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October 9, 2021 at 12:05 pm #132933wvParticipant
White internet-sports-celeb trying to discuss race:
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October 9, 2021 at 12:10 pm #132934znModeratorJon Gruden used a racist trope to describe executive director of the NFL Players Association DeMaurice Smith in a 2011 email, the Wall Street Journal reports.
https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/10/08/jon-gruden-used-racial-trope-demaurice-smith-email
“Dumboriss Smith has lips the size of Michelin tires,” Gruden wrote in a July 2, 2011, email to then Washington general manager Bruce Allen, according to the report. Gruden then was a commentator for ESPN.
At the time, the NFL was in negotiations with Smith’s NFLPA to try and end a lockout.
Gruden, now the coach of the Raiders, told the Wall Street Journal that he didn’t recall writing the email but that he’s “really sorry,” saying he was frustrated with Smith and the NFLPA at the time. He added that he used the term “rubber lips” to describe anyone he thought was lying.
“I was upset,” Gruden told the WSJ. “I used a horrible way of explaining it. I don’t think he’s dumb. I don’t think he’s a liar. I don’t have a racial bone in my body, and I’ve proven that for 58 years.”
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Smith said in a statement to the Wall Street Journal that he wouldn’t let racism define
October 9, 2021 at 6:05 pm #132938ZooeyModeratorYeah, so…thing is…
100% of people living in this country are familiar with the history of big-lipped caricatures of African Americans used to mock them in 20th century illustrations. There is no way, absolutely no way that Gruden is unaware of what he did. Even if he isn’t a Proud Boy sympathizer, he went where no white guy can go. It was a racist shot. I’m not buying the “rubber lips” line of defense, even if he DOES use that term (which nobody else has ever used, afaik). Nope.
And I don’t think there is any “atoning.” There’s nothing anybody can do about it. Gruden exposed himself. That happens to famous people. He’s gotta have to live with it, and have it affect his relationships with people however it affects them.
October 11, 2021 at 8:39 pm #132986nittany ramModeratorGruden is finished…
For whatever reason, @NYTSports deleted the link to the article, but if you haven’t seen it: https://t.co/6TEK76yfL2
— Ryan Katz (@moshpitmagic) October 12, 2021
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October 11, 2021 at 9:07 pm #132989nittany ramModeratorSource: Jon Gruden just informed his staff that he plans to resign as #Raiders coach.
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) October 12, 2021
October 11, 2021 at 11:01 pm #132996znModeratorNot an apology. 😡 https://t.co/jAudlyzCow
— KJ The Rams Fan (4-1) (@KJTheRamsFan) October 12, 2021
October 11, 2021 at 11:31 pm #132997wvParticipantOctober 12, 2021 at 12:19 am #132998AgamemnonParticipantJon Gruden statement: “I have resigned as Head Coach of the Las Vegas Raiders. I love the Raiders and do not want to be a distraction. Thank you to all the players, coaches, staff, and fans of Raider Nation. I’m sorry, I never meant to hurt anyone.”
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) October 12, 2021
October 12, 2021 at 9:45 am #133005canadaramParticipant“Everyone is racist in their email” is the new “all guys do sexist locker room talk”
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) October 12, 2021
October 12, 2021 at 9:46 am #133006znModeratorJon Gruden’s offensive emails were selectively leaked from a trove of 650,000 emails collected by the NFL as part of its workplace misconduct inquiry of the Washington Football Team.
Where are the rest of the toxic emails, including any that were sent or received by Dan Snyder? pic.twitter.com/qfoGL5gIbn
— Don Van Natta Jr. (@DVNJr) October 12, 2021
October 12, 2021 at 12:20 pm #133012nittany ramModeratorJim McVay is Sean McVay’s uncle…
Gruden also reportedly exchanged emails with Allen and others that included photos of women wearing only bikini bottoms. One photo reportedly included two Washington Football Team cheerleaders. Per the Times, Gruden and Allen also sometimes included Ed Droste, the co-founder of Hooters; Jim McVay, an executive who has run the Outback Bowl; and Nick Reader, the founder of PDQ Restaurants, in the emails.
