Agamemnon wrote:

All the football people think Bradford has the better skills. Foles is better than Glennon or Hill or anyone else the Rams might have gotten to replace Bradford. imo Is he just filler until we find a real QB? Is he the answer at QB? He has demonstrated some potential, but anyone who makes it this far has to demonstrate some potential. Besides, we have no one under contract for next year. We solved the QB situation as best we could this year. imo We are still looking for a better answer for next year and beyond.

I agree with that.

I think they pulled a rabbit out of a hat.

He was just on WIP.

They were pretty nice to him(and the morning show guys can be pretty rough)and he repeated pretty much the same things. They did ask him if he viewed this as a one year audition because of his contract or if he was open to redoing it(can’t remember the exact words) and he tip toed around that. They also asked him what it was like to come to a city that embraced football. He said that he felt that at Oklahoma and he was excited about it. Talked about the difficulty of his rehabs.

I wish him only the best. He’s a good guy.

You can’t control for injuries but I hope things work out for him(unless they play the Rams of course).

Jim Thomas ‏@jthom1 13m13 minutes ago
Rams LB search heating up. This from NY Giants LB @jacquian57 Twitter, “Agent just spoke with St. Louis…Gotta stay prayed up.”

zn wrote:

wv wrote:
Foles isn’t a pressure quarterback
That’s my worry.

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Why Eagles Feel Great About Bradford

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/dave-spadaro/article-1/Why-Eagles-Feel-Great-About-Bradford/f02d6f96-669d-4382-a921-c9dda0f9c95b

Why Eagles Feel Great About Bradford

By Dave Spadaro
This was a move long in the works. The Eagles eyed Sam Bradford for weeks, and on Tuesday they made the move, acquiring Bradford in exchange for Nick Foles. Draft picks were involved. It was a huge move …

This was a move long in the works. The Eagles eyed Rams quarterback Sam Bradford for weeks, and on Tuesday they made the move, acquiring Bradford in exchange for Nick Foles. Draft picks were involved. It was a huge move.

A former No. 1 overall draft pick (2010), Bradford’s NFL career has been stunted by a lack of offensive talent around him early in his St. Louis tenure and by injuries late with the Rams. He played only seven games in 2013 after being pulled down on a run to the sidelines and tearing the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee and then missed all of 2014 when he was drilled in the pocket and tore the same ACL in the preseason opener.

An extremely talented quarterback who is 6-4 and 224 pounds, Bradford is able to make every throw from every position on the field. When the Eagles studied him — and they did so very, very extensively before the trade — they saw a quarterback with special accuracy, with touch, with a big arm. A quarterback who can get the ball out quickly, who can make fast, good decisions. Bradford is, the Eagles think, a classic pocket quarterback with just enough mobility to work the pocket well and keep plays alive.

And so a deal was done on Tuesday, one that brings to Philadelphia the quarterback that head coach Chip Kelly wants. He wanted Sam Bradford. He identified Sam Bradford as a special talent who can make this offense soar. It cost the Eagles Foles, and everyone wishes him the best of luck. It cost the Eagles a second-round draft pick in 2016 and a swap of picks in 2015 that is a difference of, roughly, 20 spots in the draft after compensatory picks are considered.

It is a gamble, no question about that. Kelly isn’t afraid to make difficult, out-of-the-box decisions. But it is a gamble with a lot of upside because the Eagles think Bradford has the goods to be a franchise-type quarterback.

The misconception, perhaps, is that the offense the Eagles is one that we saw at Oregon, where the quarterback was mobile and a running threat. That’s not what the Eagles are offensively. The Eagles can run the football effectively with their running backs — and there is a need there that will be filled — and their blocking scheme, and they need a quarterback who can be accurate, who can play tempo football and who can get the ball to the receivers — a need position that the Eagles will address — in a timely fashion down the field and in the short passing game.

Bradford, the Eagles feel, can do it all. He had his troubles in St. Louis throwing to the likes of Brandon Lloyd and Brandon Gibson and Danny Amendola and Austin Pettis and Lance Kendricks and Laurent Robinson and Greg Salas and Jared Cook and Tavon Austin. The Rams didn’t have much other than Steven Jackson running the football to exhaustion working with a pretty bad offensive line.

And they had Bradford. And they pinned all of their hopes on him and just didn’t give him much help as he absorbed 105 sacks in his first three seasons (42 games) and another 15 in the seven games he played in 2013 when Bradford threw 14 touchdown passes and four interceptions. Oh, and consider this: Bradford has five games (of 49 played) in which he has thrown multiple interceptions. Foles and Mark Sanchez combined for seven multiple-interception games last season alone.

