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  • #106245
    nittany ram
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    #106248
    zn
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    From a public health perspective, what is the biggest preventable cause of cancer?

    #106262
    wv
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    “….Of course, this requires action. But it’s so much easier to blame others — Big Ag, Big Pharma, Big Food, Big Circus, or whomever — than to make responsible lifestyle choices. Maybe that explains the media coverage.”
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    Well, fwiw, they lose ‘me’ when they put this kind of thing in the article. That causes all kinds of alarm bells to go off in my head. I mean, why add that last sentence? Where does ‘that’ come from?

    Those big-ass corpse are subverting what little democracy there is, polluting the planet, and destroying the biosphere. Thats ‘worse’ than causing cancer.

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    v

    #106266
    Billy_T
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    “….Of course, this requires action. But it’s so much easier to blame others — Big Ag, Big Pharma, Big Food, Big Circus, or whomever — than to make responsible lifestyle choices. Maybe that explains the media coverage.”
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    Well, fwiw, they lose ‘me’ when they put this kind of thing in the article. That causes all kinds of alarm bells to go off in my head. I mean, why add that last sentence? Where does ‘that’ come from?

    Those big-ass corpse are subverting what little democracy there is, polluting the planet, and destroying the biosphere. Thats ‘worse’ than causing cancer.

    w
    v

    Yeah, and who makes, mass markets, sells, lies about tobacco? Who pushed for war after war to open up new markets? Corporations. It’s addictive. They knew it was addictive long ago. And they still pushed it. To kids, too. And when North America and parts of Europe started reducing consumption a bit, they blitzed the “third world” with mass marketing and got billions hooked there.

    “Take personal responsibility for your actions!!” never seems to apply to the owners of these corporations.

    And food? Where does obesity come from? The mass marketing and production of crap, laced with unnecessary sugar and fat and dyes, et al. It’s not in corporate America’s best interest for people to eat less, or eat what’s healthy for us. That would kill profits. That would mean a radical shift away from corporate to local food sources. From factory to very small farms, etc.

    “Take personal responsibility!!” needs to include the pushers of garbage too.

    #106275
    wv
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    “Take personal responsibility!!” needs to include the pushers of garbage too.

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    Right. Trouble-Making-Nittany has riled up wv and Billy Truax. Thats like unleashing Rodan AND Gabara.
    He’ll rue the day he posted about the evils of smoking.

    Smoking is bad, of course.

    but he’ll still rue the day

    w
    v

    #106279
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    Well, fwiw, they lose ‘me’ when they put this kind of thing in the article. That causes all kinds of alarm bells to go off in my head. I mean, why add that last sentence? Where does ‘that’ come from?

    w
    v

    I actually wasn’t going to post the article because of that, but I liked the chart. Although because of that last paragraph this comes off as pro-corporate spin, I think the underlying message that the vast majority of cancers aren’t caused by some superfund site, but by normal human behavior that most of us deal with on a daily basis is important. Of course, that doesn’t absolve corporations of their role in creating the tobacco, obesity, etc problems…

    Happily, the incidence rate for most cancers are on the decline.

    #106281
    Billy_T
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    “Take personal responsibility!!” needs to include the pushers of garbage too.

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    Right. Trouble-Making-Nittany has riled up wv and Billy Truax. Thats like unleashing Rodan AND Gabara.
    He’ll rue the day he posted about the evils of smoking.

    Smoking is bad, of course.

    but he’ll still rue the day

    w
    v

    Well, maybe Rodan and Gabara are a bit much. I’d settle for dire wolves. That’s the kind of angry I’d like to be. Growling and howling and so on.

    But I gotta tell ya, WV. Personally, I’m not in favor of playing the “rue” card. Why, you say? Because I have this bad habit when I hear it. It makes me laugh. It makes me think of flowers and spring time and pretty girls under parasols by the Seine, and I bet it doesn’t scare anyone. “You’ll rue the day” actually sounds like a good thing to me, not bad. It just doesn’t live up the hype.

    Now, if you were to suggest that Nittany will “graggoksnorfle” the day, then I think he really would get antsy a bit and stop posting on behalf of Monsanto. But “rue”? It just sounds too nice a word to me.

    #106282
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    Now, if you were to suggest that Nittany will “graggoksnorfle” the day, then I think he really would get antsy a bit and stop posting on behalf of Monsanto. But “rue”? It just sounds too nice a word to me.

    Well, “Rue” is the name of a morgue where some murders took place in a short story written by Edgar Allen Poe.

    What, exactly, is there about murders, morgues, and Edgar Allen Poe that you consider “nice”?

    I may be a shill for Monsanto, but at least I’m not twisted enough to have warm feelings about a word so closely associated with the macabre.

    #106286
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Now, if you were to suggest that Nittany will “graggoksnorfle” the day, then I think he really would get antsy a bit and stop posting on behalf of Monsanto. But “rue”? It just sounds too nice a word to me.

    Well, “Rue” is the name of a morgue where some murders took place in a short story written by Edgar Allen Poe.

    What, exactly, is there about murders, morgues, and Edgar Allen Poe that you consider “nice”?

    I may be a shill for Monsanto, but at least I’m not twisted enough to have warm feelings about a word so closely associated with the macabre.

    Well, Rue is French for street. And I have a lot of warm feelings about certain streets in France. Certain street walkers, too.

    As for Poe, he’s my budd. I bet you didn’t know that he hangs out at UVA in his old quarters still, and he and I have had some great chats there, especially after I’ve had a few whiskeys. A coupla years ago he admitted to me something I have long suspected. His poems? He knows they’re not that good, and that Baudelaire’s translations are most responsible for his legacy as a poet. He’s very proud and rightfully so about his short stories, mind you. But he knows that Baudelaire is the real genius when it comes to his poems. Those translations into French are really what links Poe to the Symbolist Movement, Arthur Symons, Yeats, Pound and Eliot.

    Ask ZN. He’ll back me up on that, though I’m not sure he’s had the pleasure of direct contact with Poe like I have.

    Anyway, Poe is always a gracious host, and he makes sure the Ravens stay in Baltimore while I’m there. Oh, and another thing: Penn State cheats at football!!

    #106310
    Billy_T
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    Just to be on the safe side here . . . with the absence of any follow ups:

    Nittany, I was kid-ding!!

    ;>)

    Except about the cheating part. The Terps would have crushed Penn State this year if not for that.

    Double ;>)

    #106316
    nittany ram
    Moderator

    Just to be on the safe side here . . . with the absence of any follow ups:

    Nittany, I was kid-ding!!

    ;>)

    Except about the cheating part. The Terps would have crushed Penn State this year if not for that.

    Double ;>)

    Yeah, I know you were kidding. 😉 I just haven’t had the chance to check in on the board much today.

    BTW, I’m only a casual PSU fan now. I mean, I still hope they win, but I don’t have much of an emotional investment in them anymore.

    The Sandusky affair and the stuff surrounding it sorta extinguished my enthusiasm.

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