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Wonder if Britt and Quick are going to be there
So far…have not heard anything about anyone else being there.
Me in blue: question answered.
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Rams gathering for Sam Bradford’s annual workout programBy Ryan Van Bibber
Jul 9 2014St. Louis Rams QB Sam Bradford is holding his annual summer workout program with his teammates, receivers and tight ends as far as we can tell, at the University of Oklahoma this week. How do we know this? Because they’re talking about it on social media, where sharing stories of rising and grinding is essential.
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The article mentions Bailey, Austin, and Kendricks.
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July 9, 2014 at 8:35 pm in reply to: from the archive: long radio interview with Fisher, June 19 #1314znModeratorRams43
An excellent listen for all who have the time.
You will gain insights into Jeff Fisher that you are unlikely to be expecting.
Well worth the time spent, I promise you.
znModeratorWonder if Britt and Quick are going to be there
So far…have not heard anything about anyone else being there.
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July 9, 2014 at 4:37 pm in reply to: Rams attend workout for defensive lineman entering supplemental draft #1297znModeratorI have seen this kind of thing before though I don’t remember names. Heavy beast DT with great numbers ends up as a UDFA or in this case in the supplemental draft.
Before, what killed the guy or 2 I am thinking of was stamina.
It was one thing to make it through a workout. It was another to make it through an NFL practice.
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znModeratorI’d say it has possibilities. Spruce it up a bit, maybe some curtains over there and a new rug by the fire place. Ok, yeah, sign me up!
It’s the I-man! Welcome aboard. I was thinking for a color scheme, we needed bold tans and blacks and aggressive orange.
znModeratorCan we still say “fuck” here? If so, I’m in. People might say I’m vulgar, but that is a load of god-damn dick-beating fucking bullshit. Ok, got that out of my system. Nice digs.
Welcome aboard, Shakespeare. Would not be the same without you.
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znModeratorfrom NFL Analysis: Ranking offensive lines? Go figure
Frank Cooney
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl-analysis-ranking-offensive-lines-165922207–nfl.html
ST. LOUIS RAMS
–OFFENSIVE LINEMEN: Starters – LT Jake Long, LG Greg Robinson, C Scott Wells, RG Rodger Saffold, RT Joe Barksdale. Backups – G Davin Joseph, C Barrett Jones, C Tim Barnes, G Brandon Washington, T Mike Person, T Sean Hooey, C Demetrius Rhaney, T Mitchell Van Dyk, T Travis Bond, T Abasi Salimu.
Long’s health holds the key, especially at the start of the season. If he is ready coming back from ACL surgery, the unit is set. If not, the decision will be whether to slide the rookie Robinson to left tackle or move Saffold there. That would open a spot for Joseph, who was signed in the offseason after being released by Tampa Bay. There will also be an intriguing competition between Jones and Barnes. Jones is considered the heir apparent to Wells, but he wasn’t ready to play last season when Wells was injured, and Barnes got the nod. Barksdale is rarely talked about, but he continues to improve and was the only lineman to start all 16 games last season. Washington will also try to make a case for himself as a backup. Person and Hooey might battle for a backup tackle spot, although in the expected lineup, guards Robinson and Saffold could be the backups at tackle. Rookies Rhaney and Van Dyk have potential, but are probably headed to the practice squad.
znModeratorI am always optimistic till the bullets are flying (then I become more of just a hopeful realist). It all just seems natural to me. Just the way I see stuff.
But it’s qualified. For one thing I don’t do predictions…over the years, even I have learned that the most powerful thing in the world of predictions is the unpredictable …and that (surprise!) you learn about the unpredictable after the fact. “There’s always the unexpected isn’t there.”
Rams fans optimism to me just means you can see reasonable grounds for expecting the team to be good or better than it was.
So what do I think those grounds are this time?
* Coaches. Unlike many I like Schott. That’s a whole separate discussion in itself. Waufle and Boudreau are beyond compare. Fisher will field a fiesty group. Wms. really does improve defenses.
* Secondary. They were painfully young and probably misused. Wms will get the best out of them. Or I see him as capable of that, anyway.
