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  • #53718
    bnw
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    Trump and Clinton will not address each other, only answering questions from the moderators. This will allow Clinton to memorize her answers since the moderators have only donated to one candidate, that being Clinton. Also prevents her from any risk of having to think on her feet. Despite scheduling it opposite MNF it should shatter viewership records.

    It will also be the most time (90 minutes) that she will be witnessed as on her feet. Since it is against the rules to leave the stage her wire in her ear will have to stay put to keep her reaching for her ear at a minimum. Also I wonder what type of disruptions she has planned for the event in order to get around not leaving the stage? Protest in audience? Power outage? Fire alarm? The report of an active shooter nearby? Moderator falling ill? Bomb scare? The lies and deceit of Clinton are too numerous to count.

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    #53726
    Billy_T
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    Trump and Clinton will not address each other, only answering questions from the moderators. This will allow Clinton to memorize her answers since the moderators have only donated to one candidate, that being Clinton. Also prevents her from any risk of having to think on her feet. Despite scheduling it opposite MNF it should shatter viewership records.

    It will also be the most time (90 minutes) that she will be witnessed as on her feet. Since it is against the rules to leave the stage her wire in her ear will have to stay put to keep her reaching for her ear at a minimum. Also I wonder what type of disruptions she has planned for the event in order to get around not leaving the stage? Protest in audience? Power outage? Fire alarm? The report of an active shooter nearby? Moderator falling ill? Bomb scare? The lies and deceit of Clinton are too numerous to count.

    bnw, seriously. You need to stop listening to those fringe nutcases like Alex Jones and Breitbart in general. There is no proof that she wore an ear piece. I showed you the photos. And as for the moderators, Lester Holt is a Republican. And they all work for conservatives. All of our MSM are owned by multinationals with seriously conservative agendas. It’s always been bogus to assume that because a majority of reporters lean Dem, they’re actually setting the news agenda. They do as they’re told by their bosses — right-wingers — or they lose their jobs.

    Come on, you can do better than the above GOP talking points.

    #53746
    bnw
    Blocked

    Debate Moderators Released: They All Lean Left

    BY: BEN SHAPIRO SEPTEMBER 2, 2016

    On Friday morning, the debate moderators emerged for the long-awaited presidential brawls between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. The first presidential debate will be moderated by Lester Holt of NBC News; the vice presidential debate will be moderated by Elaine Quijano of CBS News; Martha Raddatz of ABC News and Anderson Cooper of CNN for the second debate; and finally, Chris Wallace for the third debate.

    This isn’t a great list for Hillary, but it’s a worse list for Trump.

    That’s to be expected, since the media heavily support Hillary. Lester Holt is perceived as more objective than most, but he still leans left in his coverage. During the Democratic National Convention, he described President Obama’s speech thusly: “The roar is deafening here in this arena. President Obama delivering a speech, a powerful arc embracing hope and optimism, a passionate endorsement of Hillary Rodham Clinton and at times an artful takedown of Donald Trump, a call for Americans to participate in democracy.” And here was Holt’s description of Hillary’s big moment in the spotlight at the DNC: “Tonight from Philadelphia, history in the birth place of American democracy.” Holt has also been rather tough in his questioning of Trump during Trump’s attacks on Hillary, and supremely soft on Hillary (question to Hillary months ago: “How will you move the needle on race relations? Is there a moon-shot type strategy?”).

    Then there’s Quijano, whom few have heard of – but when she was working at CNN in 2008, she worked to spin for Barack Obama; she has also reported on global warming back in 2014 thusly: “A 10-foot rise in sea level would submerge tunnels and subways here in Manhattan and parts of Queens and Brooklyn. But, Scott, it would also put the entire city of Miami Beach and much of South Florida underwater.”

    Terrific.

    Martha Raddatz made headlines in 2012 when she didn’t reveal, before moderating the vice presidential debate, that she had actually invited President Obama to her wedding; her husband would then become Obama’s FCC commissioner. In 2012, she allowed Joe Biden to run roughshod over both her and Paul Ryan.

    Anderson Cooper is obviously heavily biased to the left – just view his pathetic interview with Pam Bondi in Florida after the Orlando jihadist attack in a gay nightclub, in which he hammered her for the sin of not supporting same-sex marriage.

    Finally, there’s Chris Wallace. Wallace is the most left-leaning of the major Fox hosts (other than Shep Smith, of course) – but he’s also been friendly to Trump, performing softball interviews with Trump and attacking his rivals.

