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ZooeyModeratorInteresting. I haven’t read any articles about this. IIRC, the Rams organization didn’t score well on their player report cards the last couple of years. I’m too lazy to confirm that though. I wonder if this is a move to start fixing things in that regard.
I guess it is possible that I’m thinking about this like a tourist and not an NFL player. Perhaps this is just another minicamp to them and the extra travel will just be any annoyance.
I had the same thought. It seems like a perk.
As regards to the player report cards, though, I think SOME of that is due to the inferior facilities they’ve had where they’ve trained (community colleges) and so on.
ZooeyModeratorThat game against the 9ers in the rain where Stafford kinda sucked is the game where his shoulder(?) got banged up, and all the subsequent games were sketchy because of that injury.
But. I think he has a point. And so does Cowherd, even though I didn’t agree with him the first time I saw that bit from him.
You get it while you can. And I even sort of left that door open in my own celebration of the opportunity to draft a QB next year when I acknowledged that they might trade one of those picks this coming season to get a Von Miller/OBJ kind of “put ’em over the top” player.
Ideally, of course, they would win now, and set themselves up for prolonged competitiveness down the road. But like the Rams said, they aren’t going to be able to sign Young, Turner, Fiske, and Verse to second contracts. The NFL is Now. Among all the top sports, the NFL is the one where you have to play like there is no tomorrow. You have 17 games, and a one-and-done playoff format. Every single game matters. All the other sports have the luxury of a longer view.
Cowherd may be right. Get an OT and a CB. That just may be where the Rams find themselves.
ZooeyModeratorI’m now suing the NFL for $100 million because the Rams lost to the Eagles in that game.
ZooeyModeratorpretty soon. if the rams just keep hitting on these lower round picks. the rams are gonna lose some really good people in their personnel department.
That’s still better than keeping them because they aren’t really good.
ZooeyModeratorI am not a big Noteboom fan.
I thought he was serviceable. He never became what I wanted – a solid LOT – and they probably overpaid him – but I considered him a good #6. Outside and inside.
ZooeyModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Ravens reached agreement on a new contract with former Rams OT Joseph Noteboom. More OT depth in Baltimore.Good luck to Joe.
ZooeyModeratorAdam Schefter@AdamSchefter
Steelers officially signed WR Robert Woods to a one-year contract today.I’m still mad, for the record.
ZooeyModeratorIt makes sense that the Rams and McVay would want to get back to more 12 personnel.
They were 4th in EPA/pass from 12 personnel last season.
Ferguson is basically just a bigger, heavier Cooper Kupp. Would expect Ferguson to do some Kupp things. pic.twitter.com/IBiFtVkXTa
— Blaine Grisak 💭 (@bgrisakTST) May 1, 2025
April 30, 2025 at 8:18 pm in reply to: At 26 the Rams 1st round pick is…a trade out with Atlanta #156292
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April 30, 2025 at 7:53 pm in reply to: At 26 the Rams 1st round pick is…a trade out with Atlanta #156283
ZooeyModeratorBrowns, Rams poised to capitalize on 2026 QB class that looks much stronger than 2025 crop
By Jeff Howe
April 30, 2025Updated 5:45 am PDT
The biggest winners of the NFL Draft might not have a chance to cash in on their investments until next year.The Cleveland Browns and Los Angeles Rams each added first-round picks in 2026, which is shaping up to boast a much better collection of quarterbacks than the 2025 class. And it could be one of the most memorable classes in recent history if Texas’ Arch Manning declares to enhance the level of star power.
“If I’m one of those teams,” a personnel executive said, “I am jacked up I got another first-round pick.”
There was a shortage of pre-draft trades this year, largely due to a lack of excitement over the quarterback class. The Tennessee Titans quickly centered their focus around Cam Ward with the No. 1 pick, and they rebuffed efforts by the Browns and New York Giants to move up. Jaxson Dart and Tyler Shough were the only other QBs to go in the first two rounds.
The relative absence of urgency to overreach at quarterback was, in part, related to 2026. Taking a QB in the first round last week would have likely eliminated them from contention with an early pick a year from now. Or at the very least, it would have been deemed a misuse of premium assets.