* Front 7. This is a new era in Rams football, where the DL (and to an extent LBs) take the lead in determining games. Greatest Sacks on Turf.
* OL. If everyone is healthy, the OL has the potential to be absolutely first-rate. It has the depth to be good enough anyway, even with major injuries (though as I keep saying, past a certain point OL injuries just take a toll.) Really, I think the worst case scenario (barring catastrophic multiple injuries, something sadly enough a Rams fan can’t rule out….)
* TEs, WRs. Some good things there (Kendricks, Austin, maybe Bailey) but this is more a case where the coaches have to manufacture it out of scattered raw parts. So, it’s up to the coaches to weekly invent new ways to get something out of these guys, depending on the opponent. Obviously it would be better if they had a consistent, productive “The Guy” type guy to work with.
* QB. Based on my own quirky way of doing this, I think Bradford has already made it as a tier 2 qb. I base that on his production under Fisher when the Rams had both a reasonably healthy OL and a running threat. IMO if he doesn’t continue at that level, he has regressed.
* RBs. Not sure if they have a 16 game stud, but, they have lottsa guys who can run the ball. (I don’t know about Stacy for 16 games.)
* special teams. Best in the league.
Now what do I PREDICT based on that? I don;t know. When was the last time a young team emerged in a “best division in football” it shared with 2 consecutive conference champs? I am sure it has happened, but those are stern odds. Given that, there ARE reasonable grounds for optimism, but it’s also a young team with quite a few units in transition.
BUT. If a few of the things I think are good hold up, they should be better immediately.
I do NOT have a “3 year thing” though. I think Fisher has more than 3 years…he looks to me to be Stan’s Guy for the long haul.
Am I trying to have it both ways? Hopefully, yes. The realist in me sees how tough the situation is, and I am patient with that. The optimist in me sees plenty of places where they will be anywhere from good enough to exceptional.
I do think a team that can massacre three division winners with Clemens at qb (like they did last year)is on the rise.
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znModeratorI am not on the Bennie Cunningham bandwagon myself.
On a good team, i think a guy like BC should be the third RB.
And thats what i expect this year. Stacy, Tre, BC.If the coaching staff agreed that BC was ‘special’ then
they wouldn’t have drafted Tre. Right?
RBs arent that hard to evaluate, so
i would think they know what they are doing.w
vYou’re talking about this piece, right?
http://www.rams-news.com/rb-benny-cunningham-the-rams-forgotten-man-tst/ RB Benny Cunningham, the Rams’ Forgotten Man –TST
For the second year in a row, Benny Cunningham finds himself lost in the shuffle. Entering the NFL as a knee rehabbing, undrafted free agent, from little MTSU, it was understandable.The writer makes big claims for how good he is and how we just haven’t seen it yet. I don’t know what that’s based on, though at the same time if BC shows up this summer and shines, that would be fine with me. Maybe he is better after mending his knee…that’s the same injury (patellar) Joseph had, and it can take a while to get back to a former high level of play with that injury.
Conveniently, every draft Mike Franke summarizes what is out there about a draft pick or UDFA. Here he is on Cunningham.
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http://ramview.blogspot.com/2013/07/rookie-free-agent-preview-benny.html
Sources: NFLDraftScout, ESPN.com, Middle Tennessee State University athletics, IndianapolisColts.com, CBS Sports, The Rookie Scouting Portfolio blog, Steeler Fury, YouTube
Injuries:
2012: season-ending injury (torn patellar tendon) in October, missed the final seven games. Had a second procedure in March 2013 (performed by Dr. James Andrews) but was said to be well ahead of schedule on his rehab. Appeared to be participating in full in Rams 2013 OTAs.
2011: missed four games and most of a fifth due to a broken foot.Pro day results: could only bench press at MTSU’s pro day due to knee injury. Did 26 reps; RBs averaged 20 at the Combine. He held a private workout that was (reportedly) attended only by the Rams and the Titans. College bio says he was timed at 4.39 in high school. NFLDraftCountdown estimates him at 4.60, which was the average 40 time for RBs at the Combine.
