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  • in reply to: Ukraine #137190
    Cal
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    I understand wanting to acknowledge the problems that the EU, America, & their allies have created. But to NOT acknowledge Russia as the primary, secondary, tertiary, and so on problem in the Ukraine war seems to diminish the suffering of Ukranians. Russia, even though starting a war with your neighbor is a terrible idea unless you’re Saudi Arabia, invaded Ukraine.

    This video seems to diminish what looks like a clear and vocal Ukranian majority that is not just crazy Nazis or far-right fascists. Ukranians, based on their willingness to die defending a country led by a Jewish president & fighting a war against the far superior Russian foe, just want to be independent from Russia.

    Focusing on this war as an ugly battle between capitalist gangs makes me wonder how Ukraine fits into this story. Isn’t it natural that they want to move away from Russian influence?

    For their last 20 years, Ukraine seems to have been dominated by pro-Russian politicians. That’s what the Euromaidan stuff of 2014 seems to be about to me. A quick read of Wikipedia seems to challenge your video with this:

    “November 2013 saw the beginning of a series of events that led to his ousting as president. Yanukovych [the president who was ousted by the so-called ‘coup’] rejected a pending EU association agreement, choosing instead to pursue a Russian loan bailout and closer ties with Russia. This led to protests and the occupation of Kyiv’s Independence Square, a series of events dubbed the “Euromaidan” by proponents of aligning Ukraine toward the European Union”

    I wonder who the “Russian loan” would have benefited–Ukraine or Russia! I don’t know much about Ukraine’s recent political history, but the more I read, the more it sounds like this a Putin pattern. Putin and Russia dominate their neighbors and put their guys in charge. Putin’s Russia seems to have a habit of putting their guys in charge of other non-NATO countries. Isn’t that what Belarus and Georgia have?

    Is the west really to blame for Ukraine’s desire to escape the orbit of a domineering, corrupt Russian system? It makes sense that Ukranians would want to escape that. And this war seems to suggest they seem are willing to die to escape it.

    And why does this Marxist critique, if that’s what the Finnish-Bolshevik is,  miss, diminish, or slightly distort an important part of this story, the Ukranian struggle? These are people frustrated by being shackled to a corrupt Russian system for generations.

    Here’s a quote from Wendell Berry that I thought was connected to this whole idea, but maybe it’s not. It’s too late for me to figure out the connection now, but I won’t delete it because….

    “What I am has been to a considerable extent determined by what my forebears were, by how they chose to treat this place while they lived in it; the lives of most of them diminished it, and limited its possibilities, and narrowed its future. And every day I am confronted by the question of what inheritance I will leave. What do I have that I am using up? For it has been our history that each generation in this place has been less welcome to it than the last. There has been less here for them. At each arrival there has been less fertility in the soil, and a larger inheritance of destructive precedent and shameful history.”

    in reply to: Ukraine #137116
    Cal
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    My view is completely different.   My analogy (dueling analogies all over the internet on this) is…oh….a bear.  In a cage.  With a sign.  “Dont poke the bear, it has nuclear weapons.”   And Mr Nato Countries comes along and pokes the bear.  Repeatedly.   And the bear warns Mr Nato Countries repeatedly.  And…more poking.

    The bear than decides to erupt.   Yes its a specific decision by the bear.

    No, he doesnt ‘have’ to erupt.    But do i only blame the bear?   Nah, I blame both.

    Wouldn’t a better metaphor be–your dumb ass, drunken buffoon of a neighbor buys a big old pit bull. He, of course, treats the dog like shit and doesn’t train it.

    One day, the dog gets out and bites your daughter in the face. You get to spend a whole day in the ER, your daughter has a scar on her face for the rest of her life, and when you call the cops they don’t do shit.

    You put up a fence and tell your neighbor if you see his dog in your yard you’re going to shoot it. He spends the next decade pissing on your fence in front of your 8 year old daughter before one day he tears it down and has a bunch of his buddies attack you.

    This analogy is getting unwieldy here, but you get the point, right?

    Yes, NATO expanded before Putin ever came to power. But was that because the west coerced countries like Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, etc. or because those countries lived with corrupt Soviet control for years and felt legitimately threatened by their large, nuclear power neighbor who had a history of expanding its borders with imperialistic zeal?

    The only means of security and independence for some of those countries is nuclear weapons or joining NATO.

    This seems like an easy choice to me.

