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  • November 19, 2014 at 8:09 pm #12174
    wv
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    http://redpowermedia.wordpress.com/2014/11/17/the-final-indian-war-in-america-about-to-begin/

    November 20, 2014 at 6:18 pm #12256
    sdram
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    If the rosebud sioux tribe can stop it, the keystone excel cops will simply re-engineer around it like they did with the Nebraska Sandhills. I read somewhere last week that the price of crude was about the only thing that would stop it.

    There’s already one in the ground – Keystone 1. It’s been there for a few years. It wasn’t a political football so nobody really cared about it except a few crazy old eastern SD’ers who didn’t want their aquifer defiled. They lost. It doesn’t go through the reservation and it was built with little fanfare in less than 18 months.

    It was fun reading their take on the SD congressional delegation – I could go on for chapters about how worthless they are but why bother. We just elected another one of the same so there are 0 elected democrats in SD a the state or federal level. There’s a few state representatives – 15 out of 80 or so. It’s truly become a 1.1 party system.

    Better go visit my new grandaughter now. She’s a Ram fan and she’s not even born yet.

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    November 26, 2014 at 2:54 pm #12567
    snowman
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    I have become cynical about a number of things and Native American rights is one of them. I am also on the fence about oil pipelines.

    I have trouble caring about sacred land treaties when tribes abuse fishing rights by netting more walleyes than they need and keeping ones outside the slot limits. The fish population becomes depleted in certain lakes and the people who depend on the fishing and tourism industry suffer. And then there is the casino business that is somehow compatible with sacred lands.

    The Bakken oil fields in North Dakota produce over a million barrels of oil per day. That’s about 11% of the total produced in the United States. They send out nine oil trains per day, most of them heading east through the Twin Cities to Illinois and farther east. This much freight traffic ruins the ability of Amtrak’s Empire Builder to stay even remotely on time and it drives up the cost of rail cars for agriculture and other businesses who depend on freight rail to receive and deliver products. An oil pipeline can move over a million barrels a day without impacting other sectors of the economy and without creating safety issues on the railroads. Enbridge is proposing to build the Sandpiper pipeline from ND to Superior, WI to move Bakken light crude to refineries in the east. I think I am fine with that. I am not down with Keystone XL if the oil is shipped to Texas, refined and sold to the Chinese.

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