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May 2, 2015 at 1:01 pm #23720wvParticipant
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1737214/andrew-donnalSTRENGTHS: Desired height with workable arm length and hand size. Adequate athlete and set-up quickness. Prefers to use his hands to drive block, keeping his grip inside defenders and shuffling his lower body. Fundamentally sound and well-coached. Uses his length well to initiate the action and seal the edge any way he can. Always looking for someone to block with alert, active eyes. Doesn?t make mental mistakes, staying focused from snap-to-snap. Impressive tenacity through the whistle, displaying the finishing toughness to eliminate his man. Often powers defenders to the ground like a wrestler. Buys into coaching and works hard to hone his craft. Team-first attitude and waited his turn to be the starter.
WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal and lacks ideal body girth. Narrow base and upright off the snap, making leverage an issue. Can be bullied on his heels and lacks the anchor to absorb bull rushers. Forces his momentum out of his stance, making him susceptible to inside moves, struggling to recover in time. Engages well, but needs to redirect his target and do a better job with angles. Needs to load more ammo into his punch to shock defenders, especially at the second level. Hesitant and needs to speed up his decision-making. Impatient on the edges and finds himself hunched over at the waist. Only one season of true starting experience (16 career starts). Some durability concerns, suffering an ACL injury (Oct. 2012) that ended his sophomore season and bothered him throughout his junior year.
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May 2, 2015 at 1:07 pm #23723wvParticipanthttp://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=106900&draftyear=2015&genpos=OT
Name: Andrew Donnal
College: Iowa Number: 78
Height: 6-6 Weight: 313
Position: OT Pos2: OG
Class/Draft Year: rSr/2015
40 Low: 5.20 40 Time: 5.30 40 High: 5.41
Projected Round: 6 Stock: High: 4-5th Low: PFA
Rated number 19 out of 87 OT’s 217 / 2301 TOTALMay 2, 2015 at 1:09 pm #23724ZooeyModeratorThis is where we are:
A man who weighs 313 pounds can be called “leaner-than-ideal.”
May 2, 2015 at 1:29 pm #23725PA RamParticipantNick Wagoner @nwagoner 6m6 minutes ago
OL Andrew Donnal clearly fired up about being drafted. Describes himself as you’d expect: “mauler.” Says he “likes kicking ass.”"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. " Philip K. Dick
May 2, 2015 at 2:06 pm #23726wvParticipantNick Wagoner @nwagoner 6m6 minutes ago
OL Andrew Donnal clearly fired up about being drafted. Describes himself as you’d expect: “mauler.” Says he “likes kicking ass.”Would you say Zooey is a “mauler” ?
3 Olinemen out of four picks.
Has that ever happened in the history
of Rams drafts? I bet not even
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May 2, 2015 at 3:41 pm #23732canadaramParticipantBrugler on Donnal:
14. ANDREW DONNAL | Iowa
2010: Redshirted 2011: (4/0)
6057|313 lbs|5SR Monclova, Ohio (Anthony Wayne HS) 3/3/1992 (age 23) #78
GRADE 5th-6th RoundMEASUREABLES Arm: 33 1/2 | Hand: 10 | Wingspan: 80 5/8
COMBINE 40-YD: 5.31 | 10-YD: 1.92 | 20-YD: 3.14 | BP: 17 | VJ: 32 | BJ: 08’05” | SS: 4.77 | 3C: 7.84 PRO DAY BP: 23 | 3C: 7.48
PRONUNCIATION duh-NELL
2012: (7/3) 2013: (12/0) 2014: (13/13) Total (36/16)
3 RG 13 RT
13 RT, 3 RGBACKGROUND: A four-star offensive tackle recruit out of high school, Andrew Donnal narrowed his college choice to Michigan, Michigan State, Maryland, Virginia and Iowa, committing the Hawkeyes and redshirting in 2010. He saw limited snaps as a redshirt freshman in 2011 and filled in as a starter at right guard for three games in 2012 before suffering a season-ending injury. Donnal was a versatile back-up in 2013 as a junior, but didn’t start any games. He took over the right tackle duties as a senior and started all 13 games in 2014, earning All-Big Ten Honorable Mention honors.
