Mostly, I remember people talking about the 4th or 5th round–a developmental guy. They waited til the 6th and took Gilbert so that’s not much difference, I guess.

In hindsight I would have preferred they take a QB in the second round.

I am the “hindsight” analyst. It’s just what I do. but even then–would any of these guys be better than Hill right now? Of course not–it’s more a a future thing.

But this is not going to dampen my enthusiasm for this year. Fisher even said, everyone knows they will be a run first offense. They have a strong defense(yeah–I worry about the secondary)and guys like Robinson will only get better. Hill can make the throws they need to win games. That’s all I care about.

They are in the spot they are–period. No one can rewind this. We have no idea what will happen until it plays out.

Will they be in the 8-8 range again–picking middle of the 1st round?

Will they be awful and get the #1 pick?

Will they make the playoffs?

It’s just a matter of seeing how it plays out. I don’t think they should have to significantly alter their plans under Hill.

But what happens if Hill goes down?

I just suspect they aren’t completely happy with the situation and WILL bring in another guy and go with 3 QBs this year. Someone will shake loose and I expect they will pounce on him. I don’t expect a trade unless it’s for very minimal.

Let the games begin.

wv wrote:

They are not gonna cut him.
Not happnin.

And i am pretty sure
he’ll be ready to compete again
next year. Who knows,
maybe he plays all sixteen games
next year and leads them to a ring.
Comeback player of the year.
Who knows.

They’ll draft a QB though,
thats for sure. Maybe more
than one. Probably look
at some Vets too.

Can you imagine how Bradford
must feel right now?

w
v

I agree. I just can’t see it.

I was just thinking of Sam. His whole career is one big question mark now. You heart has to go out to him.

InvaderRam wrote:

yeah. i can’t think of another starting qb with the injury history this guy has had who’s made it.

alex smith?

he had a shoulder injury which they chose not to do surgery on. they finally decided to have surgery on it when they realized it wouldn’t heal on its own.

then he had to have a second shoulder surgery. mind you this was not necessarily contact related rather it was related to a wire they had left from the first surgery.

besides that he blew out his knee.

bradford has had three major ligament injuries. he had an ankle injury which still hadn’t healed going into the next season i believe.

and i’m just taking a guess at this. but my guess is one ligament tear is bad enough. the prognosis for a SECOND tear on the SAME ligament. my guess is the prognosis takes a huge dip.

Just saw some doctor a little while ago on ESPN talking about it. He said should be a longer recovery time(a year) and arthritis could be a problem. He said Sam could come back but it’s going to be a long road. I know this doesn’t matter in terms of how the Rams approach this but it was just some general comments on this type of injury.

I don’t know, GRITS. I’d have to see it in a regular season game to believe he’s capable of being the starter.

For now, I don’t mind giving him a shot at back-up and if Hill gets hurt, we’ll see. But I’ll stick with Hill and his experience for now.

Back-ups CAN win Superbowls.

Tom Brady
Kurt Warner
Trent Dilfer
Doug Williams
Jeff Hostetler
Jim Plunkett
Earl Morrall

It CAN and DOES happen.

Keep the faith.

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I think they’ll keep him but they will look for a starter–a young guy–in the draft and, as you said, next year is his last year. At best he will placehold the position for the rookie they’ll bring in. They certainly won’t give him big money now. He is no longer their guy. They have no choice but to move on in terms of the future. I don’t know if they save anything by letting him go at the end of this year–unless it’s a significant cap move.

Otherwise, they will hope that Hill can do a bit more than Clemens did. Davis has to be the back-up for now, unless they bring in another vet. Some interesting choices ahead.

Thanks Ag!

Some guys do–for whatever reason–seem to get more injured than others. I’m looking at you Rodger Saffold. If Amendola were here I’d be looking at him too. Some bodies just don’t hold up well. It’s nothing personal–it’s just the way it is. Some guys can walk through trains and it doesn’t matter. Other guys can’t tie their shoes without pulling a shoulder out of joint.

Bradford doesn’t have a great history.

Hopefully he dodged a bullet this time. But I am concerned about it.

Holy crap!

Just getting ready to watch the game and it looks like the Rams got clobbered with injuries tonight.

They can’t afford that.

If Johnson is done that really hurts.

If Bradford can’t stay healthy we are in big trouble. If he can’t play this year because of injuries the Rams will seriously have to look at moving on. I didn’t want to worry about QB this year. Now I do.

My boss is a HUGE fantasy football nut.

Anyway, every year I toss out a Rams player for him to consider.

Last year it was….Jared Cook. I know, I know.

So this year, a couple weeks ago he asked me about the Rams and I said…well, he’s suspended for 4 games but…Stedman Bailey.

He never heard of him. I informed him that IMO he was the Rams best receiver…by far.

After the Packers game I said to him….get Brian Quick.

I couldn’t even believe I was saying it. I know–it was two good plays on his part. Do we need to see more? Of course. But seeing it and reading the glowing reports makes me a bit excited about the potential for Quick.

For the record, he just kind of nodded thoughtfully and then said, hopefully: “I may draft the Rams defense.”

Okay.

But hey–I tried to give him a good tip.

Maybe he still remembers Cook.

It’s a sort of sloppiness I’d like them to clean up. Yes–they aren’t sure where to be right now(at least the young guys)they aren’t scheming for teams, they aren’t even going 100 percent. But the one thing that bothers me is sloppiness. Sloppy tackling. That’s fundamentals stuff. On that first Lacy run they missed 4 tackles! That can’t happen. They need to clean that up. On the other hand, the Packers did not miss tackles. Even when a Ram had space, when the Packer player got there they wrapped up and ended the play.

That has to be fixed.

I think they are trying to put Tavon in the right position for space. It’s just refining things. Faulk made a great point on that pass in the Packers game where Sam hit Tavon crossing in front of the linebacker. If he just waits a second for Tavon to clear the face of the linebacker and then hits him with the pass, Tavon has all kinds of room. He likely would have scored. He hit him a little early and the linebacker was able to make the tackle. Those are little things to work out, things between receiver and quarterback. But they know what they need to do with Tavon, I think. When everything clicks it’s going to be fun to watch.

zn wrote:

GreatRamNTheSky wrote:
I watched Donald, in fact focused on his play and I was not that impressed. Is this guy everyone is raving about in camp?
If so, when is it going to translate to games?

Grits

Because what you watched isn’t Donald. What you watched was Donald taking Brockers role in the defense with Brockers out. Donald isn’t Brockers, he wasn’t drafted to play that role, and he wasn’t going to look good doing it.

I thought with Donald last night they just sent him out there to take some hard reps as part of a learning curve.

When they use him the way he was drafted to be used, we will have more to judge him by.

Basically it was like asking Rod Perry to play MLB. Rod Perry not being able to play MLB doesn’t mean he can’t play what he is supposed to play.

While I agree with that–he has to be able to shed single blocks. On that Rodgers scramble the lineman was glued to him. But I agree that he will benefit in how they use him and if the intent was to just let him work hard this week it was a success. But on the other hand, he was sort of set up for failure. Hopefully it benefits him when they set him up for success. I’m not worried about him. I think he just needs time.

And you know what? Torry Holt has never impressed me as being very bright. He’s a poorish commentator, IMO, who rarely offers more than platitudes and fuzziness.

Yeah–he offers something once in a while but I don’t think he has much of a future as a broadcaster. Last week he kept saying Ray-Ray Mcdonald. Five minutes into this week’s broadcast he said the same thing. Come on Torry–you gotta get the names right.

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