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znModeratorIan Rapoport@RapSheetQB Jordan Love should only miss a few weeks with a Grade 1/2 MCL sprain.
znModeratorroberto clemente@rclemente2121
rams @ lions own the largest over/under for week 1, and the only over/under in the 50s… is it because of explosive high scoring offenses, very suspect defenses, or both?
znModeratorFrom https://www.therams.com/news/top-rams-news-previews-predictions-rams-at-lions-week-1-2024
- All five of NFL.com’s analysts have picked the Lions to beat the Rams on Sunday Night Football. Read why Brooke Cersosimo chose Detroit here.
- One of the seven Sports Illustrated/The MMQB’s staffers, Conor Orr, picked the Rams to win in the season opener. All of their Week 1 predictions can be seen here.
- Of ESPN’s 11 experts, one chose the Rams to come out on top in Week 1: Seth Wickersham. Picks for every game can be viewed here
The Athletic’s Jourdan Rodrigue on QB Matthew Stafford and C Jonah Jackson’s dynamic and returning to Detroit
“Do I feel the crowd? Yeah, I feel the crowd, 100 percent. Motivating factor. Love it. I’m one of the guys that walks into the opposing stadium and everybody has their headphones on, I don’t. I want to hear all of it. I want to smell it. I want to feel like it’s football. And that’s a part of football, especially going to an away game. That stuff just motivates me.” – Matthew Stafford
ESPN’s Sarah Barshop on Rams players remembering last year’s playoff loss at Ford Field
“Anybody that has something to prove, anybody that didn’t get a chance to do what they did in that last game, we have every opportunity to do what we want to in [Week 1].” – Quentin Lake
LA Times’ Gary Klein on the Rams’ rookie kicker, Joshua Karty, embracing the pressure in his debut
“Why not just jump straight into the deep end? I definitely like high-energy environments. It’s just a lot of fun.” – Joshua Karty
LA Daily News’ Adam Grosbard on Puka Nacua staying grounded after huge rookie season
“He’s a special dude. I know there’s a lot of things that he’s navigating and going from a fifth-round pick to having the success he had so quickly. But he’s done a great job of that.” – Cooper Kupp
znModeratorNFL Stats@NFL_StatsKyren Williams ended last year with 7 consecutive games with 100+ yards from scrimmage, which is the longest active streak in the #NFL.
znModeratorGary Klein@LATimeskleinRams activated OL A.J. Arcuri to roster from practice squad, team announced..Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueAJ Arcuri … largely has been depth at left and right tackle. Starter Rob Havenstein (ankle) has been questionable this week. Warren McClendon backs up Havenstein.
znModeratorPFF LA Rams@PFF_RamsMatthew Stafford can attack the Lions with play action. Stafford ranks 4th in PFF passing grade off of play action. That will pose a challenge for a Detroit defense that ranked 27th in yards per play allowed against play action last year.roberto clemente@rclemente2121last year the lions pass defense ranked:#26 in td%#29 in pass yards#31 in yards per attempt#32 in yards per completionand stafford lit the unit up in wc game with and without play-action, he just couldn’t get the job done inside the lions 15.
znModeratorLos Angeles Rams@RamsNFL
“Wherever they need me, I’m ready.” Jonah Jackson set to start at center against the Lions.
znModeratorSeptember 6, 2024 at 11:30 pm in reply to: injury situation going into game 1…including, Darious Wms out #152092
znModeratorSeptember 6, 2024 at 3:52 pm in reply to: injury situation going into game 1…including, Darious Wms out #152091
znModeratorStu Jackson@StuJRamsMcVay said Durant is expected to be ready to go for Sunday night’s game against the Lions in Detroit.…September 6, 2024 at 3:39 pm in reply to: mass shootings & guns … including Trump getting shot at #152090
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znModeratorJAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGEN
#Rams Projected Starting Defense on SundayDL Braden Fiske
DL Bobby Brown III
DL Kobie Turner
OLB Jared Verse
ILB Troy Reeder/Christian Rozeboom
OLB Byron Young
CB Tre’Davious White
CB Cobie Durant
STAR Quentin Lake
SAF Kamren Curl
SAF John Johnson III…
Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueHave Rams made a decision about which defensive player will wear the green dot? McVay: “We have.” And who is it? McVay: “I’ll share with you guys after the game…” (laughing)
znModeratorThey started off slow last year too. Part of that was K Wms being out 4 games but he was not out in the opening 3 games. The first 3 games include a win at Seattle, but then 2 losses to SF and the Bengals. They ended up going 3-6 before the bye, but regrouped at the bye to go 6-1 in the 7 games where the starters played (they didn’t play the starters in the final game).
