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  • in reply to: 2026 coaching & GM carousel, thread 2 #161860
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    Vikings fired their GM. Kwesi Adofo-Mensah.

    I would fire anyone who watched JJ McCarthy and decided he was a franchise QB.

    Adofo-Mensa was a Princeton-Stanford-Wall-Street analytics guy, btw.

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    That’s funny. I don’t remember you calling for Steve Ortmayer’s head when he drafted Tony Banks.

    in reply to: Rams coaching changes, including Ventrone #161831
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    before departing to become the Assistant Head Coach/Special Teams Coordinator for the Cleveland Browns

    where careers go to die.

    in reply to: Tweets 1/28 #161821
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    I have a question.

    Why didn’t Emmanuel Forbes play the entire first half?

    in reply to: Tweets 1/28 #161819
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    It’s the secondary, pure and simple.

    I think that’s the most important thing overall this season, but I don’t think it’s pure and simple.

    The most important play that cost the Rams a Super Bowl this year was a muffed punt. Catch that ball and the Rams are probably playing the Patriots.

    But that’s an easy fix. Replace the returner. I think the rest of special teams is fixed.

    The reason a muffed punt cost them that one game is because they was a very tight game. They were in a tight game because Seattle could throw for 346 yards and 3 TDs, w/ no turnovers. That was with Darnold being pressured on 35% of his throws.

    Fixing the secondary is easy, too. Draft Quinyon Mitchell or something. Boom!

    in reply to: Tweets 1/28 #161817
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    It’s the secondary, pure and simple.

    I think that’s the most important thing overall this season, but I don’t think it’s pure and simple.

    The most important play that cost the Rams a Super Bowl this year was a muffed punt. Catch that ball and the Rams are probably playing the Patriots.

    in reply to: early mock drafts & draft talk, 2026 #161816
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    As it stands right now, my guess is that one pick is a DB and the other is a WR

    This is what I think, too.

    in reply to: Tweets 1/28 #161812
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    should mcvay fire shula? i thought at first keep him, but i’m wondering if mcvay needs to change something drastic..

    I guess it depends on what McVay thinks is the reason the defense went from very good to averaging giving up about 30 pts a game. Twice to 5’10” Bryce F’ing Young.

    Maybe the personnel is just bad. But maybe teams figured Shula out. I dunno.

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    But maybe Shula KNOWS how they figured him out, and has a plan to attack that.

    In the mean time, I can’t help but feel like the Rams had a golden opportunity this year to win it all, and they didn’t. And those windows only come along intermittently.

    Basically, it’s better to win now than to hope for the future, so fuck everybody. That’s what I’m saying. I want satisfaction. I demand it.

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    Also — does Mike Shannahan get credit for all of McVay’s coaching branches? If he does then if we add up Kyle’s branch and McVay’s branch, I would think Mike Shannahan is the most influential coach in modern history. Moreso than Andy Reid and Belichex. Maybe. I dunno.

    The blue board is underrated in its influence on modern coaching.

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    Schwartz was assistant coach of the year in 2023, and was DC during the Eagles super bowl during the Nick Foles era. He built a purty good D in Cleveland.

    I dunno. Cleveland may just get Worse.

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    When their Pro Bowl QB, Shadeur Sanders, gets them to the Super Bowl, you will be glad that they’re even worse.

    in reply to: belated thread on ICE #161794
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    in reply to: belated thread on ICE #161791
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    This right here is a helluva article. The kind of article that would elicit LOL from its audience, if its audience wasn’t American.

    The complex far-left network that helped put Alex Pretti in harm’s way — including encrypted chats, street alerts
    By Asra Q. Nomani, Fox News
    Published Jan. 26, 2026, 10:38 a.m. ET

    The skirmish that led to Saturday’s fatal shooting of an agitator by Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis and the response that followed were driven by a complex network of far-left organizations with a wide range of causes, a Fox News Digital investigation found.

    A coordinated web of encrypted chats, street alerts and tracking of ICE “Abductors” in a sophisticated database reviewed by Fox News Digital shows that agitators were already mobilized at the scene where 37-year-old Alex Pretti was killed minutes before any shots were fired.

    ICE and Border Patrol agents were there to arrest an illegal immigrant criminal, and Pretti and others were there, outside a donut shop, to meet them as part of a strategic pattern of organized interference with law enforcement operations.