STRENGTHS: Desired height with workable arm length and hand size…adequate athlete and set-up quickness…prefers to use his hands to drive block, keeping his grip inside defenders and shuffling his lower body…fundamentally sound and well-coached…uses his length well to initiate the action and seal the edge any way he can…always looking for someone to block with alert, active eyes…doesn’t make mental mistakes, staying focused from snap-to-snap…impressive tenacity through the whistle, displaying the finishing toughness to eliminate his man – often powers defenders to the ground like a wrestler…buys into coaching and works hard to hone his craft…team-first attitude and waited his turn to be the starter.
WEAKNESSES: Leaner-than-ideal and lacks ideal body girth…narrow base and upright off the snap, making leverage an issue…can be bullied on his heels and lacks the anchor to absorb bull rushers…forces his momentum out of his stance, making him susceptible to inside moves, struggling to recover in time…engages well, but needs to redirect his target and do a better job with angles…needs to load more ammo into his punch to shock defenders, especially at the second level…hesitant and needs to speed up his decision-making…impatient on the edges and finds himself hunched over at the waist…only one season of true starting experience (16 career starts)…some durability concerns, suffering an ACL injury (Oct. 2012) that ended his sophomore season and bothered him throughout his junior year.
SUMMARY: Brandon Scherff and Donnal both arrived at Iowa as part of the 2010 Hawkeyes recruiting class, which was also the last year the school produced two offensive tackle picks in the same NFL Draft (Bryan Bulaga, Kyle Calloway). Scherff and Donnal both suffered serious injuries in 2012, but Scherff rebounded quickly and became an All-American. Donnal wasn’t as fortunate, but finally got his chance to be the starter in 2014 and started every game at right tackle, limiting mistakes and showing consistent improvement. He has good initial quickness, but struggles to keep that same lateral momentum in his kickslide to cut off speed, forcing him to lunge and overextend at the waist. Donnal shows very little semblance of a punch, but takes pride in his technique and has the work ethic and attitude that makes him compatible with NFL coaches – late round developmental option.
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May 2, 2015 at 4:08 pm #23740canadaramParticipantOurlads on Donnal:
Fifth year senior and two year starter from Monclova, OH. Donnal has experience at guard and tackle. He has average length for the outside, but style of play is best suited for the RT spot. At initial glance, he doesn’t have the leg drive or heavy hands that you want out of an offensive tackle, however his consistent technique and effort get the job done. He is a guy that won’t move defenders, but at the very least sticks to them and will keep his body between the defender and ball carriers. He has already added weight to his frame since season’s end while maintaining his ability to move well. Backup calibre prospect with the potential to be a versatile depth chart guy. Technician with a consistent motor and food conditioning. Works hard to keep his hands inside, knees np bent, and feet chopping. Does a lot of the little things well. Carries his weight with ease. Can fire out of his stance and play light on his feet. Good body control and balance. Can recover if he is initially beat. Comfortable in space, can hang with power and speed on the edge. Will work hard to finish his blocks. Lacks the strength and power to move defenders. Has a hard time anchoring his position against inside defenders when run blocking. Will get high at times when moving to his inside gap responsibility. Reactions to the blitz are often late. Tore his MCL and PCL in 2012, missing five games. OSR: 27/41. Sixth/seventh round. (A-33 1/2, H-10, BP-17, 10- 1.86).
May 2, 2015 at 4:08 pm #23741MackeyserModeratorPrototypical Coach Boo OG. Converted OT who may simply be missing a little bit of speed to battle edge rushers, but has that nasty, has technique, is versatile and coachable.
Very hard not to really like this pick and, frankly, all of the OL picks.
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May 2, 2015 at 4:12 pm #23742canadaramParticipantI was listening to Phil Savage talk about Donnal on Sirius radio. He said that when Ferentz called him back in Janaury to say that Schreff wouldn’t be coming to e Senior Bowl they talked about Donnal. Ferentz apparently said that Donnal started to play well later in the season. The rest of the Sirius guys talked about how well coached Iowa linemen are. That kind of stuff.
May 3, 2015 at 11:48 am #23848canadaramParticipantBrandon Scherff and Andrew Donnal were part of the same recruiting class at #Iowa. Donnal waited his turn to start and impressed in 2014
— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) May 2, 2015
May 3, 2015 at 12:00 pm #23850canadaramParticipantOT Andrew Donnal improved his bench reps from the combine today, going from 17 to 23 (225 pounds as many times as you can).