Positives: Very physical one-cut runner who gets up to speed quickly and runs with excellent pad level. Instinctive with excellent feet. Attacks the defense and knows how to gain extra yards. Consistently gets his shoulder into defenders and breaks tackles. Strong interior runner, you’re not going to arm-tackle him. Good cutback runner, reads the field well. Operates well in traffic. Does decent job getting small in the hole. Strong leg drive after initial contact. Excellent second gear when he gets into the open field. Excellent to elite acceleration. Can bounce plays outside. Ran a lot out of shotgun, which figures to be a staple in the Ram offense this season. [zn note: ah, the 2013 pre-season idea of what the offense would be] Effective goal line runner for his size. Willing blocker. Never quits on a play. Clean as a whistle off the field.
Negatives: Doesn’t have an elusive running style and doesn’t show a lot of moves. Needs to be more secure with the ball when he does put on a move; exposes himself to fumble trouble. Could be prone to penalties because league is cracking down on RBs leading with their helmets. Needs to improve in blitz protection; misses too many assignments, looks uncertain or disinterested at times. Questionable hands as a receiver. Doesn’t seem to adjust well to poor throws. Looks small, not thick in lower body. Not completely surprising he’s been injured as much as he has.
Compares to: Alfred Morris is also a popular comparison.
Fun Facts: Had Benny played all of 2012 at the statistical pace of his first five games, he would have rushed for 1,440 yards and 26 TD, very favorably comparable with high-drafted running backs Montee Ball (1,822 and 22), Le’Veon Bell (1,793 and 12) and Eddie Lacy (1,322 and 17). Marcus Lattimore had 662 yards and 11 TDs before he got hurt, with 45 carries more than Cunningham.
RamView: Cunningham’s status bears monitoring when training camp opens (yes!) next Thursday. Coming off the patella injury, odds have seemed good that the Rams will “redshirt” him this year. He didn’t have to sit out OTAs, though, and if he is able to go in camp, his quickness and tough running style fit wonderfully into what the Rams have going in the rest of their RB corps.
znModerator…..”Of course, Fisher wouldn’t have needed to rush Walton into service if he hadn’t been stiffed by Rob Ryan, whose surprise resignation last January — ….. ”
I have read this in a couple of articles. I just wonder why they think that Ryan stiffed Fisher? Don’t get me wrong, I am not a fan of Ryan. But, how do we know that Fisher wasn’t part of the issue? Maybe Ryan didn’t want to be a YES man? Maybe Fisher wasn’t going to give him full control of the defense? Maybe there’s some details I missed originally?
We really do have both sides of the story, though that doesn’t mean we have the whole story. “Stiffed” is an interpretation. A narrative spin. Reportedly, once Ryan sat down with the defensive coaches he saw that they were not fits with one another.
http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf/2013/12/new_orleans_saints_defensive_c_50.html
The league officially reinstated Payton on Jan. 22. Payton made his way to Mobile, Ala., to meet with his staff at the Senior Bowl on Jan. 23. Payton fired Steve Spagnuolo as defensive coordinator Jan. 24.“I’m not sure when that move was made, but absolutely, you know, this (the Saints) was a job I wanted,” Ryan said Friday.
Meanwhile, Ryan accepted the defensive coordinator position to work under Jeff Fisher with the Rams and the news broke Jan. 25. Ryan then balked at the Rams’ job and the team released the news of Ryan’s departure Jan. 29.
“Getting fired in Dallas was a shock to my system, and I was a little pissed off,” Ryan said. “I took a job with the Rams and hadn’t had anything signed and then just from being there and finding out the direction of how they wanted to do things, it was my obligation not only to me but to them to just walk away and look for something different.”
Ryan added: “I’ve been in the business long enough to … You know, I’d moved my family … What really came into my decision was this was going to be my fourth stop in five years. So, whatever it was, to me I wanted the perfect situation. I wanted to coach a defense that I’m an expert at, and I know I’m damn good. But I want to do the best job I could do. I was tired of moving around every single year, every two years, and …
“In this business you have to be fully in. You’re either all the way in or not. For me, hell, I’m an all-the-way-in coach. No one’s going to work longer than I do. I’m going to prepare as hard as I can, and with that situation, it was just I don’t think I can fully commit to something that wasn’t exactly what I believe in, despite having great people in the building.”
