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ZooeyModeratorAnd I’m betting Montana didn’t look like Montana 3 weeks into his first NFL camp either.
I’m betting he did. It’s just nobody was comparing anybody to Montana yet.
August 23, 2016 at 7:25 pm in reply to: Tre Mason's mother: he is like '10-year-old' due to head injuries #51486
ZooeyModeratorYeah, right. Of course. And she would have an interest in that version of the story.
I suppose this will unfold. I wonder if there were any behaviors last year during the season that just never made it out. You would think some Rams reporter would have caught wind of some stories about Tre if he, you know, stated a belief in mermaids, or something.
August 23, 2016 at 6:21 pm in reply to: Tre Mason's mother: he is like '10-year-old' due to head injuries #51479
ZooeyModeratorWow. And what is he, 23? That isn’t good. Boy, he didn’t even play all that much, and I don’t remember him ever getting dinged on the field. Football players are just too big and fast.
Sounds like an injury settlement, and it’s over for Tre.
ZooeyModeratorI tend to think the cohesion/improvement on the OL is more responsible for the 7-7 red zone TD statistic than anything else.
ZooeyModeratorGood news for me, not so good for Quick.
I got Britt, Austin, Cooper, Marquez, and Spruce.
Don’t know if they are carrying Six.
ZooeyModeratorI don’t see anyone stopping this run game. The D doesn’t look right just yet. I watched live on Game Pass and had to listen to K.C announcers just awful . It was like they wouldn’t even mention a Rams player’s name and holding interviews during the game completely ignoring the Rams play.Worse than the infamous preseason Browns game a few years back.
Yep, and yep. Watching the D give up opening drive TDs in both games is disappointing. No Quinn sightings yet, but still. And Ogletree has been largely invisible, though I don’t know if that’s a bad sign, or not. I just know I saw a lot of him last year up until his injury.
Yeah, the KC announcers obviously did not care enough to prepare for the game. Seemed like they knew the names and numbers of about 10 – 15 Rams. The highlight of their coverage was the interview with the Modern Family guy. He was pretty funny. But I started muting the game at times because of the announcers.
ZooeyModeratorI agree on Goff. He has the physical tools, and the mentality, as far as I can tell. But he is a boy. I think when he starts to grow whiskers, he could be a good one. My concern at this point is that they start him too soon, and he gets mentally damaged – loses confidence. Let’s hope Weinke is a good psychologist.
I am also in the School of Not Caring whether it’s Keenum or Goff this year. I was perfectly content to go with Keenum and Mannion this year, and spend the #1 on a WR. Keenum is not a Pro Bowl guy, but he is steady and reliable. He doesn’t make bonehead mistakes. Like someone said, he knows who he is, and he plays with that knowledge. So I woulda been fine without Goff. But there are signs in that green, green boy that he can play the game.
I thought it was a good sign that the second TD drive (10 plays, 79 yards) was executed without Gurley on the field, and without Tavon touching the ball even once.
I like what I see of Cooper. He looks like another Little Engine that Could.
Speaking of which…no Spruce sighting last night. I was a bit surprised by that, and also by the lack of time for Green and Mannion. On the QBs, they may have been compensating for the Cowboys game when Goff didn’t get the time they wanted for him, and Mannion got more, but why didn’t we see Spruce or Green? Maybe Spruce was there, and Goff never targeted him. I dunno.
Brian Quick. I’m not sure when the sand runs out in that glass, but the guy better start catching the ball soon. Not every throw to him is going to be perfect, but sometimes you just gotta go Malcolm Brown on the throw, and catch it. I would think we are approaching Now or Never with Quick.
Hope Westbrooks and Marquez are okay. Neither one looked very good. Marquez let out one of those yells that is usually bad news.
August 20, 2016 at 10:53 am in reply to: This is the stuff of nightmares until you realize what it is #51206
ZooeyModeratorIt’s true. Posting on a phone is a pain.
ZooeyModeratorYet the GOP controls congress. Far from dead. Look at the impending breakup of the democrat party in the near future.
This is what I keep saying.
The gerrymandered districts will keep the Republicans in control of congress, of a lot of state governments, and won’t lose the Senate by much if they lose it at all. They will survive this storm.