— marcmorehouse (@marcmorehouse) March 23, 2015
May 12, 2015 at 3:31 pm #24468znModeratorAndrew Donnal no longer the ‘other’ Iowa offensive lineman
By Nick Wagoner
EARTH CITY, Mo. — In search of help for their offensive line in the 2015 NFL draft, the St. Louis Rams made no shortage of trips to the University of Iowa.
There in Iowa City, the Rams and the other 31 NFL teams found the top offensive line prospect in this year’s draft in the form of Brandon Scherff. Scherff was the Hawkeyes’ dominant left tackle, pushing defenders around in the run game and keeping his quarterbacks clean in pass protection.
But in Scherff’s final season at Iowa in 2014, he wasn’t the only Hawkeye that began to draw attention. On the right side of the line was Andrew Donnal, a 6-foot-6, 313-pounder cut from a similar cloth as Scherff.
“Obviously when the scouts go in, you’re going to evaluate the draft-eligible players,” Rams general manager Les Snead said. “So he was going to get evaluated one way or the other. But last year he played guard. This year they moved him out to right tackle. Did some left tackle a couple times when Scherff went out, he got banged a couple times, so versatile. So you just knew his versatility and then through the combine process tested relatively well for a tall, big man.”
By the time the draft arrived, the Rams had Scherff pegged as the top lineman available but so, too, did the rest of the league. The Washington Redskins ended up using the fifth overall pick on Scherff well before the Rams drafted at No. 10 overall. Not that his presence would have made much difference given the team’s interest in running back Todd Gurley.
After drafting Gurley in the first round, the Rams devoted much of the rest of the draft, especially the next three rounds, on offensive lineman. When the third day started, they had already added potential starters in tackle Rob Havenstein and guard Jamon Brown but Donnal proved too enticing to pass up after playing both tackle and both guard spots at various points in his career.
Donnal said he didn’t spend much time watching the draft early on other than to see where his teammate would land. It was on Day 3 when Donnal knew his time might come.
“I watched for Brandon the first day,” Donnal said. “I was really looking forward to watching him get drafted. I knew he was going to go high. It was great to see him on TV and get the recognition he deserves. Yesterday, I watched it here and there. I didn’t really make a huge deal of it. Just kind of watch to see what happens and hung out with family and friends, but today we stayed pretty glued to the TV.”
Upon arrival in St. Louis, Donnal isn’t likely to be asked to hop into the starting lineup right away. Considering the other pieces added to the line, he’s more likely to serve in a utility role where he can backup just about anyone. As you’d expect from an offensive lineman from Iowa, it’s a role that suits Donnal just fine.
“I view myself as a blue-collar grinder,” Donnal said. “I’m a guy that’s going to come out and work my [rear] off everyday be the best that I can possibly be. I thoroughly enjoy just playing football, being an offensive lineman and moving the guy from point A to point B against his will. Protecting the quarterback and mauling inside — there’s nothing better.”
Donnal views his time and the constant comparisons to Scherff as a good thing for his career, pointing out that the constant comparisons helped drive him to succeed. Now that both are in the NFL, it’s s clean slate for all parties, who have to prove themselves all over again. The Rams and Redskins are scheduled to meet in Week 2.
“Really it’s not about when you get on a team or how you get on a team,” Donnal said. “It’s what you do when you get there. We’re basically both starting over fresh. It’s a completely different experience for the both of us, and I know we’re both going to work as hard as we possibly can to play the best football that we can for our organizations.”
May 12, 2015 at 7:45 pm #24482sdramParticipantI like that he likes “kicking ass”
Hope he can play.
May 13, 2015 at 4:59 pm #24508znModeratorCurrent Iowa Hawkeye Head Coach Kirk Ferentz joined Kevin Wheeler to talk about Andrew Donnal, what he saw from him in his college career, why he thinks it can translate to the NFL, and why he thinks Iowa DT Louis Trinca-Pasat can make the Rams practice squad.
May 13, 2015 at 6:25 pm #24517znModeratorfrom off the net
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Ferentz thinks OT is a more natural position for Donnal.
Ferentz says he’ll be shocked if DT Louis Trinca-Pasatis is not on the roster or practice squad for the Rams this year.
On Jeff Fisher: he’s an unbelievable football coach…the way players play for him, the effort and enthusiasm they play with… I’ve been a huge Jeff Fisher fan forever…one of the great coaches in the NFL…I wish the Rams all the best.
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