October 12, 2021 at 12:49 pm #133014ZooeyModeratorOctober 12, 2021 at 1:39 pm #133015wvParticipantGuarantee that the NFL is scurrying around telling EVERYONE to delete
their emails. Its all about ‘optics’ and ‘perception’ in
NFL-Land.Trumpies will now adopt Gruden. He’ll be on the tea-party
banquet circuit in a year or two.w
vOctober 12, 2021 at 3:37 pm #133019wvParticipantDomonique Foxworth’s comments:
October 12, 2021 at 3:44 pm #133020wvParticipantThe white sports-celebs are cringy and hard to watch on these vids.
They are all “shocked” about Gruden.
The black sports-celebs are, like, “uh,huh”w
vOctober 12, 2021 at 4:11 pm #133023wvParticipantGruden and McVay are good friends, right.
Sigh.
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vOctober 12, 2021 at 5:49 pm #133028ZooeyModeratorGruden and McVay are good friends, right.
Sigh.
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vMaybe. They know each other, and share a love of football, and like each other, I guess. I’ve never seen any evidence that they play together outside the office. I have “friends” at work whom I never see socially.
But…maybe they are, and maybe McVay shares similar views. In my experience, there are a lot of a-holes in the human species.
October 12, 2021 at 8:21 pm #133031wvParticipantOctober 12, 2021 at 9:14 pm #133032nittany ramModeratorJumping on Twitter to clarify the below.
Hope everyone is doing good.😎👇🏽 pic.twitter.com/4bqFDUYSR6— Jeff Fisher (@CoachJeffFisher) October 13, 2021
October 13, 2021 at 12:43 am #133034InvaderRamModeratorGruden and McVay are good friends, right.
Sigh.
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vMaybe. They know each other, and share a love of football, and like each other, I guess. I’ve never seen any evidence that they play together outside the office. I have “friends” at work whom I never see socially.
But…maybe they are, and maybe McVay shares similar views. In my experience, there are a lot of a-holes in the human species.
the grudens and mcvays go way back. there’s a history there.
it wouldn’t surprise me. who knows really though.
October 13, 2021 at 12:47 am #133035InvaderRamModeratorthe grudens and mcvays go way back. there’s a history there.
it wouldn’t surprise me. who knows really though.
to clarify when i say the grudens and mcvays. i mean both families go way back – the connection goes beyond just jon and sean. their families are close friends.
October 13, 2021 at 4:21 pm #133048wvParticipantto clarify when i say the grudens and mcvays. i mean both families go way back – the connection goes beyond just jon and sean. their families are close friends.
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McVay and Gruden
“people persons”:https://www.therams.com/news/mcvay-vs-gruden-football-and-family-tiesOctober 13, 2021 at 4:31 pm #133049wvParticipantOctober 13, 2021 at 4:59 pm #133050wvParticipantJerry Jones statement is classic Jerry Jones:
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October 13, 2021 at 5:09 pm #133052wvParticipantMarcus Spears is good on this (mentions Bruce Arians) :
October 13, 2021 at 6:16 pm #133053wvParticipantSitting here imagining all of the College Coaches, Scouts, Assistant Coaches,
Media People, worrying about old/new emails they have sent.w
vOctober 13, 2021 at 6:40 pm #133054wvParticipantCowherd compares Gruden to Bobby Knight.
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October 14, 2021 at 12:58 am #133060ZooeyModeratorSitting here imagining all of the College Coaches, Scouts, Assistant Coaches,
Media People, worrying about old/new emails they have sent.w
vWell, there’s 650,000 emails, I heard. So Gruden isn’t the only human who’s going to come off badly.
My question is “Why Gruden?”
Next question is…what did they say about Spygate?
October 14, 2021 at 3:46 pm #133065wvParticipantOctober 14, 2021 at 4:09 pm #133066nittany ramModeratorGruden and McVay are good friends, right.
Sigh.
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vJim McVay (Sean’s uncle) was one of the people Gruden was emailing.
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