To be clear, it’s a bit early to be overly confident about the known commodities in 2026, but personnel departments have been optimistic for months about the group. They don’t think it will rival the high-end talent from the 2024 group that produced six first-rounders, but it’s safe to project it’ll be a significant upgrade from 2025.
“It certainly seems stronger than this year’s class,” a scout said. “But it ultimately may depend on who declares for the NFL.”
Manning will be the crown jewel if he declares, and the pre-draft hype around him will be comparable to recent top prospects like Trevor Lawrence and Caleb Williams. Teams are skeptical Manning will declare, though, as they wonder if he’ll play out his eligibility like uncles Peyton and Eli Manning. The Athletic spoke to five executives and scouts for this story, with all leaning in the direction of predicting Arch Manning would return to school in 2026.
Manning has the obvious pedigree and off-field intangibles; he’s also got ideal size, accuracy to layer the ball all around the field, decision-making ability, speed and running power. There’s some question over his throwing power, but it’s not viewed as a concern if he continues to anticipate at such a high level. There’s also plenty of time to improve his arm strength.
LSU’s Garrett Nussmeier and Penn State’s Drew Allar have routinely been tabbed as top prospects, while South Carolina’s LaNorris Sellers is set to draw plenty of attention. UCLA’s Nico Iamaleava, who just transferred from Tennessee over a name, image and likeness negotiation, could position himself as an early pick if his tape can match his traits. Clemson’s Cade Klubnik could insert himself into the conversation, assuming he continues his growth while the Tigers return a large contingent of their offensive talent. And finally, The Athletic’s draft expert, Dane Brugler, believes there’s good reason to believe Indiana QB (and Cal transfer) Fernando Mendoza could be a first-round talent, as well.
The Bears got an elite weapon for their offense in Loveland, and Skattebo should be a Giants fan favorite. Who else appealed to our writers?
Of course, there’s a long way to go in the process. Ward was a relative unknown this time a year ago. Ditto for Jayden Daniels two years ago. Joe Burrow was mired in anonymity a year before his historic season at LSU vaulted him to the top pick of the 2020 draft. There are countless similar examples.Ole Miss’ Austin Simmons isn’t yet on the NFL’s radar but could fit that bill. And league evaluators noted Arizona State’s Sam Leavitt, Miami’s Carson Beck, Baylor’s Sawyer Robinson and Kansas State’s Avery Johnson among QBs who will draw long looks during their upcoming seasons.
“There are so many guys like that, it’s hard to sit here now and know for sure (who will make the leap),” an executive said. “But I see more candidates to make that jump than the 2025 class.”
Those quarterbacks won’t all develop into marquee draft prospects, just as there will surely be a QB who hasn’t been mentioned but will improve his stock. And because they make so much NIL money, there’s more incentive than ever to stay in school to maximize their eligibility. These prospects don’t need to look any further than Shedeur Sanders and Quinn Ewers to recognize how quickly they can be humbled by their draft hopes.
“I don’t know that this is going to be a historic class like two years ago,” an executive said. “But think about it: You had two guys (who were known commodities) at this point (of the 2024 process). We didn’t know that Bo Nix or Michael Penix Jr. would have gotten there.”
The next class will methodically come into focus over the next six months or so. Teams will attend summer practices to examine traits, watch how they play during the early portions of their regular-season schedules, and then really get to work once the QBs get into conference play. At that point, as was the case this cycle with Ward, prospects will distinguish themselves.
“The group is better than this year’s,” a scout said. “And there’s certainly a long way to go.”
This is why it’s overly beneficial for teams to increase their chances. The Browns added a future first-rounder (and more) by bypassing two-way star Travis Hunter, dropping from No. 2 to 5 and taking Michigan defensive tackle Mason Graham. While the Browns selected Dillon Gabriel in the third round and Sanders in the fifth, that’s not nearly enough to take them out of the running for a quarterback next year.
Plus, the Browns continue to have salary cap issues due to Deshaun Watson’s contract, so they figure to struggle again in 2025. Couple that with the Jacksonville Jaguars’ 2026 pick, and the Browns appear to be in the best position to control next year’s draft.
“It makes what Cleveland did look very smart,” an executive said. “I thought (Browns general manager Andrew Berry) did an awesome job.”