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    in reply to: Ukraine #137022
    Cal
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    That video really condenses a complicated reality of the independent countries surrounding Russia–Ukraine, Estonia, Lithuania–into an almost Russian propaganda characterization: All of this area has been part of the Russian empire for centuries.

    Maybe, but a lot of those countries are also very distinct from Russia: Many of those countries speak their own language, have their own customs, and as you can see when they have a choice, consider themselves independent from Russia.

    Another added complexity is that Russians have been attempting to essentially colonize these areas for years now. That’s the story of my wife’s grandparents in Estonia.

    Supposedly my mother-in-law’s father was run over by a Russian tank as Russians fought Nazis. Russians, supposedly, just took my mother-in-law’s house and property and they had to flee to Germany where the Americans were stationed after WWII.

    She had to leave Estonia forever because she had no longer had property in Estonia as Russians just took it over.

    This is just anecdotal, but I believe it is a significant part of the story and helps explain why a lot of countries surrounding Russia really do believe it is the Evil Empire

    I’ll add that the video’s theory that Russia wants to take over Ukraine to protect its borders from invasion sounds ridiculous because Russia is a nuclear power.

    Yes, the US has started wars to remove leaders of other countries, but no one who is not completely crazy is going to start a war with a nuclear power like Russia. Invading Russia would be absolutely crazy.

    in reply to: MAGA Analysis from Greenwald substack #131028
    Cal
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    They see that the establishment is working to thwart their ambitions, and destabilize their livelihoods. But they don’t accurately understand what forces are at work in that reality, what their objectives are, and how and why they do what they are doing. They think it’s a bunch of dumbass liberals trying to take the fruits of their labor and give it to various undeserving minorities out of some misplaced morality. They see clearly that the establishment is not working to help them and protect them. They’ve just completely misdiagnosed the causes.

    I am extremely interested in this critique from the right. Part of the problem for people who are frustrated with the establishment that almost literally “takes the fruits of their labor” is that this is a challenging problem to understand. Wendell Berry actually refers to parts of Trump America as being a colony that is exploited by the big cities and other farm writers talk about how these people are too busy working and fighting a losing financial battle to diagnose the root causes of their problems.

    I didn’t see anything in the article from the original post that even comes close to addressing that perspective, so I got bored with that article. But I think it is interesting to look at the American farmers who supported Trump and, in many cases, still do.

    I watch very little cable news or MSM, but I don’t think regular folks in the midwest who grow our food do have their problems covered by the big news orgs. Their troubles are ignored for the most part.

    Here’s a quick and hopefully relevant passage from a book from a sheep farmer in England’s Lake District and his neighbors who are frustrated with the “establishment,” which may or may not be true of American farmers & Trump-supporters:

    Then comes the voice of another man–who I don’t know–sitting in an old armchair in the corner. He says everything is being driven by money, the greed of big business and a few farmers who push for more and more and undermine the rest. We are bloody fools, he says, we just end up chasing each other down to the bottom. If we make money with a hundred cows, we want another fifty to make more, and, if we are losing money, we want another fifty to get out of the hole. Either way, it is always more, more. David’s son turns to me and says, ‘it just isn’t fun anymore.’

    These men were always fairly conservative with a small ‘c.’ I know because I listed to them when they were younger and I was a child. But something changed. There was always sense in what they had to say. Now there is radicalism too. And they are right although I am shocked that they see it the same way I do. I thought I had grown away from them, but the truth is we have all grown away from the same bad ideas. We are all grasping to understand what has happened and how we might climb out of it. Then, because we are all a little suspicious of such serious political talk, we spontaneously get up to go for pudding, and shuffle into the kitchen like penguins in a queue. And then we sit and eat, thinking of other things to talk about, like the football.

    in reply to: MAGA Analysis from Greenwald substack #130913
    Cal
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    No. They’re not ready to listen. And, no, their not skeptical of state surveillance, if it’s done to their enemies, which includes all of us lefties, BLM, etc. They’re clearly solely concerned if they think it’s done to them, especially Trump. Since we know Trump used state security to go after his political enemies, including the media, and the right never said a thing about . . . it’s a one-way street. He did absolutely nothing to improve its record of civil liberties abuses. He made them worse.

    As for helping the poor and working classes? What? When? Where?, etc. I’ve seen zero indication that they’re ready to tackle poverty, inequality, or anything remotely connected to these things. Their own perceived economic difficulties? Sure. But they don’t see people of color and “the left” as a part of the American story. For the right, it’s always about them, and just them, and their drowning in lies.