    Over the following hours, a national network of socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist cells in the United States leveraged the tragic fatality into a nationwide protest operation. While grief and outrage over Pretti’s death is genuine, the network’s real-time rapid response, using short sensational video clips and emojis as weapons of propaganda, offers a window into the disciplined logistics, messaging and coordination of far-left warriors fomenting insurgency-like confrontation with authorities.

    “This level of engineered chaos is unique to Minneapolis. It is the direct consequence of far left agitators, working with local authorities,” Vice President JD Vance observed in a Sunday post on X.

    The encrypted Signal messages obtained by Fox News Digital in real time show that anti-ICE “rapid responders” were actively tracking, broadcasting and summoning “backup” around federal agents outside Glam Doll Donuts on Nicollet Avenue, where the shooting happened. Local “rapid responders” made at least 26 entries into a database called “MN ICE Plates” in the critical hours before and after the killing, documenting the license plate numbers and details of alleged ICE vehicles they claimed to see around Nicollet Avenue.

    The entry at row 344 read, “At the nicollet [sic] murder,” chronicling a black Jeep Wagoneer at the location with agents allegedly “involved in shooting.” Row 338 had a “Glam Doll Donuts” entry, tracking a black Ford Taurus.

    At 9:50 a.m. ET, just before the killing, a user identified as “Willow” shared a 22-second video on an encrypted Signal chat for anti-ICE “rapid responders.”

    “26and 3rd,” wrote “Willow,” quickly following up with, “Outside Glam Doll.”

    The video showed two agents, one wearing a vest marked “POLICE,” studying the front door of Glam Doll before walking away, past a sign in the window that read, “ICE OUT OF MINNESOTA.”

    As the camera rolled, the person filming yelled, “No!”

    The camera followed the agents as they returned to a maroon Dodge Durango, passing another sign in the window that read, “ALL WELCOME HERE.”

    In the video, someone shouted, “Get out of here!”

    Just three minutes later, at 9:53 a.m. ET, a second Signal user, “Salacious B. Crumb,” escalated the alert, summoning additional responders and citing the same vehicle and agents.

    “Backup needed at the Black Forest Inn parking lot on Nicollet Ave just south of 26th Street,” the message read.

    “Multiple vehicles with many agents appear to be staging there,” the alert continued. “One confirmed ICE vehicle seen was a maroon Dodge Durango [plate number], but it has driven away northbound on Nicollet.” Fox News Digital has redacted the Florida license plate number included in the original message.

    ICE Assistant Director Marcos Charles said Sunday that the violence on the streets was “not a coincidence,” considering the “chaos and mayhem” that agitators are fomenting in Minneapolis. At the same press conference, Customs and Border Patrol (CBP) Commander-at-Large Greg Bovino confirmed that Pretti was “on the scene several minutes” before the fatal shooting.

    Video of the scene shows that as Pretti stepped into the middle of Nicollet Avenue to direct traffic, fellow agitators could be heard blowing whistles to alert locals that ICE officers were around. Soon after, Pretti ended up in a street confrontation with CBP agents, across the street from Glam Doll Donuts outside a worn storefront marked “NEW AMERICAN DEVELOPMENT CENTER,” a nonprofit focused on immigration entry programs for Somalis.

    Within minutes, at about 10:05 a.m. ET, at least one CBP agent shot Pretti, killing him.

    At 10:18 a.m. ET, the Signal network erupted.

    Using a red phone emoji to signal an all-points alert, a message blasted out: “☎️ easy. URGENT: observers urgently requested at glam doll donuts @ 26th & nicollet [sic],” the alert continued. “an observer has been shot by ice, unknown condition, emts [emergency medical technicians] present, please be safe. EDIT: medics requested to join perimeter in case agents start gassing. be aware there are many agents and mpd [Minneapolis Police Department] officers present.”

    Within minutes, far-left activists descended on Nicollet Avenue. Soon after, a video showed corrugated boxes of supplies apparently lined up on a Minneapolis sidewalk for protesters, including boxes marked “DESINER MASKS” [sic] and “FREE WINTER HATS,” next to piles of bottled water.

    Within hours, socialist leaders turbocharged their “rapid responders” in Minneapolis and mobilized street protesters from New York City to Los Angeles.

    Media outlets, including CNN and MSNOW, described “angry protesters” but failed to identify the ideological networks behind the mobilization, even as protesters flashed their signs with their logos and names, touting socialism, communism and Marxism, on camera.

