts.
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinThe Rams agreed to terms with veteran safety John Johnson, the team announced..me (@ moi.com):Johnson? Part of this year’s formula.
Veteran secondary. Veteran secondary. (Counting veteran in a relative way as 3 or more years in the league…though I highlighted the veteran FAs w/ 5 or more years): Curl, Durant, Lake, White, Williams, Yeast, Johnson.
Young front 7, including Fiske, Turner, Young, and Verse.
Aggression and multiple different sets/formations up front.
Match zone and disguised coverages in the back, all heady veteran stuff.
..July 4, 2024 at 12:49 pm in reply to: Stafford. You know, that Mark Stafford guy, the quarterback #151335
znModeratorTOP 9 Matthew Stafford Career Game Winning Drives
znModeratorBrandon Thorn@BrandonThornNFLHeaviest OL units:1. Bengals2. Eagles (w/Steen at RG, would be 1 if Becton wins the job)3. Rams.Rams Bros.@RamsBrothersRams tied for 6th least sacks allowed in 2023 and their offensive line did nothing but improve this offseason.
znModeratorI was talking about the more substantive subject of helmet rankings.
Well yes. Obviouly. That’s what I was responding to.

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znModerator% of 3rd down incompletions which were due to receiver error:
28% – Joe Burrow
27% – Kyler Murray
26% – Matthew Stafford
I just think that was a combination of things, all unique to 2023. Higbee and Kupp being beat up when they were on the field and not their normal selves. Nacua actually being a rookie in certain ways in spite of not really being one in other spectacular ways. Robinson not really playing till the 2nd half of the season. Atwell not really being a solid 3rd or 4th WR type.
znModeratorDoug Farrar@NFL_DougFarrarBeen working on this for a while. Do NFL teams really NEED true No. 1 receivers anymore? Those teams without one are moving more and more to scheme and receiver distribution and location (H/T @gregcosell) to mitigate that deficit.….Making No. 1 receivers out of the aggregate
“It’s more about the collective unit of all those guys and just the rapport that they’re building with Jordan throughout the course of the offseason,” Packers head coach Matt LaFleur said of his receiver group…. “I’m excited to get to training camp with them.
“All those guys had their moments where they were the leading receiver in a game. I feel really good about the collective unit. The hardest part is we feel so good about them, it’s hard to get everybody the amount of touches that you’d like to get, but that’s a good problem to have.”
It’s a good problem to have when you’re not dependent on one receiver, and you can scheme your receivers open to their best abilities.
znModeratorWarren Sharp@SharpFootball% of 3rd down incompletions which were due to receiver error:28% – Joe Burrow
27% – Kyler Murray
26% – Matthew Stafford
26% – Justin Herbert
23% – C.J. Stroud
22% – Dak Prescott
21% – Will Levis
18% – Trevor Lawrence
18% – Aidan O’Connell
18% – Joshua Dobbs
17% – Kirk Cousins
17% – Lamar Jackson
17% – Patrick Mahomes
16% – Desmond Ridder
16% – Joe Flacco
16% – Derek Carr
16% – Josh Allen
16% – Sam Howell
15% – Jordan Love
15% – Ryan Tannehill
14% – Jared Goff
14% – Jake Browning
14% – Brock Purdy
14% – Tua Tagovailoa
14% – Justin Fields
14% – Geno Smith
13% – Bailey Zappe
13% – Baker Mayfield
12% – Gardner Minshew
12% – Bryce Young
11% – Kenny Pickett
10% – Jalen Hurts
9% – Mac Jones
7% – Zach Wilson
6% – Russell Wilson*2023 regular season, min 200 total 2023 pass att
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znModeratorRams Bros.@RamsBrothersIs Cobie Durant in a “make or break” year with the #Rams? We don’t think so. Still a valuable, versatile piece in the secondary who was publicly endorsed by Jalen Ramsey (multiple times). The Rams moved him around a ton in 2023.
znModeratorWell, alright. I see that, and I agree with it. She is not an academic voice. It’s armchair op-ed kind of stuff, and a careful, responsible voice wouldn’t use the term “dementia” without meaning dementia. You know, I think that if I was reading that with my teacher hat on, I would stop a student in their tracks right there, too.