    Overall, this might be the best lineup Republicans could have negotiated. But it’s just more evidence that nearly the entire media leans left – and that those who lean right will never be tolerated by Hillary Clinton. Which means that Republicans are always at a disadvantage, and they ought to be prepared for that disadvantage.
    http://www.dailywire.com/news/8866/debate-moderators-released-they-all-lean-left-ben-shapiro#

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    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #53748
    Billy_T
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    Debate Moderators Released: They All Lean Left

    BY: BEN SHAPIRO SEPTEMBER 2, 2016

    Why do you always do this? Find Op Eds from far-right sources and post them as if they’re “proof.” Ben Shapiro used to run Breitbart before he started dailywire. He’s a far-right hack and serial liar, and nothing in his opinion piece is factual.

    Sheesh. Please try to find at least half-way non-partisan sources.

    #53750
    bnw
    Blocked

    Debate Moderators Released: They All Lean Left

    BY: BEN SHAPIRO SEPTEMBER 2, 2016

    Why do you always do this? Find Op Eds from far-right sources and post them as if they’re “proof.” Ben Shapiro used to run Breitbart before he started dailywire. He’s a far-right hack and serial liar, and nothing in his opinion piece is factual.

    Sheesh. Please try to find at least half-way non-partisan sources.

    Your sources ARE partisan. Now explain to me why we need TV “journalists” to ask questions of the candidates when the media’s approval rating with the public is at 6%?

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #53751
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Debate Moderators Released: They All Lean Left

    BY: BEN SHAPIRO SEPTEMBER 2, 2016

    Why do you always do this? Find Op Eds from far-right sources and post them as if they’re “proof.” Ben Shapiro used to run Breitbart before he started dailywire. He’s a far-right hack and serial liar, and nothing in his opinion piece is factual.

    Sheesh. Please try to find at least half-way non-partisan sources.

    Your sources ARE partisan. Now explain to me why we need TV “journalists” to ask questions of the candidates when the media’s approval rating with the public is at 6%?

    I will be happy to do that if you’ll admit that your sources don’t tell us anything about the political leanings of the moderators. They just tell us about the political leanings of the Op Ed authors you cite.

    #53752
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Beyond that, I would prefer that print journalists (rather than TV) ask the questions and fact-check both candidates, rigorously.

    Better yet, I’d get the most respected political scientists and historians to ask them. I wish America didn’t have such an aversion to intellectuals, but it does, and this is something the right has fomented in particular. They actively seek the dumbing down of political culture in America, and Trump has taken this to a new low.

    #53754
    bnw
    Blocked

    Debate Moderators Released: They All Lean Left

    BY: BEN SHAPIRO SEPTEMBER 2, 2016

    Why do you always do this? Find Op Eds from far-right sources and post them as if they’re “proof.” Ben Shapiro used to run Breitbart before he started dailywire. He’s a far-right hack and serial liar, and nothing in his opinion piece is factual.

    Sheesh. Please try to find at least half-way non-partisan sources.

    Your sources ARE partisan. Now explain to me why we need TV “journalists” to ask questions of the candidates when the media’s approval rating with the public is at 6%?

    I will be happy to do that if you’ll admit that your sources don’t tell us anything about the political leanings of the moderators. They just tell us about the political leanings of the Op Ed authors you cite.

    What do you want from the moderators, a confession? All that can be done is hold them to their questions and statements in the past. Their bias is obvious.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #53755
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Debate Moderators Released: They All Lean Left

    BY: BEN SHAPIRO SEPTEMBER 2, 2016

    Why do you always do this? Find Op Eds from far-right sources and post them as if they’re “proof.” Ben Shapiro used to run Breitbart before he started dailywire. He’s a far-right hack and serial liar, and nothing in his opinion piece is factual.

    Sheesh. Please try to find at least half-way non-partisan sources.

    Your sources ARE partisan. Now explain to me why we need TV “journalists” to ask questions of the candidates when the media’s approval rating with the public is at 6%?

    I will be happy to do that if you’ll admit that your sources don’t tell us anything about the political leanings of the moderators. They just tell us about the political leanings of the Op Ed authors you cite.

    What do you want from the moderators, a confession? All that can be done is hold them to their questions and statements in the past. Their bias is obvious.

    Again, you post an opinion piece, from a discredited source, and you accept that opinion without questioning it. You assume they’re telling you the truth, even though Shapiro doesn’t provide any video or audio to support his contention, and his analyses of the comments he does paraphrase are bizarre. It’s all too similar to the Breitbart opinion piece on Clinton’s racism, which basically did this:

    Trump was accused of being a racist for saying X
    Clinton said X
    Therefore Clinton is a racist.

    Problem is, the premise is BS. No one accused Trump of racism for X. He was accused of racism for doing and saying other things entirely. So Breitbart — and now Shapiro — start with bogus premises, without video or audio proof, and make subjective judgments on top of those bogus premises.

    Don’t fall for it, bnw.

    #53756
    bnw
    Blocked

    Beyond that, I would prefer that print journalists (rather than TV) ask the questions and fact-check both candidates, rigorously.