    The Minneapolis activation marked the beginning of an almost instantaneous weekend surge by far-left organizations, including hardened socialist and communist groups operating in an ecosystem that national security experts describe as an insurgent-style operation designed to exploit tragedy to wage a domestic political war.

    The strategy mirrors past mobilizations, including the aftermath of George Floyd’s killing in May 2020, and exploits well-intentioned public sympathy by rapidly framing Pretti — an intensive care unit nurse at a Veterans Administration hospital — as a symbol of resistance, much like Renee Good, the first victim of an ICE shooting in Minneapolis.

    Just as they responded in real-time to mobilize “comrades” to march on the streets within 12 hours of the U.S. arrest of Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro in early January, socialist, communist and Marxist-Leninist groups now frame their activation as an action within the “belly of the beast” against the “hyperimperialism” of the United States.

    Based on a digital analysis of scores of rapid-response messages following the killing on Saturday, a hub of communist and socialist nonprofit organizations emerged as key organizers of the protests. Many of them are funded by American-born billionaire Neville Roy Singham, a self-declared Marxist-Leninist living in Shanghai. Some are also offshoots of the People’s Forum Inc., a nonprofit hub Singham has funded in New York City since 2017 as an “incubator” for socialist and communist groups. The People’s Forum declined requests for comment.

    At 10:48 a.m. ET, BreakThrough News, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and propaganda arm of the People’s Forum, broke the news widely of the killing, sharing a video recorded from inside the Glam Doll Donut shot of the tussle outside, punctuated by gunshots and frantic narration, “Holy s–t. What the f—!…Did they f—ing kill that guy? F—ing kidding me, dude.”

    BreakThrough News put a dramatic black-and-white caption over the video: “BREAKING: Another CBP Shooting in Minneapolis.” By Sunday afternoon, the video had 4.1 million views, alongside the outlet’s calls to support the People’s Republic of China, Venezuela’s Maduro and the communist revolution in Cuba.

    Before the video cuts off, someone can be heard saying, “Yo, we need people on site!”

    At 11:40 a.m., BreakThrough News broadcast a 39-second video purporting to show state police charging across a street with batons, some falling as clouds of breath rose in the cold air.

    Soon after, at 12:24 p.m., the Party for Socialism and Liberation – a political wing of the movement, working with shared leadership at the People’s Forum – published a quickly-made graphic, “CBP MURDERS ANOTHER IN MINNEAPOLIS,” and the message, “EXPAND THE GENERAL STRIKE!”

    At the protest, Linda Sarsour, a Palestinian political operative who has led virulently anti-Israel protests with socialist organizations after the Oct. 7, 2023, attack against Israel by Hamas terrorists, rallied the crowd at the 4 p.m. protest, yelling, “We will bring this country to a halt!” The People’s Forum shared the 22-second video clip with the caption: “🚨HAPPENING NOW IN NYC.”

    Other groups mobilized simultaneously, including Freedom Road Socialist Organization, a self-described Marxist-Leninist group that has waved its red flag with its acronym, “FRSO,” in the middle of the protests since Good’s killing.

    Also active: the Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee, which has led many of the rapid-response efforts and Black Lives Matter chapters, which led the recent stampede through a local Christian church.

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    By early evening, the narrative had coalesced into a chorus of voices within the far-left propaganda apparatus, adopting charged historical language to brand federal officials as Nazi-like figures. At 4:12 p.m. ET, Calla Walsh, a controversial communist activist filmed this past summer in Iran shouting, “Death to America! Death to Israel!” shared a 32-second video showing barricades built with Republic Services dumpsters.

    She wrote, “People of Minneapolis build barricades, trapping ICE Gestapo at the scene of their latest murder in broad daylight. Not far from where they killed Renee Good a couple weeks ago, not far from where George Floyd was killed in 2020.”

    By evening, CNN was reporting from the 4 p.m. protest in New York City but did not identify the ideological affiliations of the organizers, even as activists openly carried signs from the Party for Socialism and Liberation, with the group’s full name printed across the bottom.

    Another CNN segment from Minneapolis interviewed Chris Gray, describing him only as Pretti’s “next-door neighbor.” Gray spoke about Pretti while delivering a well-scripted appeal for a general strike to dismantle the “Trump regime” and promote “non-violent resistance.” The segment did not disclose that Gray is a member of Socialist Alternative, the U.S. affiliate of the International Socialist Alternative, a “global fighting organization of workers, young people, and all those oppressed by capitalism and imperialism,” seeking to create a “socialist world.”