“The scheme fit (in St. Louis) was more of a 4-3,” Ryan said. “I just didn’t get the right vibe and I thought to myself I was already mad about the Dallas situation, and you know what, this is the best thing to do for me to do and for them, for me to walk away, wait for the perfect opportunity to come because I knew I was going to get one.
“Wherever it was going to be, I was going to get one because I believe in myself, then, hell, whatever it was, one week, two weeks later, I got the call to come interview here [ie. New Orleans] and this is the situation I was dreaming of.”
Fisher said earlier this week Ryan “made a commitment” to coaching the Rams, but didn’t have any hard feelings with Ryan’s decision to leave.
July 8, 2014 at 9:19 pm in reply to: Rams attend workout for defensive lineman entering supplemental draft #1233znModeratordid anyone find any official numbers posted from the workout?
Me in blue. The 47 reps was at a private workout.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/philadelphia-eagles/post/_/id/6263/eagles-attend-workout-for-lakendrick-ross
Ross apparently put up some big numbers at his workout. Talbot report that he ran a 1.81 unofficial 10 yard split, and had a wing span of 83.5 inches. There will be an official list of players eligible for this year’s supplemental draft, and I’ll get something together with them before the draft.
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Here’s another bit but it;s from a poster on another team’s site who does not give a source:
Ross weighed in at 360 pounds and looked amazing. The NFL scouts were flocking around the physical specimen while he ran his 40 yard dash as well as did positional drills.
Ross weighed in at 366 pounds and measured in at 6’4.
He had a 83.5 wing span.
Ran a 1.81 unofficial 10 yard split, and one scout said he timed him from a 5.4 to 5.5.
July 8, 2014 at 8:43 pm in reply to: Rams attend workout for defensive lineman entering supplemental draft #1226znModeratorwell that sounds like a load of bs. not buying it.
Well, okay. But…why would that many teams attend a workout?
znModeratorI caused the malfunction. It will take RM to fix it though.
You tried the Rams Always Win feature, didn’t you. Hey we said that wasn’t ready yet. I think now we have to scale it back to “Rams usually win.”
Anyway, thanks RM, and thanks ag for being on top of it.
znModeratorThis is a good one IMO
znModeratorRamBill
Sports Illustrated’s Doug Farrar and Chris Burke answer your NFC West questions from Twitter including if Sam Bradford will be resigned and who has the best wide receiving corps in the division. They also answer the question on how many other divisions would the 4th place finisher in the NFC West win. (4:05)
znModeratorWithout the opening & closing brackers (so you can see it)
youtube width=”640″ height=”360″]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BireM8MZSJI[/youtube
znModeratorznModeratorPHDram
the rams have the [future] safety they want, his name is Mo Alexander. they didnt take him in the fourth for special teams value. fisher has said more than once that they really really like him paired with tj. they want interchangeable safeties, not free and strong.
gw also said he plans on playing his safeties deep so they will typically be moving forward like LBs. this plays to the strengths of tj and moe.
znModerator2013 Offensive Line Rankings
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/01/13/2013-offensive-line-rankings/3/
13. St Louis Rams (26th)
PB: 17th, RB: 9th, PEN: 26thStud: Many, ourselves included, wondered if Jake Long (+25.8) was done. He’d enjoyed a great start to his career in Miami but two so-so years left a lot to be desired. Well, this was the year he came back with a bang, and it’s a horrible shame his season ended with an ACL and MCL tear.
Dud: He may be a former first-rounder but Chris Williams (-21.8) is just a liability as a lineman. Far too much pressure, not enough good run blocking, and he’s the team’s weak link on offense.
Analysis: A step forward but perhaps not as much as they would have like to see. They nailed it with the pickup of Long and got surprisingly good play from Joe Barksdale, Shelley Smith and Rodger Saffold at guard. That would suggest a higher finish, but the interior trio of Williams, Harvey Dahl and Scott Wells really didn’t play up to the level that was needed of them.