    Again, hoping others will weigh in.

    Good thoughts Billy. I couldn’t make it through the section of the article where Cooper talked about how Trumpies cared deeply about Russia-gate, followed it closely, and knew the facts of the case better than most. I had to stop there.

    At their best, the Right deals in half-truths & at their worst they work with complete fiction–Like the idea that Trump and company were really interested in helping regular Americans.

    As soon as Biden and the dems started a real program where families like mine got a little extra, the Right and Fox News howl endlessly about inflation. (I’m guessing Fox is amplifying and spreading this message).

    I am sometimes curious and sympathetic about the Right’s anti-establishment stance. I think the Right does have a sense that the world has changed for the worse, but you’re right that sentiment is often tangled up with their racism and failure to help dig minorities out of a hole created by years of racism.

    in reply to: 9ers trade up to 3rd pick of NFL Draft #128695
    Cal
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    Maybe Shanahan ain’t such a genius

    Replacing Garropolo with a qb on the rookie scale frees up massive cap space for the 9ers next year. I’d be shocked if the 9ers ditch Jimmy G for the 2021 season.

    With the money the Niners save by moving on from Jimmy G, they’ll be able to pick up a high demand FA or a couple key guys.

    The Rams, I think, are already over next year’s cap, btw.

    in reply to: continuing “the trade” talk (Goff, Stafford) #128636
    Cal
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    Kurt Warner. Marc Bulger. I don’t know. I don’t follow other teams.

    But we’re not talking about “some struggles.” Everybody has “some struggles.”

    Bulger threw 22 ints with 7 fumbles when he was 26 like Goff was this year. That was his fourth year in the league and first full year starting.

    The next year he threw 14 ints in only 14 games.

    The Lions and Holmes, meanwhile, seem like they are committing to Goff as they just freed up a bunch of cap space for this year by converting Goff’s 2021 salary to a bonus and pushing his $$$ onto future years of their cap.

    Aren’t you concerned that all signs point to Holmes and the Lions investing in Goff?

    You might want to save some of that dog doo for my house too.

    in reply to: continuing “the trade” talk (Goff, Stafford) #128627
    Cal
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    Heck the Rams used disguised coverages expertly against Brady in the superbowl and that was the first postseason game where the Brady Patriots were held to 13 (or fewer) points since 2012. Previous to that it was 2005.

    Brady also suffered from a serious lack of talent around him. In 2019, he threw for only 24 tds compared to 40+ this year with the Bucs talented receivers.

    I found this whole part of the article from one “team source” puzzling.

    “Goff struggled to recognize coverage disguises and didn’t consistently identify coverage post snap as the play developed. When a defense ran Cover 0 with no safeties deep, his decision-making process often didn’t happen quickly enough to hit the big play.

    “As a quarterback, you can’t lose games,” a team source said. “We just needed him to manage it and do his part.””

    McVay’s plan often this year was to put the ball in Goff’s hands. I distinctly remember McVay attacking the Bears and the Bucs with Goff and the passing game. That plan worked in those two games. McVay approached the Miami game the same way, but that didn’t work at all.

    The problem for the Rams is that they don’t have anyone that truly scares defenses AND the o-line is average at best. There are NO, ZERO, pro-bowl players to place around the qb, aside from the 39 year old LT.

    Even the Lions have a couple of pro-bowl players. If you want to punish teams for blitzing or loading the box, you need a Gurley, Cooks, or Sammy Watkins to make some big plays.

    The Rams still don’t have that. And they still have an average o-line with a 33 year old qb who prides himself on being tough enough to take hits so that he can make plays down the field.

    This really seems like a bad plan for the future. Kind of like expecting John wolford to step in play like Drew Brees. I wonder what happened to the team’s excitement for “Baby Brees”?

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    in reply to: We are set up to fail #128103
    Cal
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    I agree with Herzog. I’m not real optimistic about next season either.

    After that horrible play-off loss, I’m wondering just how good that defense actually is.

    They played against some bad offenses last year: Washington football team, Patriots, Giants, Jets, Eagles, Dolphins (with a rookie qb in his first start), and the Cards with a banged-up Kyler Murray. Murray was a much better qb in the first 10 games last year before he got hurt.

    And that defense will probably lose two good players in Floyd and Johnson. I really would like to see the Rams re-sign Floyd, but how does that happen with their cap situation?

    I’m not sure that I like the vibes I’m getting from the Raheem Morris hire either. Has he ever coached a top 5 defense?

