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ZooeyModeratorPA, my thoughts are with you. We will all be hoping for the best.
ZooeyModeratorYep.
All through the 80s and 90s, I could at least believe that the Left could triumph somewhere down the road. That the arc of history is long, and we could ultimately gain the upper hand.
But, you know, that whistle just signaled the two-minute warning on the biosphere, and it’s over. I suppose we could score in the next 12 seconds, then recover a fumble on the kickoff, score on the next play, then get an onsides kick to set up a chance…but somehow…that doesn’t ever seem to happen.
The game is over.
And I have kids that are going to be alive when the shit hits the fan.
You think the Trump fascists and gun nuts are out of control now? Just wait…
Where’s Mackeyser? We can usually count on him to enter a thread right about now, and make everything even worse.
ZooeyModeratorOne problem that the Democratic party is that there just are not enough progressives to run.
Yeah, I see it the same way. Bernie will be too old, and there is nobody else.
Mind you…2 years ago I would have said you were crazy if you thought Sanders would run and break 10% of the vote.
But as I have previously stated, I think 2016 was basically our last chance to avoid disaster to civilization anyway. I think even if Sanders got elected in 2020 with both the Senate and the House, it would basically be too late to get anything done in time to avert the destabilization of society from climate change anyway. We just aren’t even seriously taking on climate change, overpopulation, or dwindling resources in any way, so … goodbye. It’s not going to be pretty.
ZooeyModeratorYou know what.
I am tired of Clinton apologists blaming the left for her loss.
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I’m tired of
Corporate-Capitalism,
Corporate-Media,
Corporate-Democrats,
Corporate-Republicans,
and Corporate-Personhood.Hitler did not threaten to destroy the entire biosphere.
Corporations are well on their way to destroying the biosphere.I’m tired of that.
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vOh, don’t worry. It will be fine. We will get a sensible Democrat in the White House in 2020, and he or she will reduce greenhouse emissions 12% by 2030.
ZooeyModeratorYou know what.
I am tired of Clinton apologists blaming the left for her loss.
She lost. It was her fault she lost. Completely her fault.
The left supported her in larger numbers than they supported Obama, precisely for all the reasons Maher states, and are echoed by Nittany, PA, and zn. Yet Obama won, twice. With less support from the left than Hillary got. She lost because she didn’t win votes from the MIDDLE. Because in this election, the MIDDLE wanted progressive policies that tilted jobs/money in their direction. Trump promised it to them. Hillary hedged on it. She lost because she didn’t go to the Rust Belt and tell them something they could believe about the future. That. Is. Why. She. Lost.
And all this constant ragging on the left accomplishes NOTHING except to reinforce the losing strategy the democrat party seem unable to let go of.
If the Democrats want to win…they have to move to the left. That is the reality. And that isn’t me just throwing a tantrum and demanding that I get my way (because I will always place my vote where I think it will have the most practical benefit, and I would have voted for Hillary if California was in any way up for grabs). No, I say they have to move to the left because the left is where the energy, youth, and future demographics lie. That is the unfolding political reality. The votes available to the DNC to tilt the power back into their hands are to their Left, and nowhere else. And no amount of condescending lecturing is going to change that.
May 8, 2017 at 10:42 am in reply to: Kushner offers immigration visas to rich Chinese if they invest in his business #68490ZooeyModeratorWe heard that there are rumors that he is the most likely to be impeached president in American history. That’s why I doubt this project.”
Not so sure about that. The Republicans have gone all-in on Trump. If he goes down–they go down. And they’re in charge.
The most corrupt administration in history will only get stronger and more brazen
I think they are going to go down anyway. Historically, when a party has controlled the whole government, they have lost an average of 35 house seats in the midterms. That would flip if to the democrats, and I think we will see the strongest “get out the vote” push by the left ever.
So what I see happening is what you say…Republicans all in on Trump…until they see the head-on collision is unavoidable, and then they are going to want to bail. So in the districts where supporting Trump is going to be political death, there will be some willingness to sacrifice him for self-interest. Given Trump’s completely erratic behavior, it is inevitable, I think, that there will eventually be a confluence of self-interest aligned with a clear, safe shot at some buffoonery of his.
