If you could pick one QB ?

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  • November 1, 2019 at 3:47 pm #107635
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    IF you were starting a new NFL franchise, and you could pick any QB in history, and have them in their prime, who would you pick?

    Just curious. Marino, Elway, Brady, Young, Unitas, Starr, Otto, Waterfield, Warner, Aaron Rogers, Montana, Staubach, Fran, Aikman, Manning, Namath, Bert Jones, Greg Cook, Mahomes, Andrew Luck, Len Dawson, Stabler, Bradshaw, Russell Wilson, Favre…

    I think I’d have to go with Steve Young. (but i actually considered Mahomes)

    I gotta have a guy who can run. Thats just how my taste goes.

    I probably under-appreciate Brady. He’s often done it without great weapons. But I just wouldnt choose him over Young or Elway.

    Mahomes has been exciting to watch. I suspect he may end up at the top of the heap. Hard for me to imagine he wasnt the overall number one pick. He was the tenth pick, and backed up Alex Smith for a year.
    At Texas Tech, he once threw for 734 yards, against Oklahoma. 819 total yards for him in that game. Think about that.

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    November 1, 2019 at 4:21 pm #107636
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    You forgot Gabriel. If you asked me that question when I was a kid, back in the 1960s, it’s definitely Roman Gabriel. Today, I’d have to choose between Elway, Manning (Peyton), Rogers, Montana and Brady. I want another year to see what Mahomes can do. But he’s almost there.

    If I knew I had a really strong team surrounding the QB, I might go off-road a bit and choose Archie Manning. I think he could have been an all-time great, but was saddled with horrible teams, year after year. Great scrambler, great arm, smart.

    Greg Cook is kinda in that category too. Though it was the injuries, mostly, that did him in. He had major potential. HOF level. Terrible injuries and team, if memory serves.

    And speaking of smart. I think Starr was the smartest field general QB of them all. Montana, Brady and Peyton are close. But Starr wins that prize, IMO.

    Most physically gifted? Mahomes and Elway. Wilson’s up there too.

    I like your choice of Young as well. But I think Montana, if you’re going with a Niner, was better.

    November 1, 2019 at 5:52 pm #107643
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    Billy_T wrote:

    You forgot Gabriel. If you asked me that question when I was a kid, back in the 1960s, it’s definitely Roman Gabriel. Today, I’d have to choose between Elway, Manning (Peyton), Rogers, Montana and Brady. I want another year to see what Mahomes can do. But he’s almost there.

    If I knew I had a really strong team surrounding the QB, I might go off-road a bit and choose Archie Manning. I think he could have been an all-time great, but was saddled with horrible teams, year after year. Great scrambler, great arm, smart.

    Greg Cook is kinda in that category too. Though it was the injuries, mostly, that did him in. He had major potential. HOF level. Terrible injuries and team, if memory serves.

    And speaking of smart. I think Starr was the smartest field general QB of them all. Montana, Brady and Peyton are close. But Starr wins that prize, IMO.

    Most physically gifted? Mahomes and Elway. Wilson’s up there too.

    I like your choice of Young as well. But I think Montana, if you’re going with a Niner, was better.

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    I thought about Gabriel, but I still think Warren Beatty was better in the clutch.

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    November 1, 2019 at 6:59 pm #107649
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    he has a ways to go, but i would say mahomes.

    wilson is second.

    November 1, 2019 at 10:03 pm #107650
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    Billy, I think you stole my thunder: Archie Manning. Awesome talent, nothing around him…

    I’d also hitch my wagon to Dan Fouts.

    Warren Beatty would be third, then Mick Jagger and Judge Judy.

    November 1, 2019 at 10:41 pm #107651
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    I’d go with either Warren Beatty or Alan Alda.

    Gg

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    November 2, 2019 at 10:43 am #107657
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    TSRF wrote:

    Billy, I think you stole my thunder: Archie Manning. Awesome talent, nothing around him…

    I’d also hitch my wagon to Dan Fouts.

    Warren Beatty would be third, then Mick Jagger and Judge Judy.

    Yep. Papa Manning was an amazing talent, on a terrible, new-franchise team. Imagine him with the current Saints. Or last year’s version . . .

    I’ve never actually watched the Judge Judy show. Can she throw an out route?

    November 2, 2019 at 10:54 am #107658
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    If I can riff off your question, WV . . . How about the most productive QB, with the least amount of actual physical talent, himself? As in, the guy who made things happened, but really had no business even playing football?

    I started out as a Rams fan from the beginning, but grew up in the DC area, so I watched a lot of Skins football. They had two pretty successful quarterbacks (back in the day) who struck me, and still strike me, as verging on non-athletes. But they were fun to watch and oh so colorful:

    Sonny Jurgenson and Billy Kilmer. The latter was known to drink a wee bit before and after games . . . and rumors were that he did so during them. Neither guy looked athletic, but they still made plays — Jurgenson being the better of the two (1960s all-decade team; several Pro Bowls, etc). Jurgenson went on to become a really good radio guy for the Skins.

    On the other side of the ledger, I’d say Jeff George was the QB with the most arm talent and the least amount of actual overall production. He should have been a HOF guy. But, fair or not, the word was he was a “head case.”

    November 3, 2019 at 6:42 pm #107721
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    Steve McNair. He got to a Super Bowl with Jeff Fisher as his Head Coach. No other QB would be able to do that.

    November 3, 2019 at 6:44 pm #107722
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    I’m going with Dan Fouts

    November 3, 2019 at 6:58 pm #107723
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    Stabler. He’s the qb of the most plays with a name in NFL history, for a reason.

    Ghost to the Post…a game I watched live when it happened (and one of the greatest games ever).

    Sea of Hands.

    I just like clutch-ness.

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