July 8, 2014 at 9:16 am in reply to: Neanderthal trait in early human skull adds to complexity of human evolution #1181znModeratorNeandertal trait in early human skull suggests that modern humans emerged from complex labyrinth of biology and peoples
Washington University in St. Louis
Summary: Re-examination of a circa 100,000-year-old archaic early human skull found 35 years ago in Northern China has revealed the surprising presence of an inner-ear formation long thought to occur only in Neandertals.
Share ThisThe Xujiayao 15 late archaic human temporal bone from northern China with the extracted temporal labyrinth superimposed on a view of the Xujiayao site.
Credit: Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology, Chinese Academy of ScienceThe Xujiayao 15 late archaic human temporal bone from northern China with the extracted temporal labyrinth superimposed on a view of the Xujiayao site.
Re-examination of a circa 100,000-year-old archaic early human skull found 35 years ago in Northern China has revealed the surprising presence of an inner-ear formation long thought to occur only in Neandertals.
“The discovery places into question a whole suite of scenarios of later Pleistocene human population dispersals and interconnections based on tracing isolated anatomical or genetic features in fragmentary fossils,” said study co-author Erik Trinkaus, PhD, a physical anthropology professor at Washington University in St. Louis.
“It suggests, instead, that the later phases of human evolution were more of a labyrinth of biology and peoples than simple lines on maps would suggest.”
The study, forthcoming in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, is based on recent micro-CT scans revealing the interior configuration of a temporal bone in a fossilized human skull found during 1970s excavations at the Xujiayao site in China’s Nihewan Basin.
Trinkaus, the Mary Tileston Hemenway Professor in Arts & Sciences, is a leading authority on early human evolution and among the first to offer compelling evidence for interbreeding and gene transfer between Neandertals and modern human ancestors.
His co-authors on this study are Xiu-Jie Wu, Wu Liu and Song Xing of the Institute of Vertebrate Paleontology and Paleoanthropology, Beijing, and Isabelle Crevecoeur of PACEA, Université de Bordeaux.
“We were completely surprised,” Trinkaus said. “We fully expected the scan to reveal a temporal labyrinth that looked much like a modern human one, but what we saw was clearly typical of a Neandertal. This discovery places into question whether this arrangement of the semicircular canals is truly unique to the Neandertals.”
Often well-preserved in mammal skull fossils, the semicircular canals are remnants of a fluid-filled sensing system that helps humans maintain balance when they change their spatial orientations, such as when running, bending over or turning the head from side-to-side.
Since the mid-1990s, when early CT-scan research confirmed its existence, the presence of a particular arrangement of the semicircular canals in the temporal labyrinth has been considered enough to securely identify fossilized skull fragments as being from a Neandertal. This pattern is present in almost all of the known Neandertal labyrinths. It has been widely used as a marker to set them apart from both earlier and modern humans.
The skull at the center of this study, known as Xujiayao 15, was found along with an assortment of other human teeth and bone fragments, all of which seemed to have characteristics typical of an early non-Neandertal form of late archaic humans.
Trinkaus, who has studied Neandertal and early human fossils from around the globe, said this discovery only adds to the rich confusion of theories that attempt to explain human origins, migrations patterns and possible interbreedings.
While it’s tempting to use the finding of a Neandertal-shaped labyrinth in an otherwise distinctly “non-Neandertal” sample as evidence of population contact (gene flow) between central and western Eurasian Neandertals and eastern archaic humans in China, Trinkaus and colleagues argue that broader implications of the Xujiayao discovery remain unclear.
“The study of human evolution has always been messy, and these findings just make it all the messier,” Trinkaus said. “It shows that human populations in the real world don’t act in nice simple patterns.
“Eastern Asia and Western Europe are a long way apart, and these migration patterns took thousands of years to play out,” he said. “This study shows that you can’t rely on one anatomical feature or one piece of DNA as the basis for sweeping assumptions about the migrations of hominid species from one place to another.”