August 20, 2016 at 10:42 am in reply to: youtube party…post a song you like which you think is not that widely known #51202
ZooeyModeratorI found this CD at the library a few years ago.
ZooeyModeratorAnother key here (IMO). Trump is only within striking distance to begin with because of Clinton.
I happen to not agree with that.
I think that other dem candidates are just as vulnerable in different ways. And Trump has tapped into something, and that thing is real, even if we also (rightly) don’t like what it is.
In terms of Clinton, yes she has been the object of a relentless right wing “pressure and smear” campaign for years now, but then tellingly she is still ahead.
That smear campaign is so deep that I rarely if ever hear anyone actually discuss policies when it comes to this election. Oddly, that even extends to policy-focused lefties who somehow lost their game over this one. It has reached the point where I positively don’t give a damm what people think of her as a person. To me that stuff is like a sugar-heavy diet—it ain’t nutrition. It’s not substance. I don’t care. (Actually I also don;t care about Trump’s gaffes, and strategic slams he knows won’t hurt him, and his personality. Just. Policies. People go well these are 2 bad candidates. Again, I could give a damm—that is as superficial as anything we complain about in the mass media. If I don’t get an authentic policy discussion soon, I may just tune the entire thing out.)
But at the same time Clinton has a dedicated core that sticks with someone who is liberal on social issues. Believe me I know…I could care less about personality or smear issues, but tend not to identify with the right-center dem world. And trying to discuss HC rationally with that dedicated core is nearly impossible. They can’t talk policies either.
This time, to me, it’s like the audience has no clothes yet they all complain about the emperor.
Well, I don’t care very much about discussing the policies this time around because it’s like discussing whether I would rather be drawn and quartered, or tied down naked on top of an agitated nest of bullet ants. I imagine being drawn and quartered is worse, but I wouldn’t get any pleasure out of going into the details of either of these events.
ZooeyModeratorTrump, who is on to something, will still probably fail to win simply because he’s an asshole.
So we can debate his opinions all we want, but the plain truth is that he expresses his opinions in such an irresponsible way that many people will refuse to vote for him.
More likely he expresses the true opinions of the majority of voters who are tied of being lied to by establishment candidates. His speech last night was all about fixing the nightmare caused by the so called ‘responsible’ candidates.
That doesn’t contradict what I said. I admit he “is on to something.” He clearly has expressed the sentiments of a lot of voters (I don’t know about “majority,” but a lot. For sure).
What I said is that his expression of those opinions is offensive to a lot of people.
ZooeyModeratorEpisode 2 was more cotton candy, but what did anyone expect? They can’t show anything revealing. And they need stories.
The stories surely are written retrospectively. And I’m guessing a lot of the focus will be on cuts. The show is Hard Knocks, after all. So this week we got quite a bit of Randolph, who then rips an ACL and is done. If Randolph had not ripped his ACL, he probably wouldn’t have made the episode at all. I think they are out there all day filming everybody, and then after the game, they go back and pull all the footage they have of the guys who were “stories,” one way or another. It’s cotton candy.
I was glad to see there are only 3 more episodes. I thought it lasted all season. I have to watch it because it’s the Rams, but I will be very glad when it’s over because the show sucks.
August 18, 2016 at 11:21 pm in reply to: This is the stuff of nightmares until you realize what it is #51092
ZooeyModeratorYes, our destruction of the biosphere continues unabated.
Everyone should really enjoy awesome creatures like the leatherback sea turtle while they can because we will likely be the last generation to see them.
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Do you ever just sit back and feel ‘awe’ and ‘wonder’ over the variety
of life-forms on this planet? I do. I mean, think of hummingbirds. And leatherback turtles. And mantis shrimps. And tapirs. Vampire Squids. Luna Moths. Ya know. There’s just a shitload of life-forms on this little dysfunctional planet.w
vYeah, the great diversity is awe-inspiring but what I like is that I share ancestry with all the myriad creatures that comprise that great diversity. It’s the interrelatedness of it all that gets me. I share ancestry with the tapir, giant squid and the redwood tree. I share ancestry with millions of species living and extinct. That includes every species that is living or has ever lived. They are all relatives.