    Soon after, however, Socialist Alternative shared the interview proudly on Instagram, noting, “Chris Gray, Socialist Alternative member and next-door neighbor of Alex Pretti, speaks out.”

    By evening’s end, at 9:44 p.m. ET, Gloria La Riva, a co-founder of the Party for Socialism and Liberation who has described herself as “a communist,” posted a message on X, using the inflammatory language now normalized: “Alex Pretti was murdered in cold blood, everyone knows that. 10 shots in his back. All of Trump’s, Noem’s, Bovino’s lies cannot cover it up. The people’s struggle will only grow!”

    The maroon Dodge Durango in the early Signal alerts from Saturday morning is Entry No. 2069 in the publicly shared database, “MN ICE PLATES.” It included a gallery of photos of alleged ICE vehicles.

    At last count on Sunday, the database had 4,626 records of license plate numbers organized as “Highly Suspected ICE,” “Confirmed ICE,” “Suspected ICE,” “Cleared – Not ICE” and “Unknown.”

    The total number of “Confirmed ICE” entries is 2,933 records. The total number of records labeled “Abductors” is 455.

    A fine-print disclaimer states that the data is “for informational purposes only” and that its organizers “do not condone its use to forcibly assault, resist, oppose, impede or interfere with the official duties of any officer or employee of the United States, or of any agency in any branch of the United States Government, while engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties.”

    One guide, “Best Practices Guide for Neighborhood or Area Patrol / Monitors: 612,” includes a key to emojis and the jobs they represent for rapid responders:

    The maroon Dodge Durango that was allegedly outside Glam Doll Donuts on Nicollet Avenue is listed with three prior sightings: Jan. 11 at 3 p.m. at the Whipple federal detention facility, Jan. 13 at 1:15 p.m. and a final sighting at Powderhorn Park parking lot on 35th Street and 14th Avenue.

    It’s listed with the tags, “Seen in a convoy, Tinted/blacked-out windows, ICE agent(s) seen in vehicle,” and a final verdict: “Confirmed ICE.”

    As socialist organizations continued to dispatch their foot soldiers to Nicollet Avenue on Sunday evening, the Signal groups were as active as ever on Sunday, an alert going out at 4:37 p.m. ET, with rapid responders now chasing a black Dodge Durango around town.

    “2 confirmed ICE vehicles,” the alert read, “…at least 2 agents in each vehicle.”

    in reply to: 2026 coaching & GM carousel, thread 2 #161765
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    Sosa Kremenjas@QBsMVP
    Seems like Chris Shula won’t get an HC job, while Nate Scheelhaase (CLE) and Mike LaFleur (ARI) will.

    Gonna need to re-tool again.

    Cleveland and Arizona are two jobs I would think hard about before taking.

    I understand professional ambition, and I get the big dollars, but those are two really bad situations to try to build on, and if you fail… which – sorry – you very well might without course correction that may be out of the HC’s control – you could end up taking the blame, and find yourself unemployed.

    Unless Cleveland and/or Arizona offered guaranteed money that set me up for life, I would just wait until next year.

    in reply to: our reactions to the Seattle loss #161728
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    One gigantic turnover by the Rams. Zero turnovers by the Seahawks. The Unsportsmanlike penalty came close to balancing that, though. Xavier Smith probably Jaquiski Tartted himself out of the league.

    It was close. It was always going to be close. If it was a Best of Seven series, it would go 7 games.

    I’m bummed because this looked like the best chance the Rams have had since their last SB, and it was a pretty good chance, as far as chances go. I think losing home field advantage on that fluke loss in Seattle is the difference in the season outcome.

    Next year looks like there will be a lot of really good teams, and to be in it, the Rams are going to need a second straight season of avoiding injuries. And a shutdown CB, and another WR.

    in reply to: belated thread on ICE #161711
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    I’m sorry to hear that, ER.

    Hang in there.

    in reply to: Seattle for the Marbles #161703
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    in Seattle today. Temperatures are expected to hit 45 degrees.

    We know the Rams can play in extreme cold, and in the warmest weather, even during massive fires.

    But…can they play in moderate, mild conditions?

    Who knows. I just assume that the team that is more used to those conditions have an advantage.