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127847
    Cal
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    And the country is DIVIDED on whether it was really such a bad thing or not.

    AND…there is hardly a whimper of outrage from the public. Americans just really aren’t all that interested in it outside of the usual circle of people who follow politics for a hobby much the same way as we follow football. The entire country got upset at 9/11, and the Challenger disaster, and whatever, but this shit show got pretty low ratings, and America was – you know – flipping ahead in the book to see how many more pages were left. They wanted it to just be over somehow.

    Doesn’t this contradict your theory about how the Dems avoided trying to destroy the Republican party with the impeachment trial?

    The Republicans again and again object to Trump’s impeachment proceedings with the stupid arguments that the Trump impeachments will make impeachment a normal and common affair, instead of a last resort.

    It’s a stupid argument because impeachment proceedings are suicide for a majority party unless there is outrage about a politicians’s behavior.

    Republicans just ignore the importance of the political will of the country. And that’s partly why I don’t buy the theory about Dems ignoring witnesses to avoid destroying the Republican party.

    The Dems realize that they are just barely beating the Republicans–there’s not a large margin of error here even with the terrible and incompetent government that Trump led the last 4 years.

    Yes, it is depressing that 47% of American voters support someone like Trump, but how is that the Dems fault?

    I don’t see conspiracy here–just a country filled with selfish people who hate taxes, religious people who could care less about the 1st Amendment, and racists.

    in reply to: the trial and its effects #127826
    Cal
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    Which is why, to state the obvious, the elites HAVE to control
    the Duplicat-Party. They HAVE to derail any progressive leanings
    in the Dem Party.

    I also think another reason no witnesses were called is because
    the Dems were afraid of something. They were afraid of what
    the REP Witnesses would say about Dems.

    I don’t think the Dems were scared of anything except dragging the trial out when they knew they would lose.

    There was no way the Republicans would convict Trump. No way at all.

    I only heard snippets of the trial, but I did hear that Trump’s lawyers threatened to turn the process of calling witnesses into a long, drawn out process.

    I think the conventional thinking is that the majority of voters don’t want a long, confusing impeachment trial. They want Washington working on solving problems.

    The conventional thinking may well be right. I don’t know. Republicans were right that the Ukraine impeachment trial probably hurt Democrats more than Trump. Remember that the Democrats are dealing with voters who almost voted for Trump after watching the horror show of the last 4 years.

    How dumb are Americans that they almost chose Trump again? If not for a historical turn-out, we’d be looking at another 4 years of Trump’s disastrous attitude towards climate change and the environment, an economy that works for the future, and everything else he ruins.

    That’s one of the things Dems are concerned with–the fickle and stupid American voters who almost chose Trump again.

    in reply to: the first Stafford thread #127629
    Cal
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    this should be real interesting.

    we always talk about how much a system makes a player. and how much the player makes the system.

    nature vs nurture even.

    the story is this is a super talented qb not just physically. but mentally he’s got what you want in a pro qb as well. he’s just been stuck in a crappy situation.

    how does he do when he’s got all that support around him? not just players but a system that should maximize his talents.

    i’m interested to see how it goes.

    I’m expecting some head scratching moments from Stafford. Watch some highlights of the Lions games.

    He may be good at analyzing the D pre-snap, but once the action starts Stafford is tough and wants to make plays, but he can press & make mistakes. Sound familiar?

    In the opening game of last year, with the Lions ahead against the Bears Stafford took a bad sack that resulted in a 57 yard fg that the Lions missed, of course.

    On the next possession with like 3 minutes left, Stafford threw late over the middle into the middle of two Bears. The ball bounced in the air and the Bears grabbed the int to take over in Lions territory.

    Stafford DID lead an impressive last minute drive. The Lions rookie rb, of course, dropped a good pass that should have been the game-winning td. I don’t know if I’ve seen a Rams loss like that, ever. Man, it would be hard to be a Lions fan.

    Anyways, from what I’ve seen, Stafford is a guy who will take chances trying to make plays & he will make mistakes. I don’t see how a 33 year old qb changes at this point of his career, especially playing behind the Rams o-line.

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    in reply to: Exclusive: Jared Goff LATimes interview with Sam Farmer #127534
    Cal
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    Cal’s Official Ram’s Head Coach Leaders in Being a Dick

    1. Jeff Fisher–There’s no 7-9 Bullshit here. Jeff Fisher is a champ at being a dick.

    2. Sean McVay–He’s moved up the rankings as he’s moved from being a magic qb whisperer to qb mumbler (“He’s the qb mmmer…mmmmeeh..right now.”)