    Better yet, I’d get the most respected political scientists and historians to ask them. I wish America didn’t have such an aversion to intellectuals, but it does, and this is something the right has fomented in particular. They actively seek the dumbing down of political culture in America, and Trump has taken this to a new low.

    The lunacy of the academic left knows no bounds.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #53757
    bnw
    Blocked

    Debate Moderators Released: They All Lean Left

    BY: BEN SHAPIRO SEPTEMBER 2, 2016

    Why do you always do this? Find Op Eds from far-right sources and post them as if they’re “proof.” Ben Shapiro used to run Breitbart before he started dailywire. He’s a far-right hack and serial liar, and nothing in his opinion piece is factual.

    Sheesh. Please try to find at least half-way non-partisan sources.

    Your sources ARE partisan. Now explain to me why we need TV “journalists” to ask questions of the candidates when the media’s approval rating with the public is at 6%?

    I will be happy to do that if you’ll admit that your sources don’t tell us anything about the political leanings of the moderators. They just tell us about the political leanings of the Op Ed authors you cite.

    What do you want from the moderators, a confession? All that can be done is hold them to their questions and statements in the past. Their bias is obvious.

    Again, you post an opinion piece, from a discredited source, and you accept that opinion without questioning it. You assume they’re telling you the truth, even though Shapiro doesn’t provide any video or audio to support his contention, and his analyses of the comments he does paraphrase are bizarre. It’s all too similar to the Breitbart opinion piece on Clinton’s racism, which basically did this:

    Trump was accused of being a racist for saying X
    Clinton said X
    Therefore Clinton is a racist.

    Problem is, the premise is BS. No one accused Trump of racism for X. He was accused of racism for doing and saying other things entirely. So Breitbart — and now Shapiro — start with bogus premises, without video or audio proof, and make subjective judgments on top of those bogus premises.

    Don’t fall for it, bnw.

    Don’t obfuscate, BT.

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

    #53758
    Billy_T
    Participant

    In short, no, their bias isn’t obvious at all. At least if you’re suggesting they’re biased against Trump. If they actually were, he would have been out of the race during the primaries. He never would have won the GOP nomination, if the Press had decided to do its job and investigate his background, mob ties, business dealings, adultery, charitable foundations, etc. etc. . . Clinton actually received far more scrutiny than Trump. They spent months on her email server and the Clinton Foundation, by way of contrast.

    And beyond all of that, it’s just whining and playing the refs to complain about bias. This is something the right has done for decades, and it’s worked really, really well. It’s worked so well, they regularly outnumber Dems on TV by more than two to one on the Sunday Talk Shows. If it’s Sunday, it’s Meet the Conservatives!! This Week With the Conservatives!! and Face the Conservatives!!

    In reality, our media tilt to the right, and they have for decades.

    #53760
    Billy_T
    Participant

    Debate Moderators Released: They All Lean Left

    BY: BEN SHAPIRO SEPTEMBER 2, 2016

    Why do you always do this? Find Op Eds from far-right sources and post them as if they’re “proof.” Ben Shapiro used to run Breitbart before he started dailywire. He’s a far-right hack and serial liar, and nothing in his opinion piece is factual.

    Sheesh. Please try to find at least half-way non-partisan sources.

    Your sources ARE partisan. Now explain to me why we need TV “journalists” to ask questions of the candidates when the media’s approval rating with the public is at 6%?

    I will be happy to do that if you’ll admit that your sources don’t tell us anything about the political leanings of the moderators. They just tell us about the political leanings of the Op Ed authors you cite.

    What do you want from the moderators, a confession? All that can be done is hold them to their questions and statements in the past. Their bias is obvious.

    Again, you post an opinion piece, from a discredited source, and you accept that opinion without questioning it. You assume they’re telling you the truth, even though Shapiro doesn’t provide any video or audio to support his contention, and his analyses of the comments he does paraphrase are bizarre. It’s all too similar to the Breitbart opinion piece on Clinton’s racism, which basically did this:

    Trump was accused of being a racist for saying X
    Clinton said X
    Therefore Clinton is a racist.

    Problem is, the premise is BS. No one accused Trump of racism for X. He was accused of racism for doing and saying other things entirely. So Breitbart — and now Shapiro — start with bogus premises, without video or audio proof, and make subjective judgments on top of those bogus premises.

    Don’t fall for it, bnw.

    Don’t obfuscate, BT.

    I’m not. I’m being as clear as can be. You should really stop posting right-wing opinion pieces as if they were “proof.” At least if you want to persuade anyone here.

    #53761
    bnw
    Blocked

    From the left why that smell is desperation!

    The upside to being a Rams fan is heartbreak.

    Sprinkles are for winners.

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