    We will see.

    in reply to: Seattle for the Marbles #161696
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    Gonna be a warm one in Seattle today. Temperatures are expected to hit 45 degrees.

    in reply to: coaching & GM changes around NFL (update: Tomlin) #161695
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    I would not love either the Browns or the Cards. The Raiders and Bills are in better positions. The Bills are good, and the Raiders are going to get Mendoza to go along with some pretty good pieces.

    The Browns and Cards have bad QB situations, and no relieve in sight. And both of those organizations are dysfunctional, and you can’t get a new owner in the draft or FA. I think I’d wait, unless I was jobless right now.

    in reply to: McVay & the making of the 2025 Rams season #161694
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    37 years old. I wonder, just how many parts of Stafford hurt at this point in his career and this late in the season. Back, shoulder, neck, knees, elbows…

    Could have put a bye week to good use.

    Losing that game to Seattle was costly.

    in reply to: belated thread on ICE #161689
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    My wife told me all about this today, gave me a blow-by-blow account of the event in her tone of indignation, and when I uttered not a peep after her 5-minute vent, she yelled at me and stormed out of the room, proclaiming my uselessness as a husband.

    I got nothing.

    Anything I can say sounds trite, or a declamation of what I’ve already said a thousand times.

    This is what’s happening. There is a straight line from Reagan’s election to this moment. The roots go back further, if you really want to pursue it historically, but Reagan’s election gave direction and momentum to this.

    The vehement right wingers with their FREEDOM cries and bumper stickers, their allegiance to guns so they can face tyranny, their equivalency of the Constitution with the Holy Bible, are all cheering on the point blank execution of American citizens.

    And the Powers That Be knew this would work. They knew they could do this, bit by bit. Incrementally. And they know that the next step is even bigger. Multiple people killed. The Boston Massacre. It won’t matter. They CAN do it, and they WILL do it. They have even said so out loud, on record, knowing that confessing to their crimes won’t matter.

    in reply to: Seattle for the Marbles #161686
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    I don’t know where to put this. I guess, here, because this is the road to the Super Bowl.

    I compared this year’s roster to the Super Bowl roster. Here are the only players on this team who have a SB LVI ring:

      Offense

    Matthew Stafford
    Rob Havenstein
    Coleman Shelton
    Alaric Jackson
    Tyler Higbee
    Tutu Atwell

      Defense

    Troy Reeder
    Darious Williams

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    How the Rams pivoted — again — to create another Super Bowl contender
    Jourdan Rodrigue
    Jan. 24, 2026Updated 5:58 am PST

    Depending on how the afternoon went, the Los Angeles Rams were either going to make a Super Bowl run, or they weren’t.

    I was about 4 or 5 paragraphs into this article, and I thought, “This isn’t Nate Atkins.”

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    How the Rams pivoted — again — to create another Super Bowl contender
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    Jan. 24, 2026Updated 5:58 am PST

    Depending on how the afternoon went, the Los Angeles Rams were either going to make a Super Bowl run, or they weren’t.

    It was another hot, dry day in Woodland Hills, Calif., three weeks before the team’s 2025 season opener. Quarterback Matthew Stafford was going to try to throw in a practice for the first time since the spring.

    Stafford, 37, had been sidelined for weeks with an aggravated disc, and neither he nor the team was sure if he’d be ready to start the season. He had tried everything: an epidural, hours of medical treatment and even sessions in a red-light therapy chair housed in a trailer the Rams parked at their facility. Time was running out. He was still in pain, but he had to see if he could throw. That late-August day, as Stafford and teammates took the field, general manager Les Snead quietly manned his typical spot on the sideline to watch.

    Earlier in training camp, Snead had organized the scouting department’s annual summit. The week of programming for the scouts and senior staff features a review of the previous draft, cleanup of any process errors from that year of evaluation and a look ahead to the intensive coming months of college and pro scouting. There is always a guest speaker; this time it was Andrew Luck.

    The former Indianapolis Colt, who in 2019 retired suddenly at 29, told the scouts what he believed it really takes to be an NFL quarterback.

    You’ve got to be a little f———ed up. You have got to choose toughness. Snead wrote the words on one of the large whiteboards in his office.

    As Stafford warmed up and then began to throw live, Luck’s comments flashed through Snead’s mind. “That practice, it was a laser beam show,” Snead told The Athletic, chuckling as he remembered the awe he felt watching Stafford. It was as if he was in a movie theater, and the villain had just arrived. “(Like) Freddy Krueger. … The ball was humming; I mean, he looked like he was 22.”