But don’t dismiss the Rams. They’re in good position to get back into the playoffs, but they got an unexpected boost when the Atlanta Falcons offered their next first-round pick in a deal for the 26th selection, which they used on edge rusher James Pearce Jr. If the Falcons miss the playoffs for the eighth consecutive season, the Rams could be in a great spot to pick Matthew Stafford’s replacement.

The Browns and Rams could benefit in another way, too. In one hypothetical scenario, Manning may not declare, several QBs emerge as first-round talents and the Browns and Rams could use their extra first-rounders to kick the can into 2027. Or maybe Sanders proves the world wrong and has a dazzling rookie season, allowing the Browns to auction one of those picks to a QB-needy team.
One executive laughed at the thought, pointing out the Browns’ and Rams’ division rivals will be rooting for the Jaguars and Falcons to win as much as possible to reduce the value of those draft assets.
Conversely, the Jaguars and Falcons took on a lot of risk. The Jaguars have Lawrence, while Penix will enter his first full season as the Falcons’ star, so neither organization believes they’ll be in the quarterback market a year from now. But there are few certainties in the NFL. And again, they can’t auction a pick they’ve already traded.
“If you need a QB, you would not trade (your future first-rounder), and you would try to acquire picks in the next draft for ammo, if possible,” an executive said.
Another executive added, “In general, trading a future (first-rounder) is a really bad idea from a team-building standpoint because you’re never one player away. For anything other than a quarterback, you’re not going to recoup the value.”
The Jaguars and Falcons went for it to try to accelerate their rebuilds. The Browns and Rams were happy to oblige, hoping their patience would lead to significantly extra value with added opening-round picks. The scoreboard watching will yield new levels of excitement next season in those buildings.
If the next quarterback class develops into what most around the league believe it can be, the Browns and Rams could be huge retroactive draft winners.
April 30, 2025 at 1:02 pm in reply to: At 26 the Rams 1st round pick is…a trade out with Atlanta #156276
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April 29, 2025 at 8:45 pm in reply to: At 26 the Rams 1st round pick is…a trade out with Atlanta #156271
ZooeyModeratorI’m betting the Rams will be able to get one of the top 5 QBs in college football with their 2 firsts in 2026 and their first in 2027.
https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-top-10-returning-quarterbacks-2025
I’ve tasted mayonnaise with bolder flavor than that prediction.
April 29, 2025 at 7:51 pm in reply to: At 26 the Rams 1st round pick is…a trade out with Atlanta #156269
ZooeyModeratorApril 29, 2025 at 11:57 am in reply to: Just a thread for different kindsa interesting things #156266
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Fucking hell. MLB is seeking Trump’s opinion on integrity?
I’ll just be out back consulting with wolves on how they view veganism.
April 28, 2025 at 9:27 pm in reply to: articles, vids, etc. wrapping up & assessing the Rams draft #156260
ZooeyModeratorThis is what happens when you let English majors talk about football. They should stay in their lane.
Mina Kimes makes only $1.7 million a year from ESPN talking football. Imagine what she could make if she focused on turn-of-the-century, one-hit wonders like Jacobs, and Saki, and O. Henry.
ZooeyModeratorSeems able to make catches on passes that are off target.
April 28, 2025 at 7:39 pm in reply to: articles, vids, etc. wrapping up & assessing the Rams draft #156252
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ZooeyModeratorSo Nittany was watching the draft podcast of a Seahawks enthusiast. How not surprising is that?
ZooeyModeratorOf course, the piece de resistance is the brand new shiny franchise QB they can get next year courtesy of Atlanta’s cluelessness.
This is the first time in my life that I have looked forward to a draft one year in advance.
April 27, 2025 at 9:20 pm in reply to: articles, vids, etc. wrapping up & assessing the Rams draft #156219
ZooeyModeratorHunter joins a somewhat crowded backfield with Kyren Williams and Blake Corum.
I saw nothing from Blake Corum last season that leads me to believe I will remember his name in 5 years.
April 27, 2025 at 9:12 pm in reply to: articles, vids, etc. wrapping up & assessing the Rams draft #156218
ZooeyModerator“I think it was, like you said, based on our roster, who we were, how the board was going, players that you really were convicted could come in and contribute, whatever that vision for the role was, and it was starting to get thin,” Snead said. “So we said, you know what, instead of wait and just, I call it, letting the draft happen to you, let’s go attack the draft. And when you do that, you have to give up some picks, but we thought that was the more appropriate thing to do.”