    3. Scott Linehan–He feuded with Ike & Torry. I’m sure there’s more that I forgot but that’s enough.

    4. Mike Martz–He’s more doofus than douche. Martz recently hired Larry Marmie as his DC in his most recent return to coaching. Shakespeare wrote King Lear during a pandemic–I googled Larry Marmie.

    5. Spags–If / when he beats Tom Brady again in the super bowl, can we begin to say it’s criminal that he hasn’t had a 2nd chance at being a head coach. The only blemish on his record is taking a job with a crap organization like the Rams organization.

    7. Dick Vermeil–The only Dick on the list was my favorite non-dick.

    in reply to: Exclusive: Jared Goff LATimes interview with Sam Farmer #127531
    Cal
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    “I’m not going to sit here and beat my own drum, but I have a lot of pride in being able to be resilient, to have that as a part of my makeup. We had so many great times here, and then there were times that I did have to dig deep, be a man about it, and handle things the right way. I think I did that.”

    Ha! That’s a nice closing shot from Goff. I will definitely be rooting for him next year.

    McVay looks like a real dick after this and has moved into the territory of Jeff Fisher here for me. Even without his 7-9 Bullshit, Fisher wasn’t easy to root for.

    And, Fisher, of course, wasn’t very good at leading a winning NFL franchise. I feel like McVay is going down the same road if he feels that substituting Stafford for Goff makes the Rams a legit super bowl contender. Giving a coach too much control over personnel is always tricky. The Rams might be giving McVay too much here.

    This quote from the Peter King article and some of the rhetoric about this team as legit Super Bowl contenders from the talking heads baffles me:
    McVay said “It’s not about winning the trade. It’s about winning the Super Bowl.”

    After this trade, I’m finding it hard to root for a McVay-led team.

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    in reply to: how in the heck do they upgrade this oline? #127487
    Cal
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    I’m gonna guess that there isn’t much of a plan here.

    Ignoring the O-line might be a major weakness for McVay & Snead. Not re-signing Saffold in 2019 looks like a major mistake in retrospect. The plan to replace Saffold & Sullivan was lousy in 2019.

    We’ll see what the rest of the off-season brings, but not upgrading this o-line when the best player is probably the LOT who will be 40 years old? That’s not an inspiring plan.

    Especially for a 33 year old quarterback who historically takes a lot of sacks.

    in reply to: the first Stafford thread #127470
    Cal
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    I’ve watched 3 or 4 Lions game highlights on Youtube from the last couple of years just out of curiosity.

    In those games (Bears 1st game, Colts, Saints) Stafford makes some back-breaking mistakes. He’s a guy who takes some bad sacks and throws some bad ints trying to make plays.

    I don’t know if this Rams team with just a decent o-line and pretty good weapons is going to suddenly elevate Stafford to that top level of qbs. The idea that the Rams are a serious super bowl contender after this trade seems real iffy to me.

    Stafford was on pace to have one of his best seasons last year before he missed the last half of the season. Stafford was on pace for 38 tds and 10 ints in his first year with Bevell, Russell Wilson’s old OC, as his OC.

    Looking at this post season and the teams in the championships game, I wonder if having some dynamic players at the skill positions is essential today. The Chiefs have Hill, the Bucs have Evans & Godwin, the Bills have Diggs, and the Packers had Adams.

    I don’t think the Rams have anyone close to that level.

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    in reply to: Silver on Goff and the trade #127419
    Cal
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    I remember watching one game and Aikman–who I like–talking about McVay not feeling the pressure to make “perfect” calls or something. Maybe someone else with a better memory can remember the comment better.

    Anyways, I thought Aikman’s comment was dumb / annoying because I often think McVay would be better served just giving the ball to Cam.

    It seems very possible now that Aikman was channeling McVay with those comments and maybe that little comment reveals some of the behind-the-scenes frustration between McVay and Goff.

    I find it very interesting that the Lions are excited about Goff. If the Lions and their ex-Ram GM use their top-10 pick this year to help build a team around Goff, isn’t that a troubling sign for the Rams?

    in reply to: the first Stafford thread #127413
    Cal
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    right now i’m thinking hey let’s see how stafford does with an actual running game.

    maybe he has a carson palmer like resurgence toward the end of his career. he could potentially have another five years left in him.

    also i feel sorry for goff. i wouldn’t wish the detroit lions on any player. he’s not gonna get much in the way of support with that organization.