On the other hand, that makes sending Xmas cards a chore…
Well, goody for YOU, Mr. Nittany.
I am not related to those critters.
I am descended from the angels that built Atlantis back in the Golden Age.
ZooeyModeratorTrump, who is on to something, will still probably fail to win simply because he’s an asshole.
So we can debate his opinions all we want, but the plain truth is that he expresses his opinions in such an irresponsible way that many people will refuse to vote for him.
ZooeyModeratorTrump is a product of a broken America, the same as the Baconator and increased suicide rates. That’s what I got out of that article. There’s probably something to that. He’s definitely tapped into the anxieties of white males. And, he’s increased the anxieties of just about any other demographic.
Yeah, me too. Trump isn’t a “cure.” He’s a “lash out.” He’s a Samson pulling down the pillars of the temple. “I don’t care if it kills me, I am putting an end to this shit one way or another.”
ZooeyModeratorThis is interesting.
There is something rough about the ideas in here. It doesn’t seem completely convincing as it stands, but the idea behind the article intrigues me somewhat. I can’t quite put a finger on what appeals to me here, and what just doesn’t seem to click into place. It’s like an unfinished conversation at the end of the evening in a bar, I guess.
That is a good article, Zooey. Thanks for linking to it. You probably already know this, especially with your background, but O’Hehir is a really good movie critic too. Very astute at picking up on hidden gems among foreign and indy films, or pointing us in the direction of films we should know about that are well-known in other countries.
Anyway . . . his overall picture of America made me think of Rick Moody’s Purple America and pretty much everything by Don DeLillo. America really is in big trouble, and he’s right to say the Dems aren’t helping matters with that happy happy joy joy nonsense, though it’s preferable to the GOP’s End of Days rhetoric.
There is, of course, no “happy medium.” But we’re somewhere between our best and an actual Armageddon. Perhaps too close to the latter for comfort, but it’s not happening for the reasons given on Fox news, Breitbart, Alex Jones or Trump.
Neither party has the answers. None of our “leaders” do. In short, we’re rudderless. Maybe that’s something we can work with?
Yeah, I thought the blithe dismissal of all concerns by Hillary was strange, out of touch, and off key. As a purely tactical decision, it made sense. She said, “America is already great and will get even better.” Well, as untrue as that is, it is going to sell better than “Everything is fucked, and the fucking fuckers are all fucked, but I will make it better! Somehow. Trust me.”
At this point, though, the thing that most concerns me is post-November. If/when Hillary wins, there are millions of people who are going to lose it, and we are in for some bitter, ugly years.
ZooeyModeratorThere are many differences but here is one key one.
That has changed over the years. The right has gone from being conservative traditionalists who believe collective moral norms are paramount to being sociopathic individualists who defend the power of a wealthy few to dominate a society.
The left believes in using public resources to both limit the arbitrary power of the wealthy few over the majority and to give more individuals in general more opportunities to live comfortably well and pursue happiness.
Yes, and Taibbi nailed that one with precision: “The most successful trick was linking the corporate mantra of profit without responsibility to the concept of individual liberty.”
On the question of contempt for the poor, afaik that is a uniquely American thing. I think we are the only culture that equates net worth to spiritual worth.
ZooeyModeratorBill Frist is or was a republican leader? What a joke.
Your evident dislike of Frist doesn’t alter reality. He was Senate Majority Leader of the Republicans which kind of makes him fall under the category of Republican leader.
ZooeyModeratorMatt Taibbi is the very best.
Coupla bits I liked:
If this isn’t the end for the Republican Party, it’ll be a shame. They dominated American political life for 50 years and were never anything but monsters. They bred in their voters the incredible attitude that Republicans were the only people within our borders who raised children, loved their country, died in battle or paid taxes. They even sullied the word “American” by insisting they were the only real ones. They preferred Lubbock to Paris, and their idea of an intellectual was Newt Gingrich. Their leaders, from Ralph Reed to Bill Frist to Tom DeLay to Rick Santorum to Romney and Ryan, were an interminable assembly line of shrieking, witch-hunting celibates, all with the same haircut – the kind of people who thought Iran-Contra was nothing, but would grind the affairs of state to a halt over a blow job or Terri Schiavo’s feeding tube.