Well that’s a good reply. And I think implicitly you’re suggesting you like that genre of political writing more than I do. Which is fair. I think in this discussion I got set off. Thinking about it, I sort of realized I got set off because of the stories from my wife’s work. Mixed in with all the normal “X patient did this or that” stories are the stories of uncomprehending kids of elderly patients who are awful to parents with dementia. They do awful things either because they are inconvenienced by it, or insist the parent has it when they don’t, or deny they have it when they do (there are also many stories that contain those 3 listed elements that are also not horrible at all).
And speaking of genres I don’t respond to that well, to be honest, when I read my own “got set off” writing, I kind of cringe a bit. It’s not that I need to be rational all the time…it’s that my more irrational moments, aren’t good ones in my own eyes. I read people all the time who are really good when they’re set off. My being set-off makes me think I crossed lines I actually respect.
znModeratori could easily see him staying with the rams for a long time.
Yep. As I said above, OL coaches can be with a team for a long time…unless their head coach gets fired. Scarnecchia was Belichick’s OL coach for a total of 19 years.
znModeratorfrom: https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2024/7/2/24190991/rams-offensive-line-rankings-brandon-thorn
The Los Angeles Rams have invested more capital into the interior of their offensive line than any other team in the NFL recently, so you would hope that they have a top-5 guard and center trio going into the 2024 season. According to Brandon Thorn, a respected expert on offensive line play and author of the Trench Warfare newsletter on Substack, that’s exactly what the Rams have now.
.On The Athletic Football podcast, Thorn was asked to give four teams who aren’t getting enough respect and his final answer was the L.A. Rams:
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“I think this offensive line could be very good and that’s the Rams, that really starts with the interior offensive line which has a care this year going in to be one of the five best interior lines in the league. There’s a little bit of projection there with Steve Avila moving to center but he played center more at TCU than left guard, so I think that shouldn’t be too difficult of a transition for him. Then you have one of the biggest centers in the NFL, which is kind of cool, especially for what they want to do.”.
Thorn then goes onto talk about Jonah Jackson as a good signing as long as he’s healthy, and Kevin Dotson, giving the Rams “the most physically imposing interior in the entire NFL in terms of run blocking and considering what McVay has morphed into with this duo lead run game, this could be a lot of fun this year.”.
He then calls Rob Havenstein “unspectacular, but solid” and says that while A.J. Jackson has questions in pass protection, but is a “powerful run blocker”.
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Thorn not only sees the Rams as having a good offensive line in its own right, but that McVay finally has the right pieces in place to do what he wants to do in the run game with Kyren Williams and Blake Corum. That’s what could make the Rams a very dangerous team in the NFC.
znModeratorWell that’s not correct, and I would be embarrassed if I put that out.
It looks to me like he’s counting the post-season in his numbers. Seems to me that most yearly stats count the regular season only, and if you are counting the playoffs you should openly say that since most people probably assume those kinds of stats are by default regular season only. So for example we always say Dickerson got 2105 yards in 84, not 2212 (which is what you get when you add the playoff game from that year).
znModeratorI think there are signals that he is headed in that direction, and maybe that’s where we disagree
Yeah that is where we disagree.
For example about 40% of people will have some memory loss after they are 65, but only a minority of those are quickly moving toward severe impairment, let alone dementia. (And there are other sign of the severe stuff.) And that kind of memory loss does not mean that the person in question is suffering from an overall, general, simultaneous severe decline.
However, again, that isn’t in itself an argument to “vote for Biden.” Even if I wanted it to be. Someone can decide that their idea of a president is someone younger who does not have those kinds of ordinary geriatric psycholgy issues and therefore has a more compelling preseence.
I agree with the “imperial murder machine” stuff. That’s been true for a couple of centuries. Though I have to admit, that kind of bumper sticker diction never works with me. It just sounds like the extreme right turned upside down. I prefer lucid analysis. And of course people know the president doesn’t really run the country, but then…everything the Supreme Court is doing illustrates the fact that presidents actually can actually can have profound effects on our own lives and history. It’s not a simple thing. Johnson did a lot of awful stuff but then Thurgood Marshall was a blessing. There was nothing fake about that and the results have often mattered…even if they are always very mixed results.
I was just arguing though with her statement that the current president has dementia–which she did flat say. In fact her whole statement depends on that. See the president really does have dementia and that just proves that the homogenous oligarchy runs it all. To me that (again) just sounds like a Maga argument, but upside down. (As Chomsky points out, the oligarchy is frequently divided against itself.) To me it’s just bumper sticker talk and again, I tend to avoid people who talk like that, it just just feels creepy as opposed to enlightening or useful. And that admittedly let alone obviously, is not an argument either–it’s just personal taste.