Story Source:
The above story is based on materials provided by Washington University in St. Louis. The original article was written by Gerry Everding. Note: Materials may be edited for content and length.
znModeratorramBRO
– According to Sando, 20 of the 26 evaluators ranked Bradford in Tier 3. 3 put him in Tier 4, and one in Tier 5. Though not specifically noted, I’ll assume that 2 evaluators rated Sam in Tier 2 or higher.
– Sounds like the Tier 5 ranking may have come from another QB. According to Sando, the QB ripped into Bradford pretty good. But Sando also mentioned that this QB mentioned Sam’s rookie contract, so I’m wondering if there’s any “haterism” coloring his judgement.
– The head coach who prefers Sam to Russell Wilson says that Wilson’s height (or lack thereof) results in him missing plays from the pocket. Sure, he gets out of the pocket to make plays, but he thinks defenses will adjust to keep him inside to force him to make those throws there. Sam? The coach feels he’s at home in the pocket and will make those throws that Wilson can’t.
– Sando says that, despite the mobile QB’s out there, the personnel people he talked to place a lot of weight on QB’s who can make plays from the pocket.
Interesting listen if you get the chance.
He says the evaluators seem to be hedging their bets, they want to see him do it and so far he hasn’t. He just has the stay on the field.
znModeratorramBRO
– According to Sando, 20 of the 26 evaluators ranked Bradford in Tier 3. 3 put him in Tier 4, and one in Tier 5. Though not specifically noted, I’ll assume that 2 evaluators rated Sam in Tier 2 or higher.
– Sounds like the Tier 5 ranking may have come from another QB. According to Sando, the QB ripped into Bradford pretty good. But Sando also mentioned that this QB mentioned Sam’s rookie contract, so I’m wondering if there’s any “haterism” coloring his judgement.
– The head coach who prefers Sam to Russell Wilson says that Wilson’s height (or lack thereof) results in him missing plays from the pocket. Sure, he gets out of the pocket to make plays, but he thinks defenses will adjust to keep him inside to force him to make those throws there. Sam? The coach feels he’s at home in the pocket and will make those throws that Wilson can’t.
– Sando says that, despite the mobile QB’s out there, the personnel people he talked to place a lot of weight on QB’s who can make plays from the pocket.
Interesting listen if you get the chance.
znModeratorI thought we were going to get to the part where you accused X of reading peoples PMs..
That;s alright, I already did.
And now you are just in taunt/fight mode?
If so movc on. That’s a direct mod statement.
My summary. YOu should not have over-reacted to one line by me in email when I was blocked. If you didn’t know I was blocked you were negligent…a ghost admin is not supposed to take out a board mod on the basis of some ancient grudge. That;s bad management on your part. I apologize for calling you a dick that one time when blocked. That’s not very professional. However, I didn’t do that because I was blocked–I did it because I was frustrated because #1 I naturally assumed you had blocked me, and #2 didn’t get why you were doing that instead of just raising whatever issue you presumably had. Or, if you’re going to give in to your apparently considerable temper, you could have just banned me and given notice to the buzz posters (instead of shutting it down and re-directing posters to ROD).
My bet is, yOu won’t apologize for heavy name-calling in this thread, for reasons anyone can speculate about. Running around on the Rams board with all those (several) little (now deleted) childish attack posts was beneath you (and that’s why you were banned…not because of this thread). To emphasize: you were not banned because of THIS thread. You were banned because you took it to the Rams board and kept putting up little TheRamsWon style flames, which I deleted. IMO, an owner with high aspirations for his own great site should not be acting like a PD board style flame warrior on someone else’s site.
We expect fake handles to show up here, but as long as they obey the rules they’re fine, and when they try to re-raise the old huddle wars it’s easy for everyone to spot.
If you think all your (as yet unposted) emails and PMs somehow take the onus off of you for dumping a site without notice, fine. Think that. My view is, if you thought I was a problem long before the 28th, you should have just banned me THEN and given the buzz posters notice.
That’s it. Thread closed. It’s now a repository for posts fighting about the take-down of the buzz and which also violate the rules (though I am going to draw a line on that, because some could take advantage and start writing attack posts just so I will move them here. I don’t intend to encourage that.)