    I posted this in the other thread, but I’ll repeat it here. The Lions have a lot of interesting talent on the offensive side of the ball including a first round LOT who they just extended, a former first round center who was second team all-pro this year, and their RT is an expensive free agent who started for Philly when they won the Super Bowl in 2017.

    Ya know the Rams were a pathetic laughing stock until they bought in some talent and good coaching and weren’t anymore.

    Even with that line, Stafford was sacked 38 times last year. Dude needs to learn throw the ball way.

    in reply to: the first Stafford thread #127377
    Cal
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    I have no idea who the best team in the West is. They all
    look bunched up to me. I suppose injuries will decide it.

    Maybe, but I love the way the Shanahans play football going back to Mike Shanahan’s days with the Broncos. I think the 9ers ability to run and play defense is a winning formula so I am definitely biased.

    McVay seems to be intent on using the pass to set up the run at times. That definitely seemed like his answer this year against some good defenses like the Bucs & Bears this year.

    I’m not convinced that will work, especially with this line. We’ll see.

    in reply to: the first Stafford thread #127373
    Cal
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    The Rams look like a better team with Stafford at qb. He can do some impressive things. But he doesn’t look like a top tier guy.

    I watched about 10 minutes of Youtube highlights and saw Stafford take a ridiculous sack and fumble in the end zone 3 years ago against the Saints and also throw a dumb Int in the red zone against the Saints last year. Uggh.

    Hopefully, the Rams are making a wise bet that some of their young guys–Brycen Hopkins, Anchrum, Jefferson, and maybe Brian Allen–will be talented players.

    The 9ers still look like a better team and should be the team favored to win the West.

    in reply to: Stafford is a Ram, Goff is a Lion #127371
    Cal
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    Defenses have successfully pressured Goff with four players — creating less favorable offensive situations downfield — but Wolford’s ability to move demanded more attention with extra rushers. Free rushers couldn’t cover the bootlegs the Rams love to use, because Wolford got into them faster and moved them away from that pressure when needed. Against the Cardinals, whose defensive game plan dared Wolford to throw in an effort to contain the Rams’ run game, McVay appreciated how his entire offense and the quarterback weren’t dependent on successfully running the ball.

    I am not that impressed with this writer even though she gets all kind of praise. This paragraph is just dumb.

    The Cardinals are not a real play-off caliber defense with talented pass rushers, like the 49ers with Nick Bossa. McVay and the Rams are usually fine against teams like the Cards, but you need real talent, especially on the o-line, to match up against talented d-lines.

    I think we all know that here. I just find it frustrating to see this completely ignored from Rodrigue.

    Where are the good o-line players going to come from? I’m not sure the Rams even have ONE good player o-line now. They have no cap and, now, have lost some good picks to find those players.

    McVay and Snead are getting way too much benefit of the doubt from Rodrigue and other Rams fans.

    McVay and Snead have made a number of bad gambles after they lost the benefits of Goff’s rookie deal–the 2019 plan to replace Saffold & Sullivan was lousy, the plan for the 3rd WR this year sucked, and the special teams in 2020 (remember Sloman??) revealed the dangers of replacing talented players with a lottery ticket.

    It will be interesting to see what the Lions do this year. They actually have some interesting potential on offense: two good tackles, a 2nd team-all pro Center, a young & talented TE, and a WR in Golladay, who will provide Goff with a big, talented guy who can go get the ball. Goff has never played with a guy like that.

    If the Rams have an injury-riddled year that leads to a losing record this year or next, the Lions will definitely be laughing all the way to the bank.

    in reply to: Jared Goff & his future with the Rams #127155
    Cal
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    the rams ranked 25th in passing play percentage though. and outside of 2019, the rams have consistently been a balanced offense.

    i do think there is room for improvement. there has to be. he’s only 35 years old.

    all i’m saying is i don’t completely dismiss mcvay’s criticism of goff.

    This is partly why McVay is so frustrating at times. The offense is at its best when there IS a run / pass balance. And yet, McVay just abandons a balanced offense at times.

    A lot of times, this happens in key situations against defenses who create problems for the Rams. (In the original post, I meant to say McVay passed twice as much as he ran AGAINST the Vikings & Mike Zimmer in 2017).

    And I’m not sure McVay will change. I thought Goff would change and continue growing this year and get better and better. But he’s just an above average qb. He will never be a Peyton Manning type qb.