Now they’re on the road against a tough opponent and here’s what they’re missing:
CB: Wms is out
we don’t know yet if Durant can play. Update via edit: Durant is playing.ILB: They’re replacing Jones, probably with Reeder
One thing is that the CB/ILB situation could be lessened if the Rams rely heavily on their safety rotation. They are deep and talented at safety.
OL: Jackson is out, Hav might be out, and they’re shifting things around at center.
If the relplacement OL can hold up, they could be the offense we knew from the 2nd half of last year. But if anything, deeper at WR and RB. It’s hard to say what replacing the OTs and then also experimenting at center will do to their cohesiveness, but they absolutely do have the firepower. Plus I hear that that Mort Stafford guy is a good qb.
If the young front 7 players on the DL and at edge can rise up in game 1, and like I said if they fill in the gaps by deploying multiple safeties, they could surprise us on D.
If not, it could be another situation like last year where maybe they’re not firing on all cylinders at first until they get a few guys back and then re-group at the bye—and re-grouping at the bye is something this team is good at doing. This year the bye comes earlier btw
Then they will smoke the league like a processed meat product being abruptly heated in some fashion.
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September 6, 2024 at 4:32 am in reply to: injury situation going into game 1…including, Darious Wms out #152086
znModeratorGregg Rosenthal@greggrosenthalthought that Tre White and Darious Williams were sneaky huge keys to the Rams season and now Williams is on IR
znModeratorRead the latest injury update in this thread: injury situation going into game 1…including, Darious Wms out
It is already starting to look like this is one of the years where the Rams will have to regroup at the bye.
September 5, 2024 at 4:05 pm in reply to: injury situation going into game 1…including, Darious Wms out #152078
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueThe Rams put Darious Williams on injured reserve with a hamstring issue. This is significant – backup Cobie Durant was also dealing with a hamstring..Cameron DaSilva@camdasilvaDarious Williams: Out 4 gamesTre’Davious White: Coming off torn AchillesCobie Durant: Hamstring injuryAfter that, it’s UDFAs Charles Woods and Josh Wallace.
Rams secondary went from revamped to pretty darn concerning.
znModeratorUh…okay. McVay was a big part of the problem there. But McVay isn’t a “domineering head coach” who put “training wheels” on Stafford, so maybe Goff’s problem in LA was not just that his coach didn’t trust him. There were reasons the coach didn’t trust him.
I don’t agree actually. McVay was openly and derisively impatient with Goff once he became the de facto qb coach starting in 2019. He was pushing Goff into doing certain things that he, McVay, wanted to do, and Goff wasn’t really ready for or especially adept at doing. It was a confidence issue, which led a former Rams coach, who I am pretty sure was Zak Taylor, to say that McV knew how to tear Goff down but not how to build him back up. And McV did put training wheels on him–that was the whole talking into the helmet thing, that New England took advantage of in that super bowl, where Goff just didn’t know how to respond to the new and unexpected things the defense was showing him.
The difference in Detroit was that Goff and Johnson built the passing game together around Goff’s strengths and the things Goff liked to do, so that was a case study in confidence building.
The difference in LA was that McV was always going to respect the long time veteran Stafford, so they have both described their relationship as collaborative.
Another coach, in 2019, would have built around the qb’s strengths. McV instead was basically saying “keep up! why can’t you keep up?” I mean, you know, we’ll see about Bennett, but so far in his career McV has never developed a young qb. In 2017 and 2018, both years, he had accomplished and very involved qb coaches who could mediate between the qb and McVay. One of those was Zak Taylor, the coach I mentioned as saying McV worked against Goff’s confidence. After 2019 McV became the de facto qb coach though, and I think it made a difference.