I edited this to make it less “heat of the moment.” Substance is the same.
- This reply was modified 10 years, 6 months ago by zn.
znModeratorLOL.. you are yet again making shit up.
Lying to my face?
Lol. Time to delete this whole conversation.
Remember to check your pm.
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znModeratorHey my fault.. Let me tell my wife and 19 mo old daughter that we shouldnt go on vacations or go out of town any longer. My APOLOGIES for not devoting all my free time to this internet forum and instead chose to spend time with my family.
My bad.
Oh come on. Lol. I wasn’t talking about recently. The thing I refer to goes back weeks and weeks. When we first started the board you sent your your phone number and said call any time. After you bought ROD you said never to call and you didn’t have time. I wasn’t talking about recently, I am talking about weeks and weeks of non-communication.
And you have a pm.
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znModeratorfair enough..
So I am now going to assume that is fair game to post all PMs and Emails because you failed to answer that question 3 times.
I did answer the question. I directly said I can’t tell you what to post. But I take that back.
Those things serve no purpose unless you want to claim that we had issues. Since you never said we did, I am only going to tell you that you should have raised them. You seem to have enough time to talk tonight after weeks of saying you didn’t.
So no you can’t post them. I don’t know what they are, who they’re from, and how they pertain to the 28th. If you feel strongly enough, email them to me. That’s where this should go anyway.
znModeratorMy work is done.
No it isn’t apparently. It got edited somehow. Don’t know when. It’s minor though. I re=posted the original in my response.
From X’s post: I blocked you from ROD because of your constant pilfering of my posts, and because of your incessant whining about being talked about by guys like Les and Thor and Albe and Boffo
That stuff about “whining” is from him reading PMs. That’s the only thing it CAN be. And it’s exaggerated nonsense. Mods had to discuss Boffo because of a board conflict. We handled it professionally. I never mentioned Thor or Les or Albe in anything behind the scenes. You raised Boffo with me when he stopped posting for a short time. I asked you if you had deleted my name from posts attacking me. Actually that was mostly old, old ROD posters doing that. I thought it was very professional of you to do that, and I emphasized that old board wars were not to lead to personal sniping on the buzz. At the time I thought that was a professional exchange between a mod and a board owner. I didn’t know a ghost admin was reading PMs and was going to spin it his own little way in public later.
This is from my original response to X, above:
I never incessantly said anything about any poster at ROD (meaning, the ex-huddlers who still post there)…I double-checked on it with Bob to ask if he had zapped out the names posters were trying to bash. I asked if he had done that, and he said yes, and I basically said good job (because we had the same policy at the buzz, basically…no old wars. At the time I thought Bob and I were friends when I asked that…and for you to know it means you were reading buzz board PMs).
znModeratorThat’s all I heard when I went to the old board. Bzzzzzzzz…
Somebody had locked the front door, and I couldn’t get in. Had a bloody cake in the oven too.
Oh, well.
Where do you guys keep the sugar and flour around here?
We;re still sorting that out. In the meanwhile, welcome back from the void.
znModeratorI hope Bailey has enough athleticism to make plays in the NFL. Without the PEDs.
That’s what he was busted for, right? PEDs not pot?
Welcome aboard old friend.
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znModeratorIf it is really killing you to get an answer from me, read the post from X again. The answer is right in front of your face.
It’s not killing ME. LOl. It’s killing YOU. Meaning, in the light of public perception. You want to come across as an honest guy who ended up in a conflict and stuff happens. But by not answering that question, you make it look like you have something to hide. By me continuing to ask, that perception gets reinforced.
I mean it looks very different if you act all outraged about being accused when in fact that’s not the real story. You hid behind “plausible denial” and knew…at least before this conversation started last night, and probably earlier…that your own board mod was blocked and he did not know why.
Puts everything in a different light.
I know what X says. I am asking YOU, directly, what YOU knew.
And you evaded it so I take it the answer is yes. Yes, you knew.
Now if we’re done with this one thing we can move on. If not…that’s okay too.
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