ZooeyModerator
Speaking of eating humans, I went to see this last night.
I predict a short and unprofitable future for this show.
ZooeyModeratorI love hockey, too. Especially in person. And I’ve been watching hockey since I was about 14, and there are still some rules I don’t understand.
ZooeyModeratorI really feel bad for young children. They are going to have to deal with some really fucked up conditions when they are my age.
That thought goes through my mind every time I see or hear of a pregnancy. I just feel sad. Cuz those kids are going to deal with some really fucked up conditions when they are my age.
ZooeyModeratorI took it as a jab at the ineffectuality of serious critical thinking in the face of the typhoon of ignorance and irrationality.
I wonder how Zizek would see it.
ZooeyModeratorIf only.
ZooeyModeratorNope. No surprise.
It’s jaw-dropping how quickly principle disappears. All the furor over Obama’s executive orders, and golfing, and all that. Republican presidents exceeded his totals on both accounts, and nobody cares.
It’s never principle.
ZooeyModeratorMadison. Hedgecock.
May 3, 2017 at 3:56 pm in reply to: Florida bill allows citizens to remove textbooks that mention climate change #68326ZooeyModeratorOne of the more troubling aspects of modern society is the ascendancy of stupidity as the co-equal in value to intelligence.
How in the name of god is any of this allowed the courtesy of debate?
May 2, 2017 at 10:11 am in reply to: Biggest post-draft questions still to be answered by the Rams #68288ZooeyModeratorSeems to me that apart from Woods, all the WRs are slot receivers. I know Kupp got used on the outside in college, and I’ve got to think that is where he’s bound with the Rams although that may not be where he is best suited. But I can’t see Austin, Spruce, or Cooper out there. And all the other guys – Thomas, Marquez, McRoberts, North – should pack lightly. Spruce and Cooper may be vulnerable, but Woods, Kupp, Austin, and Reynolds are 4 of the 6 unless IR comes into it. Reynolds is the one to watch, as far as I’m concerned. If that guy can actually run short and medium routes as well as flying downfield, then things get interesting vis a vis Austin.
ZooeyModeratorI have many skills.
Bush will take his rightful place in the Pantheon of great artists along with the elephant that paints and the visionary who first applied Elvis’ visage to velvet.
High praise, indeed.
I have him rated just a bit lower than that, myself. But we can agree to disagree, I hope.
ZooeyModeratorWasn’t Apocalypto the film that showed why the brutal and corrupt Mayans needed to be saved from themselves by the Christian Conquistadors?
Is that true?
Because that’s what flashed through my mind when I watched the clip with Gibson in mind.
Some of the historians and others critical of the film said that appeared to be the underlying message.
What do you think George Bush’s place in the history of art will be? Or do you just do science stuff.
ZooeyModeratorWasn’t Apocalypto the film that showed why the brutal and corrupt Mayans needed to be saved from themselves by the Christian Conquistadors?
Is that true?
Because that’s what flashed through my mind when I watched the clip with Gibson in mind.
ZooeyModeratorHmm. Looks interesting.
But I’m still not buying one of Bush’s paintings.
ZooeyModeratorOkay. I liked Apocalypto though. And, I have no plans to buy any Bush paintings.
I never heard of Apocalypto. Was he a Spanish Surrealist?
ZooeyModeratorI’m sorry. I know it’s petty and silly and ridiculous of me, but Mel Gibson is dead to me.
To quote Bladerunner, he’s done…questionable things.
But he can be a very good director.
And George Bush has developed into an artist of some skill.
I’m not buying one of his paintings, though.
ZooeyModeratorI’m sorry. I know it’s petty and silly and ridiculous of me, but Mel Gibson is dead to me.
ZooeyModeratorYeah, I second what zn said, Waterfield. I saw your post last night, but was too tired to respond to it. I have to say I find it surprising anyone would argue that the “system” doesn’t shape us. If that were true, there would be no such thing as culture. We are largely shaped by the value system of our society. And even the people who think independently still have the “system” as their initial platform for asking questions.
I haven’t read the book, but I would guess that people who identify with the image of being tough, independent, and strong identify with the Republican Brand, as do a lot of religious types, and nationalists. People who identify themselves as caring, compassionate, compromising for the greater good, and so on, identify with the Democrat Brand. I think that is just largely true.