That’s the player the Eagles think they have acquired, a special talent with far more upside than they saw with Foles — and no lack of respect for him. He was very productive here and everyone wishes Foles the best of luck in St. Louis — or any other quarterback they saw in the market — free agency or the draft. The Eagles, despite the overwhelming rush by the media and fans to think otherwise, were not going to move up, up, up in the draft and take Oregon’s Marcus Mariota, the Heisman Trophy winner whom Kelly recruited. Nor did the Eagles feel their best option was to stay put and stick with Foles and extend his contract for the future.

Certainly, the deal hinges on Bradford remaining healthy and staying on the field for this offense. He had a concussion and some shoulder injuries at Oklahoma. He has the two ACL injuries and a shoulder injury in the NFL. Only twice in his five seasons has Bradford played a full 16 games.

The Eagles believe in their sports science program and their strength and conditioning program and they have the plan to put the right pieces around Bradford to help him stay healthy and make him more productive than he’s been in his career.

That’s why the Eagles did the deal, one on which they worked extremely hard and one that was, according to reports, off and on a couple of times — at least — in the last few weeks. They got the quarterback they wanted, one they think can be special in this offense. You may like the deal. You may not. You may have questions that just don’t have answers right now, specifically how the Eagles will replace the production from departed running back LeSean McCoy and wide receiver Jeremy Maclin and the weapons Kelly and vice president of player personnel Ed Marynowitz will bring in between now and September. Fair enough.

Wins and losses will dictate the wisdom of this decision. It was gutsy, no doubt about it. But being gutsy and having conviction is why Chairman and CEO Jeffrey Lurie hired Kelly after the 2012 4-12 season. Twenty regular-season victories and a playoff appearance was a nice way to start Kelly’s NFL head coaching career, but it wasn’t the goal. Winning the whole thing is the objective, and the Eagles wanted the best quarterback they could get and Kelly wanted Bradford and then went out and made the deal.

Sam Bradford is the quarterback Kelly thinks can operate this offense to maximum efficiency. That’s why he is an Eagle today.

Nick Foles ‏@NFoles_9 4h4 hours ago
.@STLouisRams I’m excited for this new chapter and looking forward to what’s ahead in St. Louis. Go Rams!

Oops. Posted in wrong thread…ah well–it’s late.

So I’m at work tonight when all hell breaks loose.

A guy comes up and says he got an alert on his phone: the Rams traded Bradford for Foles.

WTF!

Didn’t see that coming.

So anyway, the Eagles fans hate the deal, hate Bradford, and are hoping that the deal isn’t finished–that it’s all part of some scheme to get Mariota. I saw some depression tonight–and they all believe they got the worst of the deal.

I see that some Rams fans also seem ready to jump off bridges.

As I said before when asked about Foles, I don’t watch the Eagles so I really don’t know any more than anyone else. I know that the Eagles fans don’t hate him. He does have a winning record. While they may not view him as Andrew Luck, they are comfortable with him.

I like this deal.

I like it and I don’t think that Bradford gave the Rams much choice. If he was willing to take a pay cut(not that he HAD to)the Rams probably would have brought him back. But there was no way they were giving him 12 million and I’m glad. While Bradford may never get injured again, while he may thrive for Kelly and go on to win playoff games or Superbowls, I will not criticize Snead and Fisher for the move. Because it’s also just as likely he gets injured again, never plays another down or just plays at a mediocre level. He was never Rodgers or Brees and no one claimed he was. Most people viewed him as a game manage type of QB who could win games.

I don’t know why Nick Foles can’t be that as well. But he doesn’t have the bad knee.

The Rams got the better of this deal and huge cap relief.

Now we have to see what they do in free agency and the draft.

But I’m feeling pretty good about this deal tonight.

Everything looks so simple when you’re watching the film. But the set-up, camera positioning, positioning of the actors, all have to be right. “The Shining” and “Apocalypse Now” probably had my favorite cinematography of any film I’ve seen.

zn wrote:

I realize there are not really a lot of places to move to but I do agree with Bernie about Bradford cutting the Rams a break, considering how his career has gone.

Who else in Bradford’s position in the history of the NFL has done that?

Younger pro in his second contract territory coming back from injuries.

Who has ever treated that as them “owing” the team something?

First you’d have to tell me who has been in Bradford’s position.

I mean, I honestly don’t know. And even if there are a bunch of these guys who have(can’t think of them) it shouldn’t matter. Each situation is unique. And frankly, as I said, I get it. He doesn’t HAVE to do it. The Rams don’t HAVE to pay him either. I hope they don’t if he maintains his position.

I wish him well.