    Snead brought Stafford into his office, and pointed to the board. “There’s no doubt that today you’re a little f———ed up,” he told the quarterback, “and you chose toughness.”

    Stafford was back. And the three seasons the Rams had spent meticulously overhauling their roster and team-building philosophy since he last led them to a championship would not be in vain.

    Now, the Rams are one win away from the Super Bowl. Stafford is the MVP favorite. And an organization that won Super Bowl LVI by trading draft picks for Stafford and other star players has gotten back to title contention using a completely different strategy.

    From 2019 to 2021, a Rams leadership group that includes head coach Sean McVay, Snead, chief operating officer Tony Pastoors and president Kevin Demoff leaned fully into a picks-for-players team-building approach. McVay, hired at just 30 years old in 2017, had instantly transformed the mediocre (though defensively sound) Rams into an offensive powerhouse with quarterback Jared Goff and running back Todd Gurley. By the beginning of the 2019 season, McVay had already been to a Super Bowl and lost it.

    The group believed it could leverage the earlier than expected success into a daring team-building strategy. If winning as much as they were meant drafting later in the first round — and Snead saw little difference between late first-round picks and early second-round picks — why not trade those picks for proven stars who could take an already competitive team a step further toward real contention? Other teams held tightly to their draft picks, and the Rams believed they’d be more likely to give up their best players than future capital.

    The “F——— them picks” era began (the name is a fan creation; Snead often argues how important draft picks were to those Rams even if used in a different way). The Rams sent two first-round picks and a fourth-rounder to Jacksonville for elite cornerback Jalen Ramsey ahead of the 2019 trade deadline.

    After the 2020 season, Goff and McVay’s relationship fractured as the quarterback struggled to navigate the pressure-coverage combinations permeating the league — ironically, as a reaction to McVay’s own prolific offense. The Rams made another shocking trade in late January, sending Goff and two more first-round picks plus a third-rounder to Detroit for Stafford. Ahead of the trade deadline that season, they sent the Broncos their 2022 second- and third-round picks for star pass rusher Von Miller.

    Over those seasons, the wire the Rams walked got thinner. To supplement a lack of young blue-chip talent coming into the roster each year via the draft, they needed to nail their middle-round picks and trade back in the draft to acquire as many as possible. Snead and his scouts, and McVay and his assistants, honed their evaluation and coaching processes to try to maximize what they called a player’s “superpower.” A third-round pick didn’t need to be a star, or even a complete player. He just needed to do one or two things very well in complement of the stars, and he had to have the football IQ to keep up with them.

    It worked. The Rams and their picks-for-players roster won Super Bowl LVI, and Snead stood on the parade stage a few weeks later yelling “F——— them picks” with the crowd while a hoarse and beaming McVay promised they’d “run it back” in 2022.

    Instead, he — and with him, the team — imploded.

    Injuries decimated a roster the Rams had mostly kept intact, including those suffered by Stafford and No. 1 receiver Cooper Kupp, the previous season’s Triple Crown winner and Super Bowl MVP. The Rams finished 5-12.

    McVay, at an all-out sprint since his 2017 hire, wasn’t just burned out. He felt lost. He even considered stepping away from coaching — a break Snead, Demoff and Pastoors offered to him if it would help McVay the person.

    “You’re in the middle of a storm. It’s real gray; things are cloudy,” McVay has told The Athletic of that time.

    When he ultimately decided to return — surrounded by new mentors and determined to become more resilient — the leadership group met privately for several days to decide their next steps as a franchise.

    They believed they had to pivot. Not only was their roster getting older, but it was also expensive. “Run it back” had broken the bank, and bad decisions made in the previous offseason — signing receiver Allen Robinson and linebacker Bobby Wagner — exacerbated the team’s roster and financial issues. The Rams also understood that Stafford, then 35, Kupp (30) and future Hall of Famer Aaron Donald (32) could still keep them in contention. Their time to maximize the three players was limited, though, because of their ages, and the Rams were also aware that Donald had been contemplating retirement.

    Furthermore, many around the NFL had taken on the Rams’ strategy. In March of 2022, there were nine high-profile trades — four of which involved first-round picks, and four that also involved a quarterback. Even when the Rams were in the mix for trades ahead of the 2022 deadline (such as for running back Christian McCaffrey), they found the landscape they had created now too crowded to be competitive. They were outbid by rival San Francisco for McCaffrey — by an extra fourth-round pick that the Rams had previously traded away.

    They realized the booming market they helped create had actually priced them out.