    Sure, I’d like to see the Rams offense led by a HOF-type qb, but those are hard to find.

    Being frustrated that we don’t have Mahomes or Rodgers leading our offense seems foolish to me.

    McVay’s recent comments about Goff make me more concerned about McVay than Goff.

    in reply to: The Meaning of Mittens: or, would you date a centrist #127149
    Cal
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    It is just crumbs compared to what we spend on our war fund. I think the WaPo article estimated that this program would cost 120 billion a year.

    But still. 300 bucks a month for a mom working at Wal-Mart for $12 / hour is a big deal.

    My wife recently got a raise that will give her an extra $500 per month and we regarded this as life changing.

    A few hundred bucks a month is a big deal. That can be the difference between renting a home and owning your own home.

    I don’t completely understand how the program will work, but it sounds like it might be used to target America’s working poor instead of the middle class. And I thought that was impressive.

    As bad as the Dems are, you can bet there will be NO Republicans who would support this type of program.

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    in reply to: Jared Goff & his future with the Rams #127144
    Cal
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    i only have issue with this. mcvay does not seem like the type of person to deflect blame. i mean his history is accepting responsibility. maybe it was just lip service? maybe.

    they got shit to sort out. i hope they sort it out.

    Yes, it is just lip service. McVay talking about his shortcomings (i.e. not running the ball) is about the same as Martz saying “Shoot! We’ll fix that.”

    After 4 years of McVay, I’d say McVay WILL always have the weakness of ignoring, at times, talented guys in the backfield. This goes back to 2017 when McVay had Goff throw the ball twice as much as he had Gurley run the ball.

    And, yes, he will acknowledge ignoring his talented backs. I’m not sure how much he has talked about going away from the run this year, but I thought it was a problem in the losses to San Fran, Miami, NY Jets, and of course Green Bay. But sooner or later, McVay will return to his pass-heavy approach.

    This is who he is! He is stubborn at times with his approach, and it’s becoming a pattern that talented defensive coordinators with some talent can get the best of a McVay offense.

    I love what McVay has brought to the Rams, but what if he is more like Mike Martz than Andy Reid?

    in reply to: The Meaning of Mittens: or, would you date a centrist #127127
    Cal
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    Maybe people were wrong about Biden–he seems like he is proposing some interesting ideas. He seems serious about climate change.

    And the child tax credit sounds impressive. Would this be the most important program to help poor people in the last 25 years?

    From the Washington Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/01/22/biden-childtaxcredit-stimulus/

    Under one draft of the plan being discussed, the IRS would be tasked with depositing checks worth $300 every month per child younger than 6, as well as $250 every month per child age 6 to 17. That would amount to $3,600 over the course of the year for young children, as well as $3,000 a year for older children, the officials said.

    Unlike with the stimulus checks, the Biden administration and Democratic lawmakers are hoping to make these child benefits a permanent government program that would continue in future years, according to three senior Democratic officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal planning. The current proposal calls only for the expanded benefit to be enacted for one year, after which Democrats widely hope political pressure will force Congress to extend them. The benefit would be phased out for affluent Americans, though the precise income level has not been determined.

    in reply to: Our reactions to the GB game #126935
    Cal
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    Disappointing loss–I hate watching the Rams when they can’t stop the run.

    Pleased to see Goff turn in such a good performance. He takes too much criticism from Rams fans.

    Does McVay’s play calling drive anyone else crazy?

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    in reply to: twitter (Rams) … 1/12 & 1/13 #126803
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    I love Floyd (Pink & Leonard) and he is great for this system.

    But he still doesn’t look like a typical pass rusher to me. I think he would be disappointing for most teams. It will be interesting to see what kind of contract he gets this off season.

    Fowler, btw, underwhelmed with THREE sacks in 14 games this year!

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    in reply to: reactions to the wildcard win #126654
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    I love this defense that the Rams have put together! With this D and Akers running well, the Rams will be a tough out in the playoffs.

    Hopefully, the offense will look a little better with Whitworth back. I thought it was also interesting that Evans came in at LG instead of Noteboom.

    I wonder if McVay has ever toyed around or entertained the idea of using Ramsey on offense? That offense could really use a little more speed to threaten defenses.

    in reply to: I don’t understand stuff #126650
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    Biden a socialist? I have conservative friends tell me that. And a few are not dumb. I watch interviews of these anarchists in D.C. and its like ” we won’t let Biden turn this country into “socialism”. Then I come here and its like Biden is no different than a free market capitalist.