I prefer it when the left acts like a big alliance. And in the present they all to different degrees really do recognize that the post-war empire was not a gift to the world. She strikes me as being a purist type who is always deliberately and judgmentally driving people away for not being “party oriented” enough. What I’ve never seen from her is dialogue. That’s just personal taste too so I will hereafter just drop it. 😎 Let a thousand flowers bloom.
znModeratorfrom PFF, Ranking the top wide receivers by open-target rate from 2023: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-wide-receivers-open-target-rate-separation-2023
6. COOPER KUPP, LOS ANGELES RAMS
Total Targets Open Targets Open-Target Rate 100 87 87.0% Injuries have hampered Cooper Kupp over the past two seasons, but he still gained separation on 87 targets in 2023. The 31-year-old ranked second on the Rams in targets (100), target rate (27.2%) and gains of 20-plus yards (10). Kupp leads the Rams’ receiving corps in open-target rate over the past three seasons (86.8%) and ranks eighth in receiving yards (4,001) over that span.
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znModeratorWhat people are seeing is a guy who fumbles his words and often loses the plot of what he is talking about. .
And what I have learned is, people mistake that very particular kind of geriatric issue (word searching), which is very commonplace, for a full-blown complete and total, all-at-once simultaneous cognitive decline. It isn’t. Geriatric studies can show how that one issue (word-searching) can be overbalanced by cognitive advantages that only older people have (like deeply engrained, experience-trained general judgment).
I mentioned Margo because long before the word “dementia” became a loaded and misused political buzz term in the 2020s, I was hearing about dementia on basically an every day basis, and with that, some info about how it differs from more ordinary and common issues in geriatric psychology. A lot of those stories had to do with just not knowing–so you have adult children having to deal with older parents in a nursing home, and either they don’t know what dementia is and have to be educated, or they have poorly informed assumptions about it, or they think their parents have it when they don’t, or they insist they don’t have it when they do.
Okay there’s that in the background. But once it became a political buzz term, I read around about it too.
So we just differ on this issue, which as we know is cool. I don’t think the comment that set off this discussion “hit the nail on the head,” on the contrary it just sounds like someone beating a particular political drum. One of the things that drives that, IMO, is that “diagnosing” leadership with dementia plays on fear. IMO that’s why it’s so powerful.
And again, all of this — to me — is unrelated to whether or not someone should vote for Biden. In this discussion, I’m not advocating anything having to do with that, either way.
znModeratorSorry about the piled up posts but I’m on my phone travelling and longer posts will just disappear. I have to stick to mounted up short ones.
znModeratorAnd your quote doesn’t do anything for me. It doesn’t line up with anything I have been learning from all the medical reading……And with me it’s starting to reach the point where Biden himself is less the issue than the cultural politics of agism generally, which to me is getting so it has less to do with elections and more to with how mistaken election year rhetoric is causing all sorts of people to leap to all sorts of loaded conclusions in daily life.
znModeratorI’m no different than I was years ago in the Iraq War discussions. I read widely and I synthesize and I rarely read purely political commentators, who usually just strike me as corner-cutting flag wavers. The medical people I have been reading on geriatric psychology have shown me that many people mistake common geriatric issues like slower word searching (“that’s a…um…cat? lion? feline? Oh yeah…leopard!”) for general overall simultaneous total decline. And that assumption is just simply not valid.
znModeratorMy wife has nothing to do with this. She’s not out of town with me and we haven’t discussed the debate. What I got from her starting years ago was the basics on the distinction between actual dementia and the more commonplace issues having to do with ordinary geriatric psychology. The rest comes from me reading widely on the issue and by that I mean reading medical people
znModeratorYou guys clearly aren’t real Rams fans. I’ll remember that when it’s time to distribute the year-end bonuses.
znModeratorHe couldn’t perform as well as he did with actual dementia…and I am not saying he performed well. Medically that’s not dementia and hard-core online politicos saying it is are just not familiar with actual medical understanding of dementia. My wife is an RN who works with actual dementia patients and so over the years I’ve learned some things about this. Your poster did not hit the nail on the head…your poster just beat a certain political drum. And everything I say here is regardless whether or not you support or will vote for Biden.
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