Les should just come out and say that Nicole Blake told him what to do, and he did it.
ZooeyModeratorThey do Stewart at 39:24 in. It’s a rave.
That is some unsolicited, high praise from before the draft. Wow.
Let’s go.
ZooeyModeratorI appreciate you guys bringing this material in here, but I feel like there hasn’t been enough attention given to Shadeur Sanders. I was actually thinking we should have a Shadeur Sanders Forum here, but if not that, at least a thread anchored to the top of this forum.
I miss the blue board.
ZooeyModeratorStill no CBs or OTs.
ZooeyModeratorAnd one thing every pick has in common. They are all intense players, to the point of ferocious. They don’t all have ideal physical traits for their position (though Ferguson does), but they all play aggressively, like they want to BE the dogs of war.
This is the first thing that comes to my mind. I think that the Rams really have an angle on the draft that is serving them very well, and that is that they ask foremost, “Is this guy a Ram?” The emphasis on character has paid off for them. Aaron Donald, Cooper Kupp, Matthew Stafford – these guys worked their asses off, and put team goals above personal goals. That is what McVay means by “being a Ram.” Skill and talent matters, obviously.
And it is interesting to me that only ONE of the picks came in a slot the Rams owned originally. Every other guy was picked in a slot they traded for. They had their 7 different pools of players, and they targeted their guys, and when it was time to move, they moved. They don’t just sit there and let the chips fall where they may. They have a plan, and they go do it.
So they got guys. On purpose. They don’t just draft, and then see what happens in camp. They know how they intend to use these guys.
I also agree with wv. We have to add that extra #1 next year to the evaluation of the overall grade the week gets, and I think that’s the biggest W of draft. They may use it to get their future QB, or they may use it to get a Von Miller, OBJ, or Jalen Ramsey if they hit the trade deadline and need a piece to get the hardware this year.
Apart from that sensational trade, I think the Chris Paul acquisition is potentially the biggest steal. We all knew they had to be sifting the draft for a body to plug in the middle, but I didn’t expect it to be a guy with this kind of report, and to grab him in the 5th seems like another Rams’ miracle
A mild surprise is no OT. I noticed that Logan Brown went undrafted. I know him only because Ellenborgen mentioned him in that video wv posted of the Jones pick. I’m sure the Rams are filling in the OL with UDFAs as we speak, though, and the need isn’t dire there, so it’s not really a disappointment.
Anyway. We shall see.
ZooeyModeratorI dunno. Looks like he is an inch too short.

London Fletcher was 5’10”.
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Per ESPN Research, Rams’ 8-straight years drafting a running back is the longest active streak in the NFL and the longest streak by any team since Washington from 2011-2020.Bit of a coincidence that McVay was on that Washington staff. Can imagine many are pissed over this pick
I took it for granted that they would get a RB. Don’t know why anybody would be pissed. I like Kyren, but as productive as he has been (especially for his draft position), he isn’t Gurley, Jackson, Faulk, Bettis, Dickerson. And he has been hurt, and nearing the end of his contract. I would have been surprised if they didn’t draft a RB in a draft class deep with good ones.
ZooeyModeratorFWIW from CBS

ZooeyModeratori really hope this is true and not just a “mcvay pick”. this could be huge for the rams. i was hoping allen could be that guy, but he hasn’t been able to break through. plus who knows if higbee will even be back after next season.
This one little insight warms me up to him considerably, and I don’t doubt that Jourdan’s comment is true. The other thing that caught my eye was McVay talking about how Ferguson has a skill set he can scheme for to add as a weapon (presumably in a way that Higbee lacks, or is not as good at).
We know that the Rams were making noise about drafting Bowers last year, so adding a TE has been part of McVay’s strategic vision for a couple of years now. So all that is good.
And I doubt Higbee is here in 2026, fwiw.
ZooeyModeratorDoes anybody know if there is a Jourdan Rodrigue Fan Club?
Ruffy the search and rescue dog opens day three of the Rams’ draft, he has a great response for when his trainer says “sit!” 🥲❤️
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@jourdanrodrigue.bsky.social) 2025-04-26T15:46:54.573Z
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