    As 2023 began, Snead staked out Stafford, Kupp and Donald as the team’s “weight-bearing walls,” in his words, and the Rams began to offload the rest of the roster with especial focus on the defense. They took on a record $80 million in dead money, a decision so dramatic that Demoff had to release a letter to season ticket holders that explained the team’s process and expressed his genuine optimism that the team could compete — a “we aren’t tanking” manifesto, some in the organization now joke.

    In April, still without a first-round pick, they drafted 14 rookies — including fifth-rounder Puka Nacua. The scouts went after players with three specific qualities: play speed (using GPS data from events such as the Senior Bowl or from players’ universities instead of a 40-yard dash time), how they projected their bodies would develop and football IQ/character.

    By July, as the Rams prepared to open training camp, they had 44 players on their 90-man roster who were either new to the team or rookies. McVay had a half-dozen new assistant coaches, and they redesigned a run scheme that veered from predominantly wide- and middle-zone concepts, introducing significantly more physical gap and inside runs. He paired lead running back Kyren Williams, a specialist of those inside runs, with bigger guards — second-round draft pick Steve Avila and late-summer acquisition Kevin Dotson.

    McVay, still building his own callouses from the previous year, wanted his team to feel resilient. He wanted toughness to be its identity. Nacua endeared himself to Stafford and other veteran teammates in part because he embodied this immediately. His record-setting breakout rookie season was punctuated with broken tackles and highlight-reel catches. The Rams, surprising everyone, went to the playoffs to take on Goff and the Detroit Lions in the wild-card round.

    They lost. But McVay had rediscovered his love for coaching, buoyed by the joy and energy of the young roster.

    “Man, did I learn a lot,” he said as the Rams’ improbable season ended. “And I really appreciate this group. They helped me find my way again.”

    So Snead doubled down. Donald retired in March 2024. Snead told his scouting staff bluntly that it could not replace the all-time great interior defensive lineman, but it could rebuild the front by pairing multiple young players together who either already had chemistry, or the complementary physical and personality traits that could lead to it.

    Armed with a first-round pick for the first time since 2016, the Rams drafted edge rusher Jared Verse at No. 19, then traded up in the second round to pair him with Florida State teammate Braden Fiske. Along with Kobie Turner and Byron Young, both 2023 third-round picks, the Rams’ defensive line quickly became one of the best pass-rushing units in the NFL (and it certainly was the cheapest).

    That postseason, with many in the organization evacuated because of the devastating fires throughout Los Angeles, the Rams made it to the divisional round in Philadelphia. In the final seconds in the swirling snow, Stafford and the offense were just 13 yards away from a go-ahead touchdown and the NFC Championship Game.

    But a sack and an incomplete pass later, they lost.

    McVay stood in the visitors locker room after the game and looked at the faces of the players standing around him. He began to cry, the first time he ever had truly let tears spill in front of a team. It wasn’t about the loss itself, he later told The Athletic. It was seeing his players so hurt after their effort. The Rams had started 1-4 that season but stayed resilient even through the wildfires.

    It was a sort of poetry that a year later the Rams were again on the road, this time in Chicago but again in the divisional round and in the snow. They had been altered a little for a third consecutive season; Kupp was released last March and signed with Seattle, whom L.A. faces for a third time this season in Sunday’s NFC Championship Game. Snead and McVay renewed the contract terms with Stafford in late February, staving off would-be suitors in the Giants, Raiders and Steelers, and tweaked the roster some by adding run-stopping defensive tackle Poona Ford and All-Pro receiver Davante Adams.

    In Chicago, an ugly game swung toward the unbelievable with just seconds left in regulation when Bears quarterback Caleb Williams threw a touchdown pass on fourth-and-4 with a host of Rams players chasing him deep behind the line of scrimmage to tie the score and send the game into overtime.

    McVay stood frozen for a few moments after Williams’ pass. Then, as NFL Films cameras later revealed, he gathered players to him. As he did a year prior, he looked at their faces. “We are winning this game,” he shouted hoarsely, his breath and that of the players who huddled around him streaming out in thick clouds.

    They did. Safety Kam Curl intercepted Williams, and Stafford led a drive to set up a game-winning field goal. The Rams got one step closer to the Lombardi Trophy than they had the year before and will return to the NFC Championship Game for the first time since re-setting their organizational strategy.