After 2022 McV talked about how he fell into bad habits that season and he had to rethink how he did things, and I think the signs are that losing the way they did that year brought out his worst kinds of impatience and his habit of riding people. I think he was doing that with Goff in 2019 and 2020, and then crashed into that tendency of his in 2022 and had to reinvent how he approached coaching. Which he obviously did, and that’s part of what makes him great. It took a bad year for that to happen, but still, some guys actually don’t learn from bad years, so that’s to McV’s credit.
In terms of qb comparisons, Goff is a very good qb and Stafford is a HOF level qb. And I defended the trade the minute it happened. My take was that Goff at that stage of his development was not in a good “marriage” with McV at that stage in his development. With a bad marriage, you move on, and I thought that Stafford would work better with McV. McV didn’t have to develop Stafford, if anything he would benefit from listening to him. Which I think is what happened and I think this is an especially good HC/qb marriage.
znModeratorHow has Goff been able to reinvent himself in the Motor City and how has he morphed into the ideal fit in Johnson’s offense?
Goff hasn’t morphed into the ideal fit for offensive coordinator Ben Johnson’s offense so much as he was a part of its creation. Both Goff and Johnson looked at how the veteran quarterback was successful and developed an offense that plays to its signal-callers strengths. There’s a lot of variety, there’s a lot of deception in terms of different plays being run out of the same looks, a lot of pre-snap motion and play-action. It’s an offense that lives over the middle and really utilizes that space from hash to hash.
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Goff was finally trusted to not be a quarterback surrogate for a domineering head coach. He’s proven his football acumen by more often than not, making the right checks at the line of scrimmage, delivering the ball to where it should go based on the defense in front of him, and just, you know, quarterbacking without training wheels.
znModeratorRams Bros.@RamsBrothers
Byron Young: played 917 defensive snaps in 2023, the most by a rookie defender in the Next Gen Stats era (since 2016).Kobie Turner (now a team captain): played 660 defensive snaps in 2023, over 100 more than any other rookie DT.
Can’t wait to see what these two do in year 2, with Verse and Fiske by their sides (stats per
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znModerator48: Jared Goff (QB, Lions) | Top 100 Players of 2024
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znModeratorLos Angeles Rams PR@TheLARamsPRPer @NextGenStats, the Rams duo of OLB Byron Young (@byron_97) and DE Kobie Turner (@TurnerKobie) finished last season with a combined 110 quarterback pressures, the most by any rookie duo since 2018.
znModeratorJAKE ELLENBOGEN@JKBOGENAccording to Sports Info Solutions, #Rams CB Darious Williams had a deserved catch percentage last year of 67.2% and a targeted passer rating of 46.1. Both of those rank 1st in the NFL for the 2023 season among all cornerbacks.
znModeratorHe does the Rams at 1:28 in.
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znModeratorLook at this paragraph.
Classic Rodrigue.
My suspicion, too, is that Avila’s return to left guard is in part motivated by how much of the screen game he activates — he is truly gifted in that phase — combined with the fact that keeping that element in the playbook also helps counter pressure. Is it ideal to be shuffling this much so close to the season opener in Detroit? No. But injuries and absences aren’t, either, and my read of all of this is that the Rams are trying to make the best of an already tough situation.
That’s a pretty nuanced take. But it’s also crystal clear, and reading it just feels like you’re just chatting with her over lunch. Meanwhile it’s also perceptive and lucid, and entirely based on being a good football observer.
She’s both too good for us 😎 AND what we as fans have always deserved.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue, from:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5738891/2024/09/04/los-angeles-rams-observations-preview-week-1/?the best of an already tough situation.Players/coaches/topics we aren’t talking about enough
Because the Rams so outperformed expectations in 2023 with a relatively unknown group, I have decided we should probably get ahead of a couple players and coaches people should be talking about:
• Avila. I think the second-year lineman has a real shot at cementing himself among the best in the NFL this season.