Meanwhile, study after study shows us that Americans, when it comes to actual policy positions, are largely to the left – significantly – of the Democrat Party. On all kinds of social and economic policies. But they continue to vote for politicians who oppose those policies. Why? Because they identify with the Brand. Just as people can’t tell the difference between one cola and another in blind taste tests, but are fiercely loyal to a single brand that you cannot convince them does not taste vastly superior to another brand, people’s own self-perception lines up with the marketing of the political parties.
The authors also argue – and I agree with them – that if their Brand offers a policy view in contrast to the wishes of an individual, that person will adjust his view on the policy rather than vote for a candidate from a different party. “Well, I’m sure the President has some inside information that we don’t, so he knows what he’s doing….”
So I can’t tell if we mean something different by the terms “system” and “machine” than you do, but it looks like it. I don’t think any of us sees the “system” as a conspiracy, or a “designed” force (although there are clearly people who have learned to manipulate the masses through Public Relations in all its many guises). It evolved into what it is, and it is mostly self-replicating. Just like culture is. Now it does morph, and it can be nudged this way and that through media exposure, and so on, but it mostly just reproduces its value system in the people who grow up in it.
ZooeyModeratorI’d rate it Fairly Bleh, I guess. I don’t think I’ve been less inspired by a draft, actually.
I just have no love for TEs to begin with. The Rams seem to draft them as much or more than any other position, and they are all JAGs, basically, with the star of the past couple of decades being Kendricks who was Adequate. And the guy is Division II, yeah? I dunno, but that doesn’t fire up the fans with the bags over their heads.
Overall, I’m not wild about the positions drafted, though I certainly wanted WR. I like what I read about Kupp. That’s probably my favorite pick. I’m going to get over the fact that he looks like a pretty boy high school senior who thinks way too highly of himself because he is apparently a hard-working tough guy who gets the job done, so….
There are some decent-looking prospects, but not one “steal.” I just wouldn’t be surprised if none of these guys made it six years in the league. And many of them played against Podunk U. every week, so it just seems dicey to me.
However, none of that is a Prediction because I have no idea. And I have loved some drafts in the past that were complete disasters in retrospect, so I dunno.
I am going to say, at this point, it looks like Snead got a lot of input from McVay and Phillips, and both those guys have good to great track records, and if Everett and Kupp and Johnson make impacts, I will just sit back and claim I saw it all coming from the beginning, I suppose.
ZooeyModeratorFWIW, CBS says that “scouts say” he was figured to be a UDFA.
April 29, 2017 at 11:27 am in reply to: 2017 NFL Draft: 10 biggest remaining gems after Day 2 #68041ZooeyModeratorGood. More TEs.
ZooeyModeratorI’m digging this guy’s description. I like disciplined route running and hands of steel over lightning speed and jitterbug stuff. I mean, I like that stuff, but I’d rather have a guy who runs his route and makes the catch for 10 yards every time than a guy who busts a highlight every other week, and drops 6 passes in the same amount of time.
ZooeyModeratorNot that having Cowherd agree with me substantiates anything, but I’ve always thought speed was a little overrated at WR. Good routes and good hands. That’s Bruce and Ellard. I will take them over Ron Brown.
There are several WRs who fill that description, apparently. I’d love to get one by round 3.
I don’t want that Ohio State guy, Curtis Something, who sounds like Tavon Austin.
ZooeyModeratorOh, good god….
ZooeyModeratorWell, Clinton has disappeared for the most part, and the Sanders appears to be the only person on the left who makes headlines. He has become the de facto face of the Democrats. Where the hell are Shumer and Pelosi? And Shumer, btw, seems to have tacked left since the election defeat. Seems to me he is the only mainstream Dem who isn’t in denial about the currents.
So far, most of the blowback has been coming from media riffraff I’ve never heard of. I agree with Nittany; it would be very dangerous to push away the Left because there is more concerted (and well-informed) energy there than in any other pocket of politics at the moment. I think they would be better off selling out the Left by doing a Clinton: saying conciliatory things, and behind closed doors, saying something else.
We’ll see if this is just another tantrum from the Sallys, or something more of a strategy.
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