    Now, with few exceptions, they are a homegrown team. Three of their five offensive linemen and both running backs were drafted by the franchise (or were added as undrafted free agents). So were three of their four tight ends. All but one receiver; all but one defensive lineman. Two of three starting corners; two of three safeties. Every pass rusher. Their newly extended starting middle linebacker, Nate Landman, was initially a cheap free-agent signing, now an outlier on a defense full of drafted players. The team made 30 picks in three years. (And still, only one was in the first round. Snead is still Snead, after all.)

    And of course there’s Stafford — whose acquisition was the signature move of the Rams’ last Super Bowl era. He is one win away from leading a totally different team to another championship.

    It’s another version of the Rams. Another version of Snead and McVay and everyone who helped build and then rebuild it all. They chose to pivot the hard way — with sometimes painful decisions, educated by sometimes painful moments.

    “We’ve been strengthened through our scars,” said McVay.

    They chose toughness.

    in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 1/22 – 1/24 #161681
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    Chances that Nacua says things in public are pretty good, I’m afraid.

    Once.

    Wanna bet it never happens again?

    But even then, he did not criticize the Rams. Which was my point. Jones did.

    Nacua was straightened out when it comes to the act of completely free opinion delivery in public. But what I was talking about was rocking the Rams own boat. Nacua was in fact straightened out–but he never crossed the really dark line, he never went after the Rams. Again, Jones did.

    I don’t know if I want to bet. I already have $6 on the line, and I feel exposed.

    But I will say that Puka is on double secret probation with me. The fact that he didn’t criticize the Rams doesn’t mean he is conscious that he shouldn’t cross that line. His complaint had nothing to do with the Rams. When it’s time to extend him, I’m not so sure we won’t hear from him. He’s already said dumb shit twice.

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    Not to many atheist players or coaches in the NFL. But there have been a few.

    How do they explain the Ravens losing the AFC Championship game to KC in 2023?

    in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 1/22 – 1/24 #161661
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    Being “family” with the McVay/Snead Rams means, you do not do yer boat rockin in public.

    Chances that Nacua says things in public are pretty good, I’m afraid.

    in reply to: Rams tweets etc. … 1/22 – 1/24 #161649
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    i do guess we know what happened with kupp. injuries.

    Yeah, we know what happened to Kupp. The Jones trade is still shrouded in mystery, afaik. I bet Jourdan knows.

    in reply to: The pusher … Durant in the endzone w/ the Bears TE #161648
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    That angle makes it look more like a push-off than any other angle does, but it’s still a standard-issue disentanglement, imo. Kmet did not shove Durant out of the way, and prevent him from making a play. That was a perfect throw. It just was. If the ref had thrown the flag on that, this entire week would have been nonstop bitching about that call from everybody. And as I said earlier, I think that throw went to Caleb’s head, and he thought he was magic at that point, and that hubris made him throw a pass where only Curl could catch it. And, incidentally, that is the kind of edge the Rams have had this season: experience, discipline.

    The Rams have had a number of “razor’s edge” games this year where the outcome was decided by a single play (Eagles, 9ers, Seahawks 1st time), or in the wake of a crucial play (Seahawks 2nd time, Bears, Texans). That’s off the top of my head; I may be forgetting others. But I have more confidence in the Rams in a tight game down the stretch than I do in whoever they’re playing. The Chicago game is exhibit A.

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    He’s their Quentin Lake.

    Yeah, these hybrid LB/Safeties seem to be one of the responses to the new rules opening up the passing game. They are pure gold to defensive-coordinators.

    Its nice to have a good ‘safety’ or a good ‘linebacker’ but the great defenses these days always seem to have at least one F’ing outstanding ‘hybrid’.

    I still miss the old days, though. When all linebackers looked like Jack Reynolds or Kevin Greene. Or Myron Pottios

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    “…The Rams drafted middle linebacker Jack “Hacksaw” Reynolds as the team’s first pick in the 1970 NFL draft.[39] In 1970, Pottios regained his starting middle linebacker position, and started all 14 games. On the season, he had two interceptions and two fumbles recovered, playing for a defense that finished tied for 2nd among 26 NFL teams in points allowed.[1][16][40] However, though Reynolds did not become the starting middle linebacker until 1973, this was Pottios’s final year with the Rams…” wiki

    Everything was better in those days, except for the fact that the Rams never won when it mattered.

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    in reply to: Seattle for the Marbles #161641
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    I was just kidding. I don’t know anything about emmonwori. Or didn’t. Now I do.

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