• Jordan Whittington. The rookie receiver was my sleeper way back in the spring, and will clearly factor into the offense in some way this season (though isn’t a lead target). Whittington was a former running back whose catch-and-run ability is more fullback-like, if a fullback was also pretty dang fast.
• Eric Yarber, receivers coach. Can this veteran coach get more attention for churning out receiver after receiver who McVay couldn’t have dreamed up any better for his system over the years?
• Ryan Wendell, offensive line coach. Wendell’s work with not one, but three potential starting centers this summer is notable as was his management of backups Warren McClendon and Joe Noteboom at the tackle spots when the starters got hurt.
• Aubrey Pleasant, pass game coordinator/defensive backs coach. People ask me every year, “who is the next coach to ascend out of McVay’s staff?” This year or in the coming years, I believe it’s Pleasant — who is, at the very least, on a defensive coordinator track.
• Braden Fiske. I didn’t want to make a big deal about how Fiske was moving in the early days of camp because players didn’t have pads on. His hands were right, and so were his feet. When pads went on and later when the Rams got into joint practices, it became clear that Fiske could match his technique with power, speed, and a tenacity that will probably irritate offensive linemen over time. Fiske rarely finishes a practice without one of his pants/tights getting ripped to shreds because he just doesn’t stop churning his legs through blocks. Am I now making too big of a deal about the rookie second-rounder? Probably. But when he pairs with first-round pick Jared Verse (who also very much looks the part), you can see why the Rams’ staff was so excited to get them together.
• How much the Rams like all three of their running backs (Kyren Williams, Blake Corum and Ronnie Rivers) and all three of their tight ends (Colby Parkinson, Davis Allen, Hunter Long).
• The run defense minus Aaron Donald. I believe the Rams will find ways to get pressure, but I remain skeptical about how the smaller-sized, still-developing group will fare against physical running schemes, particularly those they will face in their first three games this season (Lions, Cardinals, 49ers).
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue, from:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5738891/2024/09/04/los-angeles-rams-observations-preview-week-1/?the best of an already tough situation.Safety dance
I am geeking out over how I’m seeing new defensive coordinator Chris Shula experiment with his deep safeties room. Shula had long had fingerprints on that group, whether as a position coach or as a member of the talent identification committee along with scouts.
I observed the defense closely all summer to see what “coordinator personality” will emerge from the reserved, soft-spoken longtime position coach and his 2024 defense. So far, it has featured clean, fundamental football, stickier coverage thanks to significant veteran updates in the secondary (this is still a predominantly zone/match zone team, before anyone loses their mind), and cornerbacks and safeties who understand they will need to help out a very young group of pass rushers by covering well to allow the pressure to get home as they develop into their high potential. I am particularly interested in increased safety usage in sub packages such as nickel and dime, including counters to how teams will try to attack the middle of the field and use pre-snap motions and shifts against the Rams. It could be a big year for new captain (and “Star”/big nickel) Quentin Lake. Of course, this is all theory and observation gleaned from practice — things could always change once the real football starts.
Speaking of which …
Depending more on safeties instead of extra cornerbacks and inside linebackers may be another reason the Rams felt comfortable moving on from former team captain and starter Ernest Jones late last month. Multiple things are true about that situation: Jones was still getting his legs under him with the rest of the defense and a new coordinator after a knee injury sidelined him all spring. He wasn’t able to truly do football activities until training camp. Because the Rams (publicly) decided they were not going to extend him ahead of his fourth season, they seemed averse to giving him extra time — opting instead for the risk of playing veterans Troy Reeder and/or Christian Rozeboom in the short term, and maintaining belief that rookie Omar Speights will eventually hold an important role in the long term. Coaches were very high on Speights out of camp.