And this:
This avalanche of verbose disgust on the part of conservative intellectuals toward the Trump voter, who until very recently was the Republican voter, tells us everything we need to know about what actually happened in 2016.
I agree with Taibbi that the key to the Trump revolt is the fact that Republicans have been promising that they care about Main Street and its values for 40 years, and when elected, they do nothing to fulfill those promises. It isn’t just the heartland, though. It’s the 80 million evangelicals who have gone to the effort of putting planks on anti-abortion and gay “rehabilitation” into the platform. No way in hell are they ever going to have those promises delivered on by the Republican establishment that has been promising all that forever.
And I sure do love it whenever anyone mocks George Will and/or Andrew Sullivan. I can never get enough of that.
ZooeyModeratorJason La Canfora
Expect plenty of expletives out of Jeff Fisher on the next Hard Knocks: The Rams continue to take a lot of silly flags. Especially on special teams. They handed plays and drives back to the Cowboys and generally got burned for it, and the starting defense was not sharp, especially against the run.
The Rams were penalized twice for a total of 13 yards. In contrast, Dallas was penalized 10 times for 87 yards.
La Canfora drew my attention during the “move to LA” story, and not in a good way. I noticed he just didn’t have his facts straight.
And this.
Did he even watch the game?
ZooeyModeratorSo RFL is sleeping around, huh?
ZooeyModeratorIt was hard not to watch Mannion and think that maybe staying put at #15 and taking a WR would have been better. But the FO seems pretty confident that in three years, Goff will make me forget about that. I hope so.
Love Spruce and Green.
This team is getting better.
ZooeyModeratorLooked to me like Hayes and Donald were out of the game before the Cowboys first drive ended. I think they only played about 5 or 6 snaps. The entire starting unit was out quickly, in fact.
Goff threw mostly out of the shotgun. I expected they would work more on being under center, and they played him less than they said they would. I was less impressed with Goff than the other posters in this thread, I guess, but that one throw had a vapor trail on it the likes of which we have not seen in a while.
Mannion and Spruce were the standouts to me. Liked what I saw of both of them. Spruce is just one of those “gamers.” Oh, and Higbee. Nice touch giving him 89. He did not resemble his forebear in that jersey.
ZooeyModeratorI hear Canova has no realistic shot in that district. Shultz has it locked down.
It would be great if he pulled the upset.
But look for the establishment to win again.
I saw a headline saying that, too. I don’t think it would matter much, anyway, for those who are motivated by wanting to see Shultz get her comeuppance. Pretty sure Hillary would find a spot for her, and there’s a good chance she will, anyway.
ZooeyModeratorAnd she is likely the REAL author of Shakespeare’s plays.
ZooeyModeratorI disagree. StanK is reviled for good reason.
Sure.
But how long is that going to dominate discussion of the Rams?
At some point, I’d like to read something about the Rams rather than “We got screwed; Stan sucks” for the 500th time.
ZooeyModeratorBowling Green has an underrated D line coach that gets a lot out of his kids.
That’s not necessarily good news for the Rams. Could mean the kid has already reached his ceiling.
You said the same thing about London Fletcher. Exact same words.
From 1998:
That’s not necessarily good news for the Rams. Could mean the kid has already reached his ceiling.
ZooeyModeratorHow about that HBO hard knocks tribute to St Louis? Best 5 seconds of television ever
by Dr D 1:19 PMHey, this year’s edition of Hard Knocks is all about the league hyping the return of football to Los Angeles Nothing more.
by jthomas 1:20 PMYeah, I’m looking forward to more bikinis at the beach footage.
Meanwhile. JT. These chats are becoming unreadable.
If these are just going to be bitch sessions, the sooner you have a new beat, the better. If you aren’t going to talk about the Rams, but just the Jilting of Granny Weatherall, it’s time to turn the page.
ZooeyModeratorTwo words: Eric Kush.
A star in the making.
I hate “reality” television.
But he’s good. Very good.
It was a little surprising to hear someone explain that inch-wide shoulder straps on tank tops are a more formal look than spaghetti straps.
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