    It is no wonder to me that, from a political standpoint, we are so far apart in our views. You guys here must laugh when you hear Trump supporters yell about Biden and his band of socialists.

    I just can’t figure this stuff out anymore.

    A couple things about the Republican nonsense about socialism and Biden pop into my head.

    1. I wonder if that was the GOP plan for attacking the Dems after watching the Democratic debates and the first couple of primaries. Many Dems were / are proposing a massive increase in the size of government–free college, Medicare For All, pay off student loans, etc.

    Yes, that’s still not socialism, but that is a massive increase in the role of government. Maybe the GOP just got stuck in that rut of attacking the Dems after watching the beginning of the Democratic nomination process.

    It would have been interesting to see how Bernie or Warren instead of Biden would have done against Trump.

    2. The socialism nonsense is still kind of effective. It wasn’t a good national strategy against Biden, but it seems like it may have worked in South Florida with the anti-Castro and anti-Chavez immigrants.

    And the election was still pretty close. Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and PA were still pretty close. If not for the black turnout (Thank you Kamala?) would Biden have won this election?

    3. Democrats suck at countering the Republican message about socialism. I don’t watch much mainstream news, but I am pretty sure that the Democrats don’t do this.

    Dems should be constantly telling middle class voters in my age range (40s and 30s)something like this:

    “Republicans will NOT protect the thousands and thousands of dollars that your generation has put into social security. Social Security is socialism to Republicans and Trump and your money will be gone in 20 years if they continue to help lead our country.”

    I don’t think Democrats ever say anything like that because they suck.

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    in reply to: protestors invade the US Capitol building #126646
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    I am very curious to see what happens to the Trump rioters. I seriously doubt most of those fools will see serious prison time. Biden and Merrick Garland (I assume he will take the lead on the prosecutions) will probably talk about the nation coming together or some nonsense. We’ll see.

    This is the best discussion that I have seen so far of serious charges that should be applied to hundreds of people who stormed the Capitol.

    From the Detroit Free Press
    https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/01/06/us-capitol-breach-sedition-legal-expert-says/6571725002/

    On the high end, charges of civil disorder, interfering with law enforcement, or inciting a riot could all be possible, up to seditious conspiracy — a federal charge punishable by up to 20 years in prison, he said.

    That latter charge seemed most appealing to two professors of Western Michigan University’s Cooley Law School.

    It reads:

    “If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.”

    The phrase “delay the execution of the law” is key, and what was seen from some of the Trump supporters Wednesday, said Devin Schindler, a law professor who once clerked for the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

    “For at least some of these protesters, particularly the ones that broke into the Capitol, I think there’s an extraordinarily strong case that they used force to delay, to hinder, the execution of our laws governing the election and how electoral votes are counted,” he said. “It seems fairly clear to me, based on what we’re seeing, that folks are in fact, almost textbook violating this seditious conspiracy statute by using force to interfere with lawful government activity.”

    Though people on Twitter were levying the term “treason,” he and Schneider both agreed the charge didn’t quite fit with what is known, because treason requires the involvement of enemies to the U.S.

    Retired Brig.Gen. Michael McDaniel, associate dean for the Western Michigan University-Cooley Law School, too, pointed to sedition as a key possible charge in the case, after possible lesser charges.

    He also said the defense might be difficult; First Amendment protections aren’t in play once a break-in occurs.

    The idea of “sedition” has changed, he said, pointing to the version President John Adams used against his political opponents. It’s been narrowed by the courts in the present day.

    He also raised concern for a different federal charge of rebellion or insurrection, which could carry a sentence of 10 years in prison, and Trump’s words at the rally earlier in the day.

    “Remember it’s got to be ‘against the authority of the United States,’” he said, using the language of the law. “So a really interesting question to pose to my law students later on this week is whether or not the president’s speech … was inciting them to violence against the authority of the government of the United States.”

    Depending on that answer, given the president’s role, another impeachment would perhaps be more appropriate than a charge, he said.

    There likely won’t be any court action quickly on the events of the day, Michael Traugott, a professor emeritus of communication studies and political science and research professor emeritus at the Center for Political Studies at the University of Michigan, said. There will be jurisdiction issues, even among which agencies will be doing investigations.
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    Are you lefties in favor of serious jail time for nearly all of those fools who stormed the Capitol? Or is that too draconian?

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