General manager Les Snead has a saying: If it is inevitable, make it immediate. The Rams had been in conversations with teams on Jones through the later weeks of camp. Real game planning for the opener and beyond begins two weeks before the start of the season. The Rams kept the situation fluid as they took calls, but had to make a final decision after the joint practices in Houston. This was not as “sudden” as it looked (or felt, unless you’re a Rams executive). In fact, the first signal toward Jones possibly not being in as safe a spot as one would think a captain would be was Snead’s willingness to state on the record at league meetings in March that the Rams would let Jones play out his fourth season without an extension. That might as well have been a waving flag to other teams conveying the Rams were open for business. Jones was a true leader for the Rams and a talented blitzer (4 1/2 sacks in 2023) and figures to be a great fit for Dennard Wilson’s blitz-heavy scheme in Tennessee.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue, from:
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5738891/2024/09/04/los-angeles-rams-observations-preview-week-1/?source=emp_shared_articleOffensive line concerns
The position the Rams put so much money into this spring is in question out of the gate because of injuries and left tackle Alaric Jackson’s suspension. With more help needed on the left side in the interim, coaches moved Steve Avila back to left guard early last week and installed Jonah Jackson at center (where Avila had been working since the spring). I started asking into this topic with sources in Houston at joint practices, when I spotted rookie center Beaux Limmer also getting a shot with the first-team. There’s no complaint about Avila’s play at center. No, this is all about figuring out how best to help vulnerable positions (left and right tackle) with Alaric Jackson and possibly Rob Havenstein out and which combinations work best in that regard. Jonah Jackson wasn’t back from a shoulder injury when Limmer repped in, which is why the Rams couldn’t test him at center until last week. But this has been in discussion since the two tackles respectively hurt their ankles (and reiterated when the Rams received news of the suspension). Jackson told me on Monday that he’s been trying to get back to playing center, which he calls a “natural” position for him, for a little while now and hopes to seize this as an opportunity.
My suspicion, too, is that Avila’s return to left guard is in part motivated by how much of the screen game he activates — he is truly gifted in that phase — combined with the fact that keeping that element in the playbook also helps counter pressure. Is it ideal to be shuffling this much so close to the season opener in Detroit? No. But injuries and absences aren’t, either, and my read of all of this is that the Rams are trying to make the best of an already tough situation.
Havenstein was able to take part in at least some of the individual drills Monday, but head coach Sean McVay wasn’t sure at that time whether he can play Sunday night and said they would use every day they have to determine that.
Speaking of which …
One under-the-radar offensive line story from camp? Logan Bruss, the oft-injured and embattled former third-round draft pick, finally seems to have put things together. One of my favorite moments of camp was after the first preseason game, when I caught Bruss smiling and dancing to practice music as the offensive line stretched and warmed up. I don’t think I’d seen Bruss smile at practice in his first two years in Los Angeles. His growing confidence is apparent, and offensive coordinator Mike LaFleur took notice, too.
“He just hasn’t stopped. When it looked like it maybe was not going to work out for him, and he knows that, he just kept pushing through and those are the really cool ones right there, where you’re not sure. The player’s not sure,” said LaFleur. “Which you never want as a coach to see a player have to go through that. For him to just keep battling last year behind the scenes (and) on the practice squad, doing it in the scout team fashion then to be able to get his opportunities.”
Bruss has backed up Kevin Dotson at right guard.
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueNever put too much stock in the team-released depth charts each year, but one Rams item merited followup – Sean McVay confirms that Blake Corum may possibly return kicks. Group has also included Jordan Whittington, Tutu Atwell. McVay said earlier Kyren Williams will return punts.September 4, 2024 at 10:18 pm in reply to: injury situation going into game 1…including, Darious Wms out #152063
znModeratorJourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueRob Havenstein was able to participate in at least the media’s viewing portion of practice today, and also in the walkthrough earlier today. First injury report of the new season rolls out later today, but expect he will be listed as limited per McVay.…Jourdan Rodrigue@JourdanRodrigueThe first Rams/Lions injury report of the week…
znModeratorRams Bros.@RamsBrothersSean McVay is the 4th longest tenured head coach in the NFL. Gearing up for year #8:• 2-0 in the NFCC• 2 Super Bowl appearances, 1 Lombardi• Still just 38 years old, 2nd youngest coach in NFL -
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